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BowTheMan89
May 4, 2013, 10:09 PM
I have an upgrade approaching and have had an iPhone for years, currently on track to either wait it out for a 5S or buy a 5 in june. Just wondering if any longtime iPhone users have made the switch to the GS4, and how is it going?



Mrbobb
May 4, 2013, 10:56 PM
If any did, THEY ARE GONE. Maybe to the Galaxy's forum?

lordofthereef
May 4, 2013, 11:22 PM
While I haven't used the phone yet, one thing of concern is the available storage, especially on the 16gb. Apparently it is around 8gb out of the box. This can be quite problematic and has frustrated quite a few users. Samsung's official response is (paraphrased) "get an sd card". That's great. Except this isn't helpful for apps. Bottom line, expect 5+ gigs to be taken by the os and various bloat. Buy your device accordingly.

dontpannic
May 4, 2013, 11:42 PM
If any did, THEY ARE GONE. Maybe to the Galaxy's forum?

No they're not, they're still here, making sure to justify their purchase at any given opportunity.

nabwong
May 5, 2013, 12:03 AM
I tried the s4 a fee days ago and it is pretty impressive. But I can't get away from iMessage, facetime and photo stream since my whole family is connected internationally. Sucks. Apple, please make a 5" iPhone.

jonasdamn
May 5, 2013, 12:13 AM
had for 3 days s4, didnt like, too much lags for such hardware phone... And build quality is like low range phone... And my iphone 5 performanced better than s4 ^^

maxosx
May 5, 2013, 12:29 AM
I tried the s4 a fee days ago and it is pretty impressive. But I can't get away from iMessage, facetime and photo stream since my whole family is connected internationally. Sucks. Apple, please make a 5" iPhone.

My large family use iPhones & have been for years at my suggestion. All on iPhone 5's currently, I keep one just for that reason.

My personal preference over the last two years especially, has been Android for its great features & benefits, plus the extreme benefit a 4.8" or larger display offers me.

For my usage, the two platforms is an ideal solution.

If at some point Apple gives in to the reality that just like an iPad or MacBook, larger displays have their advantages, perhaps they'll stop procrastinating & offer one. Keep tiny ones for tiny lovers & offer a modern size for those of us who use their smartphones extensively. For the web & lots of email, a large screen is ideal.

Prime85
May 5, 2013, 12:33 AM
had for 3 days s4, didnt like, too much lags for such hardware phone... And build quality is like low range phone... And my iphone 5 performanced better than s4 ^^

I hear it suffers from the same lag as the S3 and most other Androids. The only ones worth getting is the Nexus series due to lack of crap. Its all that extra bloatware and useless apps and gimmicks ("features") that it has.

Same issue i had with my S3 till i put a custom rom and got rid of all that useless crap in touchwiz.

Android has potential if it wasn't loaded with so much crap.

jonasdamn
May 5, 2013, 01:20 AM
I hear it suffers from the same lag as the S3 and most other Androids. The only ones worth getting is the Nexus series due to lack of crap. Its all that extra bloatware and useless apps and gimmicks ("features") that it has.

Same issue i had with my S3 till i put a custom rom and got rid of all that useless crap in touchwiz.

Android has potential if it wasn't loaded with so much crap.

sometimes those gimmick features are usefull, like air view or answer calling with wave and etc. But mostly i didnt use all those features on my note2, s4, s3. But mostly those features are used to showoff for friends: hey look i can control my phone without touching it....^^
After 2 years samsung still didnt fixed contacts, sms, calls application slow opening... Nexus i dont like for a bit ugly UI, so far ios is best for me.

By the way, android likes to fck up itself, starts to lag, giving force closes and etc, then you need to do factory reset and baam again wasting time with setting everything like it was. With icloud backup i dont need to do this :)

wordoflife
May 5, 2013, 01:43 AM
Nah I'm sticking with the iPhone.

The G4 looks pretty decent hardware wise. And of course without saying, has a ton of features software wise. I actually find all of these software features overwhelming for me though. It's hard to explain. But for example, I don't really care for having 20 different short cuts to reply to an email. I'd just open it up on my mail app in my iPhone, and reply from there. It's just one example out of many. Like the notification drop down has so many options to change the phone. Why not just open phone settings? Some people might like it though - so that's good for them. I think I really like Android when it isn't so clustereffed. I'm sure you can change all of these things, but meh ... too lazy.

I really just want something that works and that I'm comfortable using, and it's the iPhone.

jeepik
May 5, 2013, 03:49 AM
Had it for a week, packaged it up and sent it back

Horrible lag
App crashing and unpredictable battery life

These didn't cut it my book, this is a bust on Samsung's part, the note 2 is much much better

gpat
May 5, 2013, 03:55 AM
It looks like a shrunken down Note 2 and any of the improvements are hardly relevant. I'll take the Note 2's greater battery life anyday over a specs bump. When my Note 2's time is up, I won't take another plasticky phone over it and maybe switch to whatever Nexus is up. I love my N2 because it's a great phone with lots of battery life and a great screen, but I don't like Samsung's toyish build quality and horrible UI (rocking Project AOSP now). If they do not change it in 18 months, they can forget my money.

Danform
May 5, 2013, 04:01 AM
I have an upgrade approaching and have had an iPhone for years, currently on track to either wait it out for a 5S or buy a 5 in june. Just wondering if any longtime iPhone users have made the switch to the GS4, and how is it going?

Yeah I had an iPhone since 3gs and i made the jump to s4 as i was simply bored with iOS and android has more to offer, the fact I can change something i dont like is great, widgets are fantastic so i dont have to open apps, the screen size and resolution is incredible.

I personally have not experienced any lag and just awaiting a delivery of 64gb sd card now :)

I find the s4 a better experience than the iphone

Mrbobb
May 5, 2013, 04:20 AM
No they're not, they're still here, making sure to justify their purchase at any given opportunity.


LOL. That's like getting a new girlfriend but keep checking back with the old one just to make sure she hasn't done a certain cosmetic enhancement.

adildacoolset
May 5, 2013, 04:44 AM
As an iphone user, I won't start shilling. I'm saying that this is a very interesting device. However:

1. Touchwiz ruins the experience. It lags, has a very ugly UI (looks like programmer graphics), loaded with bloat that occupies over 8 GB of storage, and more. Not to mention that it significantly slows down the update process.

2. No other way to say this, but the design looks very very bad. And the build quality. What's with the cheap plastic back? I don't use cases.

3. Judging from Samsung's update cycles, this phone may become obsolete in as little as 2 years. Not very good for resale value.

4. I mentioned that touchwiz slows down updates, and also apps from google play generally tend to have a very poor level of performance. Simple apps like doodle jump lag on an S3. I'm, suspecting that it has something to do with the Java VM, but I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.

5. I won't comment on the size, as I haven't owned a 4.8-5" phone, but I'll say that I have not problem with a 4" one. The huge screen sizes aren't a necessity because I own an iPad.

And also (but not a point that deters me away), android fans are generally very obnoxious and very vocal in their personal opinions. Do I really want to become one of those? Not something that's pushing me away, but I'm just bringing this up.

cnev3
May 5, 2013, 05:08 AM
had for 3 days s4, didnt like, too much lags for such hardware phone... And build quality is like low range phone... And my iphone 5 performanced better than s4 ^^

It's because Android is coded in Java, which has a lot more inefficiencies and lower performance than the C++ coding of iOS. They can keep putting in the most cutting edge multi core mobile GPU's and double the RAM in Android phones, but the software will always create a bottleneck for the hardware. And the fact that a lot of apps are iOS ports means that a lot of software won't fully utilize the latest Android phones hardware anyways.

daveathall
May 5, 2013, 05:35 AM
I have had all iPhones up to and including the iPhone 5, I sold my last iPhone in favour of a Galaxy S3, then a Nexus 4, and now a Galaxy S4. My experiences with the two Android phones I have previously owned have been superb, and continues with my S4, I would not trade any of them to go back to the still exceptional iPhone, IMHO, they are that good. :)

The Game 161
May 5, 2013, 09:02 AM
I have had all iPhones up to and including the iPhone 5, I sold my last iPhone in favour of a Galaxy S3, then a Nexus 4, and now a Galaxy S4. My experiences with the two Android phones I have previously owned have been superb, and continues with my S4, I would not trade any of them to go back to the still exceptional iPhone, IMHO, they are that good. :)

I'm looking forward to my android experience

3 days to go till it arrives...

vikingjunior
May 5, 2013, 09:14 AM
I waited so long for the S4 as I thought it would finally be the perfect android boy was I wrong. It lags more then the s3.
Well let's just say the s4 made my decision to go Apple easier.

daveathall
May 5, 2013, 09:53 AM
I waited so long for the S4 as I thought it would finally be the perfect android boy was I wrong. It lags more then the s3.
Well let's just say the s4 made my decision to go Apple easier.

Our experiences differ greatly.

bmac4
May 5, 2013, 11:30 AM
No they're not, they're still here, making sure to justify their purchase at any given opportunity.

Just like all the iphone users do. Every one does this. Not just galaxy owners

AutoUnion39
May 5, 2013, 11:33 AM
not yet. waiting on 32gb model....

nabwong
May 5, 2013, 03:56 PM
My large family use iPhones & have been for years at my suggestion. All on iPhone 5's currently, I keep one just for that reason.

My personal preference over the last two years especially, has been Android for its great features & benefits, plus the extreme benefit a 4.8" or larger display offers me.

For my usage, the two platforms is an ideal solution.

If at some point Apple gives in to the reality that just like an iPad or MacBook, larger displays have their advantages, perhaps they'll stop procrastinating & offer one. Keep tiny ones for tiny lovers & offer a modern size for those of us who use their smartphones extensively. For the web & lots of email, a large screen is ideal.

You use 2 phones concurrently? How does that work for you?

TacticalDesire
May 5, 2013, 08:53 PM
Same hardware as the HTC one. The difference is the GS4 lags horribly whereas the One does not. The amount of bloat samsung added is simply too much and or poorly optimized. There is not excuse for the amount of lag that thing has for such a powerful phone.

Southernboyj
May 5, 2013, 09:25 PM
I traded my iPhone 5 for a Galaxy Note 2 back in early December. I loved the Note 2 and felt it was much better than the iPhone 5. This week I sold my Note 2 to a friend and switched to a Galaxy S4.

I'm enjoying the S4 even more than the Note 2, and the Note 2 more than my iPhone 5. Still using my iPad daily though. :p

ajumbaje
May 5, 2013, 09:30 PM
waiting for a 32 gb so I dont have to worry about app space since you can only install them on the system memory. I will get an sd card, but can only use that for music, pics

hopefully some minor hardware issues are fixed(if any) and a patch for att is out by then. I can upgrade in late may. May be mid june depending on wwdc

kokhean
May 6, 2013, 09:17 AM
Waiting for the 32 GB variant to come out here.

Switchback666
May 6, 2013, 09:26 AM
It's because Android is coded in Java, which has a lot more inefficiencies and lower performance than the C++ coding of iOS. They can keep putting in the most cutting edge multi core mobile GPU's and double the RAM in Android phones, but the software will always create a bottleneck for the hardware. And the fact that a lot of apps are iOS ports means that a lot of software won't fully utilize the latest Android phones hardware anyways.

C++ coding :confused: ?

dontpannic
May 7, 2013, 03:36 AM
Just like all the iphone users do. Every one does this. Not just galaxy owners

Heh. Sure.

You look at any negative post on this and indeed any forum and generally, Android users are far more vocal about the bad points of iOS than iOS users are about the bad points of Android.

Krimsonmyst
May 7, 2013, 03:47 AM
Heh. Sure.

You look at any negative post on this and indeed any forum and generally, Android users are far more vocal about the bad points of iOS than iOS users are about the bad points of Android.

That's because there aren't that many bad points about Android. Generally if you want to make Android do something, you can.

Hearing iFolk make comments about lag and useless features gets old after the ten thousandth person does it.

bmac4
May 7, 2013, 05:46 AM
Heh. Sure.

You look at any negative post on this and indeed any forum and generally, Android users are far more vocal about the bad points of iOS than iOS users are about the bad points of Android.

Oh sorry I thought could see beyond their rose color glasses. You can think whatever you like, but if you just opened your eyes and started to read some of the post on this site, you would not be saying this. I get you like iOS better, and that is fine. The point is just as many iOS users trash android for not being smooth as android users trash iOS for being to plain. It goes both ways whether you think so or not.

ToyGun1
May 8, 2013, 03:00 PM
i am planning to buy that phone, but i'm still confused between htc one and the samsung galaxy s4. i really love touchwiz but i also want that all-aluminum uni body.

You best going for Galaxy S4 Much better software than HTC sense.

jrswizzle
May 8, 2013, 03:15 PM
You best going for Galaxy S4 Much better software than HTC sense.

If by better you mean more bloated and poorly optimized. It's like they half-assedly through everything they could think of into that phone....

IMO, the HTC One is the best Android phone out there right now. Sense offers an elegant, minimalist design and a couple features that are actually useful.

Also, for the price you'd pay for a 16GB (actually 8GB usable) GS4, you get 32 GB (27 GB usable) for the HTC One.

bmac4
May 8, 2013, 10:30 PM
If by better you mean more bloated and poorly optimized. It's like they half-assedly through everything they could think of into that phone....

IMO, the HTC One is the best Android phone out there right now. Sense offers an elegant, minimalist design and a couple features that are actually useful.

Also, for the price you'd pay for a 16GB (actually 8GB usable) GS4, you get 32 GB (27 GB usable) for the HTC One.

Now jrswizzle you know better than to use a term like "the best" when it comes to phones. That is your opinion not fact. I like the nexus 4 the best and it works for me. I would never use or want Blinkfeed, so that would be something that is unwanted that I could not get off the phone. Again it all comes down to preference.

jrswizzle
May 9, 2013, 08:43 AM
Now jrswizzle you know better than to use a term like "the best" when it comes to phones. That is your opinion not fact. I like the nexus 4 the best and it works for me. I would never use or want Blinkfeed, so that would be something that is unwanted that I could not get off the phone. Again it all comes down to preference.

I said:

"IMO, the HTC One is the best Android phone out there right now. Sense offers an elegant, minimalist design and a couple features that are actually useful."

IMO stands for "in my opinion".

Never stated my opinions as fact.

bmac4
May 9, 2013, 10:34 AM
I said:

"IMO, the HTC One is the best Android phone out there right now. Sense offers an elegant, minimalist design and a couple features that are actually useful."

IMO stands for "in my opinion".

Never stated my opinions as fact.

OK I miss read your post. Also I am not stupid I know what IMO means. I just miss read it.

rockitdog
May 9, 2013, 10:41 AM
No they're not, they're still here, making sure to justify their purchase at any given opportunity.

LOL, that pretty ironic considering 85% of this forum is people justifying why their Apple products are superior to the competition.:rolleyes:

jrswizzle
May 9, 2013, 10:49 AM
OK I miss read your post. Also I am not stupid I know what IMO means. I just miss read it.

I figured - wasn't calling you stupid either, just making the IMO more evident is all.

bmac4
May 9, 2013, 11:31 AM
I figured - wasn't calling you stupid either, just making the IMO more evident is all.

OK cool. I should have read better. I know better than to think you would make a statement like that. I should have reread your post.

soulreaver99
May 9, 2013, 11:32 AM
I got this as a work phone and was excited until I took it out of the box and held it for the first time. It honestly feels cheap. The Note 2 had better build quality and I don't remember the S3 feeling this bad either. HTC One feels much more like a premium phone and it doesn't lag like the S4.

You can see the lag right away when going from one screen and then hitting the home button a slows down right in the middle of transitioning. Also when you open upa folder it lags too. I didn't have this problem with the Note 2 either!

I just installed the new update that AT&T rolled out so hopefully performance will be better.

bmac4
May 9, 2013, 11:34 AM
I got this as a work phone and was excited until I took it out of the box and held it for the first time. It honestly feels cheap. The Note 2 had better build quality and I don't remember the S3 feeling this bad either. HTC One feels much more like a premium phone and it doesn't lag like the S4.

You can see the lag right away when going from one screen and then hitting the home button a slows down right in the middle of transitioning. Also when you open upa folder it lags too. I didn't have this problem with the Note 2 either!

I just installed the new update that AT&T rolled out so hopefully performance will be better.

I think Samsung added to many features to the S4. From what I have heard if you turn off some of the features that no one ever uses. It really speeds up the phone.

MacRumorUser
May 9, 2013, 11:48 AM
I think Samsung added to many features to the S4. From what I have heard if you turn off some of the features that no one ever uses. It really speeds up the phone.

Yep, they threw everything but the kitchen sink in - but at the detriment of user experience / GUI performance. They can probably keep on rolling out updates fixing it along the way - but it does show that Samsung need to rethink the strategy of adding features that either hurt performance or need far more optimisation.

It also shows how just having the latest version of Android doesn't automatically equate to better experience.

bmac4
May 9, 2013, 11:51 AM
Yep, they threw everything but the kitchen sink in - but at the detriment of user experience / GUI performance. They can probably keep on rolling out updates fixing it along the way - but it does show that Samsung need to rethink the strategy of adding features that either hurt performance or need far more optimisation.

It also shows how just having the latest version of Android doesn't automatically equate to better experience.

Yep. My note 2 runs just fine and I would say it is still just as fast as the S4 and HTC One. Samsung just did too much. At least you can fix it by turn off some of the features that do no good.

jrswizzle
May 9, 2013, 01:36 PM
OK cool. I should have read better. I know better than to think you would make a statement like that. I should have reread your post.

Lol no worries! :D

The Game 161
May 9, 2013, 01:44 PM
Loving my galaxy S4 easily better than my iphone 5...big plus to iphone was notifications but they are just as good on android with the notification widget and light flow

Love it... Screen. Battery life isn't great so far but I've let the phone die and now charging again. Lets see how it is after it charges... Not sure what would cause battery to drain

Switchback666
May 9, 2013, 05:31 PM
It also shows how just having the latest version of Android doesn't automatically equate to better experience.

This ! Unless you have a nexus devices :D it really shouldnt matter what ver. of android manufactures ship the phone, i take android skins as separate OS :) seems htc did a great job this year.

bmac4
May 9, 2013, 05:35 PM
This ! Unless you have a nexus devices :D it really shouldnt matter what ver. of android manufactures ship the phone, i take android skins as separate OS :) seems htc did a great job this year.

I agree. It seems some people want to consider skins as equal to android. Skins have become so customized that you cant any more. Touchwiz is so heavy on top of android it slows the S4 down. HTC for once made sense 5 a skin worth having.

linsam
May 9, 2013, 06:51 PM
I have used the iPhone Edge, 3GS, 4 and 5. Love Apple everything. However, this past December, I switched to the Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Have not looked back or regretted my decision at all. The switch was way easier than I thought it would be. Still love Apple, but now love Samsung. I have a deep respect for iOS and Android. I am not a Fan Girl. I just love good products.

dontpannic
May 10, 2013, 02:42 AM
LOL, that pretty ironic considering 85% of this forum is people justifying why their Apple products are superior to the competition.:rolleyes:

And that surprises you considering you're posting on MACrumors?

That's specifically why I mentioned 'around the internet' rather than 'on this site'. This site will obviously have a pro-Apple bias - but around the internet, Android users are far more vocal about iOS's drawbacks than iOS users are about Androids drawbacks.

How many times do you see "Why did you buy a GS4, the iPhone is much better" compared to "Why did you buy an iPhone you sheep, the GS4 is so much more open and customisable. I can do what I want with the Galaxy. Can your iPhone do this? Or this? How about this? Really?".

RightMACatU
May 21, 2013, 07:20 AM
I've just switch to the S4.

Positives:
+ 5" screen & video watching hands down over the iPhone/Touch
+ Look, feel, customizability of Android widgets hands down over iPhone/Touch
+ Air Features (ok... it's debatable ;))
+ 13MP camera and HD video does a great job
+ Export iTunes Playlists to a 64GB SD card using simple sync software

Fails:
- Phone regularly and randomly ‘drops and restores’ SD card (known issue)
- A SD card drop erases above Playlists (solutions = store playlist on device)
- Earphones quality < iPhone/Touch
- The built-in ‘Video’ app crashes when using the folder view (downloaded another one)

Epic Fails:
- Android is obviously a close cousin of Windows: apps fail on a regular basis, info/settings disappear
- Car Bluetooth link drops every time phone goes to sleep – seriously, it’s 2013!? (Who has a solution?)
- Could not register with Samsung as GT-I9505 does not exist in their list of devices :confused:

Bottom line:
* Android devices are nowhere near iPhone/Touch when it comes to stability
* If you are anal about your music and iTunes management of files, Android is NOT for you