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Danform
May 5, 2013, 03:57 AM
Yes I did jump from my iPhone 4s to the Samsung Galaxy S4. The reason I jumped before I got the phone is because I am sick of iOS being the samee ach year and it doesnt change.

Instantly after getting the S4 I knew I made the right choice, if I do not like something on the phone I can just change it. Coming from iOS widgets are very good and convenient for me, I also like lock screen widgets which are customisable, I also got 50gb of dropbox for free for 2 years and can store 20000 songs in the google cloud.

I would highly recommend changing to android.



kdlt
May 5, 2013, 04:22 AM
Okidoks!

So what, you need some sort of validation for the switch?

sk1wbw
May 5, 2013, 04:40 AM
It's funny because Android hasn't really changed at all over the years. Sure it's gotten prettier with different widgets, but it's still the same icon based OS.

cnev3
May 5, 2013, 04:55 AM
Yes I did jump from my iPhone 4s to the Samsung Galaxy S4. The reason I jumped before I got the phone is because I am sick of iOS being the samee ach year and it doesnt change.

Instantly after getting the S4 I knew I made the right choice, if I do not like something on the phone I can just change it. Coming from iOS widgets are very good and convenient for me, I also like lock screen widgets which are customisable, I also got 50gb of dropbox for free for 2 years and can store 20000 songs in the google cloud.

I would highly recommend changing to android.

So basically the main reason why you switched was because iOS was boring. And you INSTANTLY knew you made the right choice because Android is different. Very well thought out reasons.

It took 3 months of me using Android before I became disillusioned and switched back.

I'm not saying iOS is better. It was more to do with my own personal situation and preferences.

But your post is...lacking.

MacRumorUser
May 5, 2013, 05:36 AM
As i have said many many times. The grass is not always greener, it's often just 'different' grass.

But i think it's important people do try each OS out for themselves. The more folks that switch from one to the other (regardless of iOS to android or android to iOS and lets not forget windows phone too) it means that the companies ned to try and reinvigour their OS's.

iOS 7 looks like it will be the first major kick in the bum for iOS since the introduction of the app store. It really needs it.

Likewise Android and especially manufacturers skins need to learn to take a design leaf out of apple and create seamless UI experiences that don't get bogged down in bloatware and lag. You can add dozens of features but if the culmination of adding them is at the detriment of the general user experience then they need to be taken out or re-worked.


What ever OS you choose, what ever handset you choose at least there is a good selection of really decent hardware out there right now.

iPhone 5, 5S (will likely be better than its brother) , the S4, HTC One, Xperia z, Lumia 820, 920, Blackberry Z10, Q10, Nexus 4, LG Optimus G

They are all strong phones hardware wise. Eventually we will reach a plateau of where hardware can go and what new hardware they can include - then even more emphasis will be placed on the software and the general user experience.

kdlt
May 5, 2013, 06:23 AM
How can I delete this post? Tapatalk for ipad acting up.... Sorry guys

vikingjunior
May 5, 2013, 07:15 AM
It's funny because Android hasn't really changed at all over the years. Sure it's gotten prettier with different widgets, but it's still the same icon based OS.

I agree and as a long time android user I've come to appreciate apples simplicity and uniformity.

sk1wbw
May 5, 2013, 07:32 AM
I agree and as a long time android user I've come to appreciate apples simplicity and uniformity.

And as a current iPhone 5, iPad, and Nexus 7 user, I've come to appreciate how well Apple's battery management system is compared to Android. My Nexus 7 is pure crap on the batter.

nizmoz
May 5, 2013, 07:36 AM
So basically the main reason why you switched was because iOS was boring. And you INSTANTLY knew you made the right choice because Android is different. Very well thought out reasons.

It took 3 months of me using Android before I became disillusioned and switched back.

I'm not saying iOS is better. It was more to do with my own personal situation and preferences.

But your post is...lacking.

4 months for me. I came back. I won't touch android again.

blairh
May 5, 2013, 07:45 AM
Yes I did jump from my iPhone 4s to the Samsung Galaxy S4. The reason I jumped before I got the phone is because I am sick of iOS being the samee ach year and it doesnt change.

Instantly after getting the S4 I knew I made the right choice, if I do not like something on the phone I can just change it. Coming from iOS widgets are very good and convenient for me, I also like lock screen widgets which are customisable, I also got 50gb of dropbox for free for 2 years and can store 20000 songs in the google cloud.

I would highly recommend changing to android.

We are a month away from an iOS redesign at WWDC. You can easily use Google Music with an iPhone.

I'm trying Android for the first time this week, but some of your reasoning is off here.

ChrisTX
May 5, 2013, 08:13 AM
I've never really understood these types of threads. I don't need the consent, and blessing of this forum to validate my smartphone choices in life. Best of luck to the OP though! :cool:

Internaut
May 5, 2013, 08:20 AM
My year long, iOS free rumspringer was fun but in the end I decided I want both worlds.

SlCKB0Y
May 5, 2013, 08:49 AM
It's funny because Android hasn't really changed at all over the years. Sure it's gotten prettier with different widgets, but it's still the same icon based OS.

If you'd actually used Android for any use of time you'd know the vast amount of changes with regards to performance, features and UI design which has occurred.

Your statement is purposefully vague and meaningless and could be applied to anything *

* OS X is basically the same System 1. They both have windows, icons and a menubar.

Danform
May 5, 2013, 01:13 PM
We are a month away from an iOS redesign at WWDC. You can easily use Google Music with an iPhone.

I'm trying Android for the first time this week, but some of your reasoning is off here.

A "redesign" no new features

bean dip
May 5, 2013, 01:57 PM
A "redesign" no new features
I'm sure there will be a few new features.

macness
May 5, 2013, 03:40 PM
It's funny because Android hasn't really changed at all over the years. Sure it's gotten prettier with different widgets, but it's still the same icon based OS.

That's bull. You can customise it as much as you want. Thats why it's not as in need of a makeover. There's no standard set up. And just to let you know, I'm a big apple and iphone fan. I'm just being honest

thehustleman
May 5, 2013, 04:07 PM
It's funny because Android hasn't really changed at all over the years. Sure it's gotten prettier with different widgets, but it's still the same icon based OS.

Hasn't changed at all over the years?
So you mean to tell me that this hunk of almost inoperable unstable constantly crashing garbage

411013



Is just like this work of electronic art?
411014


One is garbage, one is the most advanced mobile operating system I've ever experienced (and I've been blackberry, Palm, Android, ios, Windows and a small trip to symbian) and they are nothing alike

onthecouchagain
May 5, 2013, 05:04 PM
Hasn't changed at all over the years?
So you mean to tell me that this hunk of almost inoperable unstable constantly crashing garbage

411013



Is just like this work of electronic art?
411014


One is garbage, one is the most advanced mobile operating system I've ever experienced (and I've been blackberry, Palm, Android, ios, Windows and a small trip to symbian) and they are nothing alike


Not to mention, if he/she really thinks that about Android, what does he/she think about iOS, then?! (Somewhat rhetorical because we probably know the answer).

allthatjazz
May 5, 2013, 05:25 PM
Okidoks!

So what, you need some sort of validation for the switch?

exactly my thought. why do people come back and make such thead? "why i switched to android", "why i switched to apple", etc.,. just go in silence. we all know that people have different taste, needs, and so forth. NO need to justify your purchase to strangers, really.

KentuckyHouse
May 5, 2013, 06:24 PM
I love how all the Apple fanboys get so upset when someone leaves the flock for greener pastures and then comes back here, to the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS devices" section of the site, to describe their experience. If the OP was talking about how crappy his experience was, you'd all be jumping up and down and smiling from ear to ear. But wow...let him say he's happy for the move and you're all offended to high heaven.

I've got an idea...how about all the iPhone-only users just stay out of this sub forum. You can have the rest of the site to yourselves. Stop coming here just so you can get your false outrage going.

LIVEFRMNYC
May 5, 2013, 06:30 PM
I love how all the Apple fanboys get so upset when someone leaves the flock for greener pastures and then comes back here, to the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS devices" section of the site, to describe their experience. If the OP was talking about how crappy his experience was, you'd all be jumping up and down and smiling from ear to ear. But wow...let him say he's happy for the move and you're all offended to high heaven.

I've got an idea...how about all the iPhone-only users just stay out of this sub forum. You can have the rest of the site to yourselves. Stop coming here just so you can get your false outrage going.

Amen to that.

Toltepeceno
May 5, 2013, 07:05 PM
Okidoks!

So what, you need some sort of validation for the switch?

You did notice this is the Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices section?

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exactly my thought. why do people come back and make such thead? "why i switched to android", "why i switched to apple", etc.,. just go in silence. we all know that people have different taste, needs, and so forth. NO need to justify your purchase to strangers, really.

I ask you the same thing as above.

What do you guys expect to be posted in this section? If it bothers you then why read the threads? Insecurity?

blairh
May 5, 2013, 07:27 PM
A "redesign" no new features

You have no idea what's in store.

jrodsep
May 5, 2013, 08:24 PM
Not to mention, if he/she really thinks that about Android, what does he/she think about iOS, then?! (Somewhat rhetorical because we probably know the answer).

http://thetechblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ios1-vs-ios6.jpg

Do we have to explain it to Apple fan boys?

MacRumorUser
May 6, 2013, 02:36 AM
Do we have to explain it to Apple fan boys?

Do we have to be ignorant and start calling people fan boys rather than use linguistic skills to formulate a coherent argument to make your point.

Seriously anyone who throws out the 'fanboy' name calling instantly loses any argument or debate they are attempting to make.

kdlt
May 6, 2013, 02:36 AM
Sorry... I did not notice the sub, I was using tapatalks timeline feature so i reaallly wasnt able to notice it and i have no knowledge... lol

So i apologize to OP, but truth is that post was nicer by a trillion times from what i originally intended.

IOS = GOAT OS = FACT
All other OS are just a matter of taste and opinion

JustJeff
May 6, 2013, 03:33 AM
I love how all the Apple fanboys get so upset when someone leaves the flock for greener pastures and then comes back here, to the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS devices" section of the site, to describe their experience. If the OP was talking about how crappy his experience was, you'd all be jumping up and down and smiling from ear to ear. But wow...let him say he's happy for the move and you're all offended to high heaven.

I've got an idea...how about all the iPhone-only users just stay out of this sub forum. You can have the rest of the site to yourselves. Stop coming here just so you can get your false outrage going.

I love how somone makes a major rant about Apple fanboys when there are just as many on the other side of the fence.

I've got an idea, how about just ignore them so you don't get your false outrage going?

Marco123
May 6, 2013, 03:58 AM
I had the GS4 for the last week and I am back on ip5 yesterday.
The battery life, size and heat put me off the GS4, I found all three to be extremely uncomfortable especially the heat.
I had the settings stripped bare to get rid of lag and found the smart scroll etc to be awful.
The screen is wonderful though but the size is just between being to big or to small.

nizmoz
May 6, 2013, 07:50 AM
I love how somone makes a major rant about Apple fanboys when there are just as many on the other side of the fence.

I've got an idea, how about just ignore them so you don't get your false outrage going?

I agree. And last I checked there are Android forums. This is a MAC/Apple site not a Android site.

daveathall
May 6, 2013, 07:59 AM
I agree. And last I checked there are Android forums. This is a MAC/Apple site not a Android site.

Yet you post the above in the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum. You don't see your own double standard?

As well as owning Android devices I am typing this on a Mac Book Pro while in the background a film I have on iTunes is playing using my Apple TV, I have an iPad mini, and an iPod Classic in each of my and my wife's cars, I also pay a yearly subscription to iTunes match, you think I don't have as much right to post on these boards as you?

nizmoz
May 6, 2013, 08:59 AM
Yet you post the above in the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum. You don't see your own double standard?

As well as owning Android devices I am typing this on a Mac Book Pro while in the background a film I have on iTunes is playing using my Apple TV, I have an iPad mini, and an iPod Classic in each of my and my wife's cars, I also pay a yearly subscription to iTunes match, you think I don't have as much right to post on these boards as you?


Me? This SITE is about Mac. People here are complaining about Apple fanboys? If you don't like it, then leave. This forum in a Apple/MAC site and this forum is here to discuss other platforms. Not get on people if they own a IOS device and comparing it to Android or what not. That is what it's for. Like I said, leave if you don't like it.

And for the matter, I have owned many Android devices myself.

daveathall
May 6, 2013, 09:10 AM
Me? This SITE is about Mac. People here are complaining about Apple fanboys? If you don't like it, then leave. This forum in a Apple/MAC site and this forum is here to discuss other platforms. Not get on people if they own a IOS device and comparing it to Android or what not. That is what it's for. Like I said, leave if you don't like it.

And for the matter, I have owned many Android devices myself.

I wasn't the one complaining........That was you. It seems that you are the one that doesn't like discussion here. Who are you to tell me to leave?

You have owned Andtoid devices?.............Course you have.:rolleyes:

You still don't see, or seem to ignore your double standard. I wont be answering your further rants. Type away if you wish.

kokhean
May 6, 2013, 09:13 AM
Hasn't changed at all over the years?
So you mean to tell me that this hunk of almost inoperable unstable constantly crashing garbage

411013



Is just like this work of electronic art?
411014


One is garbage, one is the most advanced mobile operating system I've ever experienced (and I've been blackberry, Palm, Android, ios, Windows and a small trip to symbian) and they are nothing alike

A few of my friends switched over to Android phones. One of my friends said this:

When you use an iPhone, you will feel that it's very good. When you switch over to Android, you'll never go back to iOS again.

I wanted to tell him how laggy and trashy Android was prior to the recent versions like Jelly Bean, but I kept my mouth shut :D

nizmoz
May 6, 2013, 09:22 AM
I wasn't the one complaining........That was you. It seems that you are the one that doesn't like discussion here. Who are you to tell me to leave?

You have owned Andtoid devices?.............Course you have.:rolleyes:

You still don't see, or seem to ignore your double standard. I wont be answering your further rants. Type away if you wish.

I just came in here so I have no clue what you are talking about me complaining? I just agreed with that one guy. Wow. :rolleyes: What's even more funny about you, is you have NEVER posted about an Apple product since you have been here. Yes I looked at your 19 pages of previous posts to see. It's all Android. I don't understand why you are even here other than being someone wanting to pick fights with people who weren't even in this conversation like me.

Stop acting so immature. Yes, many, probably have pictures of all of them since I sold them.

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A few of my friends switched over to Android phones. One of my friends said this:



I wanted to tell him how laggy and trashy Android was prior to the recent versions like Jelly Bean, but I kept my mouth shut :D

Honestly I use to say the same thing....but I have switched back myself. ;)

Tikatika
May 6, 2013, 09:28 AM
I had the GS4 for the last week and I am back on ip5 yesterday.
The battery life, size and heat put me off the GS4, I found all three to be extremely uncomfortable especially the heat.
I had the settings stripped bare to get rid of lag and found the smart scroll etc to be awful.
The screen is wonderful though but the size is just between being to big or to small.

I think I got lucky with my S4. Used it all day yesterday and was at 50% last night. I feel no heat at all, none. No lag or stuttering. I think the size is great and am happy I switched. But am typing this on my iPad which I will never leave, only for an upgrade. Love my iPad and my iPad Mini. Also love my Windows PC. All 3 platforms, the best of all worlds.

Can't we all just get along? :)

Tig Bitties
May 6, 2013, 09:29 AM
Image (http://thetechblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ios1-vs-ios6.jpg)

Do we have to explain it to Apple fan boys?

Exactly. From 2007 to 2013 iOS to me looks virtually unchanged, still has a home screen that looks like someone left the app drawer open permanently. Is just a screen full of app icons. That was cool in 2007, but not today.

At least Apple could do live tile type app icons, have the weather app icon show the current temp and weather, have all app icons update and show current stats. That alone would be a nice update, and could be easily done.

And at least offer a row of widgets on the top row, instead of just adding the "magical" and "revolutionary" 5th row of icons the iPhone 5 was marketed as adding. LOL. If you don't want a widget up on the top row, have an option not put there.

The iPhone 5S is all about iOS7, it better be a nice visual change over the past 6 years, and add some similar features found on Windows Phone 8, and Jellybean.

Not to sound like a Android fan, but you have to admit, Google has made MASSIVE progress, from the G1 in 2008, to the Nexus 4 in 2012, shows a major change and upgrade, not just hardware obviously, but mainly in the OS software. Android 1.5 to Android 4.2 is night and day different, I can't say the same for iOS 1.0 to iOS 6.0.

tjl3
May 6, 2013, 11:47 AM
When you use an iPhone, you will feel that it's very good. When you switch over to Android, you'll never go back to iOS again.

People are lazy in additional to being cheap. As someone said on this board or thread, the pasture isn't always greener on the other side. Doesn't mean it's less green. I feel a lot of times when someone switches b/c iOS is "stale and old" they are just too lazy to change again b/c both offer your basic amenities: email, texts, decent camera, Facebook, web browser.

nizmoz
May 6, 2013, 11:52 AM
I agree. They have made massive progress, but they had too. Their O/S was so terrible vs the way IOS was when it first came out that no one wanted it. IOS was perfect when it first came out, and all Apple had to do was fine tune it. That is all they have done really. But it is time for a change, and they must be careful to not do a drastic change because the iPhone is still one of the top selling phones. If they change it for the worse it could hurt them especially when people like IOS because it just works.

Exactly. From 2007 to 2013 iOS to me looks virtually unchanged, still has a home screen that looks like someone left the app drawer open permanently. Is just a screen full of app icons. That was cool in 2007, but not today.

At least Apple could do live tile type app icons, have the weather app icon show the current temp and weather, have all app icons update and show current stats. That alone would be a nice update, and could be easily done.

And at least offer a row of widgets on the top row, instead of just adding the "magical" and "revolutionary" 5th row of icons the iPhone 5 was marketed as adding. LOL. If you don't want a widget up on the top row, have an option not put there.

The iPhone 5S is all about iOS7, it better be a nice visual change over the past 6 years, and add some similar features found on Windows Phone 8, and Jellybean.

Not to sound like a Android fan, but you have to admit, Google has made MASSIVE progress, from the G1 in 2008, to the Nexus 4 in 2012, shows a major change and upgrade, not just hardware obviously, but mainly in the OS software. Android 1.5 to Android 4.2 is night and day different, I can't say the same for iOS 1.0 to iOS 6.0.

Tig Bitties
May 6, 2013, 12:17 PM
I agree. They have made massive progress, but they had too. Their O/S was so terrible vs the way IOS was when it first came out that no one wanted it. IOS was perfect when it first came out, and all Apple had to do was fine tune it. That is all they have done really. But it is time for a change, and they must be careful to not do a drastic change because the iPhone is still one of the top selling phones. If they change it for the worse it could hurt them especially when people like IOS because it just works.

I think Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone already. Why not at least try out a 4.5" screen, but still keep a 4" iPhone as well. Sell both side by side, with same specs, just a larger battery in the 4.5" screen to handle the extra power the bigger screen will suck up. And see after one year which one of the two screen sizes sells the most, and then just stick with the better seller ? I would bet the 4.5" would for sure sell more than the 4", if Apple offered the choice.

Plus besides a larger screen, iOS needs widgets or live tiles or something like those from Android and Windows respectively.

chagla
May 6, 2013, 12:56 PM
A few of my friends switched over to Android phones. One of my friends said this:

I wanted to tell him how laggy and trashy Android was prior to the recent versions like Jelly Bean, but I kept my mouth shut :D
none of my friends using android phones have switched to ios.
a few actually switched from ios to android and they said it was like waking up from a nightmare. they are doing things on their phone that they thought was never possible.

different folks, different strokes i guess.

nizmoz
May 6, 2013, 01:18 PM
none of my friends using android phones have switched to ios.
a few actually switched from ios to android and they said it was like waking up from a nightmare. they are doing things on their phone that they thought was never possible.

different folks, different strokes i guess.

Funny because I have at least a 6-8 people I know who did switch to IOS from Android because they got tired of their phones not working correctly. And they aren't the type to mod their phone.

appletoandroid
May 6, 2013, 01:44 PM
none of my friends using android phones have switched to ios.
a few actually switched from ios to android and they said it was like waking up from a nightmare. they are doing things on their phone that they thought was never possible.

different folks, different strokes i guess.

Agreed. My friends are always jealous of all the stuff I get done on my GS2 that they can't on their iPhone, even the iPhone 5! Most of them are considering to switch to a GS4 b/c it is in evrey way better and more advanced than iPhone. I think people have to wake up from this shroud Apple has cast upon them. Maybe iOS 7 will be a game changer though, but based on Apple's track record, its doubtful.

kdlt
May 6, 2013, 04:41 PM
Agreed. My friends are always jealous of all the stuff I get done on my GS2 that they can't on their iPhone, even the iPhone 5! Most of them are considering to switch to a GS4 b/c it is in evrey way better and more advanced than iPhone. I think people have to wake up from this shroud Apple has cast upon them. Maybe iOS 7 will be a game changer though, but based on Apple's track record, its doubtful.

Please enlighten me what is so gamechanger in jellybean that causes us apple fanboys so much envy and spite?

That's an honest question by the way... I haven't checked up on anything android and too lazy too google anything. I have read about the S4, but the features are meh.

chrisrosemusic1
May 6, 2013, 04:56 PM
BORING


Why do we feel the need to continuously argue about which platform is better and who's a fanboy etc. Getting so tired of these 'threads'.

EACH TO THEIR OWN.

BUY A DEVICE AND ENJOY IT BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP BICKERING LIKE CHILDREN OVER WHO'S CONKER IS BETTER.

kdlt
May 6, 2013, 05:08 PM
BORING


Why do we feel the need to continuously argue about which platform is better and who's a fanboy etc. Getting so tired of these 'threads'.

EACH TO THEIR OWN.

BUY A DEVICE AND ENJOY IT BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP BICKERING LIKE CHILDREN OVER WHO'S CONKER IS BETTER.

As pointed out in above posts...

We are supposedly in the "right" forum to discuss this stuff seeing as we're in that alternative to iOS blah blah blah sub-forum

KentuckyHouse
May 6, 2013, 07:47 PM
A few of my friends switched over to Android phones. One of my friends said this:



I wanted to tell him how laggy and trashy Android was prior to the recent versions like Jelly Bean, but I kept my mouth shut :D

Because how it used to be matters. :rolleyes:


Who cares if it sucked 5 years ago? People only care about what it will do now.




Please enlighten me what is so gamechanger in jellybean that causes us apple fanboys so much envy and spite?

That's an honest question by the way... I haven't checked up on anything android and too lazy too google anything. I have read about the S4, but the features are meh.

If you're too lazy to look, I'm too lazy to spoon feed you. Seriously, there was just a massive thread posted about this in the last month or so. It shouldn't be hard to find.

mib1800
May 6, 2013, 09:11 PM
Please enlighten me what is so gamechanger in jellybean that causes us apple fanboys so much envy and spite?

That's an honest question by the way... I haven't checked up on anything android and too lazy too google anything. I have read about the S4, but the features are meh.

This is what we can do in Android/S4 that you cant with Iphone/IOS. It is a long list but you may say they are gimmicks. Bottom line is between the have and have not.


- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open any file using any registered & installed apps.

- Easily share any files/contents via any registered share providerss (BT, Wifi, cloud storages, social networks, usb etc). You can add new share streams easily (by installing apps). No need to wait for OS upgrade like Iphone.

- Ability to download/save any files from any sources (browser, apps etc) into the phone storage. No need to use dropbox like iphone wasting cellular data and battery life or slow response.

- Files copied to phone storage are accessible by any built-in/3rd party apps. (on iphone for example, you need to reload itunes media files in the phone to dropbox if you want to use 3rd party media players instead of stock iphone player)

-Ability to attach multiple files of any types to email (incl. re-edit re-attach). Ability to edit/view any attachments as long as there is a installed app that handles the file type.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Easily set custom ringtone. Just copy rintone files to phone via any available means (bt, wifi, cloud etc). It will show up in ringtone selection. No need to go thru tedious steps (like in iOS)

- Tap on NFC sticker to automate task (e.g tap NFC sticker in car will auto turn on BT, start music playing, set the phone to "drive" mode and activate turn-by-turn navigation app).

- Set phone to only allows calls from "Family" contact group from 12-7am. Plus auto reject any calls that is in the blacklist. You can set-up multiple schedules (unlike iOS "do not disturb")

- If there is a "meeting" entry in calendar, phone auto change to vibrate mode and only allows "family" and "work" contact group calls during the meeting period. (No need to remember to flip the silent switch on/off like in Iphone).

- Phone conversation recording is auto turned on for calls with a certain prefix. Plus you can play a tune or send a pre-defined message to callers if you didnt pick up the phone.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Direct dial/sms with picture icon on desktop or in folder for quick one touch operation. Plus ability to create shortcuts to any files/contents for quick one-touch access.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to ANY social networks (without needing to open the apps manually).

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Ability to use "live" wallpaper to beautify your home scree OR ability to auto-change static wallpaper periodically. Plus use transparent icons without labels on desktop screen. Also use gestures for tasks/app launching (e.g. tap or swipe-up for different operations)

- Use widgets to display self-updating current essential info (tw,fb,g+,IMs,stock,weather etc) on the desktop screens. No need for tedious one-by-one opening of apps to view new information like in Iphone.

- Phone will keep the screen on if it detects that you are looking at the screen (Smart Stay).

- Smart Rotation to rotate the screen based on the orientation of your eyes and sensor. Reduces all the unwanted screen rotations.

- Turn the phone over to switch to vibrate mode (or have ring silenced during incoming call). Tilt phone to zoom when in gallery/browser.

- Multi-use LED indicator for events (missed call/sms etc). Also can have repeated sound reminders for missed call/sms/calendar/other events.

- Quickly toogle phone settings from notification area. Easily set alerts to notify of cell duration/data usage.

- True multi-tasking allows for concurrently running "stacked" applications. Use the hard "Back" button to easily navigate back from stacked application windows. (no need to fumble about and wasting time to restart previous app like in Iphone)

- Fully working and always-on Skype, G+, voip... etc (receive as well as make calls). Plus Integration to phone contact to easily initiate call/video-call/message directly from phone contact.

- Soft keyboard with multi-words prediction and easy punctuations (i.e. less typing). Include swype keyboard and T9 keyboard. Also IN-PHONE voice to text module without needing to connect to Internet (jelly bean).

- Easy unlock lockscreen (swipe in any direction - no need to look for unlock switch). Able to use pattern lock or facial unlock. Lock screen includes 5 shortcuts which activate app directly. Ability to add widgets to lockscreen (4.2 above)

- Able to use voice commands to change phone settings + do navigation + etc.

- Easily connect portable devices (hard disk, usb-hub, keyboards, game controllers, Bluetooth devices) to phone and use them with the USBToGo/usb-host capability.

- Ability to create unrestricted phone-to-other-devices wireless connection via Wi-Fi Direct and BT.

- Much more functional camera/video taking app (video in video, eraser shot, panorama, multi-shot, best shot, share shot, buddy shot, smile shot, take photo/video in various resolutions, iso selection etc)

- Output phone display to external monitor/TV using cheap and non-proprietary HDMI-out cable. Add a Bluetooth mouse and you can replicate what you can do with Apple TV (at much cheaper price and certainly much more portable)

- Use DLNA to stream media to any DLNA-enabled devices without needing expensive add-on equipments (like apple tv).

- Able to load into phone and play any media files (avi, mkv, divx) directly without tedious conversion. (i.e. transfer files into phone via bt,wifi,cloud etc and play). Unlike Iphone/iOS where you can only load media from one master itunes PC and also wasting time waiting for Itunes to convert these videos.

- Able to play video in popup window (i.e Popup Play). You can continue to watch video while doing other tasks simultaneously.

- Able to expand phone storage to max 96 Gb. Potential can have unlimited in-phone storage by attaching a portable drive using the USBToGo capability.

- Better productivity with much faster scrolling capability than iphone. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY

- Removable battery for extended use without needing to carry heavy/bulky external battery packs. Replaceable/removable back cover so you can enjoy and use phone without casing if you want to (without worrying of expensive scratch repairs).

- Able to set a reading font size in browser. When zoomed in, text always appear at this specified font size. Text is also reflow to fit the screen for easy reading without side-scrolling.

- Legacy Flash plugin support to view flash sites (incl. browser embedded you-tube)

- Able to press the home-button to answer call or power button to end call. Plus set speed dial numbers on the Phone dialpad. And predictive contact search via dialpad.

- Able to use motion do to tasks (flip over to silent sound, tilt to zoom, shake to unlock phone, etc)

- GOOGLE NOW that is integrated into the OS

- Able to SEAMLESSLY replace any stock apps with 3rd party apps to upgrade or improve functionalities. Also, app automatically scale up to match screen size (unlike Iphone 5 which runs older app with letterbox strips)

- Better overall and more functional Google-based services/apps. Ability to search for and install apps using PC browsers. Ability to "side-load" apps without going through online app store. Ability to backup your phone to microSD card.

- Able to selectively add multiple Google accounts to phone. You can also selectively select what data to sync to phone from you google account(s).

- Much larger physical screen.

KentuckyHouse
May 6, 2013, 09:35 PM
Yep. That's quite a list and I love that I have a phone that can do all that.

Thanks!

thehustleman
May 6, 2013, 09:41 PM
This is what we can do in Android/S4 that you cant with Iphone/IOS. It is a long list but you may say they are gimmicks. Bottom line is between the have and have not.


- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open any file using any registered & installed apps.

- Easily share any files/contents via any registered share providerss (BT, Wifi, cloud storages, social networks, usb etc). You can add new share streams easily (by installing apps). No need to wait for OS upgrade like Iphone.

- Ability to download/save any files from any sources (browser, apps etc) into the phone storage. No need to use dropbox like iphone wasting cellular data and battery life or slow response.

- Files copied to phone storage are accessible by any built-in/3rd party apps. (on iphone for example, you need to reload itunes media files in the phone to dropbox if you want to use 3rd party media players instead of stock iphone player)

-Ability to attach multiple files of any types to email (incl. re-edit re-attach). Ability to edit/view any attachments as long as there is a installed app that handles the file type.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Easily set custom ringtone. Just copy rintone files to phone via any available means (bt, wifi, cloud etc). It will show up in ringtone selection. No need to go thru tedious steps (like in iOS)

- Tap on NFC sticker to automate task (e.g tap NFC sticker in car will auto turn on BT, start music playing, set the phone to "drive" mode and activate turn-by-turn navigation app).

- Set phone to only allows calls from "Family" contact group from 12-7am. Plus auto reject any calls that is in the blacklist. You can set-up multiple schedules (unlike iOS "do not disturb")

- If there is a "meeting" entry in calendar, phone auto change to vibrate mode and only allows "family" and "work" contact group calls during the meeting period. (No need to remember to flip the silent switch on/off like in Iphone).

- Phone conversation recording is auto turned on for calls with a certain prefix. Plus you can play a tune or send a pre-defined message to callers if you didnt pick up the phone.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Direct dial/sms with picture icon on desktop or in folder for quick one touch operation. Plus ability to create shortcuts to any files/contents for quick one-touch access.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to ANY social networks (without needing to open the apps manually).

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Ability to use "live" wallpaper to beautify your home scree OR ability to auto-change static wallpaper periodically. Plus use transparent icons without labels on desktop screen. Also use gestures for tasks/app launching (e.g. tap or swipe-up for different operations)

- Use widgets to display self-updating current essential info (tw,fb,g+,IMs,stock,weather etc) on the desktop screens. No need for tedious one-by-one opening of apps to view new information like in Iphone.

- Phone will keep the screen on if it detects that you are looking at the screen (Smart Stay).

- Smart Rotation to rotate the screen based on the orientation of your eyes and sensor. Reduces all the unwanted screen rotations.

- Turn the phone over to switch to vibrate mode (or have ring silenced during incoming call). Tilt phone to zoom when in gallery/browser.

- Multi-use LED indicator for events (missed call/sms etc). Also can have repeated sound reminders for missed call/sms/calendar/other events.

- Quickly toogle phone settings from notification area. Easily set alerts to notify of cell duration/data usage.

- True multi-tasking allows for concurrently running "stacked" applications. Use the hard "Back" button to easily navigate back from stacked application windows. (no need to fumble about and wasting time to restart previous app like in Iphone)

- Fully working and always-on Skype, G+, voip... etc (receive as well as make calls). Plus Integration to phone contact to easily initiate call/video-call/message directly from phone contact.

- Soft keyboard with multi-words prediction and easy punctuations (i.e. less typing). Include swype keyboard and T9 keyboard. Also IN-PHONE voice to text module without needing to connect to Internet (jelly bean).

- Easy unlock lockscreen (swipe in any direction - no need to look for unlock switch). Able to use pattern lock or facial unlock. Lock screen includes 5 shortcuts which activate app directly. Ability to add widgets to lockscreen (4.2 above)

- Able to use voice commands to change phone settings + do navigation + etc.

- Easily connect portable devices (hard disk, usb-hub, keyboards, game controllers, Bluetooth devices) to phone and use them with the USBToGo/usb-host capability.

- Ability to create unrestricted phone-to-other-devices wireless connection via Wi-Fi Direct and BT.

- Much more functional camera/video taking app (video in video, eraser shot, panorama, multi-shot, best shot, share shot, buddy shot, smile shot, take photo/video in various resolutions, iso selection etc)

- Output phone display to external monitor/TV using cheap and non-proprietary HDMI-out cable. Add a Bluetooth mouse and you can replicate what you can do with Apple TV (at much cheaper price and certainly much more portable)

- Use DLNA to stream media to any DLNA-enabled devices without needing expensive add-on equipments (like apple tv).

- Able to load into phone and play any media files (avi, mkv, divx) directly without tedious conversion. (i.e. transfer files into phone via bt,wifi,cloud etc and play). Unlike Iphone/iOS where you can only load media from one master itunes PC and also wasting time waiting for Itunes to convert these videos.

- Able to play video in popup window (i.e Popup Play). You can continue to watch video while doing other tasks simultaneously.

- Able to expand phone storage to max 96 Gb. Potential can have unlimited in-phone storage by attaching a portable drive using the USBToGo capability.

- Better productivity with much faster scrolling capability than iphone. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY

- Removable battery for extended use without needing to carry heavy/bulky external battery packs. Replaceable/removable back cover so you can enjoy and use phone without casing if you want to (without worrying of expensive scratch repairs).

- Able to set a reading font size in browser. When zoomed in, text always appear at this specified font size. Text is also reflow to fit the screen for easy reading without side-scrolling.

- Legacy Flash plugin support to view flash sites (incl. browser embedded you-tube)

- Able to press the home-button to answer call or power button to end call. Plus set speed dial numbers on the Phone dialpad. And predictive contact search via dialpad.

- Able to use motion do to tasks (flip over to silent sound, tilt to zoom, shake to unlock phone, etc)

- GOOGLE NOW that is integrated into the OS

- Able to SEAMLESSLY replace any stock apps with 3rd party apps to upgrade or improve functionalities. Also, app automatically scale up to match screen size (unlike Iphone 5 which runs older app with letterbox strips)

- Better overall and more functional Google-based services/apps. Ability to search for and install apps using PC browsers. Ability to "side-load" apps without going through online app store. Ability to backup your phone to microSD card.

- Able to selectively add multiple Google accounts to phone. You can also selectively select what data to sync to phone from you google account(s).

- Much larger physical screen.

And that sir, is why Android will always be better than iOS.

IOS can't make a list of things it can do that Android cannot.

snowcrash
May 6, 2013, 10:05 PM
That list REALLY makes me want to get an S4!

LIVEFRMNYC
May 6, 2013, 10:20 PM
This is what we can do in Android/S4 that you cant with Iphone/IOS. It is a long list but you may say they are gimmicks. Bottom line is between the have and have not.


- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open any file using any registered & installed apps.

- Easily share any files/contents via any registered share providerss (BT, Wifi, cloud storages, social networks, usb etc). You can add new share streams easily (by installing apps). No need to wait for OS upgrade like Iphone.

- Ability to download/save any files from any sources (browser, apps etc) into the phone storage. No need to use dropbox like iphone wasting cellular data and battery life or slow response.

- Files copied to phone storage are accessible by any built-in/3rd party apps. (on iphone for example, you need to reload itunes media files in the phone to dropbox if you want to use 3rd party media players instead of stock iphone player)

-Ability to attach multiple files of any types to email (incl. re-edit re-attach). Ability to edit/view any attachments as long as there is a installed app that handles the file type.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Easily set custom ringtone. Just copy rintone files to phone via any available means (bt, wifi, cloud etc). It will show up in ringtone selection. No need to go thru tedious steps (like in iOS)

- Tap on NFC sticker to automate task (e.g tap NFC sticker in car will auto turn on BT, start music playing, set the phone to "drive" mode and activate turn-by-turn navigation app).

- Set phone to only allows calls from "Family" contact group from 12-7am. Plus auto reject any calls that is in the blacklist. You can set-up multiple schedules (unlike iOS "do not disturb")

- If there is a "meeting" entry in calendar, phone auto change to vibrate mode and only allows "family" and "work" contact group calls during the meeting period. (No need to remember to flip the silent switch on/off like in Iphone).

- Phone conversation recording is auto turned on for calls with a certain prefix. Plus you can play a tune or send a pre-defined message to callers if you didnt pick up the phone.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Direct dial/sms with picture icon on desktop or in folder for quick one touch operation. Plus ability to create shortcuts to any files/contents for quick one-touch access.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to ANY social networks (without needing to open the apps manually).

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Ability to use "live" wallpaper to beautify your home scree OR ability to auto-change static wallpaper periodically. Plus use transparent icons without labels on desktop screen. Also use gestures for tasks/app launching (e.g. tap or swipe-up for different operations)

- Use widgets to display self-updating current essential info (tw,fb,g+,IMs,stock,weather etc) on the desktop screens. No need for tedious one-by-one opening of apps to view new information like in Iphone.

- Phone will keep the screen on if it detects that you are looking at the screen (Smart Stay).

- Smart Rotation to rotate the screen based on the orientation of your eyes and sensor. Reduces all the unwanted screen rotations.

- Turn the phone over to switch to vibrate mode (or have ring silenced during incoming call). Tilt phone to zoom when in gallery/browser.

- Multi-use LED indicator for events (missed call/sms etc). Also can have repeated sound reminders for missed call/sms/calendar/other events.

- Quickly toogle phone settings from notification area. Easily set alerts to notify of cell duration/data usage.

- True multi-tasking allows for concurrently running "stacked" applications. Use the hard "Back" button to easily navigate back from stacked application windows. (no need to fumble about and wasting time to restart previous app like in Iphone)

- Fully working and always-on Skype, G+, voip... etc (receive as well as make calls). Plus Integration to phone contact to easily initiate call/video-call/message directly from phone contact.

- Soft keyboard with multi-words prediction and easy punctuations (i.e. less typing). Include swype keyboard and T9 keyboard. Also IN-PHONE voice to text module without needing to connect to Internet (jelly bean).

- Easy unlock lockscreen (swipe in any direction - no need to look for unlock switch). Able to use pattern lock or facial unlock. Lock screen includes 5 shortcuts which activate app directly. Ability to add widgets to lockscreen (4.2 above)

- Able to use voice commands to change phone settings + do navigation + etc.

- Easily connect portable devices (hard disk, usb-hub, keyboards, game controllers, Bluetooth devices) to phone and use them with the USBToGo/usb-host capability.

- Ability to create unrestricted phone-to-other-devices wireless connection via Wi-Fi Direct and BT.

- Much more functional camera/video taking app (video in video, eraser shot, panorama, multi-shot, best shot, share shot, buddy shot, smile shot, take photo/video in various resolutions, iso selection etc)

- Output phone display to external monitor/TV using cheap and non-proprietary HDMI-out cable. Add a Bluetooth mouse and you can replicate what you can do with Apple TV (at much cheaper price and certainly much more portable)

- Use DLNA to stream media to any DLNA-enabled devices without needing expensive add-on equipments (like apple tv).

- Able to load into phone and play any media files (avi, mkv, divx) directly without tedious conversion. (i.e. transfer files into phone via bt,wifi,cloud etc and play). Unlike Iphone/iOS where you can only load media from one master itunes PC and also wasting time waiting for Itunes to convert these videos.

- Able to play video in popup window (i.e Popup Play). You can continue to watch video while doing other tasks simultaneously.

- Able to expand phone storage to max 96 Gb. Potential can have unlimited in-phone storage by attaching a portable drive using the USBToGo capability.

- Better productivity with much faster scrolling capability than iphone. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY

- Removable battery for extended use without needing to carry heavy/bulky external battery packs. Replaceable/removable back cover so you can enjoy and use phone without casing if you want to (without worrying of expensive scratch repairs).

- Able to set a reading font size in browser. When zoomed in, text always appear at this specified font size. Text is also reflow to fit the screen for easy reading without side-scrolling.

- Legacy Flash plugin support to view flash sites (incl. browser embedded you-tube)

- Able to press the home-button to answer call or power button to end call. Plus set speed dial numbers on the Phone dialpad. And predictive contact search via dialpad.

- Able to use motion do to tasks (flip over to silent sound, tilt to zoom, shake to unlock phone, etc)

- GOOGLE NOW that is integrated into the OS

- Able to SEAMLESSLY replace any stock apps with 3rd party apps to upgrade or improve functionalities. Also, app automatically scale up to match screen size (unlike Iphone 5 which runs older app with letterbox strips)

- Better overall and more functional Google-based services/apps. Ability to search for and install apps using PC browsers. Ability to "side-load" apps without going through online app store. Ability to backup your phone to microSD card.

- Able to selectively add multiple Google accounts to phone. You can also selectively select what data to sync to phone from you google account(s).

- Much larger physical screen.

I'll add on to that .........

Able to set data limits.

Detailed view of battery usage.

Able to forget(delete) or edit saved wireless networks that are not in range.

Haptic feedback (Must be Jailbroken on iPhone)

Able to pinch to see all pages of home screens at once. Also works with app/widgets drawer.

Available tethering apps without root or custom rom.

cnev3
May 6, 2013, 11:26 PM
And that sir, is why Android will always be better than iOS.

IOS can't make a list of things it can do that Android cannot.

I can't honestly say i've even used a quarter of those features. While they look cool on paper, i'd be surprised if other people used more than a quarter of those either.

One of the dealbreakers that made me sell my Android phone and go back to iPhone is that you cant plug in an instrument into an android phone, therefore, you don't have access to a whole world of recording, modeling, and effects apps. Ampkit, Amplitube, JamUP, FL Studio, apps like those.

Obviously not everyone plays an instrument, therefore not a deal breaker for many.

I use an iMac, and an iPad, and I missed out on the integration and the content sharing. For example, sending a text on my iMac, and continuing the conversation on my iPhone. Or playing Vice City on my iPad, and continuing the same save on my iPhone when I am away from home.

Being able to Facetime with other iOS users was another thing I missed. I couldn't force all my friends and family to download Skype and setup accounts.

Smoother screen scrolling. Not having to wait for virus scans every time I power cycled my phone, or installed an app, not having to do a virus scan period.

More importantly, performance lag, apps crashing, and other funky behavior was common on the Android phones i've had (bad luck, maybe?), and were very rare on the iPhone.

To me, one of the biggest issues with Android is the fact that it's Java coded, which has more inefficiencies than iOS which is C+++ coded, and it seems like the quad core cpu's and the long list of amusing features that don't get used much, is their attempt to compensate for the laggyness inherent in their OS. It's the same latency issue that is the reason why you cant plug in instruments.

But the biggest reason, is the apps. Android has tons of apps, but it has nothing to do with quantity, it's the fact that many of the best apps don't come out for Android. And when it does, it's often much later, or it's an iOS port, meaning the performance is not as good, because it doesn't utilize the top android phones GPU's, therefore games have dropped framerates.

But if I wanted to make a list of things iOS does that Android can't, I could:


1-Bit Ninja
100 Rogues
1001 Attempts
247 Missles
4NR
AC/DC Pinball Rocks
Action Driver
Action Movie FX
Aerox
Alive 4ever
Alive 4ever Returns
Amateur Surgeon 2
Amazing Ants
Ampkit
Amplitube
Animoog
Apocalypse Max
Aquaria
Aralon
Arc Squadron
Archetype
Arms Cartel
Arranger
Ascension
Autumn Dynasty
Back to the Future Episode 1-5
Backspaces
Ballistik Wars
Band of the Day
Barefoot World Atlas
Bastion
Batman Arhkam City Lockdown
Battle Academy
Battle Bears Royale
Battleland: Warrior vs Monster HD
Battle Of The Bulge (Shenandoah Studios)
Battlefriends At Sea
Battleship (Hasbro)
Beatdown!
Beatmaker
Beatronome
Bike Baron
Bit Dungeon
Bladeslinger: Ep 1
Bloom HD
Blue Note
Blueprint 3D
Bookworm (Popcap Games)
Bounty Bots
Bubble Galaxy
Bubble Seasons
Bullet Time HD
Bumpy Road
Burnout Crash!
Call Of Snakes
Car Town Streets
Carmageddon
Castle Age
Cat Physics
Catapult King
Catch The Ark
Chimpact
Cinebeat
Circuit Playground
Clash Of Clans
Coaster Crazy
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
CraftedBattle
Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart
Crazy Bill
Crazy Quest (Grahams Solutions)
Crazy Taxi (Sega)
CSR Racing
Cubed Rally Racer
Cubed Rally Redline
Cyto
Danmaku Unlimited
Danmaku Unlimited 2
Deal Or No Deal
Deepworld (MMO)
Devil May Cry 4: Refrain
Devils At The Gate: Pacific War HD
Disney Super Speedway
DJay
DM1
Dondonpachi Maximum
Dragon Island Blue
Dragon Skies
Dream of Pixels
Dungeon Story
Earn To Die
Elements Defender
Epoch
Escape The Swamp
Eternal Legacy
Expand It!
Fairway Solitaire
Fieldrunners 2
FIFA 13
Fight Night Champion
Figure
Filtratron
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Chaos Rings II
FL Studio
Flight Unlimited Las Vegas
Flashout 3D
Flick Home Run
Freeskate
Fishmoto
Galactic Phantasy
Galactic Phantasy: Prelude
Garage Band
Gear Jack
Gems with Friends
GeoDash: Wild Animal Adventure
GeoSociety
Gesundheit
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Girls Like Robots
Glitchamaphone
Glitchbreaks
Golden Axe 2
Graffiti Me!
Gravity.Duck
Groove Coaster
GTA: Chinatown Wars
Gun Bros 2
Hairy Tales
Hay Day
He-Man
Heal Me!
Hector: Badge Of Carnage
Hero of Sparta 2
Heroes and Castles
Hundreds
I, Gladiator
iKaossilator
I Am T Pain
I Dig It
I Dig It: Expeditions
I Love Katamari
iSequencer HD
iMPC
Impressionism HD
Incoboto
Infinity Blade
Infinity Blade II
Infinity Field
Into The Dead
Ironman 2
iTunes U
Joe Danger
Jool
Judge Dredd: Countdown Sector 106
Juggle It
Jumping Finn
Kaptain Brawe: A Brawe New World
King Cashing: Slots Adventure
King Cashing 2
Kingdom Rush
Korg iElectribe
Korg iMS-20
Korg iKaossilator
Korg iPolysix
Le Havre (Codito Dev)
League Of Evil 2
Legendary Wars
Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4
Leggo Harry Potter: Years 5-7
Letterpress
Lightning Assault
Limbo
Little Acorns (Chillingo)
Little Inferno
Little Masters
Living Earth
Lostwinds 2: Winter of the Melodias
Luminosity Brain Trainer
Lunar Silver Star Story
Macguffins Curse
Mad Skills BMX
Madcoaster
Mage Gauntlet
Magic 2013
Marvel VS Campcom 3
Matching with Friends
Mega Man X
MetalStorm
Micro Miners
Might & Magic: Clash Of Heroes
Mikey Shorts
Minigore
Minigore 2
Mirrors Edge
ModCloth
Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2
Monkey Island 3
Monsters Inc: Run
Monster Wars
Mr. Ninja
Mr. Oops!
Multitrack DAW
Mutant Fridge Mayhem
Myst
Nano Studio
Need For Speed Shift 2 Unleashed
Need For Speed Undercover
Negative Nimbus
Neuroshima Hex Puzzle
New Puzzle Bobble
New Bust A Move
Noble Nutlings
NY Zombies
NY Zombies 2
Ocarina (Smule)
ORC: Vengeance
Orphion
Outwitters
Ovenbreak 2
Over HD
Parallax 2
Penny Arcade: The Game
Penumbear
Percolator
Phantasy Star 2
Pheed
Phoenix HD
Phoenix Wright
Pilot's Path
Pixel People
Pix'n Love Rush: DX
Pocket Army
Pocket Climber
Pocket Heroes
Pocket Zoo HD
Polymer
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Pro Pool 2012
Puerto Rico HD
Punch Quest
Puppetshow: Mystery of Joyville
Puzzle Agent
Puzzle Craft
Rad Soldiers
Radia
Rainbow Six: Shadow Vanguard
Rage HD
Rage Of The Gladiator
Rat On A Jet Ski
Rat On A Snowboard
Ravenmark
Ravensword: Shadowlands
Real Boxing
ReBirth
Reckless Racing 2
Red Conquest
Repulze
Revenge of the Rob-O-Bot
RISK
Robokill
Robot Rampage
Rockband
Rockmate
Roland VR-09 Editor
Samplr
Samurai II: Dojo
Samurai Bloodshow
Scale Wizard
Scribble Hero
Scribblenauts
Shadow Guardian
Shadow Love
Shadow Warrior
Shining Force
Shufflepuck Cantina
Sid Miers Civilization
Sid Miers Pirates
Skate It
Skee-Ball 2
Sky Gamblers: Storm Raiders
Skylanders: Cloud Patrol
Slayer Pinball
Slender Rising
Slingshot Puzzle HD
Slingshot Racing
Smash Cops
Snapguide
Solforge
Sonic & Sega All Star Racing
Soul Calibur
Spellcraft
SpellTower
Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor
Split Pic
Spunk And Moxie
Stack The States
Starfront Collision
Stompbox (guitar effects)
Storm In A Teacup
Strange Loves 1: Vampire Boyfriends
Street Fighter Volt
Street Figher VS Tekken
Strum
Summoner Wars
Super Hexagon
Supermagical
Swing King
Swordigo
Tab Toolkit
Table Top Racing
Tactical Soldier
Tentacles: Enter The Dolphin
The 7th Guest
The Gods: Rebellion
The Grading Game
The History Channel
The Infinity Project 2
The Last Express
The Lords of Midnight
The Math Tree
The Room
The Silent Age
The Simpsons Arcade
The Simpsons: Tapped Out
The Sims 3: Ambitions
The Sims 3: World Adventures
The Sims Medieval
The Voice: On Stage
The Walking Dead: The Game. Episode 1-5
The World Ends With You
Ticket To Ride Pocket
Ticket To Ride Europe
Time Geeks: Find All
Time Surfer
Tiny Sheep
Tiny Wings
Toca Band
Toca Hair Salon
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Shadow Vanguard
Tom Clancy's Hawk
Total Recoil
Touch Hockey 2
Touchgrind
Tractor DJ
Trenches
Trenches II
Trivial Pursuit
True Skate
Turtles, Huh?
Twisted Lands: Origin HD
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
Unstuck
Verticus
Vintagio
Wake The Cat
Warpspeed 2
West Legends
Wimp: Who stole my pants?
Wind Tunnel
Wipeout
Worms 2: Armageddon
Worms Crazy Golf
Wurdle
X-Plane (Extreme/Airliner/Helicopter/Carrier)
Yahtzee HD
Yesterday
You Don't Know Jack
Zombie Gunship
Zombieville USA 2
Zuma's Revenge

LIVEFRMNYC
May 6, 2013, 11:34 PM
Here we go again with the almighty list of games most careless about. :rolleyes:

Waste of thread space indeed.

cnev3
May 6, 2013, 11:37 PM
Here we go again with the almighty list of games most careless about. :rolleyes:

Umm, a lot of those aren't games.

Did you actually read what I posted, aside from the app list?

Switchback666
May 6, 2013, 11:41 PM
So you made a list that proves the iphone is childs play ? :o hey if you're productive playing games, carry on.

cnev3
May 6, 2013, 11:45 PM
So you made a list that proves the iphone is childs play ? :o hey if you're productive playing games, carry on.

All apps. actually, in every category. Business, Art, Entertainment, Music, Photography, Video Editing, Education....

Can't say I can recall any key Android apps that aren't on iOS. Can you?

Ashe9
May 6, 2013, 11:54 PM
This is what we can do in Android/S4 that you cant with Iphone/IOS. It is a long list but you may say they are gimmicks. Bottom line is between the have and have not.


- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open any file using any registered & installed apps.

- Easily share any files/contents via any registered share providerss (BT, Wifi, cloud storages, social networks, usb etc). You can add new share streams easily (by installing apps). No need to wait for OS upgrade like Iphone.

- Ability to download/save any files from any sources (browser, apps etc) into the phone storage. No need to use dropbox like iphone wasting cellular data and battery life or slow response.

- Files copied to phone storage are accessible by any built-in/3rd party apps. (on iphone for example, you need to reload itunes media files in the phone to dropbox if you want to use 3rd party media players instead of stock iphone player)

-Ability to attach multiple files of any types to email (incl. re-edit re-attach). Ability to edit/view any attachments as long as there is a installed app that handles the file type.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Easily set custom ringtone. Just copy rintone files to phone via any available means (bt, wifi, cloud etc). It will show up in ringtone selection. No need to go thru tedious steps (like in iOS)

- Tap on NFC sticker to automate task (e.g tap NFC sticker in car will auto turn on BT, start music playing, set the phone to "drive" mode and activate turn-by-turn navigation app).

- Set phone to only allows calls from "Family" contact group from 12-7am. Plus auto reject any calls that is in the blacklist. You can set-up multiple schedules (unlike iOS "do not disturb")

- If there is a "meeting" entry in calendar, phone auto change to vibrate mode and only allows "family" and "work" contact group calls during the meeting period. (No need to remember to flip the silent switch on/off like in Iphone).

- Phone conversation recording is auto turned on for calls with a certain prefix. Plus you can play a tune or send a pre-defined message to callers if you didnt pick up the phone.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Direct dial/sms with picture icon on desktop or in folder for quick one touch operation. Plus ability to create shortcuts to any files/contents for quick one-touch access.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to ANY social networks (without needing to open the apps manually).

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Ability to use "live" wallpaper to beautify your home scree OR ability to auto-change static wallpaper periodically. Plus use transparent icons without labels on desktop screen. Also use gestures for tasks/app launching (e.g. tap or swipe-up for different operations)

- Use widgets to display self-updating current essential info (tw,fb,g+,IMs,stock,weather etc) on the desktop screens. No need for tedious one-by-one opening of apps to view new information like in Iphone.

- Phone will keep the screen on if it detects that you are looking at the screen (Smart Stay).

- Smart Rotation to rotate the screen based on the orientation of your eyes and sensor. Reduces all the unwanted screen rotations.

- Turn the phone over to switch to vibrate mode (or have ring silenced during incoming call). Tilt phone to zoom when in gallery/browser.

- Multi-use LED indicator for events (missed call/sms etc). Also can have repeated sound reminders for missed call/sms/calendar/other events.

- Quickly toogle phone settings from notification area. Easily set alerts to notify of cell duration/data usage.

- True multi-tasking allows for concurrently running "stacked" applications. Use the hard "Back" button to easily navigate back from stacked application windows. (no need to fumble about and wasting time to restart previous app like in Iphone)

- Fully working and always-on Skype, G+, voip... etc (receive as well as make calls). Plus Integration to phone contact to easily initiate call/video-call/message directly from phone contact.

- Soft keyboard with multi-words prediction and easy punctuations (i.e. less typing). Include swype keyboard and T9 keyboard. Also IN-PHONE voice to text module without needing to connect to Internet (jelly bean).

- Easy unlock lockscreen (swipe in any direction - no need to look for unlock switch). Able to use pattern lock or facial unlock. Lock screen includes 5 shortcuts which activate app directly. Ability to add widgets to lockscreen (4.2 above)

- Able to use voice commands to change phone settings + do navigation + etc.

- Easily connect portable devices (hard disk, usb-hub, keyboards, game controllers, Bluetooth devices) to phone and use them with the USBToGo/usb-host capability.

- Ability to create unrestricted phone-to-other-devices wireless connection via Wi-Fi Direct and BT.

- Much more functional camera/video taking app (video in video, eraser shot, panorama, multi-shot, best shot, share shot, buddy shot, smile shot, take photo/video in various resolutions, iso selection etc)

- Output phone display to external monitor/TV using cheap and non-proprietary HDMI-out cable. Add a Bluetooth mouse and you can replicate what you can do with Apple TV (at much cheaper price and certainly much more portable)

- Use DLNA to stream media to any DLNA-enabled devices without needing expensive add-on equipments (like apple tv).

- Able to load into phone and play any media files (avi, mkv, divx) directly without tedious conversion. (i.e. transfer files into phone via bt,wifi,cloud etc and play). Unlike Iphone/iOS where you can only load media from one master itunes PC and also wasting time waiting for Itunes to convert these videos.

- Able to play video in popup window (i.e Popup Play). You can continue to watch video while doing other tasks simultaneously.

- Able to expand phone storage to max 96 Gb. Potential can have unlimited in-phone storage by attaching a portable drive using the USBToGo capability.

- Better productivity with much faster scrolling capability than iphone. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY

- Removable battery for extended use without needing to carry heavy/bulky external battery packs. Replaceable/removable back cover so you can enjoy and use phone without casing if you want to (without worrying of expensive scratch repairs).

- Able to set a reading font size in browser. When zoomed in, text always appear at this specified font size. Text is also reflow to fit the screen for easy reading without side-scrolling.

- Legacy Flash plugin support to view flash sites (incl. browser embedded you-tube)

- Able to press the home-button to answer call or power button to end call. Plus set speed dial numbers on the Phone dialpad. And predictive contact search via dialpad.

- Able to use motion do to tasks (flip over to silent sound, tilt to zoom, shake to unlock phone, etc)

- GOOGLE NOW that is integrated into the OS

- Able to SEAMLESSLY replace any stock apps with 3rd party apps to upgrade or improve functionalities. Also, app automatically scale up to match screen size (unlike Iphone 5 which runs older app with letterbox strips)

- Better overall and more functional Google-based services/apps. Ability to search for and install apps using PC browsers. Ability to "side-load" apps without going through online app store. Ability to backup your phone to microSD card.

- Able to selectively add multiple Google accounts to phone. You can also selectively select what data to sync to phone from you google account(s).

- Much larger physical screen.

Meh, nice to have, but can live without. Most of those get very selective to the point where you're just choosing features Samsung is throwing together. Few of those are daily uses, and even fewer assist in productivity.

Overall user experience tends to be positive with iOS and mixed on Android. That alone sets the two OS apart.

A lot of times Android gets praised for its widgets. And while they are nice, they are often selective and shortcuts from using very well designed apps. As a developer, I've gained an appreciation for iOS, in that apps are much more immersive on this platform. To a developer, that is a very nice thing.

Switchback666
May 6, 2013, 11:55 PM
All apps. actually, in every category. Business, Art, Entertainment, Music, Photography, Video Editing, Education....

Can't say I can recall any key Android apps that aren't on iOS. Can you?

My friend the usual suspects are in both plataforms (the relevant ones) aside for exclusives in both OS apps are the same and the android version have more options/function ex. dropbox.

LIVEFRMNYC
May 6, 2013, 11:57 PM
Umm, a lot of those aren't games.

Did you actually read what I posted, aside from the app list?

Take the games out of the list then, and we'll see how much shorter it is. ;)

Switchback666
May 7, 2013, 12:01 AM
Who tha hell had to wait for "virus scan" on android phones :confused:

kokhean
May 7, 2013, 01:22 AM
Who cares if it sucked 5 years ago? People only care about what it will do now.

Agreed.

mib1800
May 7, 2013, 01:40 AM
Meh, nice to have, but can live without. Most of those get very selective to the point where you're just choosing features Samsung is throwing together. Few of those are daily uses, and even fewer assist in productivity.

It is not just Samsung throwing features. Most in the list are the capability of Android itself. If you have a closed mindset that what is offered by iOS/iphone is all that you ever need then you are missing out a lot. Android opens up many more possibilities so that you can do much more stuff with the phone that you never think is possible.


Overall user experience tends to be positive with iOS and mixed on Android. That alone sets the two OS apart.


Only if you are a basic phone user then iphone may be positive. I used Symbian/WM before going to Android. I had an iphone for a while. For me the iphone is the worst experience. Imagine my frustration that I can't bluetooth files or make 3G video call (when even the dumbest of dumb 3G phone can). Or I have to install and learn how to use the p.o.s software called Itunes before I can load stuff into the phone. And to my dismay that if I setup itunes in another PC, then all my stuff in the phone will be wiped out if I connect to that PC. And also the most ridiculous is I load/save files within an application but those files are completely wiped when I uninstall the app.


A lot of times Android gets praised for its widgets. And while they are nice, they are often selective and shortcuts from using very well designed apps. As a developer, I've gained an appreciation for iOS, in that apps are much more immersive on this platform. To a developer, that is a very nice thing.

If you are a developer, then you should know how restrictive the iOS API is. iOS app exists in its own silo. Your app cannot even interact with the OS and other apps or response to system/user events or run as a service/background app. How can you even say iOS app is immersive into the platform?

kdlt
May 7, 2013, 01:42 AM
I was asking for a gamechanger.

Unless you use all of them everyday... This phrase applies to your phone:

"Nice to have... The point?"

cnev3
May 7, 2013, 01:53 AM
Take the games out of the list then, and we'll see how much shorter it is. ;)

I purposely included mostly games, because it's an artistic, unique product. If I list an app like Pages, you'll just say, Android has something that does the same thing, its called, ect...

But i'll focus more on utility and productivity apps when I do the next revision.

I will say off the top of my head that iTunes U, JamUP, iMovie, and Nano Studio are essential non gaming apps that I missed the most when I switched to Android.

As far as a list of key android apps not available for ios? I'd love to see that.

Anyways, all my points in my original reply still stand.

Android has its share of things it does better. but content is not one of them.

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Who tha hell had to wait for "virus scan" on android phones :confused:

I did on my android phones. Granted, the virus scan was very brief. But when it runs so often, its annoying as hell. I'm not sure if it was even possible to remove the virus scanner, regardless, that didnt matter, because if I did remove it, I would always suspect that the issues I was having may have been caused by a bad app or virus, so the virus scan was necessary to have as a troubleshooting step.

chrisrosemusic1
May 7, 2013, 01:53 AM
As pointed out in above posts...

We are supposedly in the "right" forum to discuss this stuff seeing as we're in that alternative to iOS blah blah blah sub-forum

Yes, 'discuss'. Not just slog out pointless jabs and quarrelling like 10 year olds.

Switchback666
May 7, 2013, 03:15 AM
I purposely included mostly games, because it's an artistic, unique product. If I list an app like Pages, you'll just say, Android has something that does the same thing, its called, ect...

But i'll focus more on utility and productivity apps when I do the next revision.

I will say off the top of my head that iTunes U, JamUP, iMovie, and Nano Studio are essential non gaming apps that I missed the most when I switched to Android.

As far as a list of key android apps not available for ios? I'd love to see that.

Anyways, all my points in my original reply still stand.

Android has its share of things it does better. but content is not one of them.

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I did on my android phones. Granted, the virus scan was very brief. But when it runs so often, its annoying as hell. I'm not sure if it was even possible to remove the virus scanner, regardless, that didnt matter, because if I did remove it, I would always suspect that the issues I was having may have been caused by a bad app or virus, so the virus scan was necessary to have as a troubleshooting step.

Again never heard of the term or even android phone that came pre-installed with an anti-virus.

Anyway itunes u and imovie will never available on other OS, the other 2 i assume are some sort of music/amp apps.

The-Real-Deal82
May 7, 2013, 03:27 AM
Yes I did jump from my iPhone 4s to the Samsung Galaxy S4. The reason I jumped before I got the phone is because I am sick of iOS being the samee ach year and it doesnt change.

Instantly after getting the S4 I knew I made the right choice, if I do not like something on the phone I can just change it. Coming from iOS widgets are very good and convenient for me, I also like lock screen widgets which are customisable, I also got 50gb of dropbox for free for 2 years and can store 20000 songs in the google cloud.

I would highly recommend changing to android.
First of all good for you in regards to getting the phone you want. If you are happy with that choice then great.

Your opening paragraph does puzzle me though. It sounds to me like you haven't been keeping up with the tech news of late or been reading this forum. We are a month away from what is being tipped as a complete iOS re-design and are yet to see what that brings. You obviously like Apple products as I see what you own from your signature, so why couldn't you wait a few weeks just to see what iOS 7 is all about? I don't think personally I would have jumped before I at least saw what was coming as its a lot of money to lay out if your opinion changes. Then again if you are happy with the S4 it should make little difference and I hope you feel you have made the right choice in the long term. I got fed up with Android and sold my S3 so I suppose I view this from the opposite direction. :)

mib1800
May 7, 2013, 03:35 AM
I purposely included mostly games, because it's an artistic, unique product. If I list an app like Pages, you'll just say, Android has something that does the same thing, its called, ect...

But i'll focus more on utility and productivity apps when I do the next revision.

I will say off the top of my head that iTunes U, JamUP, iMovie, and Nano Studio are essential non gaming apps that I missed the most when I switched to Android.

As far as a list of key android apps not available for ios? I'd love to see that.

Anyways, all my points in my original reply still stand.

Android has its share of things it does better. but content is not one of them.

So you consider "iTunes U, JamUP, iMovie, and Nano Studio" key apps? Apps are just apps. What is important to you may not be to someone else. a full-fledge file manager like "ES Explorer" is essential to me. Obviously to someone using Iphone they dont see a need for this since there is no such thing as a user file system in iOS. Same with Call Manager app that filters and manage your call or profile manager to switch phone states automatically or 2-way phone call recording app etc etc.

I bet we can find some equivalent Android apps to those examples you gave for iPhone. But I think you can NEVER find any equivalent in IOS for those I stated.



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I did on my android phones. Granted, the virus scan was very brief. But when it runs so often, its annoying as hell. I'm not sure if it was even possible to remove the virus scanner, regardless, that didnt matter, because if I did remove it, I would always suspect that the issues I was having may have been caused by a bad app or virus, so the virus scan was necessary to have as a troubleshooting step.

Are you sure you have used virus scanner in Android before? :p
The virus scanner only runs after you update/install an app (i.e. it scans the apk file). It certainly doesnt run all the time.

sk1wbw
May 7, 2013, 07:03 AM
Android doesn't support icon badges as default and Android's backup by default sucks balls. If you backup and restore an iPhone, everything gets backed up but not on Android. Nothing gets backed up. I've done this before on both the iPhone, iPad, and my Nexus 7. It's a serious pain in the ass.

And honestly, I can't stand Android's notification center. It gets so very cluttered with icons after a bit and you can't set how each app displays notifications like you can on iOS.

KentuckyHouse
May 7, 2013, 07:37 AM
I was asking for a gamechanger.

Unless you use all of them everyday... This phrase applies to your phone:

"Nice to have... The point?"

:rolleyes:

Here's your game changer...

This is what we can do in Android/S4 that you cant with Iphone/IOS. It is a long list but you may say they are gimmicks. Bottom line is between the have and have not.


- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open any file using any registered & installed apps.

- Easily share any files/contents via any registered share providerss (BT, Wifi, cloud storages, social networks, usb etc). You can add new share streams easily (by installing apps). No need to wait for OS upgrade like Iphone.

- Ability to download/save any files from any sources (browser, apps etc) into the phone storage. No need to use dropbox like iphone wasting cellular data and battery life or slow response.

- Files copied to phone storage are accessible by any built-in/3rd party apps. (on iphone for example, you need to reload itunes media files in the phone to dropbox if you want to use 3rd party media players instead of stock iphone player)

-Ability to attach multiple files of any types to email (incl. re-edit re-attach). Ability to edit/view any attachments as long as there is a installed app that handles the file type.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Easily set custom ringtone. Just copy rintone files to phone via any available means (bt, wifi, cloud etc). It will show up in ringtone selection. No need to go thru tedious steps (like in iOS)

- Tap on NFC sticker to automate task (e.g tap NFC sticker in car will auto turn on BT, start music playing, set the phone to "drive" mode and activate turn-by-turn navigation app).

- Set phone to only allows calls from "Family" contact group from 12-7am. Plus auto reject any calls that is in the blacklist. You can set-up multiple schedules (unlike iOS "do not disturb")

- If there is a "meeting" entry in calendar, phone auto change to vibrate mode and only allows "family" and "work" contact group calls during the meeting period. (No need to remember to flip the silent switch on/off like in Iphone).

- Phone conversation recording is auto turned on for calls with a certain prefix. Plus you can play a tune or send a pre-defined message to callers if you didnt pick up the phone.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Direct dial/sms with picture icon on desktop or in folder for quick one touch operation. Plus ability to create shortcuts to any files/contents for quick one-touch access.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to ANY social networks (without needing to open the apps manually).

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Ability to use "live" wallpaper to beautify your home scree OR ability to auto-change static wallpaper periodically. Plus use transparent icons without labels on desktop screen. Also use gestures for tasks/app launching (e.g. tap or swipe-up for different operations)

- Use widgets to display self-updating current essential info (tw,fb,g+,IMs,stock,weather etc) on the desktop screens. No need for tedious one-by-one opening of apps to view new information like in Iphone.

- Phone will keep the screen on if it detects that you are looking at the screen (Smart Stay).

- Smart Rotation to rotate the screen based on the orientation of your eyes and sensor. Reduces all the unwanted screen rotations.

- Turn the phone over to switch to vibrate mode (or have ring silenced during incoming call). Tilt phone to zoom when in gallery/browser.

- Multi-use LED indicator for events (missed call/sms etc). Also can have repeated sound reminders for missed call/sms/calendar/other events.

- Quickly toogle phone settings from notification area. Easily set alerts to notify of cell duration/data usage.

- True multi-tasking allows for concurrently running "stacked" applications. Use the hard "Back" button to easily navigate back from stacked application windows. (no need to fumble about and wasting time to restart previous app like in Iphone)

- Fully working and always-on Skype, G+, voip... etc (receive as well as make calls). Plus Integration to phone contact to easily initiate call/video-call/message directly from phone contact.

- Soft keyboard with multi-words prediction and easy punctuations (i.e. less typing). Include swype keyboard and T9 keyboard. Also IN-PHONE voice to text module without needing to connect to Internet (jelly bean).

- Easy unlock lockscreen (swipe in any direction - no need to look for unlock switch). Able to use pattern lock or facial unlock. Lock screen includes 5 shortcuts which activate app directly. Ability to add widgets to lockscreen (4.2 above)

- Able to use voice commands to change phone settings + do navigation + etc.

- Easily connect portable devices (hard disk, usb-hub, keyboards, game controllers, Bluetooth devices) to phone and use them with the USBToGo/usb-host capability.

- Ability to create unrestricted phone-to-other-devices wireless connection via Wi-Fi Direct and BT.

- Much more functional camera/video taking app (video in video, eraser shot, panorama, multi-shot, best shot, share shot, buddy shot, smile shot, take photo/video in various resolutions, iso selection etc)

- Output phone display to external monitor/TV using cheap and non-proprietary HDMI-out cable. Add a Bluetooth mouse and you can replicate what you can do with Apple TV (at much cheaper price and certainly much more portable)

- Use DLNA to stream media to any DLNA-enabled devices without needing expensive add-on equipments (like apple tv).

- Able to load into phone and play any media files (avi, mkv, divx) directly without tedious conversion. (i.e. transfer files into phone via bt,wifi,cloud etc and play). Unlike Iphone/iOS where you can only load media from one master itunes PC and also wasting time waiting for Itunes to convert these videos.

- Able to play video in popup window (i.e Popup Play). You can continue to watch video while doing other tasks simultaneously.

- Able to expand phone storage to max 96 Gb. Potential can have unlimited in-phone storage by attaching a portable drive using the USBToGo capability.

- Better productivity with much faster scrolling capability than iphone. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY

- Removable battery for extended use without needing to carry heavy/bulky external battery packs. Replaceable/removable back cover so you can enjoy and use phone without casing if you want to (without worrying of expensive scratch repairs).

- Able to set a reading font size in browser. When zoomed in, text always appear at this specified font size. Text is also reflow to fit the screen for easy reading without side-scrolling.

- Legacy Flash plugin support to view flash sites (incl. browser embedded you-tube)

- Able to press the home-button to answer call or power button to end call. Plus set speed dial numbers on the Phone dialpad. And predictive contact search via dialpad.

- Able to use motion do to tasks (flip over to silent sound, tilt to zoom, shake to unlock phone, etc)

- GOOGLE NOW that is integrated into the OS

- Able to SEAMLESSLY replace any stock apps with 3rd party apps to upgrade or improve functionalities. Also, app automatically scale up to match screen size (unlike Iphone 5 which runs older app with letterbox strips)

- Better overall and more functional Google-based services/apps. Ability to search for and install apps using PC browsers. Ability to "side-load" apps without going through online app store. Ability to backup your phone to microSD card.

- Able to selectively add multiple Google accounts to phone. You can also selectively select what data to sync to phone from you google account(s).

- Much larger physical screen.

BTW, what do you consider a "game changer" on iOS? That's a serious question.

nizmoz
May 7, 2013, 08:14 AM
IMHO, the biggest thing is this. The government doesn't use Android devices because they are not secure enough. They use iphones and whats left of BlackBerries. I work for the government and until they get tighter security on the android platforms they won't use them because people can bypass the security on them easily.

Also the iphone has way more accessories than an Android device can dream about. Also way more support in the aftermarket.

sk1wbw
May 7, 2013, 08:28 AM
:rolleyes:

Here's your game changer...

This is what we can do in Android/S4 that you cant with Iphone/IOS. It is a long list but you may say they are gimmicks. Bottom line is between the have and have not.


- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open any file using any registered & installed apps.

- Easily share any files/contents via any registered share providerss (BT, Wifi, cloud storages, social networks, usb etc). You can add new share streams easily (by installing apps). No need to wait for OS upgrade like Iphone.

- Ability to download/save any files from any sources (browser, apps etc) into the phone storage. No need to use dropbox like iphone wasting cellular data and battery life or slow response.

- Files copied to phone storage are accessible by any built-in/3rd party apps. (on iphone for example, you need to reload itunes media files in the phone to dropbox if you want to use 3rd party media players instead of stock iphone player)

-Ability to attach multiple files of any types to email (incl. re-edit re-attach). Ability to edit/view any attachments as long as there is a installed app that handles the file type.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Easily set custom ringtone. Just copy rintone files to phone via any available means (bt, wifi, cloud etc). It will show up in ringtone selection. No need to go thru tedious steps (like in iOS)

- Tap on NFC sticker to automate task (e.g tap NFC sticker in car will auto turn on BT, start music playing, set the phone to "drive" mode and activate turn-by-turn navigation app).

- Set phone to only allows calls from "Family" contact group from 12-7am. Plus auto reject any calls that is in the blacklist. You can set-up multiple schedules (unlike iOS "do not disturb")

- If there is a "meeting" entry in calendar, phone auto change to vibrate mode and only allows "family" and "work" contact group calls during the meeting period. (No need to remember to flip the silent switch on/off like in Iphone).

- Phone conversation recording is auto turned on for calls with a certain prefix. Plus you can play a tune or send a pre-defined message to callers if you didnt pick up the phone.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Direct dial/sms with picture icon on desktop or in folder for quick one touch operation. Plus ability to create shortcuts to any files/contents for quick one-touch access.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to ANY social networks (without needing to open the apps manually).

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Ability to use "live" wallpaper to beautify your home scree OR ability to auto-change static wallpaper periodically. Plus use transparent icons without labels on desktop screen. Also use gestures for tasks/app launching (e.g. tap or swipe-up for different operations)

- Use widgets to display self-updating current essential info (tw,fb,g+,IMs,stock,weather etc) on the desktop screens. No need for tedious one-by-one opening of apps to view new information like in Iphone.

- Phone will keep the screen on if it detects that you are looking at the screen (Smart Stay).

- Smart Rotation to rotate the screen based on the orientation of your eyes and sensor. Reduces all the unwanted screen rotations.

- Turn the phone over to switch to vibrate mode (or have ring silenced during incoming call). Tilt phone to zoom when in gallery/browser.

- Multi-use LED indicator for events (missed call/sms etc). Also can have repeated sound reminders for missed call/sms/calendar/other events.

- Quickly toogle phone settings from notification area. Easily set alerts to notify of cell duration/data usage.

- True multi-tasking allows for concurrently running "stacked" applications. Use the hard "Back" button to easily navigate back from stacked application windows. (no need to fumble about and wasting time to restart previous app like in Iphone)

- Fully working and always-on Skype, G+, voip... etc (receive as well as make calls). Plus Integration to phone contact to easily initiate call/video-call/message directly from phone contact.

- Soft keyboard with multi-words prediction and easy punctuations (i.e. less typing). Include swype keyboard and T9 keyboard. Also IN-PHONE voice to text module without needing to connect to Internet (jelly bean).

- Easy unlock lockscreen (swipe in any direction - no need to look for unlock switch). Able to use pattern lock or facial unlock. Lock screen includes 5 shortcuts which activate app directly. Ability to add widgets to lockscreen (4.2 above)

- Able to use voice commands to change phone settings + do navigation + etc.

- Easily connect portable devices (hard disk, usb-hub, keyboards, game controllers, Bluetooth devices) to phone and use them with the USBToGo/usb-host capability.

- Ability to create unrestricted phone-to-other-devices wireless connection via Wi-Fi Direct and BT.

- Much more functional camera/video taking app (video in video, eraser shot, panorama, multi-shot, best shot, share shot, buddy shot, smile shot, take photo/video in various resolutions, iso selection etc)

- Output phone display to external monitor/TV using cheap and non-proprietary HDMI-out cable. Add a Bluetooth mouse and you can replicate what you can do with Apple TV (at much cheaper price and certainly much more portable)

- Use DLNA to stream media to any DLNA-enabled devices without needing expensive add-on equipments (like apple tv).

- Able to load into phone and play any media files (avi, mkv, divx) directly without tedious conversion. (i.e. transfer files into phone via bt,wifi,cloud etc and play). Unlike Iphone/iOS where you can only load media from one master itunes PC and also wasting time waiting for Itunes to convert these videos.

- Able to play video in popup window (i.e Popup Play). You can continue to watch video while doing other tasks simultaneously.

- Able to expand phone storage to max 96 Gb. Potential can have unlimited in-phone storage by attaching a portable drive using the USBToGo capability.

- Better productivity with much faster scrolling capability than iphone. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY

- Removable battery for extended use without needing to carry heavy/bulky external battery packs. Replaceable/removable back cover so you can enjoy and use phone without casing if you want to (without worrying of expensive scratch repairs).

- Able to set a reading font size in browser. When zoomed in, text always appear at this specified font size. Text is also reflow to fit the screen for easy reading without side-scrolling.

- Legacy Flash plugin support to view flash sites (incl. browser embedded you-tube)

- Able to press the home-button to answer call or power button to end call. Plus set speed dial numbers on the Phone dialpad. And predictive contact search via dialpad.

- Able to use motion do to tasks (flip over to silent sound, tilt to zoom, shake to unlock phone, etc)

- GOOGLE NOW that is integrated into the OS

- Able to SEAMLESSLY replace any stock apps with 3rd party apps to upgrade or improve functionalities. Also, app automatically scale up to match screen size (unlike Iphone 5 which runs older app with letterbox strips)

- Better overall and more functional Google-based services/apps. Ability to search for and install apps using PC browsers. Ability to "side-load" apps without going through online app store. Ability to backup your phone to microSD card.

- Able to selectively add multiple Google accounts to phone. You can also selectively select what data to sync to phone from you google account(s).

- Much larger physical screen.

BTW, what do you consider a "game changer" on iOS? That's a serious question.

A larger screen is NOT a functionality of Android. Wow.

KentuckyHouse
May 7, 2013, 09:53 AM
A larger screen is NOT a functionality of Android. Wow.

All of that and that's all you can pick out?

Ok, even if you take the larger screen off the list, you're left with a pretty impressive list of things you CAN do on Android that you CAN'T do on iOS.

And I'll re-ask my question. What do you (any of you) consider a "gamechanger" on iOS?

KentuckyHouse
May 7, 2013, 10:04 AM
Android doesn't support icon badges as default and Android's backup by default sucks balls. If you backup and restore an iPhone, everything gets backed up but not on Android. Nothing gets backed up. I've done this before on both the iPhone, iPad, and my Nexus 7. It's a serious pain in the ass.

And honestly, I can't stand Android's notification center. It gets so very cluttered with icons after a bit and you can't set how each app displays notifications like you can on iOS.

True about the icon badges, but this is an artifact of people that are so used to iOS. With iOS, you NEED icon badges because Apple won't allow status bar icons. On Android, you DON'T NEED icon badges because you're allowed to have status bar icons. Follow?

And if you just can't live without your icon badges, use a different launcher (like Nova Prime) and grab Tesla Unread to manage your badges. Done.

The backup thing just isn't true. The difference is, Apple manages your backups either through iCloud or iTunes. With Android, you have choices of different apps that backup your phone. If you're rooted, Titanium Backup is by far the best option. If you're not, then give Helium a try. You can easily back up your phone to your SD card or PC.

If you're talking about completely backing up your phone, wiping it, and then reinstalling that backup so the phone is exactly the way it was before, you also have great options. Root, install a custom recovery (either CWM or TWRP), boot into recovery, and create a Nandroid backup. Done. Your entire phone's image is now backed up and you can put it away for safe keeping.

And as far as the notifications go, I don't know what you're talking about. If you mean the status bar gets cluttered, it's easy to fix that. First, check your notifications...that will make the status bar icons disappear. Second, you can set most apps to not show a notification icon in the status bar. And if you're talking about apps that constantly show notification icons (something like an ad blocker), you can turn off those icons as well. It will tell you that you should leave it up there so the system doesn't kill the process, but that was really meant for OS's below ICS. Since then, the system won't kill processes like it used to.

This stuff isn't hard. You just have to get out there and read. Hopefully this has helped someone understand things involving Android a bit better.

LArdman
May 7, 2013, 10:07 AM
IMHO, the biggest thing is this. The government doesn't use Android devices because they are not secure enough. They use iphones and whats left of BlackBerries. I work for the government and until they get tighter security on the android platforms they won't use them because people can bypass the security on them easily.

This has changed, the S4 has been approved for Government use, more Samsung phones to follow:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57582695/pentagon-oks-samsung-galaxy-s4-for-its-networks-company-says/

nizmoz
May 7, 2013, 10:08 AM
This has changed, the S4 has been approved for Government use, more Samsung phones to follow:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57582695/pentagon-oks-samsung-galaxy-s4-for-its-networks-company-says/

Sorry but I work for the government and no it has not been approved throughout the whole system yet. Believe the news all you want but I work in the IS department. Plus unless they fix the ways to break through the security then I still do not see it being secure. And that is what we see.

KentuckyHouse
May 7, 2013, 10:24 AM
Because all the media outlets, online tech sites, and every other person reporting this, including MacRumors...is wrong.

Ok. :rolleyes:

nizmoz
May 7, 2013, 10:25 AM
Because all the media outlets, online tech sites, and every other person reporting this, including MacRumors...is wrong.

Ok. :rolleyes:

Yep, they are. Have a mod search my IP. I work for the government and posting from my desk right now. It is not supported yet period. It got "approved to be used" but not supported yet till it's reviewed and tested in house.

KentuckyHouse
May 7, 2013, 10:27 AM
Yep, they are. Have a mod search my IP. I work for the government and posting from my desk right now. It is not supported yet period. It got "approved to be used" but not supported yet till it's reviewed and tested in house.

And just for reference sake...

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/01/department-of-defense-ready-to-approve-ios-6-for-high-security-uses/

Right there on the bottom of the post...

"The DoD is also preparing to sign off on Samsung's Galaxy line of phones for similar uses."

BTW, I want to separate myself from the above poster. I realize this has been "approved for use", not implemented yet. But it's coming and that's what I believe we were trying to point out.

daveathall
May 7, 2013, 10:38 AM
Yep, they are. Have a mod search my IP. I work for the government and posting from my desk right now. It is not supported yet period. It got "approved to be used" but not supported yet till it's reviewed and tested in house.

You work for the government in security yet your ip address is traceable by mods of a message board? :rolleyes:

nizmoz
May 7, 2013, 10:44 AM
You work for the government in security yet your ip address is traceable by mods of a message board? :rolleyes:

If they are good enough they can see where it comes from. :rolleyes:

sentinelsx
May 7, 2013, 10:59 AM
Yep, they are. Have a mod search my IP. I work for the government and posting from my desk right now. It is not supported yet period. It got "approved to be used" but not supported yet till it's reviewed and tested in house.

That wasn't the point. The point is they will be used soon. Approved for use means the government thinks they are worthy to use.

We can argue about whether ios7 is "approved for use" by apple engineers or not, but we all know it will be here soon enough. No point arguing time lapses.

sk1wbw
May 7, 2013, 11:25 AM
All of that and that's all you can pick out?

Ok, even if you take the larger screen off the list, you're left with a pretty impressive list of things you CAN do on Android that you CAN'T do on iOS.

And I'll re-ask my question. What do you (any of you) consider a "gamechanger" on iOS?

Are you done measuring the length of your dick? Honestly, nobody gives a flying **** about that ****.

I've said it once and I'll say it again:

iPhone users USE their phone and Android users brag about stupid **** and **** with widgets.

sentinelsx
May 7, 2013, 11:33 AM
Are you done measuring the length of your dick? Honestly, nobody gives a flying **** about that ****.

I've said it once and I'll say it again:

iPhone users USE their phone and Android users brag about stupid **** and **** with widgets.

Way to generalize.

Never used widgets on my android phone and always used iOS and android identically.

Both work fine as smartphones.

VulchR
May 7, 2013, 11:38 AM
Wow. What an ill-tempered thread...

@OP: You really haven't given a detailed description of your experiences with the S4, Please update us once you have spent some time with it.

The-Real-Deal82
May 7, 2013, 11:41 AM
Way to generalize.

Never used widgets on my android phone and always used iOS and android identically.

Both work fine as smartphones.
Interesting because you lambasted me for having the same viewpoint as you have declared here on another thread and suggested because I didn't want widgets to come to iOS, I didn't want anyone else to have the option. I never made that claim in the first place but perhaps I didn't elaborate enough to make things clearer.

I have used widgets on my Android devices and got fed up of them. I don't like them but if they gave you freedom to turn them off unlike many of iOS's principles, I would support the freedom of choice should they come to the iPhone. Android give you the option which is great and I like yourself ended up using my Samsung S3 much the same way as I do with my present iPhone. Now what is wrong with admitting that and why did I get criticised for offering my personal preferences as a suggestion? Very puzzling indeed.

sk1wbw
May 7, 2013, 11:41 AM
Way to generalize.

Never used widgets on my android phone and always used iOS and android identically.

Both work fine as smartphones.

I don't use widgets on my Nexus 7 either, they take up way too much room on the screen. You seem like the exception to the rule though.

sentinelsx
May 7, 2013, 11:49 AM
Interesting because you lambasted me for having the same viewpoint as you have declared here on another thread and suggested because I didn't want widgets to come to iOS, I didn't want anyone else to have the option. I never made that claim in the first place but perhaps I didn't elaborate enough to make things clearer.

I have used widgets on my Android devices and got fed up of them. I don't like them but if they gave you freedom to turn them off unlike many of iOS's principles, I would support the freedom of choice should they come to the iPhone. Android give you the option which is great and I like yourself ended up using my Samsung S3 much the same way as I do with my present iPhone. Now what is wrong with admitting that and why did I get criticised for offering my personal preferences as a suggestion? Very puzzling indeed.

lol calm down mate. Di you notice a logical flaw in bold?

I will explain.

If you don't want widgets to come to iOS, you don't want anyone else to have that option.

Wait, how?

Because there is no one else making iOS handsets.

So if they don't come to iOS, no one gets them, period.

I could care less if they come or not. I don't use them anyway. I am pointing out the logical flaws you keep making.

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I don't use widgets on my Nexus 7 either, they take up way too much room on the screen. You seem like the exception to the rule though.

The only widget i did use was dashclock on lockscreen (N4 on 4.2.2) simply because it gave me lockscreen notifications and it looks like a 100% baked in feature thanks to the strict UI adherence by the developer.

I would probably use a widget on nexus 7 though. The thing is, their "view me only" nature is not something i like. I want much more interactive widgets and all we have a resize-able windows to show content. If i want to see content, i can simply tap on an app and save my battery life.


There are much more sane reasons to use android (at least to me) than widgets.

The-Real-Deal82
May 7, 2013, 11:55 AM
lol calm down mate. Di you notice a logical flaw in bold?

I will explain.

If you don't want widgets to come to iOS, you don't want anyone else to have that option.

Wait, how?

Because there is no one else making iOS handsets.

So if they don't come to iOS, no one gets them, period.

I could care less if they come or not. I don't use them anyway. I am pointing out the logical flaws you keep making.[COLOR="#808080"]

I have clarified this in the other thread on two occasions. Are those people who want widgets to come to iOS wrong too because it forces it on those that don't wish to see them, just out of interest? I think masking your intent as pointing out what you perceive to be logical flaws in my argument is just a way of seeking a reaction. I think I have answered your questions and put to bed any doubt you had that my initial argument was flawed.

maflynn
May 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
[MOD NOTE]
Looks like no further productive discussions are coming from this thread - closing.