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MacRumors
May 9, 2013, 01:42 PM
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Earlier today, Nowhereelse.fr highlighted (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/iphone-5s-composant-83534/) new part photos (http://blog.moumantai.biz/?eid=973096) posted by Japanese vendor Moumantai showing what is claimed to be from the iPhone 5S or perhaps Apple's lower-cost iPhone. The part corresponds to an iPhone 5 part attached to the top end of the main logic board, but does contain some layout differences.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/05/iphone_5s_antenna_part.jpg
Nowhereelse.fr and other sites have speculated that the part is related to camera functionality given its proximity to the front and rear cameras on the iPhone, but we chatted with iFixit (http://www.ifixit.com)'s Miro Djuric and determined that it appears to be primarily related to wireless antenna functionality, although its exact role has not been confirmed.

The corresponding iPhone 5 part houses a low noise amplifier (http://www.skyworksinc.com/categories.aspx?categoryid=4) from Skyworks that is involved in cellular connectivity. The part shown in the new photos also contains an antenna connector, which appears to correspond to one located nearby on the main logic board in the iPhone 5. That iPhone 5 connector is believed (but not confirmed) to be for the device's Wi-Fi antenna.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/05/iphone_5s_antenna_part_2.jpg
While Apple has tweaked the layout of this part somewhat, it is very similar to the corresponding iPhone 5 part and does not immediately reveal any major changes for the device that will use it.

Minor parts for the next-generation iPhone have been leaking (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/11/alleged-parts-for-upcoming-iphone-leak-again-mute-switch-to-become-push-button/) over the last several months, although identification of the devices associated with those parts has been made more difficult by rumors that Apple is looking to introduce both an iPhone 5S and a lower-cost iPhone later this year. In past years, Apple's strategy has been to release just one new model while keeping previous models available at lower price points.

Article Link: New Antenna-Related Part From Upcoming iPhone Surfaces (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/09/new-antenna-related-part-from-upcoming-iphone-surfaces/)



irfaanfaki
May 9, 2013, 01:45 PM
Hello to apple employees using iveOS 7.
How about a hint in the comment section as to whether it is going to be a 5S or 6

We know your watching us !!!!!

lolkthxbai
May 9, 2013, 01:46 PM
Wireless 802.11 ac? :D

keysofanxiety
May 9, 2013, 01:49 PM
My predictions for the next iPhone: thinner, lighter, same/better battery life.

I should be an analyst. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to add 'magical' to the list of features.

Shrink
May 9, 2013, 01:49 PM
Hello to apple employees using iveOS 7.
How about a hint in the comment section as to whether it is going to be a 5S or 6

We know your watching us !!!!!

Can you say...delusions of grandeur?:rolleyes:

Robert.Walter
May 9, 2013, 01:49 PM
"from-upcoming-iphone-surfaces"

For a moment I was afraid that there was a new hybrid product on the way...

But only for a moment, thankfully, shudder..,

camnchar
May 9, 2013, 01:53 PM
A possible antenna-related part of a possible new iPhone. I'm not sure I'll be able to sleep tonight after reading this.

testcard
May 9, 2013, 02:08 PM
Am I the only one here who looks at these leaked photos and thinks: "I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at". I might as well be gazing at an X-ray of my spleen.

needfx
May 9, 2013, 02:10 PM
Am I the only one here who looks at these leaked photos and thinks: "I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at". I might as well be gazing at an X-ray of my spleen.

so let HAL give it a look

whocaresit
May 9, 2013, 02:10 PM
Tim Cook has definitely doubled down on secrecy.. very few leaks as of late.

gcliv
May 9, 2013, 02:45 PM
I hope this is a sign of an antenna redesign so that there is a second antenna to take advantage of simultaneous data and voice on EVDO until VoLTE is a reality.

A guy can dream, anyway.

theBostonian
May 9, 2013, 02:46 PM
Am I the only one here who looks at these leaked photos and thinks: "I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at". I might as well be gazing at an X-ray of my spleen.

I thought soft tissue was essentially invisible to x-rays, thus your spleen wouldn't appear on the photo :(

JayCee842
May 9, 2013, 03:40 PM
Tim Cook has definitely doubled down on secrecy.. very few leaks as of late.

Not sure if insinuating sarcasm...mmmm...:o

AngerDanger
May 9, 2013, 04:04 PM
You ask for it, and Apple delivers! Finally, the warbley-wobbly internals we've been craving!

Nightarchaon
May 10, 2013, 06:07 AM
I thought soft tissue was essentially invisible to x-rays, thus your spleen wouldn't appear on the photo :(

Maybe he has a spleen of steel..

JGRE
May 10, 2013, 07:27 AM
Am I the only one here who looks at these leaked photos and thinks: "I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at". I might as well be gazing at an X-ray of my spleen.

I think the guys behind these photos are the same guys that made fuzzy photos in the past and than claimed to see big-foot or an ufo......:D

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I thought soft tissue was essentially invisible to x-rays, thus your spleen wouldn't appear on the photo :(

Wrong, it does using special liquids in your blood to make organs visable on x-ray. They do the same with kidney stones, but than with liquid in your urine.

jonnysods
May 10, 2013, 07:50 AM
Every time I see this it blows my mind how small they can make components now. Think back 20 years to cell phone antennae.

testcard
May 10, 2013, 08:12 AM
Wrong, it does using special liquids in your blood to make organs visable on x-ray. They do the same with kidney stones, but than with liquid in your urine.

Thank you Doctor. :D

nick_elt
May 10, 2013, 08:34 AM
I thought soft tissue was essentially invisible to x-rays, thus your spleen wouldn't appear on the photo :(

could be full of cancer cells? thats visible on xray....

bedifferent
May 10, 2013, 09:57 AM
Did someone mention NFC? :p

couldn't resist

Pierrep99
May 10, 2013, 04:02 PM
Along with many here I have been loyal to iphone for a long time but I sometimes want to scream when I see all these Android hardware devices that are leaving iphone way behind. It's frustrating that all I'm to expect is to add a letter to the new phone title and call it a new model. Give us more!!

theBostonian
May 10, 2013, 04:38 PM
Wrong, it does using special liquids in your blood to make organs visable on x-ray. They do the same with kidney stones, but than with liquid in your urine.

So I wasn't wrong, was I? An x-ray, on its own, by itself, without any sort of "special liquids" or kidney stones (which are not soft tissue) will not show soft tissue as I stated. :confused:

Dr McKay
May 10, 2013, 09:34 PM
So I wasn't wrong, was I? An x-ray, on its own, by itself, without any sort of "special liquids" or kidney stones (which are not soft tissue) will not show soft tissue as I stated. :confused:

However if you were looking at an X-Ray specifically of your organs, they'd have put the liquid in ;)

I can't help but feel we've gone off track here. :D

JGRE
May 11, 2013, 04:31 AM
So I wasn't wrong, was I? An x-ray, on its own, by itself, without any sort of "special liquids" or kidney stones (which are not soft tissue) will not show soft tissue as I stated. :confused:

Well, I just double checked and they can see tumors without contrast-fluids as a 'shadow' in soft tissue. With respect to the kidney stones, they cannot see the kidney stones themselves (to small) but they can see any obstruction caused by them in the urine flow using contrast-fluid. Soft tissue does show up on x-rays, only less visible than bones and stuff. So I guess you are wrong anyways. :p

theBostonian
May 11, 2013, 04:59 AM
However if you were looking at an X-Ray specifically of your organs, they'd have put the liquid in ;)

I can't help but feel we've gone off track here. :D

Yes, remind me never to make terrible jokes on an online forum.

This is mainly why I don't post very often, sigh...

testcard
May 11, 2013, 06:17 AM
This has gone more off-topic than I ever intended. I can only apologise.

scapegoat81
May 11, 2013, 06:45 AM
Am I the only one here who looks at these leaked photos and thinks: "I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at". I might as well be gazing at an X-ray of my spleen.

Yess Lmaooo

Shrink
May 11, 2013, 06:49 AM
Am I the only one here who looks at these leaked photos and thinks: "I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at". I might as well be gazing at an X-ray of my spleen.

Actually, I could probably identify pictures of my spleen, but I'm with you on the part pictures.

Not a clue...:confused:

steve09090
May 12, 2013, 11:28 PM
This has gone more off-topic than I ever intended. I can only apologise.

No you're fine. It's these random parts with a variance of a number or two that I find hard to get excited about. It's a science for some, so I can understand why they do. Just not for me.

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/steve09090/CalcifiedSpleen_zpsa1c06c18.jpg

Top right is the spleen :)

permol
May 13, 2013, 07:42 AM
It's very interesting that it seems satisfactory to comment on pictures of electronics and not at all comment on the fact that the general quality of the smartphone antennas are very (maybee chokingly) bad. Why doesn't Apple pay some attention to this vital part of communications?

steve09090
May 13, 2013, 09:05 AM
It's very interesting that it seems satisfactory to comment on pictures of electronics and not at all comment on the fact that the general quality of the smartphone antennas are very (maybee chokingly) bad. Why doesn't Apple pay some attention to this vital part of communications?

You're flat out wrong. They've spent $Millions on it and made genuine advances. So why is it always Apples fault when the Telco's (the ones responsible for sending the data in the first place) are the ones refusing to add more towers or develop better technology?

The Telco's are the one who are delivering the bandwidth (or not delivering it depending on who it is), and they are the ones who need to deliver. It's hard to catch a signal that's not there.

kimvette
May 16, 2013, 09:58 AM
Every time I see this it blows my mind how small they can make components now. Think back 20 years to cell phone antennae.

That's due to several reasons:

1. The wavelength of analog phones was much longer so a larger antenna was required in order to have sufficient gain

2. The transmitter on analog phones was usually 3 watts, and cell towers were few and far between. I used to have very spotty reception where I was and had to drive a couple miles to use my phone. I wasn't able to punt Verizon's land line until 1997 or 1998 when digital became available.

3. A large battery was required

Once the infrastructure was built up and TDMA (now GSM) was deployed, analog became less important so the analog transceiver power could be cut to under a watt, and antennae could be 1/8 or even 1/16 wave or not even ideally tuned since it was assumed that the user would be primarily using digital, and plans to sunset the analog network were in place (although it would take another decade to fully sunset analog).

permol
May 17, 2013, 04:35 AM
You're flat out wrong. They've spent $Millions on it and made genuine advances. So why is it always Apples fault when the Telco's (the ones responsible for sending the data in the first place) are the ones refusing to add more towers or develop better technology?

The Telco's are the one who are delivering the bandwidth (or not delivering it depending on who it is), and they are the ones who need to deliver. It's hard to catch a signal that's not there.

So facts are of no interest to you? Check independent evaluations and measurements of the phone-capabilities and see that actually I am correct in stating that the specific quality of the mobile-device's communication capabilities is decreasing. I specifically do not mention the operators network-stations, one reason being that it is not at all the subject of this thread and the other being that I don't have specific knowledge about this. But keep defending your beloved vendor as they might stop paying you if you don't.

otismotive77
Jun 1, 2013, 11:46 AM
hmmm...seems great. but, i don't expect much from the new iphone, some tweaks here and there and it's done.