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HiDeHo
May 14, 2013, 05:14 AM
Hi i have had a problem with apps taking longer to load than usual. I get the spinning wheel more often that before.

this bring up the question "are there any tweaks i can do or should i reinstall Mountain Lion 10.8.3?"

I am a fairly new mac user (around 9 months) so i don't know much about tweaking osx to keep it running its best yet, not liek i do with windows.

Here is some info that may help to sort this out
Specs


Device: Macbook Pro October 2011. (genuine refurbished purchased September 2012)
Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5
Memory: 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB
Software: OSX 10.8.3 (12D78)


Installed apps
apps most used

Chrome: main web browser
Adium: instant messaging app
Skype: chat and video chat
Spotify: music application
Music Manager: google music player and manager
Libreoffice: office suite similar to MS office
Picasa: photo manager and editor
Google Drive file sharing
dropbox: file sharing
dropbox encoore: 2nd dropbox account
boom: equaliser and volume booster
Caffeine: stops screensaver and sleep mode from starting
Sophos: Antivirus
vlc: video and music player
rEFInd: boot manager
Adobe Reader: adobe free pdf reader adn manager
IntelliType / IntelliPoint: Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse drivers

other apps installed

Firefox: web browser
opera: web browser
thunderbird: email and calendar application
uTorrent: Torrent downloader
Burn: Burn cd and dvd
DoubleTwist: music manager for android devices
img2icns: convert images to icon files
imagine: Photo manager
imedia Browser: standalone apple media browser
OpenLP: church music, powerpoint, sermon notes data projector manager
Prestol!: page manager application
skitch: screenshot tool
small dvd: turn images and video files into a dvd image.
Art2txt: make title images etc from txt
inkiscape: similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw, or Xara X
scribus: similar to publisher and pages
adapter: image, audio and video converter
HashDrop: create md5 checksum for apps files etc
Homebrew: package manager for osx (hardly use)
Homebrew Gui: Graphical user interface for Homebrew
Virtualbox (Vbox): install and run other operating systems in osx
xCode: developer tools for osx (required for some apps to run
AppCleaner: uninstall apps and userfiles for apps that dont have an uninstaller
Blackmagic: speed test tool for osx
Microsoft Silverlight: for websites that use silverlight instead of flash
the unArchiver: compress and uncompress archive and zip files
xQuartz: needed for some applications to run
CrossOver: install and run windows applications in osx
e-Sword: bible app (needs CrossOver to run)
partition inspector: used to diagnose problems with rEFIt, rEFInd and linux os
Flip Player: play microsoft video and music formats that other apps may not be able to

login items

google drive
dropbox
Caffeine
boom
Microsoft Keyboard Helper
Microsoft Mouse Helper
Music Manager

General setup
i run 7 desktops for different types of applications

Desktop 1: web browsers
Desktop 2: messaging (adium, skype etc)
Desktop 3: office apps (Libreoffice, pages etc)
Desktop 4: Music and video apps (itunes, vlc etc)
Desktop 5: Photo video managers (picasa, small dvd, imedia, iphoto etc)
Desktop 6: garageband, imovie
Desktop 7: Apple system apps (system preferences, Calendar, App Store etc)

I am not sure if any apps or my setup may be causing things to play up now.
if there is anything you can recommend I do it would be helpful.

As always Thanks again in advance for any tips, tricks, and ideas you may provide below.



simsaladimbamba
May 14, 2013, 05:26 AM
The spinning beach ball is often an indicator of not enough rum, thus open Activity Monitor and go to the System Memory* tab and look for Page Outs and Swap used and report back.
Using Activity Monitor to show you CPU and RAM usage
* Mac OS X: Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor (http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1342)

If you want to enhance the performance of your Mac, be sure to check these two articles, do not just use applications, that promise to do it for you.

Performance Tips For Mac OS X (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13817005&postcount=2)
Mac Performance Guide (http://www.reedcorner.net/mpg/)

Articles explaining why Mac OS X does not need maintenance software like CCleaner, MacKeeper or CleanMyMac:

Five Mac maintenance myths (http://www.macworld.com/article/133684/2008/06/maintenance_intro.html)
The myth of the dirty Mac (http://www.reedcorner.net/the-myth-of-the-dirty-mac/)

Macman45
May 14, 2013, 05:45 AM
Hi i have had a problem with apps taking longer to load than usual. I get the spinning wheel more often that before.

this bring up the question "are there any tweaks i can do or should i reinstall Mountain Lion 10.8.3?"

I am a fairly new mac user (around 9 months) so i don't know much about tweaking osx to keep it running its best yet, not liek i do with windows.

Here is some info that may help to sort this out
Specs


Installed apps


login items

General setup
i run 7 desktops for different types of applications

I am not sure if any apps or my setup may be causing things to play up now.
if there is anything you can recommend I do it would be helpful.

As always Thanks again in advance for any tips, tricks, and ideas you may provide below.



I'd add in some RAM...8GB should give you a substantial performance boost. I put 16GB in my 17" before I sold it, and it made a world of difference, no page outs, no beach balls.

benwiggy
May 14, 2013, 06:09 AM
this bring up the question "are there any tweaks i can do or should i reinstall Mountain Lion 10.8.3?"
The answer to the question "should I reinstall OS X?" is usually "No", unless you , or some process you authorised, have altered or deleted large numbers of system files. 99% of the files that the OS X installer installs are usually read-only, so they do not need to be replaced with identical copies.

Most problems occur in temp files, caches, preferences and configuration files.

I would certainly look at getting more RAM, which never hurts. Also -- a reboot every now and then will clean out some cobwebs.
After that, you can consider some troubleshooting steps. But the advice already given above is excellent.

Drew017
May 14, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hi i have had a problem with apps taking longer to load than usual. I get the spinning wheel more often that before.

this bring up the question "are there any tweaks i can do or should i reinstall Mountain Lion 10.8.3?"

I am a fairly new mac user (around 9 months) so i don't know much about tweaking osx to keep it running its best yet, not liek i do with windows.

Here is some info that may help to sort this out
Specs


Installed apps


login items

General setup
i run 7 desktops for different types of applications

I am not sure if any apps or my setup may be causing things to play up now.
if there is anything you can recommend I do it would be helpful.

As always Thanks again in advance for any tips, tricks, and ideas you may provide below.

Looking through your installed apps, you really don't need the antivirus app. Since you're using a Mac, you don't really need to worry about viruses.

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I'd recommend installing more RAM (at least 8 gigs maybe) and an SSD. With an SSD app startup time should be super fast and you will have more RAM to work with the many apps that you have :D

Also, what do you usually run at a time? If you've got too many apps open/ background processes etc this will really slow down your computer. From what I see, if you keep all those apps open on your MacBook Pro that you listed with your desktops, your going to experience lagging.

w0lf
May 14, 2013, 06:02 PM
If you seriously have 7 desktop spaces open with apps running in each of them then you most likely don't have enough ram with only 4GB. When you're opening a new app you're computer is probably having to swap out ram to your hdd and then when you go to use an app which has has it's memory swapped to the hdd it going to have to get swapped back into ram in exchange for something else and that's definitely going to slow things down a lot.

If you want things to start/run fast you'll probably want to:

1) Upgrade to 8 or even 16gb of ram (16gb probably wouldn't be needed but would add a little future proofing if you plan on keeping the computer for a while).

2) Get an SSD if you don't have one already.


Also just a few other things:

Do you really need 4 web browsers?

Have you tried transmission instead of utorrent? It's a mac native torrent client, it's free, it doesn't have ads or any of that junk, and it also fits the mac feel quite a bit better IMO.

As someone else mentioned you probably don't need the anti-virus tool.

Mr. Retrofire
May 14, 2013, 06:48 PM
The spinning beach ball is often an indicator of not enough rum, thus open...
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rum

Warning: The combination of beach balls, the sun and rum is deadly!

simsaladimbamba
May 14, 2013, 06:51 PM
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rum

Warning: The combination of beach balls, the sun and rum is deadly!

Thanks for the laugh. ;)

HiDeHo
May 15, 2013, 02:40 AM
Hi all thanks for the tips and tricks so far.
just to clarify. i dont have all the apps running in every desktop. mainly just

chrome browser
adium
itunes.
and then other apps as i need to use them.

Although the suggestion of more ram, and ssd is a good one that cost money. and for me I dont have much income to afford to do that, along with other things in life. even though that may be the best option.

I guess i will have to watch what background processes i have and sop ones i don't need all the time.
such as google music manager, dropbox, google drive, etc. I will keep an eye out and see what i find.

at the moment there is not much running at all and that is with my general 3 apps os it looks good atm. i will keep an eye out.