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jimthorn
Jun 1, 2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Yeah, their output is incredible.

At least we'll pass Team MacAddict the same day as they pass us. ;)

Yikes! I don't think we're gonna make it.



Rower_CPU
Jun 1, 2003, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by jimthorn
Yikes! I don't think we're gonna make it.

Actually, according to this page (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overview.php?TeamID=3446), we'll pass MacAddict on Monday and then get passed by General [M]ayhem on Tuesday. :)

Mr. Anderson
Jun 1, 2003, 01:17 AM
Well, that was all thanks to our 4700+ day - now if we can do that again......:D

Still, even with the few teams catching up, we're still passing others. We'll end up ok in a few months.

Now, if that AppleMega team ever gets together....

D

maradong
Jun 1, 2003, 07:09 AM
hm, do you think folding will allow the teems to "collapse " to a unique one?
dunno ...

MrMacMan
Jun 1, 2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by maradong
hm, do you think folding will allow the teems to "collapse " to a unique one?
dunno ...

I don't think so...

jimthorn
Jun 1, 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Actually, according to this page (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overview.php?TeamID=3446), we'll pass MacAddict on Monday and then get passed by General [M]ayhem on Tuesday. :)

That's a really cool page. I hadn't seen it before. Thanks.

Rower_CPU
Jun 1, 2003, 02:17 PM
bertman, looks like those P4s are kicking in. You're actually going to pass me eventually. :eek: :)

pEZ
Jun 1, 2003, 02:42 PM
4000+ looks like a possibility again today, too. Keep up the foldin'!

MrMacMan
Jun 1, 2003, 06:32 PM
I think we have passed the 4k for today again, keep it up and general mayhem might take much longer. :)

Rower_CPU
Jun 2, 2003, 02:20 AM
If we get over 4000 again the next two days (6/02), we'll crack 30k points for the past 7 days. :eek: :D

Good job, team. Keep it up! :)

MacBandit
Jun 2, 2003, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
If we get over 4000 again the next two days (6/02), we'll crack 30k points for the past 7 days. :eek: :D

Good job, team. Keep it up! :)

I'm going to hit 500 probably tomorrow. Not bad for 3 weeks work on one computer. I've been pushing my girlfriend to get her laptop I want to start folding on it too. Also I might get my B/W G3 back from my dad since he's not using it and fold on it too.

Mr. Anderson
Jun 2, 2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
If we get over 4000 again the next two days (6/02), we'll crack 30k points for the past 7 days. :eek: :D

Good job, team. Keep it up! :)

We're on course for another 4k point day again today!!

And in the extreme stats page, we've got a current 7 day total at 29k!!! Oooh, its so close - way to go!

D

pimentoLoaf
Jun 2, 2003, 12:45 PM
100 !!! (http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?name=ef2000_typhoon)

Rower_CPU
Jun 2, 2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
100 !!! (http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?name=ef2000_typhoon)

Congrats! Nice milestone. :)

pEZ
Jun 2, 2003, 05:04 PM
Congrats guys, we finally passed MacAddict after many months of folding. Only one more Mac team before we're at the top of the bunch...

ryanmil1
Jun 2, 2003, 05:23 PM
I've grown up as a mac kid...but for Engineering in college I had to get a PC. I have a 2.26ghz P4 though. If it isn't to sac-religious I can add it into the group until I get home and can get my screaming 400 mhz Imac on the case

MrMacMan
Jun 2, 2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by ryanmil1
I've grown up as a mac kid...but for Engineering in college I had to get a PC. I have a 2.26ghz P4 though. If it isn't to sac-religious I can add it into the group until I get home and can get my screaming 400 mhz Imac on the case

We have said in the past, PC's are fine, as long as you 'heart' belongs on a mac. :o ;)

Welcome to the team :D

Tiauguinho
Jun 2, 2003, 05:44 PM
Im so amazed with our result! Really guys! Congrats to all of you!

pimentoLoaf
Jun 2, 2003, 06:49 PM
Right now (thinking different-ly) I'm crunching a Genome@Home number on my PC and was wondering if it would contribute to MRfah in any way?

My ol' 366mhz required a couple of days to do GaH data, but now it takes only a few hours (for 30 sequences) on a 2.4ghz system.

Don't recall ever doing a GaH value on a Mac, though.

MrMacMan
Jun 2, 2003, 09:41 PM
Comeon guys lets hole General Mayhem off a little longer. :)

pEZ
Jun 2, 2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Comeon guys lets hole General Mayhem off a little longer. :)

Meh, why delay the inevitable. It's going to happen sooner or later (at least until we form the Ultimac Team).

MrMacMan
Jun 2, 2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by pEZ
Meh, why delay the inevitable. It's going to happen sooner or later (at least until we form the Ultimac Team).

Because then we can move up more positions, like passing MacOsX Team. :o

Yes, go Ultimate Team.

MacBandit
Jun 2, 2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by pEZ
Meh, why delay the inevitable. It's going to happen sooner or later (at least until we form the Ultimac Team).

If we were to push harder and openly inform people directly about how easy it is to setup and how it won't slow down there system etc. etc. it wouldn't be inevitable and we could easily trounce all the other teams.

There are so many members here that don't realize the ease of setup and how it won't affect there computer at all. I know I was one of them.

MrMacMan
Jun 2, 2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
If we were to push harder and openly inform people directly about how easy it is to setup and how it won't slow down there system etc. etc. it wouldn't be inevitable and we could easily trounce all the other teams.

There are so many members here that don't realize the ease of setup and how it won't affect there computer at all. I know I was one of them.

Maybe we can put it in the FAQ?

Or maybe Home Page it again?

Or maybe increase size of profile links?

Comeone people think, my brain is fried!

Vlade
Jun 2, 2003, 10:30 PM
Im finally half way done with a WU, but it is taking forever! Is there a way I can tell how big a WU is and how many points its worth? My current one is p543_BBA5_ext .

Starting on friday I can get alot done because summer vacation starts :)

MacBandit
Jun 2, 2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Vlade
Im finally half way done with a WU, but it is taking forever! Is there a way I can tell how big a WU is and how many points its worth? My current one is p543_BBA5_ext .

Starting on friday I can get alot done because summer vacation starts :)

Sure what you are looking for is stats at the Stanford Folding website. You then want to go to project summary. Your project number is 543. Here's a link to the page.

http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

It looks like it's a 33 point Gromacs with a deadline of 15 days.

MacBandit
Jun 2, 2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Maybe we can put it in the FAQ?

Or maybe Home Page it again?

Or maybe increase size of profile links?

Comeone people think, my brain is fried!


I think we need to be even more upfront about it. A small flashing banner ad on all the forums and the front page of the main site. The banner should link to a small faq explaining what it is and what they are helping doing (i.e. finding a cure for Alzheimer's etc..). Then there should be a link to the install scripts from there with a short readme that downloads with the scripts to explain step by step the short installation.

Rower_CPU
Jun 2, 2003, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
I think we need to be even more upfront about it. A small flashing banner ad on all the forums and the front page of the main site. The banner should link to a small faq explaining what it is and what they are helping doing (i.e. finding a cure for Alzheimer's etc..). Then there should be a link to the install scripts from there with a short readme that downloads with the scripts to explain step by step the short installation.

What you're talking about sounds more like what MacAddict does. They can't expect to take over the whole forums/site, so they use a separate one here (http://macaddict4life.tjprevite.org/).

MacBandit
Jun 2, 2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
What you're talking about sounds more like what MacAddict does. They can't expect to take over the whole forums/site, so they use a separate one here (http://macaddict4life.tjprevite.org/).

I don't really want to take over the whole site. More of a small banner ad in the corner of each main forum page and the main home page that links to another page or a closed forum for the folding information and updates.

mc68k
Jun 2, 2003, 10:58 PM
i recruited a DP 1.4GHz at CompUSA today

the iMac 1GHz has been steadily folding, thanks to the crontab entry, for a few weeks now at that same store

ive been getting some more library machines since i have to walk across campus for summer school. might as well stop by and start them up every day, since those machines remove startup items.

MacBandit
Jun 2, 2003, 11:02 PM
I wish we had a few big stores around here that had a Macs. All we have with computers is Circuit City and Office Depot. The only place in town for Macs is 'The Computer Store' a NW chain of Apple resellers.

I should have setup the Apples at the University of Oregon bookstore when I was there the other day. Maybe I'll go back. I just have to memorize the Crontab bit. I was left alone there long enough the other day I could have gotten 4 laptops and a PowerMac. I don't think I'll do the school computers. For one I don't go to the schools anymore and two I know the guy that runs the computers at the one school locally and I wouldn't want it coming back to me. He would figure it out.

pEZ
Jun 2, 2003, 11:30 PM
Hey guys, if my calculations are correct, we need only 3,554.13 points tomorrow to break 30,000 in a seven-day stretch. In my book, that's as good as done. Great work guys!

MrMacMan
Jun 3, 2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by pEZ
Hey guys, if my calculations are correct, we need only 3,554.13 points tomorrow to break 30,000 in a seven-day stretch. In my book, that's as good as done. Great work guys!

Nice!

Stelliform
Jun 3, 2003, 12:33 AM
Good job guys! BTW I finally got my Altivec enabled core downloaded. Can't wait to see if I get a point boost!

MrMacMan
Jun 3, 2003, 07:18 AM
*sigh*
General Mayhem has moved pass us.

Good News we passed 30k.

Stelliform
Jun 3, 2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
*sigh*
General Mayhem has moved pass us.

Good News we passed 30k.

Well we saw that coming for months.... Well you were the first to point it out...

Originally posted by MrMacmanon 4-1-03 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22917&perpage=25&pagenumber=4)

Also: Watch out for:
General [M]ayhem, they have been creeping on the stats around our production for a while but finally ourproduced us and are currently set to beat us in 2016, well I expect maybe in a year or 2 we might see then near us in stats.

They rose up very quickly, we can hope that the lose steam just as fast. ;)

Falleron
Jun 3, 2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Vlade
Im finally half way done with a WU, but it is taking forever! Is there a way I can tell how big a WU is and how many points its worth? My current one is p543_BBA5_ext .

Starting on friday I can get alot done because summer vacation starts :)
p543_BBA5_ext = 33 points.

Here is the page: http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

MacBandit
Jun 3, 2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Falleron
p543_BBA5_ext = 33 points.

Here is the page: http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

Hmm people just can't seem to help themselve around me am I that much fun to duplicate?:p

First post at the top of this page.

Rower_CPU
Jun 3, 2003, 01:25 PM
I'd like to echo what MrMacman said earlier about us passing 30k a week. Not only have we reached that goal, we've surpassed it. Truly awesome! :D

MacBandit
Jun 3, 2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I'd like to echo what MrMacman said earlier about us passing 30k a week. Not only have we reached that goal, we've surpassed it. Truly awesome! :D

Next stop 35,000. Let's keep this train'u'moovin!!!

Mr. Anderson
Jun 3, 2003, 01:35 PM
Ha, well we were 28th for a short moment - but we'll be back again.

And a little looking into where this extra umph is coming from and it seems as though mc68k has been upping his output significantly. The past seven days we've done 7 days of 4k+ and the past 7 days he's done 1k+. He's a quarter of our output - you guys get some new machines or another lab open up?!?!

D

mc68k
Jun 3, 2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
He's a quarter of our output - you guys get some new machines or another lab open up?!?!i haven't added enough to warrant the increase i've been getting. i would attribute the increase to less students in the labs (absolutely 24/7 folding) and the gromacs core/proteins.

i've seen it increase from ~5000 to ~8500/day in a short amount of time. the only machines ive added are a few P4s, an iMac and a DP 1.4 MDD. the majority of my machines are PCs, which seem to fold faster with the gromacs proteins.

keep an eye on bertmans output...i expect that to go up a few thousand in the next couple of weeks as well.

bertinman
Jun 3, 2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by mc68k
keep an eye on bertmans output...i expect that to go up a few thousand in the next couple of weeks as well.

not as fast as you are going...sheesh, and I'm suppose to be a rocket scientist--you are really flying!

I got 10 of the new machines out and running last night--10 more to go. I'm in the last week before finals and both weeks will be killer on both me and the computers. I'll be loosing 8 athlons though when I bring in the next ten... sad but has to happen.

I'm glad I can help as much as I do :).

side note, the last couple of days have been great for me only because of one computer, a 3.06G P4 with hyperthreading... the thing has really helped me by turning out 14 WU's in the last week even though I've been using it for a few lan parties ;).

oh yeah, I'll be expanding my work to another department this summer, maybe they'll have some helpers there too :D.

- bert

MrMacMan
Jun 3, 2003, 05:29 PM
Wow, that is a Nice increase mc68k!

I guess no one using the lab means ~ Ton o' points? :)

You have spiked and are staying up there :-D

MacBandit
Jun 3, 2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by bertinman
not as fast as you are going...sheesh, and I'm suppose to be a rocket scientist--you are really flying!

I got 10 of the new machines out and running last night--10 more to go. I'm in the last week before finals and both weeks will be killer on both me and the computers. I'll be loosing 8 athlons though when I bring in the next ten... sad but has to happen.

I'm glad I can help as much as I do :).

side note, the last couple of days have been great for me only because of one computer, a 3.06G P4 with hyperthreading... the thing has really helped me by turning out 14 WU's in the last week even though I've been using it for a few lan parties ;).

oh yeah, I'll be expanding my work to another department this summer, maybe they'll have some helpers there too :D.

- bert

Hey what are they doing with those old PCs? I could really use an old PC if anyone knows where they're getting rid of some. I just need it to interface with my GPS and upload maps to it.

MrMacMan
Jun 3, 2003, 06:02 PM
Yeah, where are those old ones going?

Just don't dump them!

Heck I can use some old comps.

bertinman
Jun 3, 2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Yeah, where are those old ones going?

Just don't dump them!

Heck I can use some old comps.

how many times I've heard this, I can't remember...

They are just going down the hall to another lab.

With the california school budget distruction we only got new machines because we made a deal with a few people who needed newer machines (they were using PII 180's). They get our not-so-old Athlons while we get the money they were gunna have to buy alot of computers for cheap. We hand picked the parts so each machine was about $400--saved on monitors (used the old ones) and a few other things we already had, like windows licenses.

I'm going to see if I can keep folding running on the machines in the new lab, but I'm not sure if it could happen.

- bert

MrMacMan
Jun 3, 2003, 08:43 PM
Damn! :(

Oh well a faster processor is always good.

bertinman
Jun 3, 2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Damn! :(

Oh well a faster processor is always good.

true, but as the machines I'm loosing were made by gateway (the machines we got from them always seemed to be alittle "off") and rarely worked as fast as other similarly spec'ed comps, I'm not feeling to much of a lose ;P

- bert

MrMacMan
Jun 3, 2003, 09:42 PM
Ah, I wanted to know if you owned them or not, I wanted to play like 5 year old PC games... :rolleyes:

Go C&C...



Original!:p

bertinman
Jun 3, 2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Ah, I wanted to know if you owned them or not, I wanted to play like 5 year old PC games... :rolleyes:

Go C&C...



Original!:p

wow... is all I can say to owning all these comps.

no need for a summer job for me...mmm, ebay :D

I work as a sys admin for UC Davis. I think most people who have the huge crunching numbers probably are in similar situations as me.

Plus I'm a sterotipical "works on/fixes PC's, USES a mac" switcher :)

- bert

mc68k
Jun 3, 2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by bertinman
I work as a sys admin for UC Davis.ah i'm a tech at SDSU

it rocks getting points from machines you get paid to maintain. :)

bertinman
Jun 4, 2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by mc68k
ah i'm a tech at SDSU

it rocks getting points from machines you get paid to maintain. :)

truely :)

Rower_CPU
Jun 4, 2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by mc68k
ah i'm a tech at SDSU

it rocks getting points from machines you get paid to maintain. :)

And even better when your boss lets you take the points. ;)

MrMacMan
Jun 4, 2003, 05:49 PM
Cool, we plateau'ed that looks like a nice number to stay constant at. :D

Vlade
Jun 4, 2003, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Sure what you are looking for is stats at the Stanford Folding website. You then want to go to project summary. Your project number is 543. Here's a link to the page.

http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

It looks like it's a 33 point Gromacs with a deadline of 15 days.

AH! 3 days left... I better leave my comp on overnight a few days!

MacBandit
Jun 4, 2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Vlade
AH! 3 days left... I better leave my comp on overnight a few days!

Not to brag or anything but those 33 point gromacs take my Dual/GHz/DDR Powermac about a 24 to 36 hours each to do.

Vlade
Jun 4, 2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Not to brag or anything but those 33 point gromacs take my Dual/GHz/DDR Powermac about a 24 to 36 hours each to do.

Ok I didn't realize it goes that fast, I only leave my on during the day while im playing MP3s and surfing the web.

mj_1903
Jun 4, 2003, 09:50 PM
Looking to do a switch with someone.

I have a P4 3.0ghz currently crunching dnetc and as you know its slightly inefficient for that. If anyone wants to do a switch...the P4 running folding in their name and a powermac of some sort running dnetc for me, give me a yell.

I am not sure what would be equal, but probably something around Dual 800.

Here is my e-mail address:

mj_1903 at mac dot com

Thanks,

Mat

MrMacMan
Jun 4, 2003, 11:44 PM
Folding...
Has....
Crashed...
http://www.statsman.org/folding2stats/html/index_rate.gif

Statsman -- 419,393.04
Offical -- 419393
Extreme overClock - 419393.03

Folding has... er stoped?

This was the same for all of them, a SUDDEN stop is everything...
http://teamstats.macnn.com/fold/includes/Outfiles/fold_3446_Graph_ttmp9734869_srBig.png

Umm... I'm gonna search there forums now...

Rower_CPU
Jun 4, 2003, 11:50 PM
Ouch. Now that's quite a halt. Let's see what happens at the next check point...

pEZ
Jun 4, 2003, 11:52 PM
Jeez, what the hell happened?

*SCREEECH*

Woah, there! Don't y'all be foldin' so fast now, hear?

MacBandit
Jun 5, 2003, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Vlade
Ok I didn't realize it goes that fast, I only leave my on during the day while im playing MP3s and surfing the web.

You would be amazed at how much more progress you will get at night. Also I log out and leave it at the login screen. That seems to speed things up a bit too. I get probably 1.5x as much work done in the time at night then I get during the entire day.

Rower_CPU
Jun 5, 2003, 12:24 PM
Looks like things are up and running again. :)

Hiccups like that always mess up the stats for a while, but we're still on track to pass Mac OS X by the end of the month.

MacBandit
Jun 5, 2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Looks like things are up and running again. :)

Hiccups like that always mess up the stats for a while, but we're still on track to pass Mac OS X by the end of the month.

Looks like everything was backlogged or cached durring that time as there was a huge huge spike of data right after the dip.

MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 05:50 PM
Yeah well stasts man says we are under 30k for week while overclockers says we are 90 points over that goal...

hmmmmpphh..

Rower_CPU
Jun 5, 2003, 09:13 PM
The Folding Extreme Page (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overview.php?TeamID=3446) seems to be really choked on the server hiccup.

The graph still hasn't updated since yesterday, and the 3 hours check points are missing certain times, too.

MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 09:17 PM
Yes well this being their first 'data not appearing' since their service began I guess they need to work out that glitch/bug.

And standford needs to work out that their stats sending servers blow.

pimentoLoaf
Jun 9, 2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Right now (thinking different-ly) I'm crunching a Genome@Home number on my PC and was wondering if it would contribute to MRfah in any way?

Just did a li'l check and found this (http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/projectpage?q=799).

That is, ALL ol' fashioned Genome@Home data is lumped under Project 799.

MrMacMan
Jun 10, 2003, 06:00 PM
Wow... ABIT is baaaccckkk... what the hell is this...

Stupid company!

31k a weeks is decent keep it up.

pEZ
Jun 10, 2003, 06:32 PM
Wow guys, we've broken 5,100 for today and It's only 5:30 CDT. Can we make it to 5,500?

jimthorn
Jun 10, 2003, 08:02 PM
According to folding.extremeoverclocking.com, we're already at 5900 for today. I don't know how we spiked so much, but I'm not complaining.

MrMacMan
Jun 10, 2003, 08:04 PM
Yeah, wow guys... Nice spike... ;)

pEZ
Jun 10, 2003, 08:20 PM
A 6K day? Wow.

pEZ
Jun 11, 2003, 01:22 AM
6,723.52 points. Is that a MacRumors record? And we already have over 1500 points started for the next round. Did someone give the folding team a ton of guarana and caffeine?

Gonna finish my 50 pointer tomorrow too...

MrMacMan
Jun 11, 2003, 07:10 AM
I think so... even when the servers went down and back up we didnt spike THAT much!!! :eek:

VERY NICE! :D :D

mc68k
Jun 11, 2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by pEZ
6,723.52 points. Is that a MacRumors record?i would say so. i remember when we used to put that out in a week.

MrMacMan
Jun 11, 2003, 05:26 PM
Yea guys, who added another lab without even posting? ;) :rolleyes:

That was quite a jump but everything else in comparison is going to be really small...

Rower_CPU
Jun 11, 2003, 05:43 PM
Looks like Zeke has really jumped on production. So what's your secret Z-man? ;)

pEZ
Jun 11, 2003, 05:55 PM
At first, a 35k week sounded impossible - now it's not looking so tough....

evoluzione
Jun 11, 2003, 06:00 PM
i really have no idea about all this folding stuff, sounds interesting but i have no clue what you guys are talking about most of the time. anyways, i ony started on this about a month ago, and i'm well happy to see that i have now climbed up to 60th place! :D i'm happy with that! hehe. should have a new 970 to run with when they come out too, maybe a couple :)

MrMacMan
Jun 11, 2003, 06:40 PM
Bah evoluzione

You blew me away...

One comp can't hold up to that...

pimentoLoaf
Jun 11, 2003, 10:23 PM
I now have the Terminal client going in the background, but it's a bummer to watch it take so long on my antiquated 500mhz iBook. Still, it's faster than the graphical variant, so I'll post how long it takes me to get through the p677_TZ2_EXT_342K data unit it's currently whacking.

MrMacMan
Jun 11, 2003, 10:55 PM
There is nothing special about that unit...

It is a normal unit, 19.7 Points...

I guess you didn't have the iBook running Folding before?

Rower_CPU
Jun 11, 2003, 11:08 PM
Amazing work, team. :)

pimentoLoaf
Jun 11, 2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
...I guess you didn't have the iBook running Folding before?

I didn't make that clear? Had the graphical client going. Didn't know what format was fastest, so I chose "alpha" (whatever that was).

Seems to be taking around 20 minutes a frame.

MrMacMan
Jun 11, 2003, 11:57 PM
Ah sorry about that, it seemed to me that because the Graphical Client is slow that you got the Command, not that you went from
Graphical ---> Command line.

Sorry bout that...

35 k?
Wow! :D

jimthorn
Jun 12, 2003, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
I now have the Terminal client going in the background, but it's a bummer to watch it take so long on my antiquated 500mhz iBook. Still, it's faster than the graphical variant

I'm running the graphical client, usually Hidden and just sitting in the Dock. Is the Terminal client much faster, and if so, how much?

MrMacMan
Jun 12, 2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by jimthorn
I'm running the graphical client, usually Hidden and just sitting in the Dock. Is the Terminal client much faster, and if so, how much? The terminal client is slightly faster because, well the graphics aren't shown, for whatever reason when it rotates it uses 3-6% CPU for a quick time, the terminal is faster this way.

jimthorn
Jun 12, 2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
The terminal client is slightly faster because, well the graphics aren't shown, for whatever reason when it rotates it uses 3-6% CPU for a quick time, the terminal is faster this way.

Thanks, I'll try it.

mc68k
Jun 12, 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by jimthorn
I'm running the graphical client, usually Hidden and just sitting in the Dock. Is the Terminal client much faster, and if so, how much? i like it bc it's more transparent, can run behind login windows, and across user accounts. gui is much more limited.

bertinman
Jun 13, 2003, 06:04 PM
gah.. I've been scratching my head for awhile on why my points arn't going any higher... and yesterday I finally found out why. two reasons...

1) a friend of mine was doing me a favor and turning off all the machines every night :) --> asked him nicely not to :)

2) the newest machines arn't even folding! the permissions on the folding folder are set to Read Only for users... which meant that when I logged on as admin it was on but otherwise no. --> I'll be fixing this on Monday after my B-Day :)

hope to break a five thousand a week by friday so I can be RED on the OCing site ;).

- bert

Vlade
Jun 13, 2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by bertinman
gah.. I've been scratching my head for awhile on why my points arn't going any higher... and yesterday I finally found out why. two reasons...

1) a friend of mine was doing me a favor and turning off all the machines every night :) --> asked him nicely not to :)

2) the newest machines arn't even folding! the permissions on the folding folder are set to Read Only for users... which meant that when I logged on as admin it was on but otherwise no. --> I'll be fixing this on Monday after my B-Day :)

hope to break a five thousand a week by friday so I can be RED on the OCing site ;).

- bert

Cool :), I really want to take over team Mac OS X

pimentoLoaf
Jun 16, 2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by evoluzione
i really have no idea about all this folding stuff, sounds interesting but i have no clue what you guys are talking about most of the time...

Proteins are long strings of DNA that over a period of nanoseconds to microseconds clump (or fold) into complicated 3d shapes. These shapes form cellular tissue.

Folding can be figured through experimentation, but these calculations do it mathematically. And it takes tremendous amount of processing power.

mc68k
Jun 16, 2003, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Proteins are long strings of DNA that over a period of nanoseconds to microseconds clump (or fold) into complicated 3d shapes.well not exactly.

DNA -> RNA -> protein

proteins are made of amino acids on the most basic level, not nuclear material.

bertinman
Jun 19, 2003, 09:12 AM
i don't usually brag, but I'm pretty happy about this.

I'm making over 5k a week, and I'm red on the OCing stats page! :D

I might be getting some more comps under my belt soon too, I'm starting a new job doing IT on the floor above and below me. :)

I think we are all doing great!

- bert

MrMacMan
Jun 19, 2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by bertinman
i don't usually brag, but I'm pretty happy about this.

I'm making over 5k a week, and I'm red on the OCing stats page! :D

I might be getting some more comps under my belt soon too, I'm starting a new job doing IT on the floor above and below me. :)

I think we are all doing great!

- bert

Nice, good job.

bastard ; )

britboy
Jun 19, 2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by bertinman
i don't usually brag, but I'm pretty happy about this.

I'm making over 5k a week, and I'm red on the OCing stats page! :D

I might be getting some more comps under my belt soon too, I'm starting a new job doing IT on the floor above and below me. :)

I think we are all doing great!

- bert


.....and I was happy because i temporarily made it to green on the OC site :rolleyes:

Are you challenging mc68k for top spot? Your daily output is higher than his at the moment :eek:

Rower_CPU
Jun 19, 2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by britboy
.....and I was happy because i temporarily made it to green on the OC site :rolleyes:

Are you challenging mc68k for top spot? Your daily output is higher than his at the moment :eek:

That would be a very slooooooow takeover right now. With 100,000 points difference it will take a while. I'm actually his next target. getting passed sometime in September, maybe.

bertinman
Jun 20, 2003, 05:51 PM
I think I just got a spike, I don't think I'll challenge mc68k. I do hope to be in the same class as him. The more people who see more large crunchers the more inclined to want to join and help out the team :).

- bert

Falleron
Jun 20, 2003, 06:24 PM
What we need is a large lab of dual 2ghz 970's running 24/7!!

MrMacMan
Jun 21, 2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Falleron
What we need is a large lab of dual 2ghz 970's running 24/7!!

Don't we all ? :p

pimentoLoaf
Jun 24, 2003, 09:10 AM
Dunno...

Seeing the stats rise to the stratosphere after August (http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/) just wouldn't be fair to all those still running F@h on their 300mhz PC's...

:(

pEZ
Jun 24, 2003, 12:10 PM
<sarcasm>

Oh, but wait, you're forgetting that a 2 GHz G5 machine MUST be slower than a 3 GHz Athlon machine just because the numbers are smaller....

</sarcasm>

AppleMatt
Jun 24, 2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by teabgs
we really need to get the people that are not active save the one time they ran folding to keep going. Then we'd really have some numbers!

OK I'm going to start again with folding. I had an old account with only a few points but that run the graphical client, and it was before I knew MacRumors had a team.

So I'm adding
- G3 333MHz folding 24hrs/day
- PowerBook G4 folding when on power supply.

I'm not going to add the PC's because they are running United Devices at the moment.

Is there a way to download a lot of work-units (I think the answer is going to be no) reason being the G3 isn't on the network so needs to be hooked up everytime a WU finishes.

I'm new to the team, so be nice :)

AppleMatt

edit: It's not working properly. I downloaded the text client but it's using my old account. I have changed the account details in the Graphical client (new name and team number). Will this work?

MrMacMan
Jun 25, 2003, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by AppleMatt
OK I'm going to start again with folding. I had an old account with only a few points but that run the graphical client, and it was before I knew MacRumors had a team.

So I'm adding
- G3 333MHz folding 24hrs/day
- PowerBook G4 folding when on power supply.

I'm not going to add the PC's because they are running United Devices at the moment.

Is there a way to download a lot of work-units (I think the answer is going to be no) reason being the G3 isn't on the network so needs to be hooked up everytime a WU finishes.

I'm new to the team, so be nice :)

AppleMatt

edit: It's not working properly. I downloaded the text client but it's using my old account. I have changed the account details in the Graphical client (new name and team number). Will this work?

The answer is un-fortunally no.

And why don't you get mc68k's scripts?

They seem to work for me... execpt that it doesn't auto-load on reboot. (Gotta get on that man, we have told you about that... :rolleyes: )

bertinman
Jun 25, 2003, 01:20 AM
not sure if its in the FAQ, but

to change the username and team I think you put a -config after the executable.

just checked... Im right

type in

./OSX-3.25 -config

and it should show you your old username and team and let you change them.

- bert

MacBandit
Jun 25, 2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
The answer is un-fortunally no.

And why don't you get mc68k's scripts?

They seem to work for me... execpt that it doesn't auto-load on reboot. (Gotta get on that man, we have told you about that... :rolleyes: )

Really? I never had a problem with it not reloading have reboot.

MrMacMan
Jun 25, 2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Really? I never had a problem with it not reloading have reboot.

If I remember correctly you have a Dual processor machine, I have a single, I rememember someone else with the 'no load on boot' issue.

I forget the command to see boot on load-up, but atleast I have to do it over sometime.

MrMacMan
Jun 29, 2003, 06:23 PM
mc68k and Rower why the drop in power?

Also even bertman is dropping... :confused:

mc68k
Jun 29, 2003, 08:33 PM
it's a trend among all teams, check the top 4 for a comparison

MrMacMan
Jun 29, 2003, 09:53 PM
I didn't say out team (witch has dropped in power a little) I said you guys specifically, while others seem to be still gaining...

britboy
Jun 30, 2003, 06:06 AM
Just out of interest, what's happened to our team membership within the past week? We seem to have added about 30-odd new members. With a bit of luck, this will help up to break that 50k a week barrier!

AppleMatt
Jun 30, 2003, 06:09 AM
Well I've only just joined, and as soon as my AE base station arrives I'll have a G3 folding 24/7 and my G4 PowerBook when I'm on charger. But I don't know where everyone else came from suddenly, maybe because it was on front page?

Every little helps!

AppleMatt

bertinman
Jun 30, 2003, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
mc68k and Rower why the drop in power?

Also even bertman is dropping... :confused:

I have no clue... Im going to check it out today hopfully.

been happening for over a week... and I even ADDED computers on friday.

- bert

britboy
Jun 30, 2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by AppleMatt
But I don't know where everyone else came from suddenly, maybe because it was on front page?
AppleMatt


Heh. I rarely check out the front page, so i never saw that. Good on arn for putting it there. We need all the members we can get, especially if our top folders are dropping off.

Mr. Anderson
Jun 30, 2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by britboy
Heh. I rarely check out the front page, so i never saw that. Good on arn for putting it there. We need all the members we can get, especially if our top folders are dropping off.

Well, since I've been keeping track of it - we seem to be getting quite a few new members, but the active members are still staying around a little over 100. I started watching this when we have 320 or so members. Now we have over 400 and we've not retained any more.

I think that would be the thing to work on as well.

D

mc68k
Jun 30, 2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
I didn't say out team (witch has dropped in power a little) I said you guys specifically, while others seem to be still gaining... i wouldnt worry about it, all of our machines are running, plus like 6 more p4 2.2s i added today

theyll come around

MrMacMan
Jun 30, 2003, 12:52 PM
Great everyone we added a ton of members, now can we retain them like Mr Anderson pointed out?

Lets hope.

mc68k, very good to hear.

jimthorn
Jun 30, 2003, 01:21 PM
The fluctuations you're seeing in the stats may be a problem with the stats server at Stanford. It's been acting weird the last couple of days. Often, when I check my stats or the team stats, Stanford's server just brings up the message "Can't connect to the stats database".

Today, we're looking pretty good on extremeoverclocking's site. Should be back over 7K for the day.

bertinman
Jun 30, 2003, 06:19 PM
well, all my comps are on and running... but ive only made 9 or so points in the last 9 hours.

very wierd, and depressing. I WAS on target to pass Rower this month, maybe next month when i get this all sorted out ;).

- bert

Mr. Anderson
Jul 1, 2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by bertinman
well, all my comps are on and running... but ive only made 9 or so points in the last 9 hours.


have you figured out what's going on? This seems so strange.....

Also - we've got 48k points now, so maybe by the end of today or tomorrow we might end up over 50k......and when all these new members start producing, well, we might even be able to go farther.

D

MrMacMan
Jul 1, 2003, 01:53 PM
Yes, keep pushing 'Ni!' Back!
:p


hehe, everything helps.

jimthorn
Jul 1, 2003, 02:03 PM
:eek: Whoa!

Those new members are giving us quite a boost! Looks like we're gonna blow away our previous record day and almost certainly hit 50K for the week! Woo-hoo!

bertinman
Jul 1, 2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
have you figured out what's going on? This seems so strange.....

Also - we've got 48k points now, so maybe by the end of today or tomorrow we might end up over 50k......and when all these new members start producing, well, we might even be able to go farther.

D

found the problem, the building was converted to 100Mbit wall connections from 10Mbits. Most comps didn't like the change without a reboot. Also, some of the network cables couldn't handle the faster speed... :(

should be back around 1k any day now.

- bert

Falleron
Jul 9, 2003, 04:32 PM
Just added another 500Mhz Pc. Not sure how much good that will be. Am using the console version. I guess every little bit helps.

pimentoLoaf
Jul 10, 2003, 10:35 PM
Perhaps I should fire up me ol' 366mhz PC? Have to find a way for the screen to stay up, what with both hinges broke an' all.

MacBandit
Jul 11, 2003, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Perhaps I should fire up me ol' 366mhz PC? Have to find a way for the screen to stay up, what with both hinges broke an' all.

Fold it open flat and use some double backed 3M body tape to tape it to a clipboard or something then hang it on a hook.

Falleron
Jul 11, 2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Fold it open flat and use some double backed 3M body tape to tape it to a clipboard or something then hang it on a hook.
I have an oportunity to take home about 5-10 older PC's that are being chucked out from where I work. They are a mixture of speeds ranging from 266Mhz to abou 500Mhz. Was thinking about grabbing some, not sure if its worth it though. Dont really have space to put many new computers at my place.

MacBandit
Jul 11, 2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Falleron
I have an oportunity to take home about 5-10 older PC's that are being chucked out from where I work. They are a mixture of speeds ranging from 266Mhz to abou 500Mhz. Was thinking about grabbing some, not sure if its worth it though. Dont really have space to put many new computers at my place.

How big are they? Are any of them desktops that lay down? I am looking for an old pc of any type really it just can't be too big. I need it so that I can run my GPS map loading software. Also do they have OS install discs that comes with them. I'll happily pay shipping for more then one of them if they meet the right criteria.

MrMacMan
Jul 13, 2003, 12:11 AM
Yeah man, just chop the cases down, throw out the useless parts... just place them in a closet or something... :)

*headless of coarse*

pimentoLoaf
Aug 18, 2003, 09:48 PM
I think they need to drop the time-limit for data units... I had crunched 95 of 100 steps in a Gromacs unit when the BLASTed thing (sorry about the pun) timed-out and the results were simply tossed for a new downloaded unit.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

MrMacMan
Aug 18, 2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
I think they need to drop the time-limit for data units... I had crunched 95 of 100 steps in a Gromacs unit when the BLASTed thing (sorry about the pun) timed-out and the results were simply tossed for a new downloaded unit.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Aren't they accepting half done units (meaning partially done) ?

I thought I heard that from someone.

Then you would get like 95% of the credit or something...

pEZ
Aug 20, 2003, 12:03 AM
Once someone gets a G5 set up with folding, let us know how much the speed is improved - I know it's all relative, but you can still speculate.

woodsey
Sep 3, 2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by pEZ
Once someone gets a G5 set up with folding, let us know how much the speed is improved - I know it's all relative, but you can still speculate.

I know if i had a G5 folding would be the first thing i would load!

only problem being, i dont have a G5 cos i dont have any money!

bousozoku
Sep 3, 2003, 11:40 PM
It wouldn't matter a whole lot since folding@home doesn't seem to work on G5s right now.

Powerbook G5
Sep 4, 2003, 12:05 AM
So does anything actually run on the G5s? I keep reading about this program and that program and yet another program doesn't work on the G5...that cannot be good!

Falleron
Sep 4, 2003, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by bousozoku
It wouldn't matter a whole lot since folding@home doesn't seem to work on G5s right now.
Thats not good!

MacBandit
Sep 4, 2003, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
So does anything actually run on the G5s? I keep reading about this program and that program and yet another program doesn't work on the G5...that cannot be good!

Well I think 10.2.7 is simply a patch to get the G5 to run something. Not everything, but something. 10.3 should be out within a month or less and I expect it to fix most everything so it works with the G5. Though as with 10.1->10.2 10.3 will probably break more programs then the G5 would by itself.

bousozoku
Sep 4, 2003, 09:11 AM
Anything that is AltiVec-enhanced has to be checked for certain functionality which was not implemented.

Judging from the number of those applications, it should be a fairly quick check.

With the Gromacs code, it may not be anything more than a re-compile but if they used certain things explicitly, there will be work involved. It could also be that the checked the internal processor number and did not recognise it.

Stanford's developer has stated that, with enough of a presence, they will make certain that folding@home runs on the G5 series. They're right--why pay a developer for quantities of 10?


Plenty of things run on the PPC970, including Photoshop 7, which is AltiVec-enhanced. It might just be a while before folding@home does.

Mr. Anderson
Sep 8, 2003, 09:57 AM
Good to see we've managed a couple days in a row in the Yellow according to Extreme Overclocking.....and is this our first time at over 11k points?

I wonder if we can keep this up :D

D

bertinman
Sep 8, 2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Good to see we've managed a couple days in a row in the Yellow according to Extreme Overclocking.....and is this our first time at over 11k points?

I wonder if we can keep this up :D

D

I think we passed 12k about a month ago, or it was a high 11k.

mc68k
Sep 8, 2003, 12:55 PM
congragulations on the output bertman! :)

u definitely have the single day record for most output for a user (not including post-outage spikes)

sparky76
Sep 8, 2003, 01:11 PM
don't get too excited about folding on a 1GHz Powerbook. I have on folding for about 16 hours a day, and the Athlon XP I am also running beats it hands down. Should the Macrumors home page not have a banner for folding, inviting all visitors to fold for the team if they use and like the site?

MacBandit
Sep 8, 2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by sparky76
don't get too excited about folding on a 1GHz Powerbook. I have on folding for about 16 hours a day, and the Athlon XP I am also running beats it hands down. Should the Macrumors home page not have a banner for folding, inviting all visitors to fold for the team if they use and like the site?

This has been discussed over and over and over again but really it's up to Arn. He's thrown us a bone on occasion and made our Folding team a front page article but by and large we have a MacRumors folding team but we aren't officially sponsored.

arn
Sep 8, 2003, 01:49 PM
someone make a banner, I'll throw it into the default rotation

arn

MacBandit
Sep 8, 2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by arn
someone make a banner, I'll throw it into the default rotation

arn

Hey, great thanks Arn!!!

Powerbook G5
Sep 8, 2003, 02:17 PM
On this general topic, I've noticed that we've been slipped lately and just lost ground to the Knights a while back. Looks like we are in need of more people or others are just not folding as much as they used to. Not sure if this is just because the client doesn't work on the G5 or what, though.

Mr. Anderson
Sep 8, 2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by arn
someone make a banner, I'll throw it into the default rotation

arn

We should start a new thread on this to get ideas on what we want to do.

I'll get it going.

D

MacBandit
Sep 8, 2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
On this general topic, I've noticed that we've been slipped lately and just lost ground to the Knights a while back. Looks like we are in need of more people or others are just not folding as much as they used to. Not sure if this is just because the client doesn't work on the G5 or what, though.

The Knights have been gaining on us for very very long time. The truth is our output is nearly double what it was 8 months ago.

Falleron
Sep 8, 2003, 04:06 PM
It wont make a huge difference but I have re-started a few machines that had decided to stop folding without me knowing.

MrMacMan
Sep 8, 2003, 05:32 PM
We Peaked after the article got published on the front page (well about 3 days after).

But most of the members stopped folding after 1-5 units, which helped a little but not much long term.

A banner would be great.

:)

Plutronics
Sep 8, 2003, 05:49 PM
Aside from Crashing Out 34% of a 71 pointer today, Ive got all 5 of our Macs foldin' !!:(

pimentoLoaf
Sep 8, 2003, 06:40 PM
Wondering what a G5 will do with a Gromacs unit... perhaps one frame every 5 minutes? 200 minutes for each unit? (Won't that be fun?)

MrMacMan
Sep 8, 2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Wondering what a G5 will do with a Gromacs unit... perhaps one frame every 5 minutes? 200 minutes for each unit? (Won't that be fun?)

I think Bous Stated that The Gromac Core itself will need to be tuned to work at all.

But yes, it will be ffasstt.

:D

bousozoku
Sep 8, 2003, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Wondering what a G5 will do with a Gromacs unit... perhaps one frame every 5 minutes? 200 minutes for each unit? (Won't that be fun?)

Remember that the AltiVec unit isn't quite as healthy as that of a G4 but the floating point units are much better.

It should trounce any Tinker units, and after getting the Gromacs core to run on the G5s, it should do quite nicely on Gromacs units as well.

MacBandit
Sep 9, 2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by bousozoku
Remember that the AltiVec unit isn't quite as healthy as that of a G4 but the floating point units are much better.

It should trounce any Tinker units, and after getting the Gromacs core to run on the G5s, it should do quite nicely on Gromacs units as well.

Is it that the Integer unit isn't as capable or is it that the software needs compiled differently?

bousozoku
Sep 9, 2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Is it that the Integer unit isn't as capable or is it that the software needs compiled differently?

Well, it's showing an instability error on any Gromacs WUs so far. I would expect that it may need to be re-compiled or they're using the missing AltiVec functionality. The Integer units are quite capable.

What's perplexing is that the Pande Group were quite unaware that there was a problem. :( Erik, the developer, should have been notified by the end of the week. Hopefully, they'll just be able to re-compile the thing with gcc 3.3 and it will produce an executable compatible with all Mac OS X machines.

Powerbook G5
Sep 9, 2003, 10:38 AM
Let's hope it gets addressed. It will be nice to see what a dual G5 could do for the team's output. On a tangent, I just finally broke into the top 200 rank for the team last night, I'm now 197 with 580 points! Not bad for one month's worth of folding :) For some reason, it looks like both the PCs at home aren't working anymore so I will have to wait until Christmas break to get back down there to see what is going on. I remember the client would crash like crazy over the summer when I started. I put the client on my roommate's HP laptop, which is what is keeping me going until I can get a new Mac. I really wish they could have made an OS 9 client, but I guess some things just aren't meant to be.

MacBandit
Sep 9, 2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by bousozoku
Well, it's showing an instability error on any Gromacs WUs so far. I would expect that it may need to be re-compiled or they're using the missing AltiVec functionality. The Integer units are quite capable.

What's perplexing is that the Pande Group were quite unaware that there was a problem. :( Erik, the developer, should have been notified by the end of the week. Hopefully, they'll just be able to re-compile the thing with gcc 3.3 and it will produce an executable compatible with all Mac OS X machines.

Well if that's the case hopefully they will use GCC 3.3+. It supposedly offers some performance improvements for G4 processors as well as G5s.

MrMacMan
Oct 2, 2003, 11:48 PM
Back to yellow!

[Note: why is there no 'yellow' in the color selection... wtf]

Yeah we are back in the yellow, but 'Slo-Tech' is Slowly coming from behind us... we will meet in 5 years...

:rolleyes:

vniow
Oct 4, 2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
[Note: why is there no 'yellow' in the color selection... wtf]


There is but it takes a bit more typing..

Anyhoo, I just added a 2.4Ghz Sony, username veronica, yay!

pimentoLoaf
Oct 4, 2003, 10:22 PM
Quickie Benchmark:

1.33mhz powerBook 17" is taking about 20 minutes to do a frame on:

p639_L939_K12M_nat

MrMacMan
Oct 5, 2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by vniow
There is but it takes a bit more typing..

Anyhoo, I just added a 2.4Ghz Sony, username veronica, yay!

Ah ha, So why the hell don't they list it as a color? :confused:


We are currently stationed around 9k a day... but yesterday we pulled around 11k which is real nice.

Keep it up there!

MacBandit
Oct 5, 2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Ah ha, So why the hell don't they list it as a color? :confused:

Because it's unreadable on a white background unless you enlarge the type or highlight it.

MrMacMan
Oct 5, 2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Because it's unreadable on a white background unless you enlarge the type or highlight it.

Yeah well against gray it is okay.

mc68k
Oct 6, 2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Yeah well against gray it is okay. sounds like a good slogan for our recall election!

MrMacMan
Oct 6, 2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by mc68k
sounds like a good slogan for our recall election!

Hehe.

:D :o :p ;) :rolleyes: :eek:

MacBandit
Oct 6, 2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Yeah well against gray it is okay.

Oh, you're using the default style set. Go to your user options and change to the Mac OSX style set. I find that most people love it. The default set is so Windows 3.1 it make me puke.

P.S. Not on my keyboard thankfully.

MrMacMan
Oct 6, 2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Oh, you're using the default style set. Go to your user options and change to the Mac OSX style set. I find that most people love it. The default set is so Windows 3.1 it make me puke.

P.S. Not on my keyboard thankfully.

And I find that running a Mac Os X board on Mac Os X is redundent.

I already use Mac Os X, why does everything else need to look like it?

:p

We are back around 10 K... :(

mc68k those Macs are producing less and less, I remember when rower had ém they were alot more productive!

:confused:

mc68k
Oct 6, 2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
ack around 10 K... :(

mc68k those Macs are producing less and less, I remember when rower had ém they were alot more productive!

:confused: the macs are doing rc5. on this team the macs were doing <5% (probably would be even less now). on my rc5 team they're doing 15-20%

PCs -> folding
macs -> rc5

these are the projects they do the best at.

i'd take over the library machines, but they have the registry locked out, and the account is not an admin account. thus i cannot make folding a service. if i run it as graphical or text, i can't get it to run at startup due to a cleaning of the startup folder. this wouldn't usually be a problem because of the registry, but i can't get into it.

so it's a matter of not being able to get it to start up when i'm not there. otherwise i'd have more points than bertman. the library has like 300 machines.

manzanita
Oct 6, 2003, 10:28 PM
Can I ask several dumb questions ... ?

Why is it that I seem to have done 167 WUs but have a score of 0? :(

And also ... I think I installed both the SP version from mc68k's site and the GUI version on my G5 ... does that mean they're both working at the same time? Could/should I get rid of one of them?

And also ... are there any problems with the G5s anymore? I didn't understand the discussion about what was not working with the G5s; I'm new to this ...

Thanks!

bousozoku
Oct 6, 2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by manzanita
Can I ask several dumb questions ... ?

Why is it that I seem to have done 167 WUs but have a score of 0? :(

And also ... I think I installed both the SP version from mc68k's site and the GUI version on my G5 ... does that mean they're both working at the same time? Could/should I get rid of one of them?

And also ... are there any problems with the G5s anymore? I didn't understand the discussion about what was not working with the G5s; I'm new to this ...

Thanks!

I don't know why you have a score of zero. Are you looking in the right place for your score? Did you set it up with the correct team number?

You should not run two different versions of folding at the same time on a single processor machine. You may keep them both on the machine, but choose to run only one.

There still is a problem with the G5 working on one kind of folding@home work unit.

manzanita
Oct 6, 2003, 11:07 PM
Thanks bousozoku ... I see myself on the 3446 team page, but I just started so I'm waaay down at the bottom: manzanita (http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?q=manzanita)

If I do 'rid' to delete the version that mc68k's script installed, it says it will clear my user crontab (what is that?) - will that delete the work it has done on the GUI version, too?

Ajmbc
Oct 7, 2003, 12:00 AM
I'm pleased to announce that I have a 700 mHz iBook and a 2.4 gHz p4 machine folding on the macrumors team.

I sound like a news anchor! :D

-ajmbc

MrMacMan
Oct 7, 2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Ajmbc
I'm pleased to announce that I have a 700 mHz iBook and a 2.4 gHz p4 machine folding on the macrumors team.

I sound like a news anchor! :D

-ajmbc

Welcome to the team, please to see new members!

Any questions/comments please post them.

:D


Good luck, good folding.. :)

MacBandit
Oct 7, 2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by manzanita
Can I ask several dumb questions ... ?

Why is it that I seem to have done 167 WUs but have a score of 0? :(

And also ... I think I installed both the SP version from mc68k's site and the GUI version on my G5 ... does that mean they're both working at the same time? Could/should I get rid of one of them?

And also ... are there any problems with the G5s anymore? I didn't understand the discussion about what was not working with the G5s; I'm new to this ...

Thanks!

Maybe you are exceeding the time limit on finishing work units. From what I understand they will accept partial and complete work units even after the finish date but you don't receive credit for them. I find that even on my Dual/1GHz/DDR PowerMac that I have to have it on and folding at least 2-3 hours a day to finish most work units on time. This really isn't a problem though since i use the install script and have it automatically start folding anytime the computer is turned on even when I am not logged in. Also I leave my computer on pretty much all day every day and just shut it off at night so I can have undisturbed sleep.

If you know the work unit you are working on you can check on the time needed to complete it by going to the project summary page (http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html).

bousozoku
Oct 7, 2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by manzanita
Thanks bousozoku ... I see myself on the 3446 team page, but I just started so I'm waaay down at the bottom: manzanita (http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?q=manzanita)

If I do 'rid' to delete the version that mc68k's script installed, it says it will clear my user crontab (what is that?) - will that delete the work it has done on the GUI version, too?

Well, most of the world does have to start at the bottom. :D

By the way, did you read the FAQ thread? It's there for everyone's information about folding@home.

I would wait until you finish a work unit to use rid to remove everything.

crontab holds information for processes which are to be executed at a later time.

Vlade
Oct 7, 2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Maybe you are exceeding the time limit on finishing work units. From what I understand they will accept partial and complete work units even after the finish date but you don't receive credit for them. [/URL].

Its the opposite, they will accept them, and you receive credit, but they don't actually use the data, they just throw it out.

pimentoLoaf
Oct 7, 2003, 07:15 PM
Unlike SETI which can store the data for later analysis, F@H needs the data for immediate analysis.

That's why Stanford was able to claim success in their efforts whilst SETI has yet (at least we assume) to show anything for over four years of analysis.

MacBandit
Oct 7, 2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
Unlike SETI which can store the data for later analysis, F@H needs the data for immediate analysis.

That's why Stanford was able to claim success in their efforts whilst SETI has yet (at least we assume) to show anything for over four years of analysis.

Well it couldn't be that protein strands are a tangible and proven thing while alien cultures are yet unproven.:rolleyes:

MrMacMan
Oct 9, 2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Well it couldn't be that protein strands are a tangible and proven thing while alien cultures are yet unproven.:rolleyes:

Well thats the whole thing.

Folding is Proven and will work.

SETI might take millions of years before we get any, any reading.

bousozoku
Oct 9, 2003, 09:02 PM
It could be that some of those aliens are ahead of us in the folding@home rankings, laughing at the pitiful earthlings. :D I'm sure there are some kids out there sending prank signals to the SETI people from time to time to get them excited too. When they finally decode the message, it will say "Is your refrigerated food storage unit running?" :D

GeeYouEye
Oct 13, 2003, 01:28 AM
I asked it six months ago or so, and I'll ask it again: am I the only person who still runs Seti@home? (yes, before you all get up in arms, I run Folding too)

Oh and as a side note, this thread now has 10000 views. :cool:

MrMacMan
Oct 13, 2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by GeeYouEye
I asked it six months ago or so, and I'll ask it again: am I the only person who still runs Seti@home? (yes, before you all get up in arms, I run Folding too)

Oh and as a side note, this thread now has 10000 views. :cool:

There are a few people still active on the SETI charts, but we are really ranked quite low.

MacBandit
Oct 13, 2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by GeeYouEye
I asked it six months ago or so, and I'll ask it again: am I the only person who still runs Seti@home? (yes, before you all get up in arms, I run Folding too)

Oh and as a side note, this thread now has 10000 views. :cool:

Yup just you. I chose to put all my processing time into something with near and tangible benefits.