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Jimmieboy
Nov 1, 2005, 04:08 AM
Hey everyone. I'm thinking of getting an ipod but i dont want one of the 30GB ones. I was waonderring whats better the nano or shufffle? I now most will saythe nano but is it really that good? I like to go jogging so I'd bneed a good case for it and I dont want it to break. Also I've heard abut it scractching and the screens breaking. So whats the 411 guys?



FrankieTDouglas
Nov 1, 2005, 04:32 AM
I bought a Shuffle because it was cheaper, I needed a flash drive without having to carry another cord around, and I just wanted some simple music playing while walking around campus, driving, or riding my bike. I just toss it in my pocket and go wherever. Not too worried about scratches or anything, so I don't have to baby it all the time. It's all about the functionality for me with it.

Just ask what your needs and expectations are.

Helmut Kool
Nov 1, 2005, 05:05 AM
I have a 512 MB shuffle and never have had another iPod. I have to agree that Shuffle is really convenient. You can have it with you all the time. It weights almost nothing and fits in any pocket. You can drop it on the floor and smash it around without being scared of broken screens or anything. Also it is quite easy to push skip and volume buttons while it's in your pocket (probably more difficult with other iPods).

512 MB version's 6-8 hours of music is usually enough for one day and the battery has never ran out. But I'd recommend the 1-gig version because it's almost as cheap now.

The downside of Shuffle is naturally the fact that you have to pretty much decide what music you want to listen before leaving your computer. If you like to listen random music this is not a problem.

I think that I would use a larger iPod less than the Shuffle because of the extra care it would require.

Ashapalan
Nov 1, 2005, 05:17 AM
The shuffle and nano both use flash drives, and so you can excerise both of them without worrying about damage to that and music skipping.

The shuffle however has less to go wrong with it, you won't find yourself pulling it out of your pocket to find a cracked screen, and it also has more scratch resistance.

The end all is that the shuffle is stronger than the nano, and so you dont have to worry as much about looking after it, you really can forget it's there. That said, the nano holds more songs which can be accessed with a screen. Plus the nano has more features therefore.

If you would like to be able to choose your music wherever you are, you need the nano, but if you just want a device you can fill with music in the morning and then throw it into your bag without worrying too much to damage, get the shuffle.

tomflix52
Nov 1, 2005, 03:02 PM
the nano is a joke it is wayyyyyyyyyy to small and there is basicly no use for the screen because the screen is so small and the shuffle is to boring i have a ipod mini, i would recommend buying a mini from a refurbishing site

grapes911
Nov 1, 2005, 03:04 PM
the nano is a joke it is wayyyyyyyyyy to small and there is basicly no use for the screen because the screen is so small and the shuffle is to boring i have a ipod mini, i would recommend buying a mini from a refurbishing siteWow! I'd take the nano over the mini in a heartbeat. It is not way to small. The main selling point is that a spinning hard drive cannot not compare to flash based storage. Flash is better in pretty much every possible area.

MacTruck
Nov 1, 2005, 03:05 PM
I can't believe these posts. The NANO is unbelievable. I took mine back to get the 60gb video but I was in love with it. That said, get the 30gb video, it beats them all to hell.

grapes911
Nov 1, 2005, 03:06 PM
I can't believe these posts. The NANO is unbelievable. I took mine back to get the 60gb video but I was in love with it. That said, get the 30gb video, it beats them all to hell.
Thank God. Another voice of reason. I was starting to get lonely. :p

snowmoon
Nov 1, 2005, 03:09 PM
I don't have a shuffle or nano, but with some of the "Smart Playlist" features it's quite easy to load up either with more than enough music to keep you busy. I think what it comes down to is... do you want to be able to load up several playlists or do you just listen to a mix of all of your music? Just a mix = shuffle, control = nano.

The feature that I was mentioning is being able to take your playlists and make "small" versions of them by making a smart playlist with the main playlist as the first condtion and the posibly slap a "My Rating" on top of that and limit to say 950mb of songs sorted by last played.

Cheers

2nyRiggz
Nov 1, 2005, 03:15 PM
the nano is wonderfull, function just like the full size hard drive ipods. You might want to take care when handling it but thats the price you pay for something lovelyful like the nano.

nano hands down although the shuffle is nice.


bless

iDM
Nov 1, 2005, 03:18 PM
I am pretty disappointed with my shuffle. It does not randomize well, and the responsiveness of the buttons is not very good. Size wise it's amazing, but not having the ability to select your music will really effect you if you have wide music tastes. I have Marvin Gaye, Aphex Twin, Rage Against the Machine, Fiona Apple and Led Zeppelin on my ipod in addition to many more, therefore when i go to the gym any of those artists may come on, which really kills the mood. It would be one thing if i only listened to rock or electronic but when Bulls on the Parade follows, "i heard it to the Grapevine," no matter how much Apple tells you the shuffle always manages to pick the exact song you wanna hear, that is dead wrong. I just bought another ipod so i will fill my shuffle with rock, rap, and hip-hop and it will only make the journey out while im at the gym or going biking/snowboarding but besides that i wanna be able to select my music for the day. So if you have varying tastes and think you will be listening to a wide variety of music then you may want the nano. Pick depending on your usuage but do not think that having a varying mix of music will lead to you being happy with the song the shuffle picks, if you don't mind clicking next song often then go for it, but i kinda like knowing the next song in a playlist or at leat knowing the music is going to be from the same century, decade, era, or genre. Good Luck!

Jay42
Nov 1, 2005, 03:20 PM
If this is going to be your main iPod (ie your only iPod) then go with the nano. Think about it, you're going to want to, at one time or another, find a certain song to play.

On the other hand, I already have a 30gig iPod for my main music collection and I think the shuffle would be a better secondary iPod for walking the dog, listening to podcasts, skiing, etc. But for longer trips (vacations, plane, car, etc) im going to want access to my entire collection.

What I'm really waiting for is a bluetooth shuffle with bluetooth ear buds. Just put it somewhere next to you're computer and it auto syncs, then throw it in the bottom of your bag and put in wireless buds! Sweeet.

BTW, you can fix the problem above by just autofilling from a certain playlist or putting your workout songs on top (in a random order if you want) and playing as a loop.

Jay42
Nov 1, 2005, 03:26 PM
the nano is a joke it is wayyyyyyyyyy to small and there is basicly no use for the screen because the screen is so small and the shuffle is to boring i have a ipod mini, i would recommend buying a mini from a refurbishing site

Haha, I just went back and read this. You would really rather have a thicker, non-color, hd based, heavier mini over a nano?!? Hmm, buyer's remorse?

Danksi
Nov 1, 2005, 03:28 PM
I bought a Shuffle because it was cheaper, I needed a flash drive without having to carry another cord around....

DITTO. It really depends what you need it for vs. cash available.

I already have a 2 year old 60Gb Zen Xtra for the car, for 45Gb of music we have. I felt that choosing 512Mb of music for a day or two's listening, would be just as tricky as 4Gb's worth. I'm bound to miss out on a tune or two. The 1Gb just allows for a greater range of music or some extra room for data files.

tomflix52
Nov 1, 2005, 03:32 PM
Haha, I just went back and read this. You would really rather have a thicker, non-color, hd based, heavier mini over a nano?!? Hmm, buyer's remorse?
im serious! the nano is just to small i got the chance to try my friends out, and i was walking around every once in a while i had to check if it was still in my pocket (the mini is just big enough to tell) plus the mini is cheaper and holds more

MmmPancakes
Nov 1, 2005, 03:43 PM
The Shuffle absolutely rocks. You don't have to treat it like a (flawed) museum piece everywhere you go. I highly recommend the 1gb, either refurb from Apple, or on e-Bay.

Lord Blackadder
Nov 1, 2005, 03:44 PM
I have a 1GB Shuffle and I like it a lot.

Personally I would have gotten an iPod Mini (I bought my Shuffle when they first came out), but for the money the Shuffle is great.

The Nano is "better", but the Shuffle is more rugged and cheaper.

If you can afford one go for the full-blown 60GB iPod video - it's the best.

Danksi
Nov 1, 2005, 04:04 PM
Has there ever been a poll, may be interesting to see how many users there own which different iPods.

devilot
Nov 1, 2005, 08:50 PM
im serious! the nano is just to small i got the chance to try my friends out, and i was walking around every once in a while i had to check if it was still in my pocket (the mini is just big enough to tell) plus the mini is cheaper and holds moreI don't know about you... but most of the runners/joggers/walkers I know don't wear clothing w/ pockets. I wear my nano in its armband so the size doesn't impact me.

As others have mentioned, I like the ability to choose a song or in my case, a play list. Sometimes I feel like a higher intensity workout-- harder music playlist, other days I feel like a chill leisurely walk-- enter more mellow playlist.

tomflix52
Nov 1, 2005, 10:01 PM
im not a runner i guess different ipods for different people

Phatpat
Nov 1, 2005, 10:57 PM
I'm glad to see a lot of people mentioning shuffles here. Everyone bashes the no-screen thing, but for exercising, it's perfect. Nothing to worry about breaking, small, and cheap. I like it.

QCassidy352
Nov 1, 2005, 11:24 PM
If this is going to be your main iPod (ie your only iPod) then go with the nano. Think about it, you're going to want to, at one time or another, find a certain song to play.


I second this. I have a shuffle and a mini. Even though I use my shuffle a lot more (running and at the gym), the mini (and the nano even more so) *could* fulfill the same role, albeit less conveniently. On the other hand, at all times except when working out, I really like to be able to pick songs, and the shuffle would drive me crazy.

I also agree with the poster who said that you really don't have to worry about the shuffle. Mine is scratched and scuffed to hell, and I couldn't care less; it's just functional. But I try to keep my mini immaculate.

As for the poster who was worried about hearing the wrong kind of music while working out with a shuffle - sure, that's why you just fill it with your favorite workout music, or rotate your workout music. And if you're going to use it at another time, just autofill another playlist. It's intended to be constantly refilled because of its small capacity anyway...

There's no such thing as a "best" ipod. Even at the same price, I'd rather have a nano than a video ipod because I would never *ever* watch videos, and my itunes library is 3.5 gigs, so the nano is perfect while the video ipod would be heavier and bulkier with absolutely no advantage - but that's just because of my particular uses.

ksz
Nov 2, 2005, 03:33 AM
The Shuffle absolutely rocks. You don't have to treat it like a (flawed) museum piece everywhere you go. I highly recommend the 1gb, either refurb from Apple, or on e-Bay.
I also agree despite owning both a 3G 30Gig iPod and a new iPod nano. I have the 1GB shuffle whose battery life is 12+ hours and still has the very best sound quality of all the iPods with the possible exception of the new 5G iPod (video) simply because I have not heard it and Jobs' touted its audio performance.

In any event, for sheer musical listening pleasure, my iPod shuffle is tops. It's just that much better to my ears than any other iPod I have.

(Incidentally, my 4GB nano has an audio distortion problem. I'll have to get it checked and possibly replaced.)

virus1
Nov 2, 2005, 02:47 PM
Haha, I just went back and read this. You would really rather have a thicker, non-color, hd based, heavier mini over a nano?!? Hmm, buyer's remorse?
more like denial

lucas
Nov 4, 2005, 05:17 AM
im serious! the nano is just to small i got the chance to try my friends out, and i was walking around every once in a while i had to check if it was still in my pocket
the music coming from the headphones werent a giveaway?

GroundLoop
Nov 4, 2005, 06:30 AM
Haha, I just went back and read this. You would really rather have a thicker, non-color, hd based, heavier mini over a nano?!? Hmm, buyer's remorse?

Actually, I tend to agree with tomflix52. I just bought a 6GB iPod Mini (to replace my 4GB). The Mini is much more durable than the Nano and it offers all the features that Ineed. I prefer not to look at my photos on an "impossibly small" screen. Plus, if you are exercising, the Mini's armband is much better than the Nano's. I have already heard of Nano arbands ripping and poor Nanos falling the the blacktop. What a shame.

For $200, you get a very sturdy, very scratch resistant, 18 hour battery life 6GB iPod. It was the right decision for me. But you need to assess your own priorities (do you need to have the latest and greatest, or do you just want a proven and strong music player).

Hickman

devilot
Nov 4, 2005, 10:03 AM
But you need to assess your own priorities (do you need to have the latest and greatest, or do you just want a proven and strong music player).Your choice of words doesn't jive well w/ me... I have a Nano but I don't believe that I need to have the latest and greatest at all. The Nano simply suited my needs/wants the best-- I don't need/want more storage, prefer tiny sizes, and well. Okay.

I was going to get a shuffle; I had argued w/myself and decided for the sake of a smaller form factor, I could do just as well without a screen, different playlists, etc.

And then the Nanos came out! Seemed perfect-- small form factor, easy to bring on jogs/walks/workouts, am able to input different playlists. They even have a stopwatch and a lap timer. :D

So while the Nano may not be 'a proven and strong music player,' my choice to get a Nano was NOT based on a 'need to have the latest and greatest.'

JDOG_
Nov 4, 2005, 10:25 AM
Get the shuffle if you like convienience & rugged, beat-em-up style. Get the nano if you want coolfactor.

Done.

Loge
Nov 4, 2005, 04:07 PM
The Mini is much more durable than the Nano and it offers all the features that Ineed.

Much as I like the mini, I can't accept that a hard drive based iPod is more durable than a flash based iPod. The nano seems extremely durable to me.

TEG
Nov 4, 2005, 04:26 PM
I use my Shuffle (HP Branded) 1GB all the time. I used to use my full size 3G all the time as well. It has now been delegated to recording classes, and as a jukebox in my car, as well as a rudimentary PDA. However, the nano and 5G don't have remote ports, so to me their useless.

The Shuffle I actually keep on the lanyard, and wear it everywhere I go. It has broken the ice in several social situations, and it helped me acquire some rare foodstuffs from a fast food store.

The nano is much more versatile though over the Shuffle. You can upload photos, from your camera or computer, plus the PDA abilities, however it is not as easy to use as a portable drive, especially between systems.

I would like to see black Shuffles available, as well as a 2GB Shuffle, with 4GB and 6GB nanos.

Think about what you will need, then your money, then make a decision.

TEG

conradzoo
Nov 4, 2005, 04:36 PM
Love me 1 gig shuffle. It sits comfy in me trousers when cycling or doing the dishes (its even fun now!). When i bought me shuffle in jan friends asked me, ' why not the real pod?', me answer, got it out of me pocket, threw it on the floor. No worries, just music.

JW008
Nov 4, 2005, 05:14 PM
Look on Apples's refurb site for the best deals. I had a 40GB iPod Photo (which is now a 60GB iPod with video thanks to Best Buy losing the Photo on its way to getting repaired) and bought a 512MB shuffle for exercising and stuff like that. The biggest advantage for me is that at only $80 off Apple's refurb site I use it no matter what I'm doing. I snow ski in it, I'm taking it to Mexico with me when I'm in the jungles studying Mayan ruins. If something happens to the shuffle, it's not that big of an investment.

balamw
Nov 4, 2005, 05:44 PM
However, the nano and 5G don't have remote ports, so to me their useless.
I'm surprised that no one has come up with a dock connector -> remote port adapter for the nanos and 5Gs to let people use their old accessories. AFAIK all the pins that were on the remote connector are still on the dock connector.

Of course since the 5G supports 44kHz stereo voice memos, I wonder why anyone would want to use the old ones on the 5G.

B

matticus008
Nov 5, 2005, 12:49 AM
Much as I like the mini, I can't accept that a hard drive based iPod is more durable than a flash based iPod. The nano seems extremely durable to me.

It is by far the most durable iPod Apple's ever put out. It's incredibly strong and resilient and extremely difficult to dent, as evidenced by a horrible incident earlier today. The dock cable somehow got caught up in my shoelace while sitting at my desk and when I stood up and turned, my nano was launched across the room into a solid wood door.

I feared the worse, but aside from a scuff on the back of the iPod (and no additional scratches on the front!), it was perfectly fine and free of dents. The door is nicked from the impact, so there was a fair amount of force behind it (it's a small room).

eXan
Nov 5, 2005, 03:30 AM
Nano is so much better/cooler that shuffle! I hate the fact that Suff has no screen :mad:

Nanos have color screen, a click wheel, more space and are VERY thin!

BornAgainMac
Nov 5, 2005, 04:57 AM
Get the 60 GB iPod and the 512 MB Shuffle. I have seen the 512 MB shuffle for $68 bucks.

Ringu
Nov 6, 2005, 12:51 PM
I've got a 60gb ipod, a 1 gig Shuffle and a 4 gig Nano. The ipod pretty soon got moved to 'home jukebox' duties. I find if I'm going out for a short trip I'll instinctively use the shuffle. I love the 'no worries about scratching' about the shuffle and the way I can easily feel the controls when the shuffle is still in my pocket.

For longer distances, I like the nano. It's my airplane 'pod. However, I invariably pop the Shuffle in my carry-on luggage too.

asherman13
Nov 6, 2005, 02:58 PM
I've got a 60gb ipod, a 1 gig Shuffle and a 4 gig Nano. The ipod pretty soon got moved to 'home jukebox' duties. I find if I'm going out for a short trip I'll instinctively use the shuffle. I love the 'no worries about scratching' about the shuffle and the way I can easily feel the controls when the shuffle is still in my pocket.

For longer distances, I like the nano. It's my airplane 'pod. However, I invariably pop the Shuffle in my carry-on luggage too.

personally, i have a 30GB 5G ipod. i'm considering getting the shuffle for use as a usb drive and for some tunes when i feel like it. also, people make cheaper, sturdier cases for the shuffle that let you use it underwater, to a certain depth (great for swimming!). the shuffle will probably be my "take it with me everywhere" and my ipod will be relegated to home, car (maybe, probably bus/roadtrips) and most certainly airplane usage. that video feature is awesome!

ergo, if you can afford it, go with a "refreshed" shuffle from the apple store and a 5G ipod. that's my 2.

Lord Sandwich
Nov 6, 2005, 09:19 PM
I needed something to replace my 40GB 4G at the gym, as the hard drive is simply too delicate to be used while I plod on a treadmill.

I chose the shuffle over the nano because it's a great complementary device, rather than a full-fledged player that competes for attention. Plus, it's much more rugged and comes with everything you need right out of the box (hooray for the lanyard!).

Perhaps when a flash-based iPod hits 20-30GB I'll consider upgrading my 4G, but till then this combo works best for me.

lucas
Nov 7, 2005, 09:24 AM
also, people make cheaper, sturdier cases for the shuffle that let you use it underwater, to a certain depth (great for swimming!).
is that an attempt at humour or are you really ***** stupid?

ftaok
Nov 7, 2005, 10:30 AM
I am pretty disappointed with my shuffle. It does not randomize well, and the responsiveness of the buttons is not very good. Size wise it's amazing, but not having the ability to select your music will really effect you if you have wide music tastes. I have Marvin Gaye, Aphex Twin, Rage Against the Machine, Fiona Apple and Led Zeppelin on my ipod in addition to many more, therefore when i go to the gym any of those artists may come on, which really kills the mood. It would be one thing if i only listened to rock or electronic but when Bulls on the Parade follows, "i heard it to the Grapevine," no matter how much Apple tells you the shuffle always manages to pick the exact song you wanna hear, that is dead wrong. I just bought another ipod so i will fill my shuffle with rock, rap, and hip-hop and it will only make the journey out while im at the gym or going biking/snowboarding but besides that i wanna be able to select my music for the day. So if you have varying tastes and think you will be listening to a wide variety of music then you may want the nano. Pick depending on your usuage but do not think that having a varying mix of music will lead to you being happy with the song the shuffle picks, if you don't mind clicking next song often then go for it, but i kinda like knowing the next song in a playlist or at leat knowing the music is going to be from the same century, decade, era, or genre. Good Luck!
iDM,

I haven't yet read through all of the posts yet, so if someone else suggested this, sorry.

If you sort the songs on the iPod shuffle playlist according to Genre, it'll load them that way in the shuffle. So if you're in the gym listening to the shuffle (on random) and you hit a song that fits your mood, then just switch over to straight play and songs in that Genre will play through.

It's not as elegant as having separate playlists, but it is a decent work around.

Personally, I load the songs onto my shuffle in alphabetical order. So when I hear a song from a certain performer, I can switch over to straight-play and hear other songs from that performer as well. It works pretty good.

ft

kwajo.com
Nov 7, 2005, 12:53 PM
I have a 4th gen 20GB and a 512 Shuffle, and the shuffle almost gets more use. I love the thing, it's incredibly durable and problem free, and as someone else said, it's sound quality is astounding. I hook it up to some high end headphones and lay in bed listening and it blows me away, and for the price that's a priceless sale right there