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MacRumors
Jun 3, 2013, 12:22 PM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/04/chrome.jpgGoogle has updated its Chrome browser app for iOS to version 27, adding conversational voice search capabilities that were introduced at Google I/O and later deployed in the desktop and Android versions of the browser.

Voice search, which is already possible via Google's Search app for iOS, can be accessed in Chrome through a microphone bar that has been added to the top of the keyboard.

The update also includes faster page reloading on slow connections along with bug fixes and stability improvementsImproved voice search!
- Say what you want and get results back without typing
- Faster voice recognition with text streamed on the fly
- Get answers spoken back to you with web results tailored to your questions

Faster page reloading
- Pages reload faster even when the network is slow or unavailable

Stability / security improvements and bug fixesChrome (http://appshopper.com/utilities/chrome) is a universal app that can be downloaded from the App Store for free. [Direct Link (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chrome/id535886823?mt=8)]

Article Link: Google Chrome for iOS Updated with Voice Search, Faster Page Reloading (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/03/google-chrome-for-ios-updated-with-voice-search-faster-page-reloading/)



A Hebrew
Jun 3, 2013, 12:25 PM
Best iOS browser keeps getting better.

Sirious
Jun 3, 2013, 12:31 PM
This is me: *Sees update for Chrome in App Store, hits update, loves the new features*

This goes on for all updates for Google Apps :)

.Asa
Jun 3, 2013, 12:32 PM
But still nowhere near as good as safari.

jabingla2810
Jun 3, 2013, 12:34 PM
If only it was as fast as Safari, and be made the default browser!

Then I'd use it!

anomie
Jun 3, 2013, 12:37 PM
But still nowhere near as good as safari.

Haha made my day!
Safari is so old fashioned. Shame on you Apple for I am forced to use it as standard.
Apple has the same attitude as M$ with InternetExplorer.
I'd bet a lot of money that chrome is exactly the browser Ive would have liked to see for iOS.
Clean, simple, fast.

bushido
Jun 3, 2013, 12:39 PM
love chrome if only i could set it as my default browser without the jb i just lost -.-

jabingla2810
Jun 3, 2013, 12:41 PM
Haha made my day!
Safari is so old fashioned. Shame on you Apple for I am forced to use it as standard.
Apple has the same attitude as M$ with InternetExplorer.
I'd bet a lot of money that chrome is exactly the browser Ive would have liked to see for iOS.
Clean, simple, fast.

I like Chrome but I think we have different definitions of the words, clean, simple and fast.

kwiiboy
Jun 3, 2013, 12:46 PM
With the help of the jailbreak I made Chrome my default browser and bought Nitrous. Absolutely perfect.

old-school
Jun 3, 2013, 12:50 PM
Chrome just keeps getting better and better. This is a very welcomed update, they are streets ahead of apple in this area.

anomie
Jun 3, 2013, 12:50 PM
I like Chrome but I think we have different definitions of the words, clean, simple and fast.

Maybe, but then I am right and you are wrong.
In safari I still have to scroll up the entire page to enter a new address or search.
Safari still has an address field and a search field (in osx Apple already adopted this from google).
Finally in safari I always have the stupid menu at the bottom. Why?
Cause it's nothing but old. I bet there will be nothing left from iOS 6 safari in iOS 7.
Safari is only fast cause Apple does not allow other developers what they allow their own.
Artificial.

AppleMark
Jun 3, 2013, 12:59 PM
Great!! Probably updated to try even more attempts to dial out and 'sniff' about my system.

My 'Littlesnitch' Application will probably go into meltdown with the 'Update'.

Why does Chrome try to sneak about my system and try to 'Update', when the App is not in use and supposed to be closed...?

Happens all the time and also whilst writing this post...

newagemac
Jun 3, 2013, 12:59 PM
Chrome is a great desktop browser right on par with Safari. However, on mobile it is laughably bad. First of all, on iOS it can't use the Nitro Javascript engine so that means its significantly slower than Safari. It's basically just a wrapper for iOS Webkit which means any amateur can create a "browser" in iOS over the weekend just as fast as Chrome.

Anandtech did some testing showing Chrome FOUR TIMES slower than Safari in Javascript performance:

To check the difference, we ran the SunSpider 0.9.1 JavaScript benchmark on both browsers on the iPad three times each. Safari's average total time came out to 1843.8ms compared to Chrome's 7248.6ms, making Safari almost four times faster than Chrome in JavaScript. These results were largely duplicated by a number of other users as well, who saw anywhere from 7000ms to more than 9000ms results from Chrome (the higher end coming from iPhones, lower end from iPads).


But then on Android, Chrome is very buggy and terribly laggy compared to the old Android browser. The old Android browser can't do a lot of modern HTML5 things but at least its somewhat stable. Most people I know with the newer Android phones that come with Chrome use a different browser.

Declaring Chrome to be the best mobile browser is one of the surest ways to out yourself as just a Google fanboy.

ArtOfWarfare
Jun 3, 2013, 01:08 PM
Chrome is a great desktop browser right on par with Safari. However, on mobile it is laughably bad. First of all, on iOS it can't use the Nitro Javascript engine so that means its significantly slower than Safari. It's basically just a wrapper for iOS Webkit which means any amateur can create a "browser" in iOS over the weekend just as fast as Chrome.

Have you attempted to write your own browser? I thought the same thing until I tried and I discovered that it's actually a lot more difficult than you would think to implement every little feature of mobile safari starting with the UIWebView.

(I wanted to actually make my browser a lot better than Safari, feature wise, but ultimately gave up since it was just a school assignment.)

lobbyist
Jun 3, 2013, 01:36 PM
Best browser in the game.

blackcrayon
Jun 3, 2013, 01:56 PM
Chrome is a great desktop browser right on par with Safari. However, on mobile it is laughably bad. First of all, on iOS it can't use the Nitro Javascript engine so that means its significantly slower than Safari. It's basically just a wrapper for iOS Webkit which means any amateur can create a "browser" in iOS over the weekend just as fast as Chrome.

Anandtech did some testing showing Chrome FOUR TIMES slower than Safari in Javascript performance:



Safari, with full access to all of the private APIs and things like Nitro is definitely faster than 3rd party browsers overall, but it's not nearly as big of a difference as your quote implies. It isn't as if there is 60 seconds of javascript on every web page to churn through (as in a sunspider test). If it's just a few little code snippets here and there, it's not going to matter much if one gets done in .2 seconds and the other .05.

arbogast777
Jun 3, 2013, 02:01 PM
Haven't had a chance to play around with it yet but with voice search built into Chrome is there really any need now for the stand-alone Google Search app?

doboy
Jun 3, 2013, 02:47 PM
Best iOS browser keeps getting better.

Still nowhere near iCab Mobile. :D

Razeus
Jun 3, 2013, 03:01 PM
This is why I love google. Always updating their products. Unlike, Apple who waits a whole year to be a 'feature' in the next version of iOS, instead of a steady stream of updates to keep up with the competition. No wonder they are always behind.

rwilliams
Jun 3, 2013, 03:16 PM
This is why I love google. Always updating their products. Unlike, Apple who waits a whole year to be a 'feature' in the next version of iOS, instead of a steady stream of updates to keep up with the competition. No wonder they are always behind.

I doubt it will happen, but I would love for iOS 7 to bring standalone Apple core apps that can be updated. There's no good reason that Safari, Photos, Weather, Mail, etc. have to wait a full year to be updated to the public.

zorinlynx
Jun 3, 2013, 03:17 PM
I can't believe Nitro has been out for so long now and Apple still hasn't figured out how to allow third-party apps to use it.

Oh wait, they probably have, but want all third-party browsers to be inferior so people use Safari. :P

And the "security" argument doesn't hold water. Apps are sandboxed anyway, so a hole in nitro isn't going to let you get very far anyway.

sputnikv
Jun 3, 2013, 03:29 PM
I can't believe Nitro has been out for so long now and Apple still hasn't figured out how to allow third-party apps to use it.

Oh wait, they probably have, but want all third-party browsers to be inferior so people use Safari. :P

And the "security" argument doesn't hold water. Apps are sandboxed anyway, so a hole in nitro isn't going to let you get very far anyway.

there's really not much to figure out, the jailbreak community pretty much established that it's simply a matter of enabling it for use outside of safari

it's market control obviously. i'm just surprised that no one has put forth a case against them as was put forth against microsoft years back with internet explorer

Xenomorph
Jun 3, 2013, 03:39 PM
Best iOS browser keeps getting better.

Best?

- Not default (unless you jailbreak), so links don't open in it.
- Slowest (unless you jailbreak and use Nitro).
- Can't "Copy" an image, so you have to copy and paste the link into Safari, then copy the image.

I think I'll stick with Safari.

Chrome is even worse on Android.

- Requires a 4.0+ OS, when most devices are stuck on 2.x or older.
- Requires a very fast device. Have a 1GHz device with 512MB RAM? It still chugs along and freezes frequently. It has thousands of 1-start reviews about how slow it is.

And don't get me started on the Desktop Chrome.

- No decent NoScript replacement.
- Inconsistent Auto-scroll. It's there on Windows, but not on Mac without installing an extension!
- This crap: "This extension is managed and cannot be removed or disabled."

Chrome is terrible on all platforms, but there's always a circle-jerk party for it.

andrewpturko
Jun 3, 2013, 03:41 PM
Was anyone else hoping for the "touch-less conversational search" demoed at I/O. Eg..."Ok Google (insert search here)"? Sort of disappointed this isn't out yet.

kirky29
Jun 3, 2013, 03:44 PM
I'd like Google to add a bookmark bar to iOS Chrome. At least for the iPad...

rmwebs
Jun 3, 2013, 03:49 PM
Great!! Probably updated to try even more attempts to dial out and 'sniff' about my system.

My 'Littlesnitch' Application will probably go into meltdown with the 'Update'.

Why does Chrome try to sneak about my system and try to 'Update', when the App is not in use and supposed to be closed...?

Happens all the time and also whilst writing this post...

You'll also notice those 10-15 connections to Apple servers every hour there then. One of which is for system stat logging which can only be disabled from the console app.

Dont try the 'Google are spying on me' nonsense, it's really wearing thin now. :rolleyes:

AppleMark
Jun 3, 2013, 04:51 PM
You'll also notice those 10-15 connections to Apple servers every hour there then. One of which is for system stat logging which can only be disabled from the console app.

Dont try the 'Google are spying on me' nonsense, it's really wearing thin now. :rolleyes:

Nonsense, spying, wearing thin...., from who....? Cannot say I have mentioned this before. :rolleyes:

My system & applications contact servers all the time. Mail, Safari, itunes, even MS Word etc. The difference is that they do this when the applications are open, opened and in use, not when closed.

I am aware of all connections and Chrome does this even when it is [supposedly] inactive.

It is what it is..., what is wearing thin is perhaps your 'blinker' mentality. :rolleyes:

ArtOfWarfare
Jun 3, 2013, 04:53 PM
I'm curious how google managed to load pages faster...

With the comments Tim Cook made a few weeks ago, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that one of the changes in iOS 7 may be the ability to truly replace some stock iOS apps, IE, replace the calculator with Wolfram, replace Safari with Chrome, Mail with Mailbox, Music with Spotify, and so on.

I think it might not be unrealistic for Apple to only make it so the two stores, Phone, and Settings are the only apps that can't be displaced.

MrDoo
Jun 3, 2013, 04:59 PM
I'm curious how google managed to load pages faster...

With the comments Tim Cook made a few weeks ago, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that one of the changes in iOS 7 may be the ability to truly replace some stock iOS apps, IE, replace the calculator with Wolfram, replace Safari with Chrome, Mail with Mailbox, Music with Spotify, and so on.

I think it might not be unrealistic for Apple to only make it so the two stores, Phone, and Settings are the only apps that can't be displaced.

In Boot camp on my mac, Chrome is way faster than Safari in Window 7. Will have to see if Chrome is faster on the mac now.

RedTomato
Jun 3, 2013, 05:02 PM
My biggest problem with Chrome (and tbh Safari too) is if you:

- have 10+ tabs open.
- go to some different tabs
- go back to your old tab.

Chrome will happily show you a picture of your old tab, then whip it away and require that the whole page be reloaded. If you have no connection then you're stuck with a blank page. Particularly frustrating when the exact info you need is clearly visible in the picture.

Some have said it's to save memory. Hello? I have 100MB RAM free and 10GB of flash free on the phone. How about saving old tabs to the flash memory? It isn't rocket science. No idea why chrome does this, it's clearly happy to save pictures of old tabs, even when I tried it with about to 150+ tabs.

toaster64
Jun 3, 2013, 07:33 PM
"conversational voice search capabilities"
How are voice search capabilities controversial???
EDIT: Oops, misread the word.

toaster64
Jun 3, 2013, 08:21 PM
And don't get me started on the Desktop Chrome.

- No decent NoScript replacement.
- Inconsistent Auto-scroll. It's there on Windows, but not on Mac without installing an extension!
- This crap: "This extension is managed and cannot be removed or disabled."

Chrome is terrible on all platforms, but there's always a circle-jerk party for it.

It's second-best in general on Mac but behind Safari by a large margin. My problems are that it's slightly slower than Safari, it lacks features like the Activity Window, it looks really ugly, and it really hogs RAM (like 2X what Safari uses). At least it's not uber-slow like FireFox or retarded like IE or just sketchy like Opera.

reel2reel
Jun 3, 2013, 09:40 PM
My biggest problem with Chrome (and tbh Safari too) is if you:

- have 10+ tabs open.
- go to some different tabs
- go back to your old tab.

Chrome will happily show you a picture of your old tab, then whip it away and require that the whole page be reloaded. If you have no connection then you're stuck with a blank page. Particularly frustrating when the exact info you need is clearly visible in the picture.

Some have said it's to save memory. Hello? I have 100MB RAM free and 10GB of flash free on the phone. How about saving old tabs to the flash memory? It isn't rocket science. No idea why chrome does this, it's clearly happy to save pictures of old tabs, even when I tried it with about to 150+ tabs.

Ugh YES! This is the most obnoxious thing and there are endless posts over on the Google forums complaining about the forced refreshes. I really hope it's fixed in this update. It's even more annoying when you're on a flaky connection.

toaster64
Jun 3, 2013, 09:49 PM
But still nowhere near as good as safari.

Haha, true. Reminds me of Gmail websites and apps on all platforms. AWESOME NEW FEATURES... but it only works with Gmail accounts... and it has no system integration.

----------

I'm curious how google managed to load pages faster...


So am I. That has me puzzled.

the8thark
Jun 3, 2013, 10:21 PM
Best iOS browser keeps getting better.

Best in your opinion. I personally would never poison my iPad with chrome. But I have used chrome on my friends iPad so I know what it's like. And what features it does and does not have.

Everyone is different and has their own favourite iOS browser.

Tmelon
Jun 3, 2013, 11:07 PM
"conversational voice search capabilities"
How are voice search capabilities controversial???

Controversial ≠ Conversational

bozzykid
Jun 3, 2013, 11:53 PM
"conversational voice search capabilities"
How are voice search capabilities controversial???

You mean conversational? Probably because you get voice responses when they are a part of the open graph data.

toaster64
Jun 4, 2013, 12:12 AM
You mean conversational? Probably because you get voice responses when they are a part of the open graph data.

Oh ctm I misread it. I thought it said "controversial".

a0me
Jun 4, 2013, 12:40 AM
Best?

- Not default (unless you jailbreak), so links don't open in it.
- Slowest (unless you jailbreak and use Nitro).
- Can't "Copy" an image, so you have to copy and paste the link into Safari, then copy the image.

I think I'll stick with Safari.

Chrome is even worse on Android.

- Requires a 4.0+ OS, when most devices are stuck on 2.x or older.
- Requires a very fast device. Have a 1GHz device with 512MB RAM? It still chugs along and freezes frequently. It has thousands of 1-start reviews about how slow it is.

And don't get me started on the Desktop Chrome.

- No decent NoScript replacement.
- Inconsistent Auto-scroll. It's there on Windows, but not on Mac without installing an extension!
- This crap: "This extension is managed and cannot be removed or disabled."

Chrome is terrible on all platforms, but there's always a circle-jerk party for it.
I guess not everybody has the same requirements.
+ Chrome is multiplatform, which is a requirement for all of us that have to use Windows/Linux/Android in parallel with our Mac and iPhones.
+ Chrome -at least in my experience- is more responsive than Safari, particularly if you're using a slightly older device (iPhone 4, 2010 iMac, 2011 MacBook Pro, etc...). I'm not talking about the rendering engine here, only the UI.
+ Chrome's UI is cleaner and the search function in the app settings (desktop version) is unmatched.

- My only real gripe with Chrome is the extensions which request permissions to access all of my data on every site, which means that I'll never install any extension, with the exception of Google's own.

IvanX
Jun 4, 2013, 04:01 AM
Faster page reloading
- Pages reload faster even when the network is slow or unavailable
I am curious to know how Chrome is reloading pages at any speed, let alone faster, when the network connection is unavailable :confused:

JaySoul
Jun 4, 2013, 04:29 AM
Never liked Chrome on desktop, but LOVE Chrome on iOS.

Just the swipe to other tabs feature makes it a winner, as well as being able to keep open more than 8 lol.

It's actually better on iOS than Android in many respects.

The Phazer
Jun 4, 2013, 04:44 AM
I am curious to know how Chrome is reloading pages at any speed, let alone faster, when the network connection is unavailable :confused:

Well that's the point. It pulls out a greyscale placeholder image of the page from cache and tries to reload it, but given the lack of network connection it fails and therefore you're left without any page at all.

It is annoying.

With a jailbreak and Nitrous installed there are pros and cons for Safari and Chrome. It's just a shame that Apple cripples the brower market on iOS so proper competition can't come about, because I think there are singificant chances to improve on both of them.

RedTomato
Jun 4, 2013, 06:35 AM
Well that's the point. It pulls out a greyscale placeholder image of the page from cache and tries to reload it, but given the lack of network connection it fails and therefore you're left without any page at all.

It is annoying.

I wish it would just leave the placeholder image in place. Sometimes the information I need is clearly visible in the placeholder image, but Chrome yanks it away when it fails to reload it.

Most common use-case is opening a few webpages for later reference or reading on the tube or for when you will be in an area with no connection. Chrome shafts you when you try doing that.

There's no need to fall over when reloading with no connection - Chrome should just save the page to catche - there's 100MB+ of RAM and 10GB+ of flash space available on the phone!

till213
Jun 4, 2013, 10:15 AM
... adding conversational voice search capabilities ...

And who gives a Siri! I mean what lunatic people actually WANT to talk to their gadgets! :eek:

Keane16
Jun 4, 2013, 10:25 AM
there's really not much to figure out, the jailbreak community pretty much established that it's simply a matter of enabling it for use outside of safari

it's market control obviously. i'm just surprised that no one has put forth a case against them as was put forth against microsoft years back with internet explorer

Microsoft had 90%+ market share, they used that market share to stifle competition.

Apple is nowhere near as dominant (not even number 1 in the smartphone/mobile OS market) and there are many viable alternatives to iOS - Android, Blackberry and Windows Phone to name a few.

MikBe
Jun 4, 2013, 11:21 AM
I love Chrome but hate how it deletes what I took ten excruciating minutes typing on my iPad just because I had to jump out to another app to check something. Now I type in Notes and cut and paste into it but I still hate it when I forget to do that.

lildimsum7
Jun 4, 2013, 02:45 PM
Nitrous fixes all your problems.

sputnikv
Jun 7, 2013, 02:11 PM
Microsoft had 90%+ market share, they used that market share to stifle competition.

Apple is nowhere near as dominant (not even number 1 in the smartphone/mobile OS market) and there are many viable alternatives to iOS - Android, Blackberry and Windows Phone to name a few.

microsoft however did not have an app approval system in place nor a means of preventing other competing apps from using certain technologies

Keane16
Jun 10, 2013, 07:19 AM
microsoft however did not have an app approval system in place nor a means of preventing other competing apps from using certain technologies

If people don't like it, they should use something else. Like I said, nothing will be forced upon Apple unless they become dominant, which they're no where near at the moment.

I love the fact their is an app approval process. It takes away so much of the Play Store headache of checking publishers, release notes, reviews etc making sure what I'm buying is legit. I also don't see how having an App store review process is detrimental to the consumer.

Apple can allow or withhold features and APIs as they see fit - devs sign an agreement before developing for the platform. On a related note, Google (and no doubt Microsoft etc.) limit API access too for example: http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/...

sputnikv
Jul 16, 2013, 04:36 PM
If people don't like it, they should use something else. Like I said, nothing will be forced upon Apple unless they become dominant, which they're no where near at the moment.

I love the fact their is an app approval process. It takes away so much of the Play Store headache of checking publishers, release notes, reviews etc making sure what I'm buying is legit. I also don't see how having an App store review process is detrimental to the consumer.

Apple can allow or withhold features and APIs as they see fit - devs sign an agreement before developing for the platform. On a related note, Google (and no doubt Microsoft etc.) limit API access too for example: http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/...

people are moving on and that's the reason they're not dominant.

Keane16
Jul 24, 2013, 07:20 AM
people are moving on and that's the reason they're not dominant.

You made an argument, it was shot down.

So you made a different argument, it was shot down.

Now you've made another argument...

Why if they're not dominant did you say "i'm just surprised that no one has put forth a case against them as was put forth against microsoft years back with internet explorer"

You've kind of answered your initial question pal. It's because they're not dominant.

sputnikv
Aug 13, 2013, 03:51 PM
You made an argument, it was shot down.

So you made a different argument, it was shot down.

Now you've made another argument...

Why if they're not dominant did you say "i'm just surprised that no one has put forth a case against them as was put forth against microsoft years back with internet explorer"

You've kind of answered your initial question pal. It's because they're not dominant.

i didn't realize we were arguing. what part of what i said didn't you understand?