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MacRumors
Jun 4, 2013, 08:43 AM
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Two months ago, Topeka Capital Markets analyst Brian White gained significant attention (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/03/analyst-claims-60-inch-itv-could-launch-in-late-2013-with-iring-motion-control-and-ipad-like-auxiliary-screens/) for his claims that Apple is targeting a late 2013 launch for its long-rumored television set. In his research note, White claimed that Apple has been working on a 60-inch television that will use an "iRing" motion controller as well as iPad-like auxiliary second screens.

In a new research note published today, White stands by his previous claims, continuing to believe that Apple is looking to service subsidies to help bring the upfront cost of the television set down.We were told that carriers will be an important part of the go-to-market strategy for Apple's TV ambitions and subsidize the $1,500-$2,500 "iTV", offering customers a single bill that will include a wireless plan (i.e., iPhone, iPad), Internet connection services, an "iTV" plan and other services. As we have previously discussed, the 60-inch "iTV" (50-inch and 55-inch may also be available) is anticipated to come with one iPad-sized "mini iTV" with the option to add more "mini iTVs".Such bundling may, however, be difficult given that customers frequently have different wireless carriers and cable or satellite television providers, although some providers such as Time Warner Cable and Verizon Wireless have teamed up to offer bundles of TV, Internet, home phone, and mobile phone service.

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White goes on to describe his vision for how the TV will be controlled:Motion detection technology will be used on the "mothership iTV" and the "iRing" will allow for improved control accuracy. For example, we believe the "iRing" will provide for more accurate control of channel surfing, content management and settings via motion detection, while also offering a more seamless gaming experience on Game Center. We were told that "iRing" will not be the sole option available to control the "mothership iTV", as iOS devices (i.e., iPhone, iPad) and Siri will provide alternatives for similar or different use cases. Clearly, there will be many different uses for "iTV" and similar to the various devices (i.e., remote, Magic Mouse, Magic Trackpad, wireless keyboard, etc.) that are used to control an iMac, we believe it makes sense for consumers to have different options to control the "iTV".Finally, White believes that component production for Apple's rumored lower-cost iPhone will ramp up this month, setting the stage for a possible introduction as soon as next month. Most sources have, however, indicated that it will launch somewhat later, with KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo indicating (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/11/production-challenges-to-delay-launches-of-iphone-5s-lower-cost-iphone-and-new-ipad-mini/) that a launch in the August-October timeframe is most likely due to Apple's continued work on color coatings for the device's plastic shell.

Article Link: Analyst Still Believes Apple Television Set With 'iRing' Motion Control Coming Late This Year (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/04/analyst-still-believes-apple-television-set-with-iring-motion-control-coming-late-this-year/)



M-O
Jun 4, 2013, 08:45 AM
i would rather use a wii-mote like controller than put on a ring.

johnhmeyer123
Jun 4, 2013, 08:49 AM
Why does Apple always have trouble with these color coatings? Remember the rediculous delay of the white iPhone 4?

Jugney
Jun 4, 2013, 08:50 AM
Given Tim Cook's confession of interest in wearables last week, the iRing is actually sounding less far-fetched.

Andy-V
Jun 4, 2013, 08:51 AM
The rumours of an Apple TV really died down in the last few months.

Pianoblack3
Jun 4, 2013, 08:54 AM
Well, the analyst knows where to stick his thoughts.

Shrink
Jun 4, 2013, 08:55 AM
That horrible remote control I have to use is so awful. I have to pick it up, and push a button or two.

What an incredible burden. Now wearing a ring I need to put on and take off every time I want to watch TV, wave my hand around, deal with the inevitable glitches, is a much better idea.

Or, instead of the oh-so-1980's remote...that big heavy, awful remote...I can have the incredible convenience of using my iPad. Now that's a major improvement.

And finally, I can use Siri. No problems there since Siri has been so precise in the past, and since it has to use Apple servers...well, I just can't believe what an improvement these dandy little gadgets will be over that awful remote I have to struggle with now.

Gimmick for gimmick sake? :confused:

anomie
Jun 4, 2013, 08:56 AM
I guess whatever they present wont be a game changer anymore.
For controls we all saw Xbox one already. Even if the gestures will be different, Apple won't shock any competitors.
Maybe by offering great content. But there already are so many others offering that.
Apple seems so slow these days.
Still hope they'll prove me wrong.

kas23
Jun 4, 2013, 09:01 AM
This iRing business sounds like such a bad idea. It needs to die, quickly.

"Honey, want to rent a movie tonight?"

"Yeah, I'll get the ring."

"Guess what? I'm already wearing it!"

"Oh, honey"

Razzerman II
Jun 4, 2013, 09:02 AM
Well I, for one, can't wait to wrestle with the kids for control of the One Ring, Frodo & Gollum style, so we can all watch snooker in peace.

kas23
Jun 4, 2013, 09:02 AM
That horrible remote control I have to use is so awful. I have to pick it up, and push a button or two.

What an incredible burden. Now wearing a ring I need to put on and take off every time I want to watch TV, wave my hand around, deal with the inevitable glitches, is a much better idea.

Or, instead of the oh-so-1980's remote...that big heavy, awful remote...I can have the incredible convenience of using my iPad. Now that's a major improvement.

And finally, I can use Siri. No problems there since Siri has been so precise in the past, and since it has to use Apple servers...well, I just can't believe what an improvement these dandy little gadgets will be over that awful remote I have to struggle with now.

Gimmick for gimmick sake? :confused:

But, it's wearable. In case you missed it, it's the new black!

I don't think this is about gimmickry though. It's Apple desperately trying to push out a "new category" because investors and nay-sayers are clamoring for one.

Mad Mac Maniac
Jun 4, 2013, 09:03 AM
The idea of an iRing just sounds so strange to me... I don't see that working well...

Will I need to put on a ring whenever I want to use the TV? Because that will be annoying... If it's only optional, then most people will only "put it on when they need it", but then never actually put on. If it's something that Apple expects us to never take off (to eliminate the stigma of "oh, let me put on my ring to watch tv for a few minutes"), then what incentive will the ring have for us to keep it on constantly? I don't really see people doing that.. What functionality can you put in a ring? No room for a screen. Plus then you'll need to buy a ring for every member of the household. I also don't see the benefit of manipulating the TV with a single finger anyway. Try pointing and wiggling your finger right now as if you were trying to control the TV... The whole thing just seems awkward.

What would make much more sense is controlling with the iWatch. You can build more incentive to wear a watch all the time. You can still use air gestures if you want, but what would make more sense is to perform swipes on the screen to create actions like changing the channel, volume, etc

troop231
Jun 4, 2013, 09:05 AM
The question is if it will be reasonably priced in line with other HDTVs. I don't see alot of people just getting rid of their current HDTV because Apple comes out with one.

kas23
Jun 4, 2013, 09:06 AM
The idea of an iRing just sounds so strange to me... I don't see that working well...

Will I need to put on a ring whenever I want to use the TV? Because that will be annoying... If it's only optional, then most people will only "put it on when they need it", but then never actually put on.

People can't even put on condoms, even when their health depends on it. I don't see them reaching for a ring to change the stupid channel.

ArtOfWarfare
Jun 4, 2013, 09:08 AM
I want a bigger iMac. 27" is too small (I'd rather have something in the 32-37" range.) Can I put the 50" version of this on my desk and use it as an iMac?

I want typical iMac resolution, too, if not better.

Shrink
Jun 4, 2013, 09:12 AM
People can't even put on condoms, even when their health depends on it. I don't see them reaching for a ring to change the stupid channel.

However, the possibility of an iCondom allowing one to control their TV with...

Maybe not practical...:p:o

And then there's the women's issue...

cambox
Jun 4, 2013, 09:14 AM
I wouldn't get used to calling it an iTV.

DCstewieG
Jun 4, 2013, 09:18 AM
A subsidized model could make sense. The only reason millions of people buy $650+ phones every two years is because they don't know they are.

BornAgainMac
Jun 4, 2013, 09:22 AM
Instead of having a ton of remotes, you can have a ton of rings like the villain in the Ironman trailer.

fivedots
Jun 4, 2013, 09:25 AM
If in fact the iRing is a legitimate thing, it will be strongly tied to motion control in gaming and less so to the day-to-day operations of the TV.

This guy lost me when he said "we believe the "iRing" will provide for more accurate control of channel surfing".

Finally, a solution to all those years of inaccurate channel surfing!

Ddyracer
Jun 4, 2013, 09:25 AM
It's teh Magic Wand all over again!

Damian.
Jun 4, 2013, 09:26 AM
iRing?

What drugs is this guy on?

lolkthxbai
Jun 4, 2013, 09:28 AM
Why does Apple always have trouble with these color coatings? Remember the rediculous delay of the white iPhone 4?

It must be perfect or else.

robanybody
Jun 4, 2013, 09:32 AM
However, the possibility of an iCondom allowing one to control their TV with...

Maybe not practical...:p:o

And then there's the women's issue...

Ahh, so you missed the Apple exec a month or so ago who was talking about the iRabbit? Combine that with the iWatch and you have a real iPolicemans paradise. :)

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I wouldn't get used to calling it an iTV.

Couldn't call it that in the UK. ITV is one of the major broadcasters.

Risco
Jun 4, 2013, 09:33 AM
Well the Apple TV has underwhelmed me a bit, I am struggling to see what their USP will be.

audio_inside
Jun 4, 2013, 09:37 AM
iRing is probably not something you wear - more likely a version of this, the Loop Freespace controller from Hillcrest Labs. Paid about $100 for mine on Amazon, but it's been sitting unused next to the TV for the last couple of years:

http://gadgetynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/freespace-loop-300x300.jpg

Comfortable to use, USB dongle communicates wirelessly with the ring, which emulates left and right mouse buttons and scroll wheel. Grip it in either hand and the mouse pointer follows your movement in two axes. But there were never MacOS-specific drivers for it and their pointing model never worked very well with my Mac Mini-based HTPC system.

mumph
Jun 4, 2013, 09:45 AM
That horrible remote control I have to use is so awful. I have to pick it up, and push a button or two.

What an incredible burden. Now wearing a ring I need to put on and take off every time I want to watch TV, wave my hand around, deal with the inevitable glitches, is a much better idea.

Or, instead of the oh-so-1980's remote...that big heavy, awful remote...I can have the incredible convenience of using my iPad. Now that's a major improvement.

And finally, I can use Siri. No problems there since Siri has been so precise in the past, and since it has to use Apple servers...well, I just can't believe what an improvement these dandy little gadgets will be over that awful remote I have to struggle with now.

Gimmick for gimmick sake? :confused:

My brother has just bought a 50" LG TV with surround sound speakers. The TV does not operate without the speakers attached. There is a remote for the TV and one for the Speakers. Both have at least 60 buttons on them. To turn the TV on I have to pick up one remote (which looks exactly the same as the other) and press the button. Because they both look alike the speaker turns on and not the TV. So I pick up the other remote to now turn the TV on :rolleyes: So now the TV and the speakers are on I then have to pick up the Sky TV remote to turn on the Sky box and select a channel. If I want to change the volume I can no longer use the Sky remote I need to guess which of the two identical remotes to use. If I get it wrong the + and - will change the input channel. So to watch TV I need to be accompanied by 3 remotes and about 300 buttons.

Want to watch a DVD? 4 remotes 330 buttons.

Apple understands the stupidity of all the remotes etc. Their device, whatever it may be will be elegant. While an iRing sounds a bit gimmicky the less pissing around with remotes and thousands of buttons the better.

I would like to see a touchscreen remote with built in tv guide. slide up and down to view whats on, tap the program you want to watch.

EDIT: Oh and it takes 10 seconds for the speakers to turn on and off. Just because it says Goodbye doesnt make it better!

Schizoid
Jun 4, 2013, 09:50 AM
Anyone else have a sense of dread and embarrassment about this iTV impending colossal failure?!

CGagnon
Jun 4, 2013, 09:53 AM
I want a bigger iMac. 27" is too small (I'd rather have something in the 32-37" range.) Can I put the 50" version of this on my desk and use it as an iMac?

I want typical iMac resolution, too, if not better.

That's why you get the cinema displays to go with it.

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Anyone else have a sense of dread and embarrassment about this iTV impending colossal failure?!

I feel the complete opposite, I can't wait to buy two!

BigJohno
Jun 4, 2013, 10:02 AM
This is joke right? Everyday I loose my apple remote. How am I supposed to keep track of a ring.

Shaun, UK
Jun 4, 2013, 10:06 AM
Subsidised iTV would mean an expensive monthly contract. For what? Can't see the mobile phone or cable companies going for that solution. If they can't build it for a reasonable price then don't bother and stick with the current AppleTV box.

Shrink
Jun 4, 2013, 10:07 AM
My brother has just bought a 50" LG TV with surround sound speakers. The TV does not operate without the speakers attached. There is a remote for the TV and one for the Speakers. Both have at least 60 buttons on them. To turn the TV on I have to pick up one remote (which looks exactly the same as the other) and press the button. Because they both look alike the speaker turns on and not the TV. So I pick up the other remote to now turn the TV on :rolleyes: So now the TV and the speakers are on I then have to pick up the Sky TV remote to turn on the Sky box and select a channel. If I want to change the volume I can no longer use the Sky remote I need to guess which of the two identical remotes to use. If I get it wrong the + and - will change the input channel. So to watch TV I need to be accompanied by 3 remotes and about 300 buttons.

Want to watch a DVD? 4 remotes 330 buttons.

Apple understands the stupidity of all the remotes etc. Their device, whatever it may be will be elegant. While an iRing sounds a bit gimmicky the less pissing around with remotes and thousands of buttons the better.

I would like to see a touchscreen remote with built in tv guide. slide up and down to view whats on, tap the program you want to watch.

EDIT: Oh and it takes 10 seconds for the speakers to turn on and off. Just because it says Goodbye doesnt make it better!

Well, then the iRing (or iCondom, mentioned above) may be a great solution for you.:D

And the speakers taking 10 seconds to turn on and off...I feel your pain!:(

;) :D

bedifferent
Jun 4, 2013, 10:13 AM
Whenever I hear this rumor, I can't help think of "preciouuussss"

Shaun, UK
Jun 4, 2013, 10:15 AM
This is joke right? Everyday I loose my apple remote. How am I supposed to keep track of a ring.

You can already get smart TVs that don't need a remote, just use voice or hand gestures to control it. The iRing thing is a complete nonsense.

ArtOfWarfare
Jun 4, 2013, 10:16 AM
That's why you get the cinema displays to go with it.

I don't like having multiple monitors. I just want one massive one. Apple doesn't make 30"+ cinema displays anymore, do they?

Not that it really matters... I love the iMac and just want one with a freaking massive display.

bedifferent
Jun 4, 2013, 10:16 AM
I want a bigger iMac. 27" is too small (I'd rather have something in the 32-37" range.) Can I put the 50" version of this on my desk and use it as an iMac?

I want typical iMac resolution, too, if not better.

Believe it or not, a friend once used a flat screen connected to one of his DVI outs. With third party apps such as "SwitchResX" he was able to get it looking fairly good. It was inexpensive and years ago, I'm guessing the newer LED LCD flat screens might work better (and most have PC connections).

quasinormal
Jun 4, 2013, 10:17 AM
Anyone else have a sense of dread and embarrassment about this iTV impending colossal failure?!

Nah. It'll be great. I'm really looking forward to putting my finger in Tim's ring.

SBlue1
Jun 4, 2013, 10:19 AM
Sounds great. Here are the things I would like it to have to consider buying a new Apple TV:

- CEC support. The Apple TV should be able to wake up the television. Its not very convenient to start the current Apple TV with its remote or the iPhone just to see that the TV remote is not on the couch and you have to get up again.

- 3rd party apps. Would open a whole new world of games and big screen content.

- Cheaper TV-Series. They are way to expensive at the moment.

- Direct support for iTunes libraries sitting on an external hard drive without the need to boot your Mac and start iTunes.

Please? :p

bacaramac
Jun 4, 2013, 10:25 AM
I personally don't mind a standard controller. I use a Harmony in every room. Apple should partner or buy Harmony and come out with something awesome. Wasn't there rumors of Logitech selling off Harmony anyways??

MacRumorUser
Jun 4, 2013, 10:27 AM
Ahh, so you missed the Apple exec a month or so ago who was talking about the iRabbit? Combine that with the iWatch and you have a real iPolicemans paradise. :)[COLOR="#808080"]
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I saw a show in Thailand once where a ladyboy pulled an iWatch & iRabbit out of their iRing.

It's not the kind of magic act I want to see on TV :p

Smartass
Jun 4, 2013, 10:33 AM
One ring the control them all? Somebody's been watching too much lord of the rings.

Toe
Jun 4, 2013, 10:52 AM
Well, the TV was supposed to be something Steve Jobs was working on.

I cannot imagine Steve sanctioning something like this. I just keep getting this image of him turning purple, firing everyone in the division, and telling them they have great futures working for some "innovative" company like Microsoft.

mumph
Jun 4, 2013, 10:54 AM
Well, then the iRing (or iCondom, mentioned above) may be a great solution for you.:D

And the speakers taking 10 seconds to turn on and off...I feel your pain!:(

;) :D

My bro is moving out soon so I will go back to MY tv with built in speakers, one remote and only 40 or so buttons. Still need the sky remote, the DVD remote and the Apple TV remote but its still one less. lol.

Rocketman
Jun 4, 2013, 10:58 AM
Don't forget Apple was ready to release iTV two full years ago. It was the negotiations with content owners and network systems that bogged it down. By now the first release will include 3rd gen hardware and software.

We now know the source of the delay. Networks being asked for revenue sharing similar to phones. That model is consumer friendly, but requires considerable capital by the networks. This has shown up on financial disclosures by AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and others as "uses of capital".

Rocketman

raybo
Jun 4, 2013, 11:00 AM
Will Ringo sue Apple?

a0me
Jun 4, 2013, 11:04 AM
My brother has just bought a 50" LG TV with surround sound speakers. The TV does not operate without the speakers attached. There is a remote for the TV and one for the Speakers. Both have at least 60 buttons on them. To turn the TV on I have to pick up one remote (which looks exactly the same as the other) and press the button. Because they both look alike the speaker turns on and not the TV. So I pick up the other remote to now turn the TV on :rolleyes: So now the TV and the speakers are on I then have to pick up the Sky TV remote to turn on the Sky box and select a channel. If I want to change the volume I can no longer use the Sky remote I need to guess which of the two identical remotes to use. If I get it wrong the + and - will change the input channel. So to watch TV I need to be accompanied by 3 remotes and about 300 buttons.

Want to watch a DVD? 4 remotes 330 buttons.

Apple understands the stupidity of all the remotes etc. Their device, whatever it may be will be elegant. While an iRing sounds a bit gimmicky the less pissing around with remotes and thousands of buttons the better.

I would like to see a touchscreen remote with built in tv guide. slide up and down to view whats on, tap the program you want to watch.

EDIT: Oh and it takes 10 seconds for the speakers to turn on and off. Just because it says Goodbye doesnt make it better!

Same here, I have a remote for the TV, one for the AV amp/speakers, one for the PS3 and one for the Apple TV. Most people may have a Blu-Ray player instead of the PS3 and a cable box instead of the Apple TV, but I guess the vast majority of home have at least 4 or 5 remotes for their entertainment center.

newyorksole
Jun 4, 2013, 11:07 AM
Apple knows what they're doing. I think the TV will be a success.

WestonHarvey1
Jun 4, 2013, 11:12 AM
Anyone else have a sense of dread and embarrassment about this iTV impending colossal failure?!

It's not "impending". It doesn't even exist. Whatever Apple eventually releases will be nothing like any of these analysts or anyone here is describing.

Smartass
Jun 4, 2013, 11:13 AM
it will never be called iTV since iTV is already a worldwide known brand.

But one thing i dont know - what happens when this so called "iRing" is too small for your fat fingers? you cant watch the TV therefore have to go outside and lose weight so you can watch it?

carlgo
Jun 4, 2013, 11:22 AM
I think the iWatch is more likely than a ring and would be either an actual phone or act as an interface for a phone or other device that remains in your pocket or purse. Its little screen, along with Siri, is big enough to do anything other than surf complex web sites.

It is possible that Apple might offer a small pocket non-smart phone that simply acts as a housing for the antennas, batteries and other larger innards.

It would be amusing if it worked with Samsung phones...

Minimalistic apps and web sites would be developed to work with the little screen.

It could also work as a basic remote, although an iTV would come with a universal sort of hand held remote that would override the rings if it came down to that.

So, yes, people would wear a fashionable phone where they would not wear a nerdy computer. If the bezel was replaceable, there would be a big accessory market for different ones, and for straps. This would help drive sales I think.

enigma2118
Jun 4, 2013, 11:36 AM
My brother has just bought a 50" LG TV with surround sound speakers. The TV does not operate without the speakers attached. There is a remote for the TV and one for the Speakers. Both have at least 60 buttons on them. To turn the TV on I have to pick up one remote (which looks exactly the same as the other) and press the button. Because they both look alike the speaker turns on and not the TV. So I pick up the other remote to now turn the TV on :rolleyes: So now the TV and the speakers are on I then have to pick up the Sky TV remote to turn on the Sky box and select a channel. If I want to change the volume I can no longer use the Sky remote I need to guess which of the two identical remotes to use. If I get it wrong the + and - will change the input channel. So to watch TV I need to be accompanied by 3 remotes and about 300 buttons.

Want to watch a DVD? 4 remotes 330 buttons.

Apple understands the stupidity of all the remotes etc. Their device, whatever it may be will be elegant. While an iRing sounds a bit gimmicky the less pissing around with remotes and thousands of buttons the better.

I would like to see a touchscreen remote with built in tv guide. slide up and down to view whats on, tap the program you want to watch.

EDIT: Oh and it takes 10 seconds for the speakers to turn on and off. Just because it says Goodbye doesnt make it better!


Jared Spool just talked about this issue in his blog over at User Interface Engineering. Calls it Experience Rot - http://bit.ly/11zJ5Y9

Simplicated
Jun 4, 2013, 11:54 AM
Why does Apple always have trouble with these color coatings? Remember the rediculous delay of the white iPhone 4?

This time it's the analyst that says it's having trouble with color coatings. We don't even know if there's really a low-cost iPhone in the pipeline...

Porco
Jun 4, 2013, 11:54 AM
An iRing controlling an Apple Television?

I can't wait to watch Captain Planet on such a device!

http://i.imgur.com/hsFRIdK.jpg

"Let our powers combine!" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbW5sxyu9bU)

The power is yours! (Apple is done with 'power').

Mr Fusion
Jun 4, 2013, 12:00 PM
I want to vomit every time I see the photo of that horrid AppleTV interface. It's quite possibly the ugliest thing Apple has ever designed and released to the public. :cool:

lildimsum7
Jun 4, 2013, 12:05 PM
Analysts have no common sense. Why would anyone buy a new tv when they could get an htpc or xbox one that does the same things, but much cheaper? The ring control has got to be the stupidest idea yet

lildimsum7
Jun 4, 2013, 12:15 PM
My brother has just bought a 50" LG TV with surround sound speakers. The TV does not operate without the speakers attached. There is a remote for the TV and one for the Speakers. Both have at least 60 buttons on them. To turn the TV on I have to pick up one remote (which looks exactly the same as the other) and press the button. Because they both look alike the speaker turns on and not the TV. So I pick up the other remote to now turn the TV on :rolleyes: So now the TV and the speakers are on I then have to pick up the Sky TV remote to turn on the Sky box and select a channel. If I want to change the volume I can no longer use the Sky remote I need to guess which of the two identical remotes to use. If I get it wrong the + and - will change the input channel. So to watch TV I need to be accompanied by 3 remotes and about 300 buttons.

Want to watch a DVD? 4 remotes 330 buttons.

Apple understands the stupidity of all the remotes etc. Their device, whatever it may be will be elegant. While an iRing sounds a bit gimmicky the less pissing around with remotes and thousands of buttons the better.

I would like to see a touchscreen remote with built in tv guide. slide up and down to view whats on, tap the program you want to watch.

EDIT: Oh and it takes 10 seconds for the speakers to turn on and off. Just because it says Goodbye doesnt make it better!

so they're gonna copy xbox one? htpcs also make tv operation easier and has way more functions than something apple comes out with. lol, "surround sound speakers" attached to a tv? now that's a gimmick!

Iamjhil
Jun 4, 2013, 12:33 PM
Omg whats next, the iPad. que up the tampon jokes

charlituna
Jun 4, 2013, 12:35 PM
Couldn't call it that in the UK. ITV is one of the major broadcasters.

That has repeatedly preemptively announced they would sue Apple into bankruptcy if they even thought to call anything iTV

Personally I think the future Smart TV will be a dumb one. Take it back to the empty monitor that can handle both computer and tv uses, with HDMI etc. keep the smart in the STB so that it can be more readily updated. This to me is important because codecs etc may start taking off and that box will need to handle them.

Baklava
Jun 4, 2013, 12:40 PM
iRing... LOL !!!

dkb123
Jun 4, 2013, 12:53 PM
this reminds me of all the comments before the iphone ...

"everyone loves their QUERTY keyboard ... this is going to be a HUGE joke"

"what does Apple know about phones?"

"is everyone else waiting for the collosal Steve Jobs FAIL on his new phone?"

"RIM research shows that no one will buy a phone from Apple."

and on and on ...

lots of "I hate the iRing" when none of us even know what the *#@!@#* iRing IS.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on iTV and iWatch until I see it and confirm it's dumb ...

Personally I don't think I want to be making physical gestures to change channels. Having said that, I do know that the current cable TV service is incredibly bad. I use it because I have to ... kind of the way I used to use my QUERTY keyboard :)

Jeaz
Jun 4, 2013, 12:53 PM
Just bring the app store the Apple TV. That would completely revolutionize the industry.
Samsung and all the other TV manufacturers have tried but frankly their solutions are so poor it's a travesty.

Bring us an app store so HBO, Showtime, AMC and all the others can bring content using it. And Apple takes their usual 30% of all subscription fees.

iisdan
Jun 4, 2013, 01:13 PM
If it requires a wearable for controlling it, kinect will kick it's ass straight to failed device hell. this is a stupid rumor and needs to stop.

BobZap
Jun 4, 2013, 01:28 PM
Upon reading "Two months ago, Topeka Capital Markets analyst Brian White..."

ooooook...moving on to the next article

mazz0
Jun 4, 2013, 01:32 PM
That horrible remote control I have to use is so awful. I have to pick it up, and push a button or two.

What an incredible burden. Now wearing a ring I need to put on and take off every time I want to watch TV, wave my hand around, deal with the inevitable glitches, is a much better idea.

Or, instead of the oh-so-1980's remote...that big heavy, awful remote...I can have the incredible convenience of using my iPad. Now that's a major improvement.

And finally, I can use Siri. No problems there since Siri has been so precise in the past, and since it has to use Apple servers...well, I just can't believe what an improvement these dandy little gadgets will be over that awful remote I have to struggle with now.

Gimmick for gimmick sake? :confused:

I agree that motion and voice control are crap, but using the iPad to control the TV is great.

KazKam
Jun 4, 2013, 01:34 PM
In other news, some guy somewhere believes something.

charlituna
Jun 4, 2013, 01:43 PM
i would rather use a wii-mote like controller than put on a ring.

i would rather just pull up the Apple Remote app on my ipad and have it mirror the interface.

foodog
Jun 4, 2013, 01:51 PM
Ahh, so you missed the Apple exec a month or so ago who was talking about the iRabbit? Combine that with the iWatch and you have a real iPolicemans paradise. :)

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Couldn't call it that in the UK. ITV is one of the major broadcasters.

Sure they could.... The IOS name is a trademarked by Cisco, Apple came to an agreement with Cisco to use it, for a nice tidy sum I'm sure.

charlituna
Jun 4, 2013, 01:53 PM
I want to vomit every time I see the photo of that horrid AppleTV interface. It's quite possibly the ugliest thing Apple has ever designed and released to the public. :cool:

I suspect there has been uglier if we really looked.

My issue with this interface is that I don't see the point. It's running off a variant of iOS so why not use that interface. same icons, same controls, same stuff in the apps in the same way. If anything it would encourage folks to get an Apple TV because it's familiar

And then make the remote app just mirror the interface on an iDevice and it will be a breeze for folks to make the mental jump of what to look for. Because right now if you hit Music on an Apple TV you go to the store, not your music

HiRez
Jun 4, 2013, 02:14 PM
This is the closest thing to an Apple April Fools Day joke I have ever read that is apparently not actually an Apple April Fools Day joke.

iiechapman
Jun 4, 2013, 03:53 PM
I think if we stop thinking of "ring" as a wedding ring and think of what "ring" could be if we stopped limiting the definition. Imagine a small aluminum "ring" with an array of IR sensors , iSight cameras and microphones . This "ring" could be placed anywhere in proximity of the television and pickup any remote signal, and respond to any voice commands , and send any remote signal to control OTHER devices , the cameras could provide motion control in 3 dimensions or offer video chat over a tv FaceTime interface . The "ring" could have a speaker set in it and lights to indicate when a new show is on or play a notification sound when someone is asking to play against you in a game made for iTV. This sounds like a revolutionary new category of device and a solution to MANY problems.

OllyW
Jun 4, 2013, 04:01 PM
Sure they could.... The IOS name is a trademarked by Cisco, Apple came to an agreement with Cisco to use it, for a nice tidy sum I'm sure.

ITV is the name of the TV company, not one of it's products. Could you imagine the reaction if Apple tried to call it the CBS TV or Fox TV?

Do you think they would license their name "for a nice tidy sum"?

macs4nw
Jun 4, 2013, 06:47 PM
However, the possibility of an iCondom allowing one to control their TV with...Maybe not practical...:p:o And then there's the women's issue...

For them we have the iPad already, sorry couldn't resist.....

krravi
Jun 4, 2013, 07:12 PM
What a fantasy...

alternateroute
Jun 4, 2013, 07:45 PM
iTV. If you like it, then you should have put an iRing on it.:)

qpdbqp
Jun 4, 2013, 09:04 PM
iRing = iWatch = iCuff

It's the same wearable circular device.

senseless
Jun 4, 2013, 09:09 PM
My dog has an implanted chip. Can I train her to change channels?

demodave
Jun 4, 2013, 09:11 PM
Image (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/04/analyst-still-believes-apple-television-set-with-iring-motion-control-coming-late-this-year/)


Two months ago, Topeka Capital Markets analyst Brian White gained significant attention (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/03/analyst-claims-60-inch-itv-could-launch-in-late-2013-with-iring-motion-control-and-ipad-like-auxiliary-screens/) for his claims that Apple is targeting a late 2013 launch for its long-rumored television set. In his research note, White claimed that Apple has been working on a 60-inch television that will use an "iRing" motion controller as well as iPad-like auxiliary second screens.

In a new research note published today, White stands by his previous claims, continuing to believe that Apple is looking to service subsidies to help bring the upfront cost of the television set down.Such bundling may, however, be difficult given that customers frequently have different wireless carriers and cable or satellite television providers, although some providers such as Time Warner Cable and Verizon Wireless have teamed up to offer bundles of TV, Internet, home phone, and mobile phone service.

AT&T also does this, and it seems like a ridiculous oversight not to include them in this laundry list of players. I'm not an AT&T shill, but I am an AT&T customer, and for quite some time, I had my TV (then Dish), "land line" phone, Internet (DSL), *and* cell phone all on one bill. I will admit, I didn't love the Dish experience, but it was what AT&T was willing/able to provide at my street address. Since then, that address actually gets UVerse service, which I am really liking at my new street address. I have, however, unbudled my cellphone service (which is still AT&T) from my fixed address service (which is also still AT&T).

I'm not a shill, but I am (generally) quite well satisfied as a customer.

Image (http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/03/apple_tv_interface_2012.jpg)
White goes on to describe his vision for how the TV will be controlled:Finally, White believes that component production for Apple's rumored lower-cost iPhone will ramp up this month, setting the stage for a possible introduction as soon as next month. Most sources have, however, indicated that it will launch somewhat later, with KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo indicating (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/11/production-challenges-to-delay-launches-of-iphone-5s-lower-cost-iphone-and-new-ipad-mini/) that a launch in the August-October timeframe is most likely due to Apple's continued work on color coatings for the device's plastic shell.

Article Link: Analyst Still Believes Apple Television Set With 'iRing' Motion Control Coming Late This Year (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/04/analyst-still-believes-apple-television-set-with-iring-motion-control-coming-late-this-year/)

I hope this iRing thing is not like the BMW iDrive. I'm a Bimmer fan, but I have heard that the iDrive interface was miserable. I suppose that here I just thank god that I don't take much of anything that Brian White says seriously. I know he covers Apple and I know that he has statistically abnormal estimates for Apple's future share price, but does the fact that his estimates are statistically abnormal not possibly indicate that this guy is not to be take seriously?

DavidMarks
Jun 4, 2013, 10:38 PM
These people are crazy. You know what I think they should do?

Upgrade the Apple Remote with a gyro, motion recognition, a mic, and a Siri button. Done. And it's also compatible with Macs, so it's automatically a 3rd wireless input device, just like the Wireless Keyboard and the Magic Mouse.

It's way more comfortable, ergonomic, doesn't get lost like a ring and it's not stupid.

Why think of weird stuff when the basis is already there?


caligomez
Jun 4, 2013, 11:30 PM
Someone who is going to be disappointed..

captain kaos
Jun 5, 2013, 03:08 AM
It won't be controlled with an "iring" i believe it'll be controlled with the iwatch. I read the watch won't be around until the beginning of next year, perhaps this is when the iTV will come along as well?

mumph
Jun 5, 2013, 03:34 AM
Jared Spool just talked about this issue in his blog over at User Interface Engineering. Calls it Experience Rot - http://bit.ly/11zJ5Y9

Nice post. I"m a designer so I know all about that. :)

Such a cliché but less is more. Why have 50 buttons when 5 or six can do the same functions?

SockRolid
Jun 5, 2013, 11:35 AM
... analyst Brian White gained significant attention for his claims that Apple is ...

That's pretty much everything you need to know about analysts.

foodog
Jun 5, 2013, 12:36 PM
ITV is the name of the TV company, not one of it's products. Could you imagine the reaction if Apple tried to call it the CBS TV or Fox TV?

Do you think they would license their name "for a nice tidy sum"?

No kidding Captain Obvious... and Yes I do for the right amount.