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johnnnw
Jun 5, 2013, 08:19 AM
Plexconnect was released, allowing people to use the awesome Plex system with their NOT JAILBROKEN Apple TV 2 and 3's.

Anyone installed this yet? Is it working good?
http://elan.plexapp.com/2013/06/04/introducing-plexconnect-an-appletv-client-which-thinks-different/

This is obviously a big deal for ATV3 users as they couldn't be jailbroken even if you wanted to.



mic j
Jun 5, 2013, 10:59 AM
I'm surprised there hasn't been more excitement about this on the forum. Seems like adding Plex capability to an aTV3 would be a big deal to a lot of people.

Or is it that we have all gone ahead and converted our discs to mp4 and no longer have a need for Plex?

Che Castro
Jun 5, 2013, 11:15 AM
I'm surprised there hasn't been more excitement about this on the forum. Seems like adding Plex capability to an aTV3 would be a big deal to a lot of people.

Or is it that we have all gone ahead and converted our discs to mp4 and no longer have a need for Plex?

I went ahead and muxed all my mkv movies using iflicks

But I could of used this a few months back

jmcgeejr
Jun 5, 2013, 11:16 AM
Plexconnect was released, allowing people to use the awesome Plex system with their NOT JAILBROKEN Apple TV 2 and 3's.

Anyone installed this yet? Is it working good?
http://elan.plexapp.com/2013/06/04/introducing-plexconnect-an-appletv-client-which-thinks-different/

This is obviously a big deal for ATV3 users as they couldn't be jailbroken even if you wanted to.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1590040

and

http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/forum/136-appletv-plexconnect/

Tons of great results, myself included.

mic j
Jun 5, 2013, 11:28 AM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1590040

and

http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/forum/136-appletv-plexconnect/

Tons of great results, myself included.
1) Does PlexConnect support full surround audio (DD5.1, DTS, and HD versions of those)?

2) Does it support VOB/PGS subtitles?

jmcgeejr
Jun 5, 2013, 11:42 AM
1) Does PlexConnect support full surround audio (DD5.1, DTS, and HD versions of those)?

2) Does it support VOB/PGS subtitles?

With a plexpass account and the latest version of pms .27 it will convert all surround sound into DD which the atv supports. I dont know about the subtitles question tbh.

mic j
Jun 5, 2013, 11:44 AM
With a plexpass account and the latest version of pms .27 it will convert all surround sound into DD which the atv supports. I dont know about the subtitles question tbh.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't really thinking clearly. I should have known the audio would have to be converted to DD because of the aTV limitations. :o

towg
Jun 5, 2013, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know if I have to mux all my movies to MP4 or can it transcode mkvs and avis?

jmcgeejr
Jun 5, 2013, 12:26 PM
Does anyone know if I have to mux all my movies to MP4 or can it transcode mkvs and avis?

It will transcode them

towg
Jun 5, 2013, 01:20 PM
It will transcode them

Ok Many thanks. I'll give it a go and report back later.

UKBeast
Jun 5, 2013, 02:43 PM
I could not succeed to make this work,

it does work for online channels but does not play local media on my mac.

Can i play avi files on my mac through plex ? i do not want to bump up fan speed

towg
Jun 6, 2013, 03:09 AM
I couldnt get it to work.

My IP address is a different number of digits to the format on the Apple TV.

Dalton63841
Jun 6, 2013, 03:20 AM
It will transcode them
TO be completely clear, the AppleTV is doing nothing but showing what is being redirected to it. The Plex Media Server does the transcoding, just as it always did.
I could not succeed to make this work,

it does work for online channels but does not play local media on my mac.

Can i play avi files on my mac through plex ? i do not want to bump up fan speed
In the PlexConnect settings on the AppleTV there is an option to "Force Transcode". That would most likely need to be set to play AVI's.
I couldnt get it to work.

My IP address is a different number of digits to the format on the Apple TV.

All IPv4 addresses are 4 groups of digits. On the Apple TV it just gives you extra digits in each group, so for instance an IP address of 10.0.1.1 would be entered as 010.000.001.001 on the Apple TV.

institute
Jun 6, 2013, 05:09 AM
I have played Avi files on Plexconnect without the force transcode setting.

charlien
Jun 6, 2013, 02:34 PM
I am blown away at how well this works. I like seeing my TV series grouped rather than by season. Tried the Amazon Instant video channel and couldn't get it to work.

towg
Jun 7, 2013, 10:30 AM
TO be completely clear, the AppleTV is doing nothing but showing what is being redirected to it. The Plex Media Server does the transcoding, just as it always did.

In the PlexConnect settings on the AppleTV there is an option to "Force Transcode". That would most likely need to be set to play AVI's.


All IPv4 addresses are 4 groups of digits. On the Apple TV it just gives you extra digits in each group, so for instance an IP address of 10.0.1.1 would be entered as 010.000.001.001 on the Apple TV.

I see. Many thanks - I'll give it another shot.

mic j
Jun 7, 2013, 10:35 AM
PlexConnect transcodes on-the-fly to an aTV compatible format (mp4) and DTS to DD5.1. Which also means no HD audio as that is still an aTV limitation. Can someone please explain the excitement about this? Why would I want to do on-the-fly transcoding vs manual transcoding? How does on-the-fly transcoding quality compare to manual transcoding (video and audio)?

And don't get me wrong, I use to use Plex. But I used it with my MBP wired to my TV/AVR system so I could play non-transcoded mkv ripped from BRs.

I mean, it's cool that someone was clever enough to hack the system to get Plex to be available but if it doesn't give you the ability to play the non-transcoded files in your library, is it really that important?

jmcgeejr
Jun 7, 2013, 10:51 AM
PlexConnect transcodes on-the-fly to an aTV compatible format (mp4) and DTS to DD5.1. Which also means no HD audio as that is still an aTV limitation. Can someone please explain the excitement about this? Why would I want to do on-the-fly transcoding vs manual transcoding? How does on-the-fly transcoding quality compare to manual transcoding (video and audio)?

And don't get me wrong, I use to use Plex. But I used it with my MBP wired to my TV/AVR system so I could play non-transcoded mkv ripped from BRs.

I mean, it's cool that someone was clever enough to hack the system to get Plex to be available but if it doesn't give you the ability to play the non-transcoded files in your library, is it really that important?

There are two different types of transcoding, there is the actual transcode that changes the video bitrate and resolution and then there is just a container change which doesnt change anything. With the atv3 and plex connect if you have a 1080p mkv with 5.1 DTS audio, plex does nothing to the h.264 video inside and instead converts it on the fly to an mp4 container so the video quality has no change (as long as it's 4.1 level or lower) and for the audio that just gets muxed into a 5.1 DD package.

pwfletcher
Jun 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
I have quit waiting for the ATV3 jailbreak and now use Videostation on my Synology NAS to stream to my ATV3 via Airplay. It works flawlessly for all file formats and uses the NAS processor instead of my computer's.

mic j
Jun 7, 2013, 12:37 PM
There are two different types of transcoding, there is the actual transcode that changes the video bitrate and resolution and then there is just a container change which doesnt change anything. With the atv3 and plex connect if you have a 1080p mkv with 5.1 DTS audio, plex does nothing to the h.264 video inside and instead converts it on the fly to an mp4 container so the video quality has no change (as long as it's 4.1 level or lower) and for the audio that just gets muxed into a 5.1 DD package.
That's interesting info. So it's more of a on-the-fly remux to mp4 than a on-the-fly transcode to mp4, as long as your source material is already h.264? Correct? How does it work for the small percentage of BR's that are VC-1? Also, for mpeg2 sources, does it do the actual on-the-fly transcode to mp4? Can it do that smoothly if you don't have a multi-core MBP? I found that on-the-fly transcode of movies by AirParrot to be of poor quality (studdery motion) and you could cook breakfast on my 2008 MBP. I have read where it worked better with multi-core MBP's.

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm really trying to understand (and think others might be interested in a deeper understanding) of what the capability of the hack is before I go messing with a setup that runs pretty smoothly.

jmcgeejr
Jun 7, 2013, 12:56 PM
That's interesting info. So it's more of a on-the-fly remux to mp4 than a on-the-fly transcode to mp4, as long as your source material is already h.264? Correct? How does it work for the small percentage of BR's that are VC-1? Also, for mpeg2 sources, does it do the actual on-the-fly transcode to mp4? Can it do that smoothly if you don't have a multi-core MBP? I found that on-the-fly transcode of movies by AirParrot to be of poor quality (studdery motion) and you could cook breakfast on my 2008 MBP. I have read where it worked better with multi-core MBP's.

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm really trying to understand (and think others might be interested in a deeper understanding) of what the capability of the hack is before I go messing with a setup that runs pretty smoothly.

MP2 as well as VC-1 media will require a full on conversion to be able to stream to that atv, that's a big media change and is a full on transcoding of the video versus just a container change. For anything that requires a full transcode conversion you will get better results with faster cpus with more cores, that's just something that has always been for media.

smellalot
Jun 7, 2013, 12:58 PM
PlexConnect transcodes on-the-fly to an aTV compatible format (mp4) and DTS to DD5.1. Which also means no HD audio as that is still an aTV limitation. Can someone please explain the excitement about this? Why would I want to do on-the-fly transcoding vs manual transcoding?

I can! With On-the-fly transcoding/remuxing I can start watching right away. I don't need to take care of the files myself. I don't care which file format they are - Plex takes care of everything for me. With iTunes home sharing I need to add metadata to files. Plex also does this for me.
Oh, I have one more: plex's on-the-fly conversion runs slower than straight conversion so the fans barely outpace 2000 rpm.

jmcgeejr
Jun 7, 2013, 01:00 PM
I can! With On-the-fly transcoding/remuxing I can start watching right away. I don't need to take care of the files myself. I don't care which file format they are - Plex takes care of everything for me. With iTunes home sharing I need to add metadata to files. Plex also does this for me.
Oh, I have one more: plex's on-the-fly conversion runs slower than straight conversion so the fans barely outpace 2000 rpm.

THe reason your fans dont kick in is because plex converts the video in batches, it used to just convert the whole thing so it would saturate your cpu until it was done, now it just does it in small clips.

smellalot
Jun 7, 2013, 01:02 PM
THe reason your fans dont kick in is because plex converts the video in batches, it used to just convert the whole thing so it would saturate your cpu until it was done, now it just does it in small clips.

Yes, that's what I meant to say. And I think it's great. Plex is just great!

Nutdotnet
Jun 7, 2013, 01:14 PM
I have quit waiting for the ATV3 jailbreak and now use Videostation on my Synology NAS to stream to my ATV3 via Airplay. It works flawlessly for all file formats and uses the NAS processor instead of my computer's.

What does this have to do with Plex Connect?

Sgtarky
Jun 7, 2013, 01:40 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been more excitement about this on the forum. Seems like adding Plex capability to an aTV3 would be a big deal to a lot of people.

Or is it that we have all gone ahead and converted our discs to mp4 and no longer have a need for Plex?

its a big deal to me , I need to try it to see if it works, I was just about to decommission my atv3 and using my roku, got sick of dealing with iTunes. I was going to start a thread about how I cant put any movies on iTunes, yes I have done it before, I get no errors it just never shows up. anyway If this works screw the itunes crap

Sgtarky
Jun 7, 2013, 01:53 PM
the article is not big into the howto tho, itis as if oh you already know how to do it, like is that plexconnect installed on the at3? if so HOW they just say to run scripts

mic j
Jun 7, 2013, 01:59 PM
the article is not big into the howto tho, itis as if oh you already know how to do it, like is that plexconnect installed on the at3? if so HOW they just say to run scripts
They say it's in the early stage and there will probably be an installer developed later on that will make installation easier. Let's give them some slack so they can spend their time developing the system. If you don't know how to run the scripts at this point, you probably shouldn't be doing it. JMHO

roidy
Jun 7, 2013, 02:35 PM
the article is not big into the howto tho, itis as if oh you already know how to do it, like is that plexconnect installed on the at3? if so HOW they just say to run scripts

We're still in early development at the moment, however there are instructions on the github wiki (https://github.com/iBaa/PlexConnect/wiki).

brettO5
Jun 7, 2013, 09:33 PM
Has anyone found an idiots guide (for me) to installing Plex Connect on ATV2 without jailbreak? I'd love to get this working if anyone can help please.

Cheers, Brett

jmcgeejr
Jun 7, 2013, 09:34 PM
Has anyone found an idiots guide (for me) to installing Plex Connect on ATV2 without jailbreak? I'd love to get this working if anyone can help please.

Cheers, Brett

Brett the wiki is pretty straight forward and detailed, however give me some info on your setup and I will do my best to see if I can dumb it down some more for ya.

brettO5
Jun 7, 2013, 10:12 PM
Brett the wiki is pretty straight forward and detailed, however give me some info on your setup and I will do my best to see if I can dumb it down some more for ya.

Thanks mate, that would be fantastic. I've got an ATV2 fully updated and non-jailbroken connect via ethernet to a mac mini which I use an an itunes server. ATV is obviously connected via HDMI to my TV.
Is this what you needed?

Cheers, Brett

jmcgeejr
Jun 7, 2013, 10:30 PM
Thanks mate, that would be fantastic. I've got an ATV2 fully updated and non-jailbroken connect via ethernet to a mac mini which I use an an itunes server. ATV is obviously connected via HDMI to my TV.
Is this what you needed?

Cheers, Brett

So you have plex server installed on the mini?

brettO5
Jun 7, 2013, 11:02 PM
So you have plex server installed on the mini?

Yes, sorry. I do have plex server installed on the mini.

towg
Jun 8, 2013, 04:01 AM
I installed it and followed the instructions to the letter but just get 'The Plex Server could not be contacted'.

I have an exception in Windows Firewall too.

Tried it on my macbook also but that didnt work either.

institute
Jun 8, 2013, 06:25 AM
Your best bet is to head over to the Plex forum on Plexconnect and troubleshoot there. Make sure you read the sticky on what info to provide when requesting assistance. They are very quick and friendly.

scapegoat81
Jun 8, 2013, 06:47 AM
I'm surprised there hasn't been more excitement about this on the forum. Seems like adding Plex capability to an aTV3 would be a big deal to a lot of people.

Or is it that we have all gone ahead and converted our discs to mp4 and no longer have a need for Plex?

Excited as hell. Just waiting for the next gen of iOS hardware to come out & I'm jumping all over this (need a better aspect ratio for AirPlay). Not due for an upgrade til August. :D

IlikeMacsSoMuch
Jun 8, 2013, 09:11 AM
Great for Plex, I will certainly try it. But I got a question: I have a lot of movies and TV shows bought on iTunes, if I put them in the Plex library, will they work on the :apple:TV? Those videos are registered on my iTunes account, so they are legit. I would just like to find a way to serve them to my :apple:TV without having iTunes running. Anyone tried that?:confused:

Because we are five at home and each of us has a laptop, plus I also have an iMac which serves as an iTunes server for the :apple:TV. So my elder son's laptop can't share the iTunes library. (limit of 5 computers per account). For it doesn't matter since he has a PC but he would like to change it for a Mac and we only use the iMac as a server so it could go or at least not be one the five.

SandboxGeneral
Jun 8, 2013, 09:12 AM
Please continue discussion in our news story thread:

Plex Releases Client for Non-Jailbroken Apple TVs (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1591134)