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Nov 2, 2005, 05:13 PM
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Now available via Software Update:
This update fixes reliability and resolves AirPort compatibility issues with certain third party 802.11 cards and access points for Mac OS X v10.4.3 and later.
yg17
Nov 2, 2005, 05:16 PM
what exactly does this fix anyways?
Nermal
Nov 2, 2005, 05:17 PM
The update is 1.4 MB and requires a restart. Apple's being cryptic (as usual) when it comes to determining what this update actually does. I haven't even figured out whether it's an update for software, AirPort card firmware, or base station firmware!
JDOG_
Nov 2, 2005, 05:17 PM
Cool...
Maybe this will fix my dodgy airport connection with my iBook. It's been super buddy since 10.4.3
TheMonarch
Nov 2, 2005, 05:20 PM
Should I update if everything works? I'm afraid to screw it up... My lynksys & Airport express are working in perfect harmony right now (I'm browsing the web and streaming music as I type)...
mfacey
Nov 2, 2005, 05:25 PM
I hope this fixes the lousy airport reliability I've been having recently. Fingers crossed!
karellen
Nov 2, 2005, 05:27 PM
ARGHH
My airport card in my Powerbook is now not working.
It says I have no Airport card at all!!
Help!!??
denial
Nov 2, 2005, 05:31 PM
Be careful with this update. It took an inordinate amount of time to reboot.
dombi
Nov 2, 2005, 05:31 PM
No problems here (with the update). I am not sure, but it seems that the signal strength improved... maybe someone else can confirm this.
MikeGA
Nov 2, 2005, 05:32 PM
ARGHH
My airport card in my Powerbook is now not working.
It says I have no Airport card at all!!
Help!!??
Exactly, I'm slightly worried that this update could mess things up for me.
I suggest you maybe try a restart. If that doesn't fix the issue, then I don't really know what to suggest. Maybe re-install 10.4.3 using the combo updater?
karellen
Nov 2, 2005, 05:35 PM
Already done a restart and reset the PMU thing.
It says: "No Airport Hardware found"
mistabaka
Nov 2, 2005, 05:36 PM
Updated about 30 Mins ago and all is well. Haven't really noticed any difference yet.
Edit: My Airport Is And Has Worked Well Before And After This Update
mfacey
Nov 2, 2005, 05:37 PM
My reboot didn't run smoothly.
After waiting quite a few minutes on the Apple logo screen it went to blue and just stayed there. I waited a few minutes, didn't hear any disk activity and then opted for a manual shutdown using the power bottom. Seems to work fine now though.
If you're not having any problems with airport, stay away!:confused:
aricher
Nov 2, 2005, 05:39 PM
hmmm - installed rebooted - took awhile. Airport running smoothly but Bluetooth isn't recognized. Uh Oh.
rosalindavenue
Nov 2, 2005, 05:43 PM
The bluetooth icon on my menubar disappeared on Monday when I installed the 10.4.3. update-- haven't seen it since, even when I adjusted system prefs. I dont use bluetooth now, do I guess its no big deal.:confused:
Jesus
Nov 2, 2005, 05:46 PM
I think I'll try to avoid getting my finger prints all over this provernial train-wreck.
Jesus
Montserrat
Nov 2, 2005, 05:46 PM
Already done a restart and reset the PMU thing.
It says: "No Airport Hardware found"
Ok here's a few things to try - they may or may not work, and some of them may have already been suggested (my (wired!) network is sooooo slow today)
1. Switch off computer.
2. REmove and reinsert Airport Card (Clean connection).
3. Try Restart.
4. Zap NVRAM (Restart and hold option-command-O-F then type reset-nvram (enter) Then type reset-all)
Hope that has some effect
btw. Also try a permissions repair...
mad jew
Nov 2, 2005, 05:47 PM
As others have said, it took ages to reboot afterwards, I thought something was wrong. Meh, it's working now. I haven't noticed any benefits yet, it's very subtle of Apple.
Dagless
Nov 2, 2005, 05:49 PM
Whoa this all sounds very dangerous!
I've had terrible problems with Airport since 10.4.3. the reception seems lower than normal. oh well, the update icon is bouncing so it must have downloaded. here i go!
AlmightyG5
Nov 2, 2005, 05:52 PM
mybe my PSP will connect to my airport now.... I can't get it to
Judging by the picture on the description page (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/airportupdate2005001.html), it sure looks like this is a basestation update. however, under system requirements, it lists "Mac OS X 10.4.3 or later and AirPort Extreme Card" which implies that it is an airport card update.
I just ran it on my iMac G5 (which has no Airport), and it did install... but it didn't change the Airport Admin Utility, nor does that utility offer any updates to my basestations.
So I guess it is a card update. As best as I can tell, it is for compatibility with AP cards under 10.4.3 and some 3rd party wifi stuff.
mad jew
Nov 2, 2005, 05:55 PM
It's a card update, not a base station update. :)
Whistleway
Nov 2, 2005, 05:57 PM
It took a while to reboot and it work so far. No difference that i can notice.
Ashapalan
Nov 2, 2005, 05:58 PM
i use a belkin router and occasionally a webpage will just be unaccesable.
I'm hoping that this will be the one...
While we're on the subject of airports... if you're using one, be sure to use WPA.
WEP can be broken in THREE MINUTES (http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php). Not kidding. WPA, on the other hand, is secure.
treblah
Nov 2, 2005, 06:00 PM
Judging by the picture on the description page (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/airportupdate2005001.html), it sure looks like this is a basestation update. however, under system requirements, it lists "Mac OS X 10.4.3 or later and AirPort Extreme Card" which implies that it is an airport card update.
I just ran it on my iMac G5 (which has no Airport), and it did install... but it didn't change the Airport Admin Utility, nor does that utility offer any updates to my basestations.
So I guess it is a card update. As best as I can tell, it is for compatibility with AP cards under 10.4.3 and some 3rd party wifi stuff.
Software Update showed the update but it wasn't ticked.
Installed fine on my old iBook with the original (802.11b) AP card.
Also, you think they could have waited a few hours or so and rolled this into 10.4.3? You know, for all the uptime nazis out there.
kasei
Nov 2, 2005, 06:02 PM
I was worried about the long boot, but it did the same thing after I updated to 10.4.3 My signal strength has gone up since this update. I will know tomorrow when I go to the office. There are several wireless access points, but the signals are so low I can't connect to them.
Dagless
Nov 2, 2005, 06:02 PM
how queer! everything is fine for me here, infact my airport reception has been boosted. on the taskbar icon I have 3 black bars and on the 'internet connection/airport' screen i'm getting 8/15 blue light things! usually I get 2 black bars on my taskbar and an alternating blue light rating of 2-5.
nice one!
Bluetooth is fine too. Boot up took a little longer than normal. but nothing more dramatic than that for me!
Dagless
Nov 2, 2005, 06:05 PM
While we're on the subject of airports... if you're using one, be sure to use WPA.
WEP can be broken in THREE MINUTES (http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php). Not kidding. WPA, on the other hand, is secure.
I have no security but the router is in the middle of the house, which is in the middle of a field and my neighbours are pretty much on the horizon. long live rural living! seriously, im at the furthest possible point away from the router whilst still indoors and my signal is far from good. plus there's metal sheets in the walls. I cant get a signal at all in the gardens!
valkraider
Nov 2, 2005, 06:06 PM
Apple is pissing everybody off with all these crappy updates!
Yeah, you're right.
I would just rather be using OS X 10.0.4. It was perfect.
I hate when they go and improve things, and add features, and fix bugs. That just pisses me off.
And just an FYI:
A minority of the comment readers applying this update are having problems.
And the readers of MacRumors comments are a minority of MacRumors readers in general.
And the MacRumors readers are a minority of the active Apple oriented internet community.
And the active Apple Internet Community is a minority of the Apple users on the internet.
And the Apple owners are a minority of the Computer users.
So your definition of "everybody" might be a bit small....
Dokter_Mac
Nov 2, 2005, 06:27 PM
Already done a restart and reset the PMU thing.
It says: "No Airport Hardware found"
Try a Safe Boot , restart and hold your shift-key.(Until you come to the loginscreen).Login and then restart normal.
briand05
Nov 2, 2005, 06:27 PM
No problems here, seems that my airport reception is better.
guerro
Nov 2, 2005, 06:40 PM
Doesn't even show up in Software Update for me.
aprilfools
Nov 2, 2005, 06:56 PM
I did the 10.4.3 update yesterday on my iMac G5 rev B. I had no problems. I also did the airport update right now. no prob with that either however........ an unusually long start up after the restart. I do wonder why Apple could not have inluded this in the 10.4.3 update unless the 10.4.3 update did infact screw things up for alot of Tiger users. I bet most probs are because lots of you have extra stuff in your macs. Extra stuff that you like but that you don't really need. Hey I'm all for third party development but most of that crap does more damage than good in your computer. You have lots of it in your computer and than complain when Apple OS gets updated and than you blame it on Apple. Lets face it. You don't really need all that extra third party crap you keep downloading because you think it makes your computer work better. I am right and you know it.
The biggest joke is those of you that don't actually own the brand new iMac (iSight) but figure out how to get a hold of Photobooth or Front Row. But.... but..... than you discover they don't work too good in your Mac. Hello?? Anybody home?? Apple doesn't support that on any Mac but the new iMac at this time. You should know that. Hello? Anybody home? Stop downloading all the third party crap and stop blamming Apple when things go wrong with your computer when Apple releases OS updates.
BrandonKea
Nov 2, 2005, 06:59 PM
I had a long reboot after the OSX update, but no problems with the Airport update. Hope all stays well.
cepler
Nov 2, 2005, 07:12 PM
I had a long reboot after the OSX update, but no problems with the Airport update. Hope all stays well.
Not sure why people think these long reboot times are odd, it's obvious that the OS will need to update files that are otherwise in use during a normal restart and thus do this prior to loading the UI components. A long startup for updates is probably quite common and normal. (I'm new to MacOS but have been a long-time Linux user since it's inception as well as Windows) I wouldn't stress about long start-up times after an update, I'd expect them and know my system was probably hard at work updating libraries etc. Turn on verbose output when booting so you can see what might be going on rather than staring at a spinny circle thingie...
danielsan26
Nov 2, 2005, 07:30 PM
Installed. No extra long boot here and no problems, unless you count being able to get on a friend's 2wire (blech) WPA encrypted router that I previously couldn't join a problem. I don't know if I'm better off or not being able to join that wretched brand's router or not.
roosta
Nov 2, 2005, 07:36 PM
did anybody who doesn't have a dotmac account get backup 3 included in this latest software update?
SilentPanda
Nov 2, 2005, 07:37 PM
mybe my PSP will connect to my airport now.... I can't get it to
Downgrade your firmware to 5.5.1. That should fix it for you. For now.
sstanhill
Nov 2, 2005, 07:39 PM
Installed fine, I get better reception. I have a 1 GHz iBook. Longer boot time, but what's the big deal? Apple's not going to be like "okay, here guys, here's an update" and then think "oh crap - did we forget to make it so it would restart?" Seriously.
slimflem
Nov 2, 2005, 08:17 PM
I did the 10.4.3 update yesterday on my iMac G5 rev B. I had no problems. I also did the airport update right now. no prob with that either however........ an unusually long start up after the restart. I do wonder why Apple could not have inluded this in the 10.4.3 update unless the 10.4.3 update did infact screw things up for alot of Tiger users. I bet most probs are because lots of you have extra stuff in your macs. Extra stuff that you like but that you don't really need. Hey I'm all for third party development but most of that crap does more damage than good in your computer. You have lots of it in your computer and than complain when Apple OS gets updated and than you blame it on Apple. Lets face it. You don't really need all that extra third party crap you keep downloading because you think it makes your computer work better. I am right and you know it.
The biggest joke is those of you that don't actually own the brand new iMac (iSight) but figure out how to get a hold of Photobooth or Front Row. But.... but..... than you discover they don't work too good in your Mac. Hello?? Anybody home?? Apple doesn't support that on any Mac but the new iMac at this time. You should know that. Hello? Anybody home? Stop downloading all the third party crap and stop blamming Apple when things go wrong with your computer when Apple releases OS updates.
Yo! you nailed it. I keep my PowerBook clean and free from most all of those add-on, haxies, Dock hacking, Menu Bar hacking, installing these strange OS-level skins, etc, etc,...that crud will just cause you grief at OS update time. Why? It clutters your system with goo and does stuff its not supposed to do. Yes, there are lots of respectable progs out there that try their hardest to do the right thing, but when you install so much extra stuff and uninstall, reinstall, install, uninstall, mod, hack this, hack that, you are almost asking for something to go off-track some during a big OS update. Keep it as clean as possible.
I love the fact that Apple makes those harder decisions sometimes to move the technology ahead and make changes/improvements to the OS that will possibly break some 3rd-party software, or even some of their own for a short period. It just makes things better in the end. They even take this approach to the kernel programming. They have the KPI which basicallly provides a versioned, abstracted view of the kernel api's over the last several revisions with each revision being rolled towards being not supported. So once the KPI rolls thru several revisions and you haven't taken the last several chances to get your software udpated, then its the 3rd-party's fault, not Apple's. That was just an example, but the same principal applies to higher-level stuff too. Unlike Windows, which tries to maintain backwards compat for everything under the sun for its entire existence, OS X does not become so bloated with so much stuff to manage and deal with and risk causing problems.
jwp1964
Nov 2, 2005, 08:21 PM
I installed the airport update and my wireless connections are weaker (less bars) and slower???
macomposer
Nov 2, 2005, 08:25 PM
Be careful with this update. It took an inordinate amount of time to reboot.
Same here.
iSaint
Nov 2, 2005, 08:49 PM
Just updated...all's fine here!
My Yute
Nov 2, 2005, 08:52 PM
There was a problem w/ the mid 2005 ibooks (and then later on the late 2005 powerbooks) where if someone were using more than 1 gb of ram under heavy network usage the card will fail. This update fixes it, so that's probably the primary reason for releasing the update. It may fix other things tho.
iZoom P5
Nov 2, 2005, 09:01 PM
Still undecided on whether to install the update or not. I'm running a Rev A. iMac G5 and since I've updated to Tiger 10.4.0 (10.3.8 was flawless) everytime I put my computer to sleep, I lose my airport connection and won't get it back until I restart. It recognizes my network in the menu bar, but when I click on it I get the famous "There was an error connecting to this wireless network" or something like that. In addition, I would only ever get 1-2 bars on the menu bar reguarly, having 3 would be pushing it.
Luckily, since I've updated to 10.4.3, in addition the to increased responsiveness, Airport's signal is up to 3-4 bars normally BUT I still can't put my computer to sleep without losing the network.
Any comments, questions or concerns? I'm going to wait for some more feedback before updating.
tiny bubbles
Nov 2, 2005, 09:35 PM
I can't believe the differance.:)
mgr1047
Nov 2, 2005, 09:38 PM
Now when I start up my Powerbook, I get a screen that states (in every language):
"unable to find driver for this platform"
"you need to restart your computer. Hold down Power"
"no debugger configured - dumping debug information"
"latest stack bactrace for cpu 0"
"proceeding back via exception chain"
"kernal version: darwin kernel version 8.3.0:
"panic: we are hanging here..."
I have restarted about 10 times and keep getting the same message.
Anybody else having a similar problem?
joker2
Nov 2, 2005, 10:27 PM
All is fine here. Rev. B 12" PowerBook (DVI). Consistently getting full strength signal bars now. It was better after July's update, and now is finally consistent.
sirron
Nov 2, 2005, 10:46 PM
This update killed my Wacom Tablet and reset all my Mighty Mouse settings. Wacom will NOT re-install, so I had to go back to using my Apple mouse AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!:( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :mad: :mad:
cepler
Nov 2, 2005, 10:52 PM
I finally got home to test my wireless with ALL of my major apps loaded (250 meg free out of 2 gig) and kept a ping running while I launched. Wireless kept responding very nicely with no dropped pings and respectable 20-30ms ping times which is appropriate for the server I was pinging. Prior to doing this update I would get 300-500ms pings and a lot of dropped pings.
W00T! Glad to see this fixed and only 1 day after I learn about it ;)
http://www.epler.net/heavy-load-fixed1.jpg
http://www.epler.net/heavy-load-fixed2.jpg
budugu
Nov 2, 2005, 10:58 PM
I love the fact that Apple makes those harder decisions sometimes to move the technology ahead and make changes/improvements to the OS that will possibly break some 3rd-party software, or even some of their own for a short period. It just makes things better in the end. They even take this approach to the kernel programming. They have the KPI which basicallly provides a versioned, abstracted view of the kernel api's over the last several revisions with each revision being rolled towards being not supported. So once the KPI rolls thru several revisions and you haven't taken the last several chances to get your software udpated, then its the 3rd-party's fault, not Apple's. That was just an example, but the same principal applies to higher-level stuff too. Unlike Windows, which tries to maintain backwards compat for everything under the sun for its entire existence, OS X does not become so bloated with so much stuff to manage and deal with and risk causing problems.
It is because you use nothing more than your web browser and mail. It is extremely painful if you are in any other environment. I understand the point of not bloating your systems with junk that you are not going to use but let me tell you that backward compatibility is what runs the enterprise, education and any large scale sector. And Mac installs/updates are far more heavier than windows. Third party stuff fails because apple changes stuff whenever they want.
rwclark
Nov 2, 2005, 11:08 PM
The bluetooth icon on my menubar disappeared on Monday when I installed the 10.4.3. update-- haven't seen it since, even when I adjusted system prefs. I dont use bluetooth now, do I guess its no big deal.:confused:
I also had the bluetooth icon disappear after installing the 10.4.3 update. Toggling it on and off in the system preference pane made it come back though.
WeBleed4Real
Nov 2, 2005, 11:13 PM
While we're on the subject of airports... if you're using one, be sure to use WPA.
WEP can be broken in THREE MINUTES (http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php). Not kidding. WPA, on the other hand, is secure.
I have an old 802.11b Airport card. There are two WPA settings. There's a WPA1 and WPA2. I've never been able to connect to a WPA2 encryption, so I've heard to stick with WPA1.
RHMMMM
Nov 2, 2005, 11:28 PM
I finally got home to test my wireless with ALL of my major apps loaded (250 meg free out of 2 gig) and kept a ping running while I launched. Wireless kept responding very nicely with no dropped pings and respectable 20-30ms ping times which is appropriate for the server I was pinging. Prior to doing this update I would get 300-500ms pings and a lot of dropped pings.
W00T! Glad to see this fixed and only 1 day after I learn about it ;)
http://www.epler.net/heavy-load-fixed1.jpg
http://www.epler.net/heavy-load-fixed2.jpg
THANK GOD
Eidorian
Nov 2, 2005, 11:30 PM
I had to fight a little to get my Bluetooth icon back. I don't know how my Airport reception was altered though.
artifex
Nov 3, 2005, 12:28 AM
Okay, I know this is only tangentially related, but are there any 802.11b or g dongles supported by OSX? I don't want to pay Apple for a special card to stick in my Rev A mini. I have already learned that Apple doesn't fully support third party dongles for BT, other than one overpriced D-Link... any hope?
mongoos150
Nov 3, 2005, 03:13 AM
After all of these problems...I think I'll hold off on updating :)
aswitcher
Nov 3, 2005, 03:58 AM
After all of these problems...I think I'll hold off on updating :)
Yeah, everything works so I am not loading this "fix" for at least a week to allow Apple to tweak it.
syntrophy
Nov 3, 2005, 05:21 AM
10.4.3 was sooo buggy, internet connection via WiFi on my campus is so ridiculously slow. this patched made it much better, but the restart did take an incredulous amount of time!
rosalindavenue
Nov 3, 2005, 09:07 AM
There was a problem w/ the mid 2005 ibooks (and then later on the late 2005 powerbooks) where if someone were using more than 1 gb of ram under heavy network usage the card will fail. This update fixes it, so that's probably the primary reason for releasing the update. It may fix other things tho.
Do you have a source for this info? I'm thinking about upgrading the RAM on my 2005 ibook and was just going to get 512 to avoid this problem-- thanks.
sirron
Nov 3, 2005, 10:04 AM
I should add to to my last rant. Luckily I had SuperDuper installed and had backed up on the 29th. This update damaged a driver in the OS which made my Wacom tablet useless and it changed the settings on Mighty Mouse. It took two hours to erase my Mac HD and clone from my firewire back to my Mac. Phhew!!
Thanks to SuperDuper.:) :)
devman
Nov 3, 2005, 10:16 AM
I should add to to my last rant. Luckily I had SuperDuper installed and had backed up on the 29th. This update damaged a driver in the OS which made my Wacom tablet useless and it changed the settings on Mighty Mouse. It took two hours to erase my Mac HD and clone from my firewire back to my Mac. Phhew!!
Thanks to SuperDuper.:) :)
Can you provide any more details please? I have a wacom tablet and I'm holding off on this airport update till I know more.
Trekkie
Nov 3, 2005, 11:49 AM
Not sure why people think these long reboot times are odd, it's obvious that the OS will need to update files that are otherwise in use during a normal restart and thus do this prior to loading the UI components.
While I understand that, what scared me for a bit was my iMac G5 Rev A fans turning into a jet engine with just the apple logo on a screen, but it recovered and went on after about 15 seconds.
Never did that before.
wdlove
Nov 3, 2005, 11:56 AM
So far updates have improved my wife's wireless connection with her PowerBook. Hopefully this will also.
Verto
Nov 3, 2005, 11:58 AM
While I understand that, what scared me for a bit was my iMac G5 Rev A fans turning into a jet engine with just the apple logo on a screen, but it recovered and went on after about 15 seconds.
Never did that before.
For what it's worth, that is a safety precaution: the fans turn on to full speed and remain that way, because the system is not able to monitor the temperature to ensure the machine is not overheating. It is just a safety feature, so don't be alarmed.
Verto
Nov 3, 2005, 12:01 PM
First of all, I downloaded this update and have had no problems with it. I also think it fixed a minor annoyance, but I'm not sure yet.
Previously, the majority of time when I brought my computer out of sleep mode, and sometimes just when I turned it on, I would have a problem with AirPort and my wireless network( via a D-Link router). I would have to unplug my router, wait a sec, plug it back in, and then AirPort would connect to the network with no problem.
So far, I haven't noticed this problem anymore, but it's only been a short time. Anyone else had this experience?
Noiseboy
Nov 3, 2005, 12:10 PM
I've noticed that since 10.4.3 when I've had to restart after updating various apps that the restart time is noticeably slower and that Airport doesn't automatically log on to my network any more. It's right there under the airport icon and works perfectly well when I do log on. I was going to put off updating this but I'll do it now and see what happens. Fingers crossed:eek:
mklos
Nov 3, 2005, 12:10 PM
What I don't understand is why do people install these updates if they don't need it? I mean, if you don't have AirPort, or wireless, then why install it? Just because there's an update, doesn't mean you need to install it.
My Yute
Nov 3, 2005, 12:31 PM
Do you have a source for this info? I'm thinking about upgrading the RAM on my 2005 ibook and was just going to get 512 to avoid this problem-- thanks.
Here's a long old thread about it. . .
discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@712.l58KaWAI568.7@.68b7c1b7
This update does fix that problem so you should be able to get ur new RAM with no fear.
amacgenius
Nov 3, 2005, 03:38 PM
My friend said that this update totally ****ed him on Airport, so mine is working fine with my D-Link router so I'm not going to update ;).
Noiseboy
Nov 3, 2005, 05:40 PM
I've noticed that since 10.4.3 when I've had to restart after updating various apps that the restart time is noticeably slower and that Airport doesn't automatically log on to my network any more. It's right there under the airport icon and works perfectly well when I do log on. I was going to put off updating this but I'll do it now and see what happens. Fingers crossed:eek:
Excellent, no problems at all and my Airport logs on to my network automatically again. Hoorah:D
karellen
Nov 3, 2005, 05:58 PM
Already done a restart and reset the PMU thing.
It says: "No Airport Hardware found"
Well it's gone from bad to sheer HELL.
My PB will not boot up at all. All that happens now is the apple logo on the startup screen turns into a prohibited sign after about 5 minutes.
I have started it up in the single user mode and can see a constant "still waiting for root device" error.
So far I have reset the PMU, the NVRAM, the PRAM.
Ran the apple hardware diagnostics - everything passed
Ran the disc utility on the Tiger DVD - repaired disk and permissions
Phoned Apple and the nice Indian Call Centre operator wouldn't deviate from his on-screen script unless I pay him 47 euros.
(I am currently logged in here from my sister's old Vaio laptop running Windows ME over dialup as it doesn't have a ethernet port)
Some serious expert help needed before I totally wipe the drive.
yg17
Nov 3, 2005, 09:08 PM
After the 10.4.3 update, I had my Powerbook right next to the base station and got 3 of 4 bars. In a certain spot on campus where I always get 3-4 bars, I was fluctuating between 1 and 2. After installing this update, my signal strength has improved again. No problems here
Heath
Nov 3, 2005, 09:28 PM
I installed this update on my mini.
Good news, wireless signal strength improved markedly.
Bad news, wired connection drops every 30 minutes or so for 5 minutes.
I want to confirm that it was this update causing the problem with the wired connection. Is there any way to remove this update?
Thanks
EricNau
Nov 4, 2005, 01:01 AM
While we're on the subject of airports... if you're using one, be sure to use WPA.
WEP can be broken in THREE MINUTES (http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php). Not kidding. WPA, on the other hand, is secure.
Right now I'm using WPA personal, is that the best?
What are the differences between all of the WPA's (1, 2, personal, enterprise):confused:
What about checking "closed network"? Does that make it so no one can log onto my network unless they know the name? Do you recommend it on-top of the WPA?
artifex
Nov 4, 2005, 05:54 AM
Right now I'm using WPA personal, is that the best?
What are the differences between all of the WPA's (1, 2, personal, enterprise):confused:
What about checking "closed network"? Does that make it so no one can log onto my network unless they know the name? Do you recommend it on-top of the WPA?
The differences are explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access
devman
Nov 4, 2005, 01:46 PM
I should add to to my last rant. Luckily I had SuperDuper installed and had backed up on the 29th. This update damaged a driver in the OS which made my Wacom tablet useless and it changed the settings on Mighty Mouse. It took two hours to erase my Mac HD and clone from my firewire back to my Mac. Phhew!!
Thanks to SuperDuper.
Can you provide any more details please? I have a wacom tablet and I'm holding off on this airport update till I know more.
Well, after sirron did not provide any details I noticed he had posted this same message elsewhere on the web. I have since installed the airport update on two different machines and both machines continue to work perfectly including a Wacom tablet on each. The update did not affect Wacom at all for me.
Deezer-D
Nov 4, 2005, 05:41 PM
I've had an on-going problem with my airport connection for a while now and just can't seem to resolve it. When my powerbook goes to sleep I loose my wireless network connection when I wake it. I then have to enter the network section in System Preferences and renew the DHCP lease. Sometimes this doesn't work and I have to log out then in again to get a connection because airport has assigned it's own IP address. I'm running 10.4.3 on a PB 1.67 1.5GB RAM. I think things improved when I updated to 10.4.3 but I'm back to square 1 after the AirPort Update 2005-001. Is there any way to remove this AirPort update? I've run all the tasks availible in Onyx and re-set the PMU but still no joy. I've tried deleting my network locations and re-creating them again but again no luck. I'm seriously thinking of wiping the HD and starting all over again. Any help would be grately appreciated.
Cheers
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ohcrap
Nov 4, 2005, 06:06 PM
Downloaded and rebooted quickly. Everything like normal. Already had full signal strength from the router about 70ft from my desk, and nothings changed.
Another great update from Apple. Keep up the good work. :)
GiantsFan
Nov 5, 2005, 12:31 AM
Help! I'm having that problem too. "Airport Card: No information found."
I zapped the pram, reset the stuff. I also tried booting and logging in as safe mode then rebooting. Oh my god this sucks. Anyone know how I can get my airport back?
artifex
Nov 5, 2005, 03:19 AM
I finally got home to test my wireless with ALL of my major apps loaded (250 meg free out of 2 gig) and kept a ping running while I launched. Wireless kept responding very nicely with no dropped pings and respectable 20-30ms ping times which is appropriate for the server I was pinging. Prior to doing this update I would get 300-500ms pings and a lot of dropped pings.
W00T! Glad to see this fixed and only 1 day after I learn about it ;)
http://www.epler.net/heavy-load-fixed1.jpg
http://www.epler.net/heavy-load-fixed2.jpg
Gosh, you have a lot of stuff on your desktop. How many screens do you use? How big are they?
Also, isn't that too much stuff in your dock? I'd be trying to toss categories of apps into folders that would pop up down there, instead. I don't even recognize all your icons :)
Oh, and you need to get a better icon for AdiumX. It's easy. GIR and Calvin's friend Hobbes are both available. :)
thirdkind
Nov 5, 2005, 03:55 AM
My PowerMac had Panther pre-installed and I had excellent wireless signal strength with an AirPort 802.11g card and Belkin pre-n router. After wiping Panther and installing a fresh copy of Tiger, I had about half strength--and this is literally three feet from the router. Very slow. I turned off AirPort and used the ethernet connection.
Just got done installing the AirPort update (installed 10.4.3 earlier this week), and I'm back to full strength. I move a lot of large files over my network so I'm going to stick with the ethernet connection, but it's nice to see that AirPort is working properly again.
GiantsFan
Nov 5, 2005, 04:23 AM
Ok, never mind. I got my wireless to work again. I guess my Airport card got knocked loose. I did accidently bump it against a hard surface earlier.
ClimbingTheLog
Nov 6, 2005, 11:29 PM
On an iBook 500 I had this update make the airport hardware disappear.
Rebooted into single user mode, ran fsck -fy, and now it's fine.
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