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zimv20
Nov 2, 2005, 10:07 PM
link (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/opinion/polls/main1005252.shtml)


(CBS) Most Americans believe someone in the Bush Administration did leak Valerie Plame's name to reporters – even though Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald indicted no one for doing that. Half of the public describes the matter as something of great importance to the country, and this poll finds low assessments of both the President and the Vice President – with the President's overall approval rating dropping again to its lowest point ever.

The nomination of Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court has had minimal impact so far, and assessments of the war in Iraq remain negative – with more than ever before saying the Administration was less than honest in discussing their reasons for war.

There is one less dark spot — perhaps reflecting lower gas prices, far fewer now than one month ago are pessimistic about the future of the economy.

ASSESSING THE INDICTMENTS

The indictments handed down last week against former Vice-Presidential Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby included perjury — but they did not charge Libby or anyone else with actually leaking the name of agent Valerie Plame. However, six in ten Americans believe that someone in the Bush Administration did leak her name. This is up from July, when 52 percent thought so. One-quarter today, as in July, aren't sure.

DID SOMEONE IN BUSH ADMIN. LEAK AGENT'S NAME?

Yes
Now
62%
7/2005
52%

No
Now
14%
7/2005
21%

Don't know
Now
24%
7/2005
27%

Many Americans will withhold judgment on Scooter Libby for now: 54 percent say they can't tell now if they think the charges against Libby are true or not. Of those with an opinion, the overwhelming number thinks the charges against him are probably true.

ARE THE CHARGES AGAINST LIBBY TRUE?
Yes, probably true 39%
No, probably not 4%
Haven't heard enough to say 54%

Many Americans have not focused on the role of Karl Rove, the President's Deputy Chief of Staff, who was not charged with any crime last week: half says they don't know if Rove did anything wrong or not.

KARL ROVE: HIS ACTIONS IN CIA MATTER WERE…
Wrong & unethical 14%
Wrong & illegal 8%
Wrong, unethical AND illegal 7%
Did nothing wrong 19%
Don't know 51%

Americans view the actions of Rove differently from the actions of Libby, who was charged. Just one in three thinks anything Rove may have done would be serious enough to warrant prosecution, and many – four in ten – can't say at this point. As for Libby, 61 percent do think his actions are serious enough to deserve prosecution.

LIBBY & ROVE: DO THEIR ACTIONS DESERVE PROSECUTION?

Libby
Yes
61%
No
14%
Don't know
25%

Rove
Yes
36%
No
24%
Don't know
40%

Nearly two-thirds of Americans – 64 percent - say they have heard at least something about the investigation, including 27 percent who have heard a lot about it and 37 percent who have heard some. Last July, 19 percent had heard a lot about it. Still, even after Friday's indictments, more than a third say they've heard little or nothing about the investigation.

HAVE YOU HEARD OR READ ABOUT CIA LEAK INVESTIGATION?

A lot
Now
27%
7/2005
19%

Some
Now
37%
7/2005
35%

Not much/none
Now
36%
7/2005
45%

51 percent say the CIA leak is of great importance to the nation. This exceeds the 41 percent who, in January of 1998, said the matter between then-President Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was of great importance. It is closer to the 48 percent who gave such a level of import to Iran-Contra in February, 1987, although that was a few months after the scandal had broken. 53 percent placed Watergate in that category in a 1973 Gallup poll, which was also some months after the news had broken. Just 20 percent thought the Whitewater scandal in March, 1994 was of great importance.

HOW IMPORTANT TO THE NATION IS THE CIA LEAK MATTER?

CIA Leak
Great importance
51%
Some importance
35%
Little/no importance
12%

Clinton-Lewinsky (1/98)
Great importance
41%
Some importance
21%
Little/no importance
37%

Whitewater (3/94)
Great importance
20%
Some importance
29%
Little/no importance
45%

Iran-Contra (2/87)
Great importance
48%
Some importance
33%
Little/no importance
19%

Watergate (5/73; Gallup Poll)
Great importance
53%
Some importance
25%
Little/no importance
22%

Six in ten Democrats say the matter is of great importance, compared to four in ten Republicans who agree. However, more than eight in ten Republicans rate it as at least somewhat important.

[...]

The President's job approval rating is now 35 percent, his lowest rating since taking office in 2001. More than half the public disapproves of the job he is doing as president.

(emphasis mine)



yg17
Nov 2, 2005, 11:09 PM
The President's job approval rating is now 35 percent


Don't have much to say about that except......








.....OWNED!

miloblithe
Nov 2, 2005, 11:34 PM
That scandal rating data is interesting. That means this is arguably the most important government scandal of the past 35 years. (Like many here, I'd say, "duh", but it's good to see that most Americans seem to think so too).

Impeach the lot of them. Throw 'em in jail.

tristan
Nov 3, 2005, 12:09 AM
What the poll is missing is *why* the American public thinks that this is important. I would like more data to see if they are connecting the dots between Libby, Wilson, the State of the Union speech, the lack of WMDs, and the Iraq war.

Whyren
Nov 3, 2005, 12:26 AM
What the poll is missing is *why* the American public thinks that this is important. I would like more data to see if they are connecting the dots between Libby, Wilson, the State of the Union speech, the lack of WMDs, and the Iraq war.

I'd be willing to bet that one of the major reasons for the public's interest (and possibly position) is simply that the media is talking about it.

IJ Reilly
Nov 3, 2005, 01:04 AM
I'd be willing to bet that one of the major reasons for the public's interest (and possibly position) is simply that the media is talking about it.

Okay, you got me there. Why is the media talking about it?

skunk
Nov 3, 2005, 05:22 AM
Okay, you got me there. Why is the media talking about it?Clearly they've been responding to our debates on this forum. Why else?

Don't panic
Nov 3, 2005, 09:40 AM
I'd be willing to bet that one of the major reasons for the public's interest (and possibly position) is simply that the media is talking about it.

whereas nobody has ever heard of one lewinsky character...

leekohler
Nov 3, 2005, 12:06 PM
Fry them all.

solvs
Nov 4, 2005, 03:13 AM
You know, I'd love to withold judgement... but they so did it.