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johndallas999
Jun 10, 2013, 03:00 PM
Seriously wouldn't it be nice to have the weather tile show the current temp kinda like the calendar icon does currently?

Ottoman1
Jun 10, 2013, 03:05 PM
The map icon would have a working compass needle.

The weather icon would reflect the current weather with the temperature.

The music icon would be the cover of the music playing (when playing)

Photo icon could be a slideshow...


I'm amazed that they didn't do anything like this.

carfac
Jun 10, 2013, 03:06 PM
the calender icon could show todays date....

johndallas999
Jun 10, 2013, 03:07 PM
The map icon would have a working compass needle.

The weather icon would reflect the current weather with the temperature.

The music icon would be the cover of the music playing (when playing)

Photo icon could be a slideshow...


I'm amazed that they didn't do anything like this.

Agreed, all of those things would rock!

jared52
Jun 10, 2013, 03:08 PM
the calender icon could show todays date....

It does that in iOS 6...:rolleyes:

Nikos
Jun 10, 2013, 03:09 PM
This is something I have wanted to see for a while, particularly with weather, but wouldn't the functionality be bad for battery life?

GBR
Jun 10, 2013, 03:10 PM
It looked in the video like the clock app showed the true time and the second hand was moving, maybe temp and other live icons are coming in future announcements?

ihakim
Jun 10, 2013, 03:13 PM
The map icon would have a working compass needle.

The weather icon would reflect the current weather with the temperature.

The music icon would be the cover of the music playing (when playing)

Photo icon could be a slideshow...


I'm amazed that they didn't do anything like this.

It's probably because one purpose of an icon is to help the user quickly identify it on the screen. This holds true for some of these like Calendar and Maps (with compass). For the others, it would be harder to implement while still keeping it recognizable. Battery life is also a consideration for icons that need a constant refresh, like Compass or temp.

HeezyBear
Jun 10, 2013, 03:13 PM
To have the current temperature displayed in the icon would require a constant data connection, which would be bad for battery life. The clock icon could change as the calendar does because it doesn't require data to be used. I'm sure Apple would agree with you that it'd be a nice feature to have, but the tradeoff of poorer battery life just isn't worth it to them for such a feature.

maximus96
Jun 10, 2013, 03:15 PM
i wonder how long until all the app developers change out their glossy icons to something that matches...until then it will be an ugly mess with different looking icons...just like when using a nice and pretty theme only to find some apps stick out like a sore thumb...

springsup
Jun 10, 2013, 03:15 PM
To have the current temperature displayed in the icon would require a constant data connection, which would be bad for battery life. The clock icon could change as the calendar does because it doesn't require data to be used.

Not really - the weather data doesn't change instantaneously. They could fetch an update every hour or so.

We don't know that this isn't happening. Hold your horses until the beta is actually in peoples' hands.

Ottoman1
Jun 10, 2013, 03:17 PM
It's probably because one purpose of an icon is to help the user quickly identify it on the screen. This holds true for some of these like Calendar and Maps (with compass). For the others, it would be harder to implement while still keeping it recognizable.

No offense but I could not disagree with you more. Having intelligent icons would serve multiple purposes. Entertainment, information and functionality...

HeezyBear
Jun 10, 2013, 03:18 PM
Not really - the weather data doesn't change instantaneously. They could fetch an update every hour or so.

We don't know that this isn't happening. Hold your horses until the beta is actually in peoples' hands.

Agreed, we don't know for sure just yet. Although I feel if this was to be a feature they would have made mention of it as much as people talk about it.

yanki01
Jun 10, 2013, 03:18 PM
i wonder how long until all the app developers change out their glossy icons to something that matches...until then it will be an ugly mess with different looking icons...just like when using a nice and pretty theme only to find some apps stick out like a sore thumb...

I agree.

gmanist1000
Jun 10, 2013, 03:18 PM
Seriously wouldn't it be nice to have the weather tile show the current temp kinda like the calendar icon does currently?

Don't worry your picture will move around in the background. No need for live icons :rolleyes:

joejoejoe
Jun 10, 2013, 03:19 PM
It does that in iOS 6...:rolleyes:

it has since iPhone OS 1.

ihakim
Jun 10, 2013, 03:28 PM
No offense but I could not disagree with you more. Having intelligent icons would serve multiple purposes. Entertainment, information and functionality...

Notice that I said one purpose of an icon, NOT the only purpose of an icon........

It's about maintaining a recognizable icon that isn't a battery drain but is still dynamic. Hence, changing the date on the Calendar App is feasible while having a compass on the Maps app is not.

Fresh Burek
Jun 10, 2013, 03:29 PM
To have the current temperature displayed in the icon would require a constant data connection, which would be bad for battery life. The clock icon could change as the calendar does because it doesn't require data to be used. I'm sure Apple would agree with you that it'd be a nice feature to have, but the tradeoff of poorer battery life just isn't worth it to them for such a feature.

It wouldn't need a constant data connection. It doesn't have to update every second. It could function like Android weather widgets, where it gives you an option to select how often it should update. Updating every 1 hr is not going to increase data use that much.

Ottoman1
Jun 10, 2013, 03:35 PM
It wouldn't need a constant data connection. It doesn't have to update every second. It could function like Android weather widgets, where it gives you an option to select how often it should update. Updating every 1 hr is not going to increase data use that much.

Agreed - and it would be something a bit innovative. I'm glad I don't have to open my calendar up every time to see the date, of course you can see the how that same benefit would apply to other datum.

I love apple but nothing today was new - more like they took existing ideas and executed better than anyone else.

TrenttonY
Jun 10, 2013, 03:52 PM
I noticed it moving during the keynote, but confirmed it by the photo of the iOS 7 ( http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/ ) top image. The status bar and clock show the same time. I looked on my iOS 6 iPhone and it says 10:15. :)

Aston.Zagato
Jun 10, 2013, 04:04 PM
I noticed it moving during the keynote, but confirmed it by the photo of the iOS 7 ( http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/ ) top image. The status bar and clock show the same time. I looked on my iOS 6 iPhone and it says 10:15. :)

Yes! I just noticed this while re-watching the iOS 7 features video (at 6:50 mark)! Watch the seconds hand! http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/#video

Bring on the Native & 3rd Party Live Icons!! :)

Ottoman1
Jun 10, 2013, 04:08 PM
I noticed it moving during the keynote, but confirmed it by the photo of the iOS 7 ( http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/ ) top image. The status bar and clock show the same time. I looked on my iOS 6 iPhone and it says 10:15. :)

Great catch!

Mrbobb
Jun 10, 2013, 06:53 PM
They keep boasting, more a-at-a-glance stuff, am waiting.

Ottoman1
Jun 10, 2013, 09:09 PM
What other intelligent icons would you like to see?

Scrolling headline icon news apps

Timer apps that show the countdown on an icon

Etc.

musio
Jun 10, 2013, 10:14 PM
The map icon would have a working compass needle.

The weather icon would reflect the current weather with the temperature.

The music icon would be the cover of the music playing (when playing)

Photo icon could be a slideshow...


I'm amazed that they didn't do anything like this.

genius! wish apple did this

lupinglade
Jun 10, 2013, 11:12 PM
To have the current temperature displayed in the icon would require a constant data connection, which would be bad for battery life. The clock icon could change as the calendar does because it doesn't require data to be used. I'm sure Apple would agree with you that it'd be a nice feature to have, but the tradeoff of poorer battery life just isn't worth it to them for such a feature.

Really? Or it could just fetch it once in a while :)

gaanee
Jan 17, 2014, 03:34 PM
Isn't that Windows live tiles. Sounds like a good idea but wonder how would the album art look on a small size icon..