Does your concept of beauty change as you age?

[vniow]

A question for our elder members although younger ones can post too.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/winky.gif

I'm not exactly sure where this question came from or why I'm asking, but oh well.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/smiley.gif

[scem0]

Most definitely. When I was little (before puberty, it was more a
'if you like the person' thing, and I have found that I am more
attracted to the body now :D). That might seem shallow, but it
is part of puberty. But I do realize that love and lust are two
totally different things, and that I must look past what a person
looks like. Stupid puberty :o ;) :D

[jelloshotsrule]

of course.

i mean, it all depends on how you're raised and what you experience. but of course it changes.

on a similar (kind of) note... i've discussed with people the idea that there are different levels of hotness and such. purely superficial, but bear with me.

take howard stern. not exactly a stud if you were to see him on the street, and if he didn't have the star power. so he gets married to a "normal" woman and has kids, etc. as he becomes famous and powerful, he has the "access" to "hot" women, celebrities and such... is it understandable for someone like him to become less attracted, purely physically, to his wife?

now, howard stern is kind of a bad example because he has women naked in front of him all the time, and all that... but when he was married, he was faithful (claims he was at least) insofar as he didn't sleep with other women. looked but didn't touch... but that's besides the point.

are there levels of attractiveness? if we assume models and such as level a, with regressive levels down to say d.... if i am around a c, marry a c, then become famous and now am in the league to get a's.... is it understandable to become less attracted to my c wife?


just curious what people think

if you feel this is way off the idea of this thread, feel free to put it to a halt, but i think it's related.

also, i am in no way condoning such superficiality, and i believe that when you are so in love with a person, the physical stuff becomes more attractive to you (on a simple level, cool/nice people are automatically more attractive even physically because of their personality). and as such, i don't think that a person would become disgusted with their spouse having moved up these beauty levels. but, i think to have a higher standard so to speak is understandable.


all that said, i hate how the media controls our definition of beauty.

Cadence- by Boy Sets Fire

In this culture I am just the meat for vultures to pick
Until my beauty shows for your glossy covers
And in classy circles smother
Have I nothing more to give
And I would rather starve than lose this body.
I would rather starve than lose your acceptance
I need you love, I just need someone's approval. To put me back again
Is this skin all you want, are aesthetics all you need
Is this where I stand
My eyes will always show my empty soul
As you divert your eyes to my body
(It's nothing to you, but it matters to me)
I'm nothing to you but this shell that you see
Rotting flesh for your eyes
Wilting beauty for every goddamned girl to compare to
Dear God why can't I be
Dear God why can't I be more like him, more like her More or less like you

[scem0]

also, i am in no way condoning such superficiality, and i believe that when you are so in love with a person, the physical stuff becomes more attractive to you (on a simple level, cool/nice people are automatically more attractive even physically because of their personality). and as such, i don't think that a person would become disgusted with their spouse having moved up these beauty levels. but, i think to have a higher standard so to speak is understandable.

I have to second that. I know people who I think are gorgeous
but just knowing them affects my perception of them because of
their awesome personality.

That goes both ways though :D ;) ;)

[MacAztec]

I always thought looks mattered. When I was in like fifth grade there was this one girl that I thought was gorgeous.

Now I am a freshman in highschool, and OH DEAR GOD! The babes here are just....they just leave me speechless.

This one girl Kendell, she is simply irresistable. Man oh man....its like I can't keep my eyes off of her when she walks by.

We have quite a few hot freshman too :D

[vniow]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


if you feel this is way off the idea of this thread, feel free to put it to a halt, but i think it's related.



Naw it's cool.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/that5c27scool.gif

It's kinda how I wanted this thread to head anywayz, in hindsight, it should've been 'How does your concept of beauty change as you get older?' instead of 'does it'?

[ibjoshua]

Everything is relative.

I think I'm attracted to the face and hair more than I was when I was younger.

I totally agree that's much easier to be attracted to people who have 'cool' personalities.

I'm also convinced that we're not truly in control of who we're attracted to. For instance, I'll look twice at most blondes even though in the long run I'm more attracted to darker haired people. What's going on there? It's definitely a knee-jerk reaction. Is it society or some sort of basic genetic/instinctive type thing?

One thing I've found is that if someone is interested in you then it makes them more atttractive (for a while anyway).

Just some thoughts. We could write multiple theses on this topic and still have whole areas to cover.

i_b_joshua

[vniow]

Originally posted by i_b_joshua


One thing I've found is that if someone is interested in you then it makes them more atttractive (for a while anyway).



Hmm, that's not been my experience so far.

When I've had people interested in me, it didn't neccecerally make them more attractive in my eyes.

My experience has been that it only works if it's mutual, not loving from afar of whatever.

Maybe it's just me though.

[jelloshotsrule]

i agree with i_b_joshua to an extent about if they have an interest in you

especially if you have low self esteem/aren't a real stud/studette with the gender of choice. i mean, there was a day when if any girl showed me interest, friendly or otherwise (was never "otherwise" ha!) then i'd immediately be into her... the key here i think is that it's not the physical thing that clicks first... if they like me, then i start to like them (in general) and with that, i start to be more attracted to them physically.... if that makes sense

if a person liking you is a
you liking a person is b
you being attracted to them physically is c

a comes first, then b, then c

rather then, a, c, b

in my opinion

ps. how geeky was that. i can't express my nerdness enough in art school.....

[vniow]

Yeah I guess I could see it if you were one of those anti-social low self esteem kids.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/winky.gif

But then again, I was one of those to an extent, and I didn't get all giddy when someone took an interest in me, I mean I'm not going to be automatically attracted to them just because they like me or whatever, I'm going to be attracted to them if I find them attractive.

Maybe I'm just picky.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/ppphhht.gif

[Chomolungma]

I think the criteria for physical beauty remains the same for both sex and it is timeless. We will always find those who are symmetrical and well porportion to be attractive. Evidence for this idea is in our cosmetic industries (from makeup to plastic surgery).

As for beauty found in the heart? Who cares, as long as they are within the range of normal according to psychologists.:D

I'm a 27 year male.

[ibjoshua]

Yeah, jelloshotsrule that's pretty much what I was getting at. It's good for the ego and naturally the ego wants more so starts messing with your emotions.

edvniow, I didn't mean it makes 'unattractive' people seem attractive if they're interested in you, but it certainly helps to make pople you've otherwise felt ambivalent towards seem more attractive.


i_b_joshua

[vniow]

Originally posted by i_b_joshua
edvniow, I didn't mean it makes 'unattractive' people seem attractive if they're interested in you, but it certainly helps to make pople you've otherwise felt ambivalent towards seem more attractive.


i_b_joshua


Yeah I guess that makes more sense. I can see where you're coming from now.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/smiley.gif

[jelloshotsrule]

i'm not a totally anti social no self esteem kid myself... but in high school, i had all male friends, but was "school friends" with a few girls. well, based on the fact that those girls talked to me at all (i'm not a freak, just happen to not had a lot of lady friends, really. ;)) i put them a step above the others.... now, the few i'm thinking of in particular also had other stuff to offer. smart, funny, etc. the fact is, anyone who would talk to me would need to have some similar qualities, as is normal in friendship. therefore, it's not some random person coming up in a bar (ha, bars...) and saying "what's up brah?" but rather, people i know somewhat, and start to know better... then i start to like them, then they become more physically attractive (not ugly to begin with, just not striking necessarily). then i become obsessed, then they get scared,

and repeat.



ha

but now i have a girlfriend. like 2.5 years. how freaky is that.

[vniow]

Ha, I was completely the opposite.
In HS, I had way more female friends then male and I always felt closer (in a non-sexual way) to my girl friends than my guy friends.

Guess I just relate better to my own gender then.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/winky.gif

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by edvniow


Guess I just relate better to my own gender then.

me too. as i said. ;)

[AssassinOfGates]

While beauty is a factor, people learn over time that not everyone has a six pack or a hour glass form, and thus they begin to look for other qualities such as personality and honesty.

[wdlove]

Being 54, can't say that I see a real difference. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, an artistic concept. I like to admire beauty. What's inside is for keeps, won't change over time.

edvniow, will you help me with an Avatar?

[vniow]

Originally posted by wdlove


edvniow, will you help me with an Avatar?

Sure but my editing tools are very limited since my computer with all my software on it is down at the moment due to lack of electricity.

What are you looking for?

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by Chomolungma
I think the criteria for physical beauty remains the same for both sex and it is timeless. We will always find those who are symmetrical and well porportion to be attractive. Evidence for this idea is in our cosmetic industries (from makeup to plastic surgery).

As for beauty found in the heart? Who cares, as long as they are within the range of normal according to psychologists.:D

I'm a 27 year male.

i saw an interesting tv show on beauty and while symmetry may hold a high premium, it does not always dictate the sexy factor

the highest regarded male movie star at the time of the show was harrison ford and he was found to be one of the most unsymetrical people in hollywood, so go figure

and for women, small chins were usually held at a premium, but the hottest female star at the time was melanie griffith, a woman with quite a big chin

[wdlove]

edvniow, thank you. I'm willing to wait till your computer is up and running. I know that waiting will prove beneficial. Would like to get your suggestions. How long do you think it will be? Please let me know.
:)

[vniow]

My computer's actually running now but power is still iffy here and it shuts off every time it blips so I'm leaving it off for now until things become more stable.

What kind of avatar are you looking for?

[Chomolungma]

Originally posted by jefhatfield


i saw an interesting tv show on beauty and while symmetry may hold a high premium, it does not always dictate the sexy factor

the highest regarded male movie star at the time of the show was harrison ford and he was found to be one of the most unsymetrical people in hollywood, so go figure

and for women, small chins were usually held at a premium, but the hottest female star at the time was melanie griffith, a woman with quite a big chin

With regards to Harrison Ford being sexy, sure. Are we talking about physical beauty or sex appeal which is more important to mating to females? We all know that women have a list of sexy stars and beautiful stars, and by inlarge they match up that well.:D

[springscansing]

Eh... *shrug*

Ya like who you like. :-) I don't really judge on age, gender, anything... just shoot for whatever looks good.

I've been in a relationship for over a year now though, and I am very happy. :-)

As for does it change with age... I donno... I am attracted to some people 30, and some people 13...

Don't tell anyone about that 13 thing. I'm still a teenager.. barely.

Just do whatever you want! As long as its legal and you like it (or even if it isn't legal, but should me *glare sodomy laws*), go for it!

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
of course.

i mean, it all depends on how you're raised and what you experience. but of course it changes.

on a similar (kind of) note... i've discussed with people the idea that there are different levels of hotness and such. purely superficial, but bear with me.

take howard stern. not exactly a stud if you were to see him on the street, and if he didn't have the star power. so he gets married to a "normal" woman and has kids, etc. as he becomes famous and powerful, he has the "access" to "hot" women, celebrities and such... is it understandable for someone like him to become less attracted, purely physically, to his wife?

now, howard stern is kind of a bad example because he has women naked in front of him all the time, and all that... but when he was married, he was faithful (claims he was at least) insofar as he didn't sleep with other women. looked but didn't touch... but that's besides the point.

are there levels of attractiveness? if we assume models and such as level a, with regressive levels down to say d.... if i am around a c, marry a c, then become famous and now am in the league to get a's.... is it understandable to become less attracted to my c wife?


just curious what people think

if you feel this is way off the idea of this thread, feel free to put it to a halt, but i think it's related.

also, i am in no way condoning such superficiality, and i believe that when you are so in love with a person, the physical stuff becomes more attractive to you (on a simple level, cool/nice people are automatically more attractive even physically because of their personality). and as such, i don't think that a person would become disgusted with their spouse having moved up these beauty levels. but, i think to have a higher standard so to speak is understandable.


all that said, i hate how the media controls our definition of beauty.

Cadence- by Boy Sets Fire

In this culture I am just the meat for vultures to pick
Until my beauty shows for your glossy covers
And in classy circles smother
Have I nothing more to give
And I would rather starve than lose this body.
I would rather starve than lose your acceptance
I need you love, I just need someone's approval. To put me back again
Is this skin all you want, are aesthetics all you need
Is this where I stand
My eyes will always show my empty soul
As you divert your eyes to my body
(It's nothing to you, but it matters to me)
I'm nothing to you but this shell that you see
Rotting flesh for your eyes
Wilting beauty for every goddamned girl to compare to
Dear God why can't I be
Dear God why can't I be more like him, more like her More or less like you
Holy **** man, that was deep. I'm still trying to get my head around that a b c thing. At last - a president with speaking skills!

[Steradian]

Well I always have found that i find Mac geek women to be particularly more attractive than thier less intelligent counterparts who are "hot". But then again that's me :)
(I hope i was PC... yeah)
p.s. yea i finaly able to shead my newbie shell and join in the community :)
PowerBook G4 1ghz

[alex_ant]

I would have to say I agree with Jello's Hot on this one. Intellectual attraction should come first. Whenever I meet a girl, I make absolutely sure that she is able to see beyond my devastatingly handsome looks and into the genius inside of me first and foremost. Otherwise it's like I'm being begged by women to allow them to give birth to my firstborn, and it's like, sheesh, you don't even know what my favorite food is yet.

[Chomolungma]

Originally posted by alex_ant
I would have to say I agree with Jello's Hot on this one. Intellectual attraction should come first. Whenever I meet a girl, I make absolutely sure that she is able to see beyond my devastatingly handsome looks and into the genius inside of me first and foremost. Otherwise it's like I'm being begged by women to allow them to give birth to my firstborn, and it's like, sheesh, you don't even know what my favorite food is yet.

Intellectual attraction is but an excuse.:D In light of the recent Trent Lott and in particular the various code words used to describe separatist ideas. Intellectual attraction is ...... (humor intended):D

I think we all agree that it is more expensive for a beautiful woman's egg than a lesser attractive one in a fertility clinic. Thinking on this line, intelligence is mostly environment and genes plays a minor role (i'm confidence and willing to bet).

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by alex_ant

Holy **** man, that was deep. I'm still trying to get my head around that a b c thing. At last - a president with speaking skills!

and the beauty of it is.... i'll piss my damn pants on live tv.... that's how dedicated i am

2k 1 dime, 1 nickel, 1 penny.



for some of us, intelligence isn't just an "excuse". whatever that even means.

as Ale X_ant said

(what IS your favorite ale ale x_ant?)

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by wdlove
Being 54, can't say that I see a real difference. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, an artistic concept. I like to admire beauty. What's inside is for keeps, won't change over time.

edvniow, will you help me with an Avatar?

oh my god

i didn't notice

congrats on your 500 and welcome to the avatar club:D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
oh my god

i didn't notice

congrats on your 500 and welcome to the avatar club:D

getting 500th post is something worth bringing god into eh? and from you??? ha

[mcrain]

I definately noticed (since I'm suddenly single again) that the women I'm attracted to are very different than the ones I used to be attracted to. Sure, an 18 year rock hard cheerleader would be fun to play with, but not much more.

By the way, I used to think all that cr*p about women hitting their sexual peak at 35 was a bunch of balonie, no, propaganda for sad older women, but now, all I can say is wow.

If you're a younger guy, and a woman in her 30's (especially mid 30's) wants to tadpoll with you, do NOT turn that offer down.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


getting 500th post is something worth bringing god into eh? and from you??? ha

hey man, i am the evangelist but you are a demi-god:p

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by jefhatfield


hey man, i am the evangelist but you are a demi-god:p

and yet i don't bring god into every thread. ;)

maybe i feel threatened by god... being only a demi and all.

[Mr. Anderson]

I don't think it changes, all I've noticed is that the students at GW University just look younger - no less good looking. I drive through the campus every day on the way to and from work.

And this just started happening (noticing the age difference) over the past several years.

D

[OutThere]

Originally posted by i_b_joshua
I didn't mean it makes 'unattractive' people seem attractive if they're interested in you, but it certainly helps to make pople you've otherwise felt ambivalent towards seem more attractive.


most definitely

[3777]

:confused:

[3777]

The only thing that's changed with age, is when I was 19 I used to get really upset with 28 year olds dated who 19-20 year olds, now that I'm 28 it doesn't seem as bad:D

[ESDGraffiti]

Not much has changed really. when I was 17, I liked 21 year old women. Now, I'm 39 and I STILL like 21 year old women.

[wdlove]

edvniow I would like to get your suggestions, you seem to have a great imagination. Something eye catching & original would be great!

[Kethoticus]

Not much has changed really. when I was 17, I liked 21 year old women. Now, I'm 39 and I STILL like 21 year old women.
Now THAT was funny!! And I think part of the humor in it was that it was so brief and yet, so true.

For me, my standards have slowly evolved over the years, but not drastically. Since I was a teenager, I've been into the Latina/Asian/Meditteranean/Middle-Eastern look. I've always been a "breast man" too (could be why my fiance-to-be is a 38D Filipina).

I'd say that my priority for physical beauty is the same as it ever was, too. I can not see being with someone for the rest of my life and not like what I see lying next to me every night. I'm decent-looking (not hot, but I'd consider myself handsome), and I want at least the same from my life partner. As it stands, I currently have that.

As for spiritual beauty, I agree that if you want a permanent partner, you're going to need inner beauty and grace. Looks will wear real thin without it. As for me, I require both. And only one time in my life did someone's personality make me attracted to them, regardless of the average looks. But I've been turned off, too, by sexy little things that had snotty, self-absorbed dispositions. Zero patience for that. I refuse to be p-whipped by an impressive cleavage and large, almond-shaped eyes. Gotta have more self-respect than that.

I also agree with some of the people here who've said that a woman's beauty can increase with the degree of her interest in you and that this is related to our ego structures. We can even be seduced by someone's flattery of us. I believe that if we all had solid ego structures, we'd be less easily manipulated by members of the opposite sex (or members of the same sex, if you happen to go that way--but you get the idea here).

I dunno if I've added anything to this discussion or not, but I wanted to share some of my thoughts on the subject.

[MacBandit]

Absolutely it changes. When I was younger I was a tit man. As I've grre older though I started tp admire a nice ass and tits. Then later on I was admiring the whole package. Now as you can see in my tar I like multiple packages all in the same place. :D :D :p

[vniow]

Originally posted by wdlove
edvniow I would like to get your suggestions, you seem to have a great imagination. Something eye catching & original would be great!

I made this one awhile ago from basically scratch.

I'm still having a bit of trouble with my other computer so I hope you like this one for now.

Enjoy!

[mymemory]

When I was early teen I liked better by their faces but the rest of my friends where more concerned of the boobs and legs. Well I got a girlfriend with a very nice face and her body was ok (at that age most girls looks the same).

When I was 17 I got a girfriend with nice boobs, nice but and nice legs, then I got it! I could understand my friends.

After that I was always attracted to short girls, they where very cute. So I got one, she was very short, well not THAT shor but... short, I liked her a lot, she was two inches shorter than the ones before her. Any way her body was nice (in proportion). In that time my friends where talking about tall girls, any of my girlfriend where really tall, normal regular stuff.

Well, because of the destiny I got a girldfriend that was taller than my friends, with nice but, nice legs, regular boobs and nice face (runaway model type)

Right now 4 years later she still my girlfriend, she survived the statistics. I like short girls but I need more surface to touch now.

I guess the best answer to your question is my life experience.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by MacBandit
Absolutely it changes. When I was younger I was a tit man. As I've grre older though I started tp admire a nice ass and tits. Then later on I was admiring the whole package. Now as you can see in my tar I like multiple packages all in the same place. :D :D :p

i was always an ass man...he he

but now at 39, i am a man with tits...and i am not fat anymore, it's just that i have flabby skin and my darn areolas have grown...sometimes i just should have stayed in bed

aging sucks...starting at about age 30:p :p :p

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by dukestreet
I don't think it changes, all I've noticed is that the students at GW University just look younger - no less good looking. I drive through the campus every day on the way to and from work.

And this just started happening (noticing the age difference) over the past several years.

D

woah there, dc duke, just the past several years?

the kids at the local college nearest me, a junior college, have looked like junior high school students to me for more than a decade

and i know we are the same age

but you are in shape so you can still attract the attention of young girls...i assume at GW...unless they think you are an old man now:p

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by jefhatfield


i was always an ass man...he he

but now at 39, i am a man with tits...and i am not fat anymore, it's just that i have flabby skin and my darn areolas have grown...sometimes i just should have stayed in bed

aging sucks...starting at about age 30:p :p :p

I have tits too but there muscle.

[meta-ghost]

Originally posted by Chomolungma
I think the criteria for physical beauty remains the same for both sex and it is timeless. We will always find those who are symmetrical and well porportion to be attractive. Evidence for this idea is in our cosmetic industries (from makeup to plastic surgery).


Notions of beauty are culturally determined. Even within a culture, they change over time. Some tribes in Africa prize very large women. Always have. Even in the West, a few hundred years ago, large was "in". It was a sign of wealth/health. You cannot look at beauty independent of it's cultural context.

Look at the latest academic studies of Playboy (no, I don't read it..) where a shift in the past 50 years of centerfolds from "hourglass" to a less curvey "androgenous" look.

Remember one thing. "Science" is amoung the least objective fields in our society. If they want to find symmetry as a basis for physical beauty, they will.

[wdlove]

Thank you edvniow, your a swell person! Hope your computer problem resolves quickly. Will enjoy this till you are ready with something else!
;)

[ExoticFish]

When I was a young teenager I like girls that were "cute" but you could tell that they had a very sexual side but they didn't show it. I never cared about the size of their breasts or anything like that, as long as they looked good. When I was a senior in highschool I was DONE with women for a while, I just wanted to chill and hang out with my friends and such... then I saw this gorgeous girl in my english class. She was everything I never knew I wanted. She was gorgeous, cute, drop dead sexy, smart looking, and everything else I had always hoped for. It's 3 years later and we're still together and happier than ever. The thing is that my perception of beauty and hers are far from the same. She does not see herself as all that beautiful and sexy at all because she wants to look exactly like the hoe of the week on TV. And although she DOES agree with me that she has wonderful... never you mind! :D every other part of her body she wishes looked different. We grew up differently and in turn our views on beauty are very different. While she always wants to have the fashion of the week I see her as becoming more beautiful and sexy every day... truely beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. ( that saying hasn't been around so long for nothing! ) ;)

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by jefhatfield


woah there, dc duke, just the past several years?

the kids at the local college nearest me, a junior college, have looked like junior high school students to me for more than a decade

but you are in shape so you can still attract the attention of young girls...i assume at GW...unless they think you are an old man now:p

Um, I'm married - to an older woman (only by a year) :D - but a lot of the people play frisbee with are much younger and I don't look my age. So like I said, its only been recently that it been an issue. A couple years ago I dated a 23 year old when I was 36 - that's sort of what did it. You get to know that the gap in age has a huge affect on how you relate to things, even though physically its not as obvious.

D

[Roger1]

If you're a younger guy, and a woman in her 30's (especially mid 30's) wants to tadpoll with you, do NOT turn that offer down.

Ahhh. Had a couple when I was in my teens. The things I learned :) :) :)

Anyhow, I have been married just over 11 years now. When I met my wife, she was slim, with just below shoulder length hair, and kind of cute. We got along really well, and well, got married. Even though I was physically attracted to her (great smile, nice butt), more importantly, I was attracted to her personality. We got along really well together, and that is most likely why we are still together.

Speaking of nice butts, the kids are in bed now, so I think I'll go look at my wife's for a while :) practice the things I learned as a teenager , ;) and see if I can make her smile :D

[wdlove]

Most of the dates I had were as a result of being introduced. I liked looking at pretty girls than and still do, attraction. For a real relationship its personality that counts, been married for 30 years. My wife is almost 2 years older. Its has always been that female body parts are for looking not toughing, unless married. I have no experience prior to my wife. But love with the women that you are in love, nothing can match the experience! :)

[Giaguara]

it has changed nut not significantly.

i want still to be unhealthily skinny as always.

and i still like guys with dark hair.. :D

and i still prefer the brain to the look in guys... :cool:

[beez7777]

Originally posted by ExoticFish
When I was a young teenager I like girls that were "cute" but you could tell that they had a very sexual side but they didn't show it. I never cared about the size of their breasts or anything like that, as long as they looked good.

that's pretty much how i see it, as long as they're decently attractive. i think that a girl with a nice face would be more attractive than someone who only had a nice body, although that helps too ;). they also need to be intelligent as well- personality plays a great role. although i'm still pretty young this has been the way i've always seen it. being a sophomore in an all boys school has somewhat hindered my selection though. :(