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musio
Jun 13, 2013, 11:19 AM
http://thingswrongwithios7.wordpress.com

They seem to have made it harder to use the iPhone and see information at a glance.

batting1000
Jun 13, 2013, 11:25 AM
It's clear he hasn't even used iOS 7 and is just going off screenshots.

fivedots
Jun 13, 2013, 11:27 AM
It's clear he hasn't even used iOS 7 and is just going off screenshots.

Maybe, but I agree that the Today view isn't structured enough. I find it visually difficult to consume. Text for weather is silly. Giant agenda floating in the middle of nowhere instead of an appointment list is inefficient.

And the missing dots on Calendar's month view also irk me.

schizbomb
Jun 13, 2013, 11:35 AM
I just assumed the dots were a bug or oversight and would be there for release.

No way they take that out, right?

fivedots
Jun 13, 2013, 11:41 AM
I just assumed the dots were a bug or oversight and would be there for release.

No way they take that out, right?

Maybe, maybe not. Anybody who seriously uses the calendar likely has dots on every single day, rendering it pretty useless. I like it, but it's not a great universal solution.

pottyvick
Jun 13, 2013, 11:43 AM
I agree about the calendar not showing events when in month view but would not call that a deal breaker.

bgro
Jun 13, 2013, 12:42 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Anybody who seriously uses the calendar likely has dots on every single day, rendering it pretty useless. I like it, but it's not a great universal solution.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with this statement. The dots are very useful when doing a quick glance at the monthly view. I use month view almost exclusively to see what I have going on each day and the dots/appointment list under the month was very useful in iOS 6. I really hope they bring it back as I find the calendar useless without the dots.

Matter of opinion of course.

fivedots
Jun 13, 2013, 01:12 PM
I wouldn't necessarily agree with this statement. The dots are very useful when doing a quick glance at the monthly view. I use month view almost exclusively to see what I have going on each day and the dots/appointment list under the month was very useful in iOS 6. I really hope they bring it back as I find the calendar useless without the dots.

Matter of opinion of course.

Oh, I definitely agree they are useful. I used to rely on them all the time, but now that I use the calendar more and more, have my work calendar synced to it, my department's planning calendar, and my TV show calendar, I have dots on every day so unfortunately they do not help me anymore.

musio
Jun 13, 2013, 01:55 PM
having a preview of what is happening on the day with the pane on ios 6 is massively important. ios7 is just a calendar now. You can download pictures of calendars as wallpaper.

C DM
Jun 13, 2013, 08:30 PM
having a preview of what is happening on the day with the pane on ios 6 is massively important. ios7 is just a calendar now. You can download pictures of calendars as wallpaper. Well, at least for today you can see it in the Today section in Notification Center. Also, if you click on search in calendar (basically at the top, to the right) you will get an "Agenda" like view.

gadget123
Jun 13, 2013, 08:37 PM
It's clear he hasn't even used iOS 7 and is just going off screenshots.

A "screen shot" is the same as actual use. The colours remain the same.

The biggest dislike is icons and colours. Using it will just be the same colours people hate?

batting1000
Jun 13, 2013, 08:52 PM
A "screen shot" is the same as actual use. The colours remain the same.

The biggest dislike is icons and colours. Using it will just be the same colours people hate?

I find that it looks better when I actually use it. You can't judge a book by it's cover. You have to actually read it.

C DM
Jun 13, 2013, 08:54 PM
I find that it looks better when I actually use it. You can't judge a book by it's cover. You have to actually read it.Strangely enough I often find screenshots nice looking, but when I use it I don't find the looks as "nice".

gadget123
Jun 13, 2013, 08:56 PM
I find that it looks better when I actually use it. You can't judge a book by it's cover. You have to actually read it.

From the videos it looks very slow and laggy. Might change with Ipad 5 and 5S.

For me the OS looks very light on quality textures yet seems very luggish especially the multi tasking and home screen.

musio
Jun 14, 2013, 02:29 AM
Well, at least for today you can see it in the Today section in Notification Center. Also, if you click on search in calendar (basically at the top, to the right) you will get an "Agenda" like view.

the today section there is still scrolling around.
The agenda view is still scrolling around without 'looking' at your month (ie, free dates before or after). Not good for planning compared to ios6

silvermx5
Jun 14, 2013, 08:03 PM
I wouldn't necessarily agree with this statement. The dots are very useful when doing a quick glance at the monthly view. I use month view almost exclusively to see what I have going on each day and the dots/appointment list under the month was very useful in iOS 6. I really hope they bring it back as I find the calendar useless without the dots.

Matter of opinion of course.

I agree 300%!!! The ios7 calendar is useless compared with ios6, with no dots what's the use? To see only "today" and a huge scroll calendar

mikvo
Jun 15, 2013, 12:13 AM
How about repeating events? Past versions have allowed such a limited set of options for creating repeating events. That remains the only reason I use a third party calendar, which ultimately forces me to use two different calendar apps. Any changes in this area for iOS 7?

rmeadejr
Jun 15, 2013, 12:20 AM
i was reading the release notes for iOS 7 beta 1. this is what it says about Calendar:


Calendar
Known Issues

Edits made to iCloud Calendar events off-device will not push to the device.

Workaround: Update the calendar manually or trigger a fetch by modifying an event on-device.

if they think that is the only known issue, thank god we report the bugs. make sure you report everything that is wrong with the calendar here: https://bugreport.apple.com

joneun
Jun 15, 2013, 07:20 AM
I do not like iOS7, it better change dramatically before release.

joerichards
Jun 17, 2013, 05:25 PM
i am so frustrated with the design of the calendar app... yes no dots (and to argue they are useless in a busy month, well then the solution should be to improve them then from perhaps light grey to black depending on number of appointments in that day)...

and no preview below of list of appointments, also very frustrating for planning.

finally... the 'Today'... if my next few hours is clear... well then Today doesn't help me.. what about what I have that evening? no idea...

And you cant Tap anything in Today to go to the calendar either...

I really hope these things change, but knowing Apple I just dont hold much hope that they will.

BasicGreatGuy
Jun 17, 2013, 05:32 PM
I do not like iOS7, it better change dramatically before release.

Not going to happen.

darngooddesign
Jun 17, 2013, 05:41 PM
From the videos it looks very slow and laggy. Might change with Ipad 5 and 5S.

Might change when people aren't overreacting to the first beta.

musio
Jun 17, 2013, 11:10 PM
The more people slam apple with feedback the bigger chance for change

musio
Jun 24, 2013, 01:18 PM
any changes with the calendar app in beta 2 or is it still as functional as a still picture (http://thingswrongwithios7.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/calendar-app/)?

C DM
Jun 24, 2013, 01:57 PM
any changes with the calendar app in beta 2 or is it still as functional as a still picture (http://thingswrongwithios7.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/calendar-app/)?Still pretty much the same (although somewhat more responsive) as far as I can tell.

musio
Jun 24, 2013, 02:14 PM
Disappointed but thank you :)

ncsmith4
Jul 8, 2013, 09:07 PM
The dots are BACK!!! DEFINITELY a welcome (re)addition with Beta 3, but why not have the months scroll sideways (like the weeks do), and put the preview pane (back) under the months???

daviddth
Jul 8, 2013, 10:57 PM
The dots are BACK!!! DEFINITELY a welcome (re)addition with Beta 3, but why not have the months scroll sideways (like the weeks do), and put the preview pane (back) under the months???

And color the dots to the calendar color. I have 4 calendar's here: Mine, Wifes, Sons and Family, and each is a different color. It would be great instead of a grey dot under the date the color of the calendar that has the item is displayed. If there are multiple different ones from different calendars then there is plenty of room for 4 or more dots under the date

flatfoot99
Jul 8, 2013, 11:40 PM
And color the dots to the calendar color. I have 4 calendar's here: Mine, Wifes, Sons and Family, and each is a different color. It would be great instead of a grey dot under the date the color of the calendar that has the item is displayed. If there are multiple different ones from different calendars then there is plenty of room for 4 or more dots under the date

I agree... and I think its coming. Why would they just use a grey one?

musio
Jul 9, 2013, 12:42 AM
Possibly because apple doesn't want to re-add these features. It takes a few lines of code to get the colours back but apple have placed the look of ios 7 as much more important than features. It could have easily been implemented in beta 3 when they added dots. It doesn't take a lot of effort.

ncsmith4
Jul 9, 2013, 12:49 AM
I have quite a few events on each day and I have like 10 different "calendars." It would be very messy (for me) to have all those dots. I just need the dot on the day like it used to be.

But I NEED the "at a glance / quick view" pane back at the bottom. Jumping to a day every time you tap a day is not going to work.

If this is how the BM is, I'll have to go with Fantastical. Sad, cuz I'd MUCH RATHER use stock iOS apps.

nicolanicola
Sep 24, 2013, 03:51 AM
I wouldn't necessarily agree with this statement. The dots are very useful when doing a quick glance at the monthly view. I use month view almost exclusively to see what I have going on each day and the dots/appointment list under the month was very useful in iOS 6. I really hope they bring it back as I find the calendar useless without the dots.

Matter of opinion of course.

I agree wholeheartedly. I wrote a whole blog post (http://huddersfieldwebsitedesigner.co.uk/ios7-rushed-untested-or-not-thought-about-the-calendar-app/) about this.

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Possibly because apple doesn't want to re-add these features. It takes a few lines of code to get the colours back but apple have placed the look of ios 7 as much more important than features. It could have easily been implemented in beta 3 when they added dots. It doesn't take a lot of effort.

I know :(. They used to be all about ease of use, now it's about how minimal it looks.