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preyan
Jun 15, 2013, 12:19 PM
I really want to get an ATV but am wondering what your opinion is on an upgrade coming by end of the year?
I am willing to wait till December if need be but just wondering.

I know no one really knows but based on history, what's your take?
Thanks :apple:



SandboxGeneral
Jun 15, 2013, 12:32 PM
I really want to get an ATV but am wondering what your opinion is on an upgrade coming by end of the year?
I am willing to wait till December if need be but just wondering.

I know no one really knows but based on history, what's your take?
Thanks :apple:

It's really difficult to say as Apple has had no real schedule of releases for this device. You can review our Buyers Guide on the Apple TV (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Apple_TV) and see the history of it.

I think if you want one now, go ahead and get one. No one knows if there is another one coming or if the supposed iTV will be released this year or at all.

Lance-AR
Jun 15, 2013, 03:08 PM
If a new device comes out this year, I think it's safe to say it would happen when the holiday season products are released. If you it doesn't come by the end of October, I bet it won't come before March.

Peace
Jun 15, 2013, 03:22 PM
It's also a safe bet to assume any new apple product will have the faster 802.11ac wireless. So if a new Apple TV does come out in the future it will probably have 802.11ac.

US Marine
Jun 15, 2013, 03:41 PM
I would just go for it. Even if they update it soon, I honestly can't think of anything they could add to make you regret buying the old one. It has Hulu, Netflix, iTunes, and AirPlay. Honestly what more could you want out of the device? A faster wireless capability? That is a bad selling point, as even when streaming full 1080 HD content, you aren't straining the bandwidth capabilities of the current 802.11a/b/g/n chip.

preyan
Jun 15, 2013, 03:42 PM
It's really difficult to say as Apple has had no real schedule of releases for this device. You can review our Buyers Guide on the Apple TV (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Apple_TV) and see the history of it.

I think if you want one now, go ahead and get one. No one knows if there is another one coming or if the supposed iTV will be released this year or at all.


Actually, I had a look at it earlier this week, thanks.
After I posted this, I went to Wiki to see the release dates for all 3 generations, plus the minor update for the last one.

Very inconsistent to say the least when it comes to Apple TV. I really don't need it now and guess I'll just wait till end of this year. Though my mind is telling me, wait for the next generation...whenever that will be :D
I mean I've never had it all this time so its not like I'm missing something in my life that I use to have :D

Just that I'm gearing up for an expensive couple of months and am waiting for the next generation:
iPad Mini
MacBook Pro with Retina Display
Apple TV
...and if there is a new releases this year...iPod touch

KiwiAdventure
Jun 15, 2013, 05:13 PM
Forget the iPad mini and buy the iPad 4.

SandboxGeneral
Jun 15, 2013, 06:15 PM
Forget the iPad mini and buy the iPad 4.

Why? He didn't express any interest in a full size iPad.

Che Castro
Jun 15, 2013, 11:32 PM
Why? He didn't express any interest in a full size iPad.

I think he meant to say the ps4
,there's a thread about that in the ipad forum

spacepower7
Jun 16, 2013, 12:34 AM
I really want to get an ATV but am wondering what your opinion is on an upgrade coming by end of the year?
I am willing to wait till December if need be but just wondering.

I know no one really knows but based on history, what's your take?
Thanks :apple:

It is what it is.

It may change in the future, maybe it won't because contracts/licenses/TV Networks.

For the things it does now, it's better than my ROKU or WDTV, it's a no brainier.

The only exception would be if you have Amazon Prime, no NetFlix, and no iOS devices. Then maybe a Roku would be better? Still probably not but depends on individual usage.

.

arnabdas
Jun 16, 2013, 01:49 AM
this is probably the best time to buy Apple TV. WWDC announcements have concluded and there's nothing in the horizon as far as TV is concerned from Apple in the next few months. Also, considering Apple TV is $99, you can't go wrong with it. The functionality it offers is quite extraordinary, just the AirPlay and Mirroring makes it worth it.

SandboxGeneral
Jun 16, 2013, 08:53 AM
I think he meant to say the ps4
,there's a thread about that in the ipad forum

His statement was rather precise, how did you extrapolate the PS4 from that?

MindsEye
Jun 16, 2013, 12:56 PM
If you can wait then i would wait, especially if one of your primary uses will be Airplay mirroring. The chip might see a modest upgrade but wireless and hopefully wired Gigabit speeds would be a huge performance gain for 1080p videos in particular.

If it's not updated this year then my guess would be early next year.

arnabdas
Jun 16, 2013, 02:58 PM
Here's the thing. Even if Apple TV upgrade brings in. 802.11ac wifi capability, you'll have to get hold of the very latest AirPort Extreme to make the whole setup work. Also your macbook and iPad and iPhone need to be compatible with that kind of wifi too. So you are probably looking at an investment upwards of $1000 to make the whole thing work at optimum level. Or you could just buy Apple TV now, experience it, and if you like the thing, upgrade devices later in the day. As they say, if you wanna wait for the next big thing in technology you'll be kept waiting forever.

steve-p
Jun 18, 2013, 04:16 AM
Buy now if you want one. It's $99, not a massive expense in the general scheme of things.

zedsdead
Jun 18, 2013, 08:14 AM
All I want is proper 4x3 support for iPad in education mirroring, and folders again for TV shows.

Irishman
Jun 20, 2013, 10:18 AM
Buying recommendation for the AppleTV is ALWAYS buy.

At this point, new hardware that anyone has a line on can offer little to nothing over the existing model.

Buying more than one ATV? Now that becomes a whole nother animal. :)

HE15MAN
Jun 20, 2013, 10:26 AM
I think I am going to sell my ATV2 and buy two ATV3's with the money

scapegoat81
Jun 20, 2013, 10:32 AM
I was thinking the same thing, but I went ahead & bought it anyway. If another comes out that's worth buying, ill just use this one on my secondary tv in my bedroom. It'll make my cord cutting decision a lot easier on my wife lol

Ralphalph
Jun 20, 2013, 10:51 AM
I would get it, it's a great device as it sits. Also, it's $99, and if a new one come out it would be easy to resell for about half that on ebay.

kevink2
Jun 23, 2013, 03:55 PM
I've been wondering too. After getting burned, buying a Apple Extreme just weeks before the new model was announced, I didn't want to buy the ATV just to have it superseded a couple weeks later. But I guess it IS only $95.

Mainly want it so I can do netflix streaming in the bedroom, and the Airplay functionality for a few shows I've purchased through iTunes.

I don't see buying a smart TV at this time, which is why I went about the cheapest 40" I could find earlier this year. I can see the "smart" tvs being very outdated pretty fast. Something will be the limiting factor. storage. RAM. CPU.

Might be part of the reason the long expected Apple Television hasn't been released. Is Apple ready to release a TV where people will still be able to use the smart capabilities 8-10 years later? The first Apple iPhones still work for voice/texting. But the other features make them pretty limited now. No current OS, RAM is limited, etc.

brentsg
Jun 23, 2013, 04:52 PM
I've been wondering too. After getting burned, buying a Apple Extreme just weeks before the new model was announced, I didn't want to buy the ATV just to have it superseded a couple weeks later. But I guess it IS only $95.

They were about to ratify a new WiFi standard so that one should have been easy to see coming.

Photics
Jun 23, 2013, 04:55 PM
I've been waiting to get an Apple TV because it doesn't have an app store yet. I don't know how long I'll have to wait for that. :rolleyes:

mrmarts
Jun 24, 2013, 06:47 AM
I've been waiting to get an Apple TV because it doesn't have an app store yet. I don't know how long I'll have to wait for that. :rolleyes:

I just a Apple TV today the first out of three, but should the Apple TV get a app store will it be made available as download for the Apple TV 3.

takeshi74
Jun 24, 2013, 03:38 PM
I don't see buying a smart TV at this time, which is why I went about the cheapest 40" I could find earlier this year. I can see the "smart" tvs being very outdated pretty fast. Something will be the limiting factor. storage. RAM. CPU.
Doesn't really matter IMO as long as the TV has inputs. The screen won't be quickly outdated and you can always add a box. My Viera's a smart TV but I didn't buy it because it's a smart TV.

darster
Jun 28, 2013, 01:32 AM
If Apple wants to win, there is one simple solution. Win the bid for the NFL package which expires after the 2014 season and DirecTV has stated they no longer want. The NFL package, by far, is the biggest sport jewel you can get. Apple gets that, and they will sell at least 10 million ATV devices in a month, plus a share of the $300 a year price.

StinDaWg
Jun 28, 2013, 06:06 PM
If Apple wants to win, there is one simple solution. Win the bid for the NFL package which expires after the 2014 season and DirecTV has stated they no longer want. The NFL package, by far, is the biggest sport jewel you can get. Apple gets that, and they will sell at least 10 million ATV devices in a month, plus a share of the $300 a year price.
They aren't going to make it exclusive anymore, it's going to be available on every provider who wants to carry it.

darster
Jun 28, 2013, 06:36 PM
They aren't going to make it exclusive anymore, it's going to be available on every provider who wants to carry it.

You never know what some big company may do. For now DirecTV chose not to bid again, so the NFL will offer it to others. However, if Apple, Amazon, or someone else offer a huge wad of money for exclusive rights, the NFL may change their tune. It still has 2 years to go under the current contract, so a lot may change.

StinDaWg
Jun 29, 2013, 12:23 AM
You never know what some big company may do. For now DirecTV chose not to bid again, so the NFL will offer it to others. However, if Apple, Amazon, or someone else offer a huge wad of money for exclusive rights, the NFL may change their tune. It still has 2 years to go under the current contract, so a lot may change.
For the sake of the NFL I hope they don't. The quality would be terrible streaming online compared to what you get with cable or satellite. I just don't see apple going this route. I think they will try to throw their weight into getting all the channels onto an apple tv like device before they would try to target the NFL only. The problem is getting all the deals made. These corporations won't let go of the old cable model until it no longer becomes profitable.

richman555
Jun 29, 2013, 06:52 AM
I've owned every iteration of the Apply TV and there is absolutely no reason to wait to buy one.

The biggest argument had always been that it didn't support 1080p HD content... and now with ATV 3 it does.

Simply for $99 you can't go wrong.

As for the NFL Sunday ticket argument, the quality would be just fine dependent on your internet connection speed. I watch many MLB games with no issues at all.

:)

nosnhojm
Jun 29, 2013, 08:32 AM
It's also a safe bet to assume any new apple product will have the faster 802.11ac wireless. So if a new Apple TV does come out in the future it will probably have 802.11ac.

I disagree. The Apple TV does not saturate 802.11n as-is (streaming 1080p content only requires ~5 Mbps, while 802.11n provides 300+ Mbps), so why include a more expensive component that would increase the price of the device? This is the same reason why the Apple TV has a 10/100 ethernet port instead of a gigabit ethernet port.

BeachChair
Jun 30, 2013, 08:17 AM
The risk in buying an Apple TV is about the lowest you can get. Even if an upgrade comes out, you can still use the ATV3 somewhere else in the house as a Netflix device, or Airplay receiver.

If not, you can sell it on Ebay or Craigslist for a minor loss.

Just buy it, there is no way you are ever gonna regret it.

Irishman
Jun 30, 2013, 09:19 AM
They aren't going to make it exclusive anymore, it's going to be available on every provider who wants to carry it.

Time Warner in our market has Sunday Ticket now.