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MacRumors
Jun 19, 2013, 07:07 PM
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http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/04/bestbuy.jpgBest Buy has recalled 5,100 third-party replacement MacBook batteries (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/best-buy-recalls-batteries-over-fire-risk) after at least 13 reports of the batteries catching fire.

Both the black and white varieties sold between September 2008 and June 2012 -- unit numbers MC-MBOOK13B and MC-MBOOK13W -- have been recalled and Best Buy will give customers replacements or a Best Buy gift card. Best Buy did note that they were not the only company to sell the batteries.

Gizmodo received this statement (http://gizmodo.com/best-buy-is-recalling-thousands-of-macbook-pro-batterie-514405760) from Best Buy:
After receiving reports from customers of these lithium ion batteries overheating when charging, we believe the right thing to do is to contact our customers and ask them to return the product for replacement or for a Best Buy gift card. While we are only one of many companies that may have sold these batteries, we feel they are a potential fire and burn hazard and want to keep our customers safe.The Consumer Product Safety Commission page about the recall (http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/Recall-Alerts/2013/Best-Buy-Recalls-ATG-Replacement-Batteries-for-the-MacBook-Pro/) says the batteries are for the MacBook Pro, but they are in fact replacements for the black and white plastic MacBooks (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834996926).

Article Link: Best Buy Recalls Third-Party MacBook Batteries Over Fire Risk (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/19/best-buy-recalls-third-party-macbook-batteries-over-fire-risk/)



WhoDaKat
Jun 19, 2013, 07:20 PM
Totally worth the $1.82 you saved going with the non-apple batteries.

termite
Jun 19, 2013, 07:38 PM
Totally worth the $1.82 you saved going with the non-apple batteries.

For my MacBook1,1 (which is only worth $100), OWC sells a new battery for $89 and Apple sells it for $129. That's somewhat more than two-bucks.

theBB
Jun 19, 2013, 07:51 PM
For my MacBook1,1 (which is only worth $100), OWC sells a new battery for $89 and Apple sells it for $129. That's somewhat more than two-bucks.
I am all for saving money on accessories in general, but since a friend of mine told me about his home being burnt down due to a faulty battery or charger (hard to tell for the firefighters sorting through the charred remains) I am a lot more apprehensive about batteries.

madsci954
Jun 19, 2013, 07:56 PM
I wouldn't trust Geek Squad with a Windows machine let alone a Mac. I only go to BB if I need a peripheral and can't wait on the shipping with Newegg.

Unggoy Murderer
Jun 19, 2013, 08:19 PM
For my MacBook1,1 (which is only worth $100), OWC sells a new battery for $89 and Apple sells it for $129. That's somewhat more than two-bucks.
Yeah, and 100x more likely to burn your house to the ground... somewhat more than 40 bucks.

Another reason why I'll buy the proper Apple gear: 100% compatibility, and virtually zero risk to the device, me and my family. Only thing that gets upset is my wallet, not like it has feelings. :rolleyes:

jdogg836
Jun 19, 2013, 09:32 PM
I wouldn't trust Geek Squad with a Windows machine let alone a Mac. I only go to BB if I need a peripheral and can't wait on the shipping with Newegg.

In all fairness, ATG batteries are sold at Batteries Plus, Amazon, and other retailers as well.

MrNomNoms
Jun 19, 2013, 09:39 PM
For my MacBook1,1 (which is only worth $100), OWC sells a new battery for $89 and Apple sells it for $129. That's somewhat more than two-bucks.

If you're shelling out even $89 for a battery let alone $129 for a computer that is 7 years old then I think there are greater things that need looking at.

bbeagle
Jun 19, 2013, 10:02 PM
If you're shelling out even $89 for a battery let alone $129 for a computer that is 7 years old then I think there are greater things that need looking at.

It's like an old reliable car. Pay $2000 to fix the engine, and keep the reliable car you know the 'bugs', buy a used car for more than $2000 that you know nothing about or buy a new car for $15,000.

Same with my reliable white macbook. Bought it in 2006. I got a new battery for it earlier this year. This macbook will serve me well for another few years, and save me a lot of money for 'better' things like vacations.

rijiMacDij
Jun 19, 2013, 11:06 PM
MMMMM, reliable Apple Batteries, are you guys kidding?

My BlackBook has an original Apple battery which has blown up (expanded) to the point where it interferes with the track pad operation.

The top case of the laptop has broken down to the point where the edge has chipped off about 40% of the way around.

I recall Apple batteries being responsible for a number of MacBooks catching alight in the past.

Apple have side-stepped their own safety recalls in my case, implying that batteries expanding to the point where the machine cannot function and the case disintegrating to the point where i have to keep the housing intact with 100 MPH tape and glue are not safety issues and should not be repaired free of charge. These issues were fixed free of charge for many owners in the USA but in Australia they tend to look at you as if you are an idiot when you mention product safety recalls.

I admit I have had very few problems with most of my Apple gear, (12" & 14" iBooks, 15" & 20" G4 iMacs, 17" PowerBooks, MacBook Pros 08, 09, 11, G5 2x2 Tower, iPod touch, iPhone 3GS, 4S) but the early MacBooks were *LEMONS*

hkim1983
Jun 19, 2013, 11:25 PM
MMMMM, reliable Apple Batteries, are you guys kidding?

My BlackBook has an original Apple battery which has blown up (expanded) to the point where it interferes with the track pad operation.



I had the same issue with my '08 Alu MB. Apparently, it was because I didn't "exercise" my battery enough and kept it on the charger 90% of the time I used it. I was covered under Applecare though, and they replaced it without any issues...so it wasn't that big of a deal.

iMikeT
Jun 20, 2013, 04:53 AM
Word of advice form a former Best Buy employee, don't buy anything from Best Buy, ever.

Kebabselector
Jun 20, 2013, 07:03 AM
If you're shelling out even $89 for a battery let alone $129 for a computer that is 7 years old then I think there are greater things that need looking at.

If it still works why replace it. My 2006 Macbook is fine, maybe a little slow processing some images in CS6 but overall perfect for my use.

RightMACatU
Jun 20, 2013, 07:13 AM
Word of advice form a former Best Buy employee, don't buy anything from Best Buy, ever.

I hear you...

[Start sarcasm]
Here in Canada we have great alternatives: Future Shop (oh yeah, they're the same guys), The Source (the dollar store for electronics) and Walmart :D

guzhogi
Jun 20, 2013, 07:41 AM
Had some batteries start smoking in a few MacBooks for the school district I work at. Fortunately, we're getting rid of the 4-5 year old MacBooks this summer & getting new MacBook Airs. Not sure if the new MBAs announced at WWDC or the 2012 MBAs. Either way, we shouldn't have battery problems for a while. Fingers crossed.

JSenders
Jun 20, 2013, 08:19 AM
For my MacBook1,1 (which is only worth $100), OWC sells a new battery for $89 and Apple sells it for $129. That's somewhat more than two-bucks.

Actually if you take your old battery in with you and make a Genius Bar appointment, the cost is $99 as opposed to $129 buying it off the floor. However the floor item has a 1 year warranty while the repair/replacement item only has a 90 day warranty.

John.B
Jun 20, 2013, 08:22 AM
Best Buy is going ghetto with all the Dynex, etc. no-name crap they stock. If you're going to buy a second battery for your MacBook, spend the few extra bucks for the one from Apple, not some "ATG" brand no one has ever heard of.

JSenders
Jun 20, 2013, 08:37 AM
MMMMM, reliable Apple Batteries, are you guys kidding?

My BlackBook has an original Apple battery which has blown up (expanded) to the point where it interferes with the track pad operation.

The top case of the laptop has broken down to the point where the edge has chipped off about 40% of the way around.

I recall Apple batteries being responsible for a number of MacBooks catching alight in the past.

Apple have side-stepped their own safety recalls in my case, implying that batteries expanding to the point where the machine cannot function and the case disintegrating to the point where i have to keep the housing intact with 100 MPH tape and glue are not safety issues and should not be repaired free of charge. These issues were fixed free of charge for many owners in the USA but in Australia they tend to look at you as if you are an idiot when you mention product safety recalls.

I admit I have had very few problems with most of my Apple gear, (12" & 14" iBooks, 15" & 20" G4 iMacs, 17" PowerBooks, MacBook Pros 08, 09, 11, G5 2x2 Tower, iPod touch, iPhone 3GS, 4S) but the early MacBooks were *LEMONS*

I used to work for Apple, you clearly don't understand the policies and procedures. First of all, the top case chipping had/has a quality program for it in place. Any non-unibody Macbook that has chipping on the top case and/or bezel can get a free replacement as long as it is under 5 years old. So if you didn't get your top case replaced in that time, boohoo. Second, regarding batteries, it is true that some batteries expand when they reach EOL and that is totally normal. I have seen this happen on EVERY model Macbook and Macbook Pro, even Macbook Airs. If the machine is under warranty, then the battery as well as anything that was affected by it (trackpad and/or top case typically) then that would also be replaced. However if the machine is out of warranty and the battery that has expanded is not under a separate warranty (purchased off the shelf within a year) then it is repaired at cost and is NOT covered. All I can say is that if you notice your trackpad feels stiff and your Macbook isn't sitting flat anymore, then you ought to pull your battery out and take a look at it to see if it is bulging. If it is, replace it immediately.

Now here's the deal. Geniuses won't swap batteries for free that are out of warranty (or anything really) because they are not allowed to. They would have to get approval from a manager in the form of a CS code to cover the repair. However there is one way around it. Non-unibody MacBooks, non-unibody Macbook pros, and the first generation of unibody MacBook Pros (as well as the 2008 aluminum Macbook) all had removable batteries, meaning they are a boxed part that can be bought off of the shelf. Geniuses still have the power to do a POS swap, or a return. This requires no approval from a manager. I used to do it all the time when we were behind at the bar because it is quick and easy. If you push them hard enough, they know they have this option and will swap it just to get you out of their hair. Also if you claim to have bought it off the shelf within the past year but you don't have proof, sometimes they will just swap it. I used to do it to make people happy after they took away all of our power to swap anything at all that was out of warranty. Keep in mind if you have like 900 cycles on your battery, you definitely didn't buy it off of the shelf within the past year :-)

jonnysods
Jun 20, 2013, 09:03 AM
I get mine from eBay. Wonder if those have problems. I haven't had any.

MrNomNoms
Jun 20, 2013, 09:25 AM
It's like an old reliable car. Pay $2000 to fix the engine, and keep the reliable car you know the 'bugs', buy a used car for more than $2000 that you know nothing about or buy a new car for $15,000.

Same with my reliable white macbook. Bought it in 2006. I got a new battery for it earlier this year. This macbook will serve me well for another few years, and save me a lot of money for 'better' things like vacations.

If it still works why replace it. My 2006 Macbook is fine, maybe a little slow processing some images in CS6 but overall perfect for my use.

At some point you have to stand back and ask yourself whether you've reached the point that you're putting more money into it than it is actually worth - do you just keep throwing money at it whilst ignoring the costs that are accruing?

whooleytoo
Jun 20, 2013, 09:32 AM
MMMMM, reliable Apple Batteries, are you guys kidding?

My BlackBook has an original Apple battery which has blown up (expanded) to the point where it interferes with the track pad operation.

The top case of the laptop has broken down to the point where the edge has chipped off about 40% of the way around.

I recall Apple batteries being responsible for a number of MacBooks catching alight in the past.

Apple have side-stepped their own safety recalls in my case, implying that batteries expanding to the point where the machine cannot function and the case disintegrating to the point where i have to keep the housing intact with 100 MPH tape and glue are not safety issues and should not be repaired free of charge. These issues were fixed free of charge for many owners in the USA but in Australia they tend to look at you as if you are an idiot when you mention product safety recalls.

I admit I have had very few problems with most of my Apple gear, (12" & 14" iBooks, 15" & 20" G4 iMacs, 17" PowerBooks, MacBook Pros 08, 09, 11, G5 2x2 Tower, iPod touch, iPhone 3GS, 4S) but the early MacBooks were *LEMONS*

+1000s

We bought several of the first-gen Intel MBPs, and they were very poor. Random restarts (resulting in a battery recall). Bulging batteries lifting the laptop off the desk (with the replacement batteries, not the recalled ones). On one charger, the cable is melting through the insulation near the Magsafe connector. On two devices, the cable between the wall & adaptor stopped working (replaced with a cheapo "kettle lead", which works flawlessly). In my experience, battery/adaptor/cable issues really were the MBP's Achilles heel.

To be fair though, recent (unibody) MBPs are far, far better. (Thankfully! - I can't imagine what would happen if a battery was bulging inside the unibody case! :eek: )

spazzcat
Jun 20, 2013, 09:47 AM
For my MacBook1,1 (which is only worth $100), OWC sells a new battery for $89 and Apple sells it for $129. That's somewhat more than two-bucks.

Did you go to an Apple store first, they more offend then not give you replace at less then retail.

kingtj
Jun 20, 2013, 10:01 AM
I've seen SO many batteries on Dell laptops that hold zero charge now, even on machines only about 1 year old, because their owners constantly use them as desktop machines, charging in a dock.

(This happens a lot where I work, because they decided to issue everyone a portable instead of a desktop -- regardless of how often they actually travel. Some of them only undock the machine once or twice a year when they attend corporate meetings.)

That's not to say that the batteries should start bulging out so you can't even pry them out of the laptop anymore .... but batteries will be batteries. It's pretty tough to design one to where it's guaranteed to never do such a thing. (I've had aluminum soda cans bulge way up on top when they were left in a hot car all day, too. How big and heavy do you want the thing to withstand the pressure?)


I had the same issue with my '08 Alu MB. Apparently, it was because I didn't "exercise" my battery enough and kept it on the charger 90% of the time I used it. I was covered under Applecare though, and they replaced it without any issues...so it wasn't that big of a deal.

Irishman
Jun 20, 2013, 10:10 AM
Word of advice form a former Best Buy employee, don't buy anything from Best Buy, ever.

How come?

jlgolson
Jun 20, 2013, 10:41 AM
SnipThanks for coming in and saying everything I was going to say!

If you bring a bulging battery into the Apple Store, managers will quietly freak out and replace it in my experience.

Val-kyrie
Jun 20, 2013, 07:05 PM
If there is one area where I am disappointed with Apple personally, it has to do with their batteries. I have a Blackbook 2.4GHz and had the battery replaced by Apple after only around 100 cycles on it because it was bulging. They replaced the battery under warranty but after one year and 100 cycles on the Apple replacement, it also started bulging, and I was told it was my problem because it had already been replaced. I need a new battery now and may have to buy one until I can afford a new Mac. It seems to me that there is a problem with Apple's method of charging these batteries.

bbeagle
Jun 20, 2013, 08:01 PM
At some point you have to stand back and ask yourself whether you've reached the point that you're putting more money into it than it is actually worth - do you just keep throwing money at it whilst ignoring the costs that are accruing?

Yes, I assess the cost-value everytime a new MacBook comes out. My 2006 white macbook is still very fast, surfs the web fine, is good for documents, runs Eclipse for development just fine. It's not noticably slower than my Windows PC at work.

I can't upgrade beyond Snow Leopard, but there's nothing compelling for me to upgrade to yet. I also have a 2011 Mac Mini at home I can do things that the MacBook can't, like rip DVDs at a decent speed, and is used as a server for my AppleTV. So, I guess since I have the desktop, my laptop does not need to be 'everything'. This might be why I'm still okay with a 2006 laptop.

charlituna
Jun 21, 2013, 09:43 AM
MMMMM, reliable Apple Batteries, are you guys kidding?

My BlackBook has an original Apple battery which has blown up (expanded) to the point where it interferes with the track pad operation.


Not a shock that a battery only designed to last two years is expanding when it's four years old.


I recall Apple batteries being responsible for a number of MacBooks catching alight in the past.


Proof. How may cases, confirmation of it being an Apple battery and there was no mishandling by anyone.

Or is this going to be another 'iPhone almost explodes on flight' where it turns out the issue was that the owner had the phone repaired outside of Apple and the 'expert' lost a screw under the battery.

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If the machine is under warranty, then the battery as well as anything that was affected by it (trackpad and/or top case typically) then that would also be replaced.

That might have been true when you were there but it's not now. Now, if the battery is 'consumed' and naturally then it is not covered warranty. I took in 3 laptops all between 2.5-3 years old under Apple Care and had to pay for all 3 battery replacements because they were simply used up, not faulty. It's in the terms and conditions for service even

iMikeT
Jun 21, 2013, 01:57 PM
How come?


Poor business practices, crappy third-party products, very few employees actually know the products they sell, disorganized store layout, just to name a few.

jdogg836
Jun 21, 2013, 10:00 PM
disorganized store layout

Disorganized how? I walk in and go to "Computers" when I need a computer product, "Home Theater" for Home Theater goods or accessories, etc.

Irishman
Jun 22, 2013, 08:21 AM
Poor business practices, crappy third-party products, very few employees actually know the products they sell, disorganized store layout, just to name a few.

Care to dig a little deeper into the poor business practices part?

adder7712
Jun 23, 2013, 06:21 AM
Concerning batteries, my MacBook (which I still own and use) had a bulged battery a mere 9 months after receiving it. I shrugged it off but had it replaced in 2011 because it affected trackpad usage.

otismotive77
Jun 23, 2013, 03:16 PM
i don't understand why people buy those low quality third party batteries.