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MacNoobGuy
Jun 20, 2013, 12:42 AM
hey guys, i just wanted to know if OSX Mavericks will support ExFAT or not. i'm about to change all of my hard drives to ExFAT from NTFS and i wanted to know if Mavericks will support ExFAT or not?

i used google but nothing came up...

thanks!

hakuryuu
Jun 20, 2013, 01:03 AM
So.. why? ExFAT really isn't designed for normal disks and is optimized for flash drives (i.e. SDHC). I assume this is for drive sharing between Windows and OSX but honestly NTFS is way more robust than ExFAT.

ExFAT was already supported in ML so I have no reason to believe it won't be supported in Mavericks. Don't have an external drive handy to see what disk utility can do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

Also, according to this post:

http://prateekvjoshi.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/ntfs-write-support-on-os-x-mountain-lion/

ML had "hidden" support for writing to NTFS anyways. I have not tried this as I don't have an external drive that I am about to format NTFS. I may however try to find a drive at work and see if 10.9 has better support for NTFS. I'm a little curious now.

Dalton63841
Jun 20, 2013, 01:03 AM
hey guys, i just wanted to know if OSX Mavericks will support ExFAT or not. i'm about to change all of my hard drives to ExFAT from NTFS and i wanted to know if Mavericks will support ExFAT or not?

i used google but nothing came up...

thanks!

Disk Utility has the option to format as exFAT in Mavericks.

w0lf
Jun 20, 2013, 01:04 AM
I don't believe it can be installed on exFAT but it can read and write to exFAT just fine. I use a 250gb hard drive as an iTunes/Steam/Documents share between Win8 and Mavericks.

leman
Jun 20, 2013, 08:47 AM
exFAT has been supported in OS X since Snow Leopard...

Mr. Retrofire
Jun 20, 2013, 04:39 PM
exFAT has been supported in OS X since Snow Leopard...
Mac OS X 10.6.5 was the first version which supported exFAT read/write operations. On the Windows platform, MS provides drivers for Windows XP (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955704/en-us) and newer (newer versions (7+?) have already the drivers).

MacNoobGuy
Jun 20, 2013, 11:49 PM
So.. why? ExFAT really isn't designed for normal disks and is optimized for flash drives (i.e. SDHC). I assume this is for drive sharing between Windows and OSX but honestly NTFS is way more robust than ExFAT.

ExFAT was already supported in ML so I have no reason to believe it won't be supported in Mavericks. Don't have an external drive handy to see what disk utility can do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

Also, according to this post:

http://prateekvjoshi.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/ntfs-write-support-on-os-x-mountain-lion/

ML had "hidden" support for writing to NTFS anyways. I have not tried this as I don't have an external drive that I am about to format NTFS. I may however try to find a drive at work and see if 10.9 has better support for NTFS. I'm a little curious now.

well yeah i just want to use ExFAT for external drives and wipe my current NTFS drives.

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exFAT has been supported in OS X since Snow Leopard...

i know, but i thought they might drop support for it.

Synaesthesia242
Jun 21, 2013, 01:59 AM
Well I can confirm ExFat works fine on Mavericks. Can't imagine why they would drop support either.

MisterMe
Jun 21, 2013, 09:02 AM
well yeah i just want to use ExFAT for external drives and wipe my current NTFS drives. ...Like hakuryuu, I am confused why you want to sacrifice the proven reliability of NTFS in favor of exFAT. exFAT is not going to be any more reliable just because you use it on an external drive.

outie2k
Jun 21, 2013, 01:23 PM
Like hakuryuu, I am confused why you want to sacrifice the proven reliability of NTFS in favor of exFAT. exFAT is not going to be any more reliable just because you use it on an external drive.
Maybe because you can't write to NTFS in Mac?

MisterMe
Jun 21, 2013, 01:30 PM
Maybe because you can't write to NTFS in Mac?Speak for yourself. I write to NTFS with no problems. I use my Mac to format removable drives as NTFS with no problems.

itickings
Jun 21, 2013, 02:22 PM
Speak for yourself. I write to NTFS with no problems. I use my Mac to format removable drives as NTFS with no problems.

Not without third-party software, you don't.

Bear
Jun 21, 2013, 02:53 PM
Like hakuryuu, I am confused why you want to sacrifice the proven reliability of NTFS in favor of exFAT. exFAT is not going to be any more reliable just because you use it on an external drive.exFAT has been around long enough that I'm sure we would've heard of any reliability issues with it.

MisterMe
Jun 21, 2013, 10:29 PM
Not without third-party software, you don't.How on Earth is that relevant?

MikhailT
Jun 21, 2013, 10:42 PM
How on Earth is that relevant?

Because the reliable third-party apps that offers this cost money. Why would people want to install third party apps and pay just to write to NTFS external drives, when they can just use the free built-in exFAT support?

Source: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/06/review-is-microsofts-new-data-sharing-system-a-cross-platform-savior/

MacNoobGuy
Jun 21, 2013, 11:04 PM
Because the reliable third-party apps that offers this cost money. Why would people want to install third party apps and pay just to write to NTFS external drives, when they can just use the free built-in exFAT support?

Source: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/06/review-is-microsofts-new-data-sharing-system-a-cross-platform-savior/

but will Mavericks support ExFAT?

MikhailT
Jun 22, 2013, 01:05 AM
but will Mavericks support ExFAT?

Did you miss the other posts? It has been supported since Snow Leopard, 10.6.5, so yes, it will be supported in Mavericks.

itickings
Jun 22, 2013, 03:15 AM
How on Earth is that relevant?

Because a reasonable interpretation of the post you replied to would be "Write without requiring third-party solutions" rather than "There is no way a Mac ever could write NTFS". Hence the clarification.

Additionally, MikhailT makes a relevant point.

maflynn
Jun 22, 2013, 05:32 AM
but will Mavericks support ExFAT?

Unless apple specifically removed support of this file system in Mavericks, yes it does. Based on the prior posts other members already confirmed this for you.

MisterMe
Jun 22, 2013, 09:43 AM
Because a reasonable interpretation of the post you replied to would be "Write without requiring third-party solutions" rather than "There is no way a Mac ever could write NTFS". ...No, that is not a reasonable interpretation. By the same logic that outie2k asserted that Macs can't write NTFS, he can also assert that Macs cannot read Photoshop files.

itickings
Jun 22, 2013, 12:30 PM
No, that is not a reasonable interpretation. By the same logic that outie2k asserted that Macs can't write NTFS, he can also assert that Macs cannot read Photoshop files.

Since the question starting this thread was whether or not Mavericks will support ExFat, it is very easy to assume that we are talking about what Mavericks (or at least OSX) supports. I therefore pointed out that third-party software was required for NTFS since it would be very easy to get the wrong impression reading the thread, ergo very relevant.

This is obviously going nowhere pretty fast, so I'm leaving this discussion. I mean, your contrived Photoshop-example isn't even making sense (or for that matter clashing with my reasonable interpretation if it did), so... :p

Feel free to reply and have the last word, I'm unsubscribing.

subsonix
Jun 22, 2013, 12:40 PM
exFAT has been around long enough that I'm sure we would've heard of any reliability issues with it.

There are lots of reliability issues, especially when shared with other devices like cameras. It really is intended for memory cards and so on, not entire disks.

cjmillsnun
Jun 22, 2013, 12:43 PM
i know, but i thought they might drop support for it.

Why would they do that when they need to support SDXC?

DarkRyoushii
Jun 23, 2013, 02:52 AM
TO ANSWER THE THREAD QUESTION.

I use exFAT daily on all USB drives and external USBs I own. No issues at all running Mavericks DP1 and since there is little to no reason to depreciate support, I am going to take a calculated guess and say this will not be removed for a long while - think 5 to 10 years minimum.