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MacRumors
Jul 1, 2013, 06:16 PM
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According to two employees (via 9to5Mac (http://9to5mac.com/2013/07/01/best-buy-apparently-set-to-sell-pebble-smart-watch-beginning-this-weekend/)) some Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com) stores in the United States will offer the Pebble smart watch (http://getpebble.com) beginning on Sunday.

The product, which carries an in-stock date of July 7th in the store's inventory system, appears to be limited to Best Buy's brick and mortar locations.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/07/pebble.jpgAdditionally, the inventory system points to an in-stock date of July 7th, which is the upcoming Sunday. Best Buy typically rolls out specials and new products on Sundays, so this date makes sense. However, an in-stock date could also mean that Best Buy stores are scheduled to receive the product on that date, but sales will only begin a few days later.First introduced (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/17/iphone-compatible-pebble-wristwatch-tallies-nearly-4-million-in-kickstarter-presales/) via an enormously successful Kickstarter project, the Pebble smart watch features an e-paper display and integrates with a number of iOS apps thanks to an official SDK (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/12/developers-get-access-to-official-pebble-watchface-sdk/) released earlier this year.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/02/pebblesmartwatch.jpg
The popularity of Pebble and other similar devices has spurred multiple companies to look into producing their own smart watches. Apple is currently reported to be developing a smart watch called the "iWatch (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/01/apple-has-also-filed-for-an-iwatch-trademark-in-japan/)," while Microsoft (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/14/microsoft-looking-to-join-the-smart-watch-race/), Google (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/21/google-reportedly-working-on-its-own-android-smart-watch/), and Samsung (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/19/samsung-confirms-work-on-smart-watch-project/) all have offerings of their own in the works.

The Pebble smart watch, which is available in an array of colors, sells for $150 on the official website (http://getpebble.com). It is likely that Best Buy will offer similar pricing arrangements.

Update: Pebble is now listed (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pebble+-+Smart+Watch+for+Select+Apple%26%23174%3B+and+Android+Devices+-+Red/9713881.p) as "Coming Soon" on Best Buy's public site.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/07/pebble_best_buy.jpg

Update 2: Pebble has officially announced (http://forums.getpebble.com/discussion/6235/it-s-pebble-time-at-best-buy) the Best Buy partnership, with black Pebbles becoming available this Sunday, July 7 and red Pebbles appearing next month.

Article Link: Best Buy May Begin Selling Pebble Smart Watch This Weekend [Updated] (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/01/best-buy-may-begin-selling-pebble-smart-watch-this-weekend/)



sulpfiction
Jul 1, 2013, 06:28 PM
Have fun while it lasts, Pebble.

clancemasterj
Jul 1, 2013, 06:30 PM
Well hello RSS, we meet again.

Jeremy1026
Jul 1, 2013, 06:38 PM
I hope this isn't true. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-March, if they are throwing inventory into a new channel before filling their existing channels I won't be going through with my pre-order and will wait for a competitor.

billyt1963
Jul 1, 2013, 06:40 PM
I think it is great that Pebble has been able to get this into stores, but I still have not gotten my second Kickstarter watch. There are also many
"pre-orders" that have yet to be filled. I wonder how they will be able to keep Best Buy supplied with watches.

dampfnudel
Jul 1, 2013, 07:00 PM
Patiently waiting for the iWatch, aka Pebble's nightmare come true.

jfreak623
Jul 1, 2013, 07:15 PM
No thanks! Pebble is nothing compared to the new Kreyos smart watch on Indiegogo. Voice and motion gesture controlled! Seems like the kind of company apple would buy out.

Kreyos Smartwatch (http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/3729639)

macs4nw
Jul 1, 2013, 07:16 PM
Before too long, the market will be saturated with these devices, and we'll wonder how we ever managed without them.

jfreak623
Jul 1, 2013, 07:17 PM
I hope this isn't true. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-March, if they are throwing inventory into a new channel before filling their existing channels I won't be going through with my pre-order and will wait for a competitor.

check this one out. Above and beyond pebble.

Kreyos Smartwatch (http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/3729639)

Jeremy1026
Jul 1, 2013, 07:21 PM
check this one out. Above and beyond pebble.

Kreyos Smartwatch (http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/3729639)

Estimated delivery of November...eeeeek. However, I guess since I've already waited this long might as well put a fixed date (that is definitely floating) on an alternative rather than to keep wondering if my order will process this month.

jfreak623
Jul 1, 2013, 07:25 PM
Estimated delivery of November...eeeeek. However, I guess since I've already waited this long might as well put a fixed date (that is definitely floating) on an alternative rather than to keep wondering if my order will process this month.

from my understanding, they have over estimated on the shipping times. They are hoping to get them to people much sooner!

GoCubsGo
Jul 1, 2013, 07:33 PM
Awesome ... Report the news as "it may happen."

ovrlrd
Jul 1, 2013, 07:37 PM
All current smart watches are ugly and far too limited. I am really hoping Apple nails it with a good design and some good integration beyond just notifications and silly fitness apps. They won't likely announce it this year, but it is inevitable, and is way more likely to happen than some giant Apple branded TV screen.

aziatiklover
Jul 1, 2013, 07:39 PM
About time but no thanx iWatch here i come.

MNealBarrett
Jul 1, 2013, 08:20 PM
No thanks! Pebble is nothing compared to the new Kreyos smart watch on Indiegogo. Voice and motion gesture controlled! Seems like the kind of company apple would buy out.

Kreyos Smartwatch (http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/3729639)

So, let me get this straight: you are comparing a product that is available NOW, to a product that may not be available in realistic quantities until well into 2014? The Kreyos is so early in it's development that we can't even compare the battery lives.

As long as we are comparing the Pebble to non-existent products, how do we know for sure that the developers of the Pebble don't already have a 'Pebble 2' in the works that could be even better than the Kreyos? Point is, we don't, just as we don't know for certain that the Kreyos will actually see the light of day.

AstronomyiPhone
Jul 1, 2013, 08:21 PM
I hope this isn't true. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-March, if they are throwing inventory into a new channel before filling their existing channels I won't be going through with my pre-order and will wait for a competitor.

There are people that backed the Kickstarter project on the first day more than a year ago and opted for the color white (and even other colors that have been in production for quite a bit longer) that still don't have theirs. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-December and I understand your frustration, but there are people who have been waiting much longer and deserve Pebble's attention much more than Best Buy. They still have a list of about 100,000 pre-orders to fill, so I don't see why they feel like they can start selling to people who have never even heard of it before...

MNealBarrett
Jul 1, 2013, 08:22 PM
About time but no thanx iWatch here i come.

I am not optimistic that Apple will be able to match the Pebble's nearly 1-week battery life.

ceeekay
Jul 1, 2013, 08:43 PM
I hope this isn't true. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-March, if they are throwing inventory into a new channel before filling their existing channels I won't be going through with my pre-order and will wait for a competitor.

Oh - you're still waiting for a preorder watch? I'm still waiting for my watch that I pledged for on kickstarter after day 3 of their campaign, over a year ago. If someone's able to walk into a store and buy one before I even get mine, I'm going to be severely annoyed.

Pebble have utterly mismanaged this entire thing from the day they got their cash in hand.

hexonxonx
Jul 1, 2013, 09:03 PM
The watch is over priced for what it does.

lolkthxbai
Jul 1, 2013, 09:59 PM
There are people that backed the Kickstarter project on the first day more than a year ago and opted for the color white (and even other colors that have been in production for quite a bit longer) that still don't have theirs. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-December and I understand your frustration, but there are people who have been waiting much longer and deserve Pebble's attention much more than Best Buy. They still have a list of about 100,000 pre-orders to fill, so I don't see why they feel like they can start selling to people who have never even heard of it before...

Money changes everything.

Chupa Chupa
Jul 1, 2013, 10:31 PM
The watch is over priced for what it does.

I bought 5 of them on Kickstarter meant as holiday gifts but we know what happened. Then I was going to give them as graduation and birthday gifts, but then the colored ones were delayed. So I decided to change my order to 4 black and one white. I put the black ones on eBay and sold 2 at $200 and 2 for $250.

Still waiting on the white, but got a ship notice yesterday.

So it seems at $150 it's priced right, and does have nice features like BT 4.0, water proof, 1 week battery. But you are, right the watch body itself it pretty junky and unpolished. If it looked nicer and not like a toy I think SDK development would make it very useful. It is nothing with out developers, no smart product can be.

Anonymous Freak
Jul 2, 2013, 01:08 AM
I hope this isn't true. I've been waiting for a pre-order since mid-March, if they are throwing inventory into a new channel before filling their existing channels I won't be going through with my pre-order and will wait for a competitor.

White or gray? My gray is in "processing shipment", having gotten to "please confirm your address" on June 26th.

hafr
Jul 2, 2013, 02:47 AM
The MetaWatch Frame is the only smart watch for me. It's not trying to be too much, it does what it does with no problems what so ever since the FW update before last. The design isn't fantastic but it's definitely way better than its competition (meaning it doesn't stand out by looking like a toy). The battery life is great as well, and the pricing is decent.

MetaWatch understood what the others still haven't: a watch is an accessory. No one would use the same watch when running as when going out to a restaurant, so why are they trying to sell smart watches with the selling point that you can use it at any occasion? It's just stupid. It's like trying to sell a pair of shoes that you can use at any occasion.

To the Pebble... Considering how they've treated their backers, I wouldn't touch that company with a ten feet pole even if they had a good product - which I can't really say I think they have.

bushido
Jul 2, 2013, 03:24 AM
too bad they look like a toy

Mattjeff
Jul 2, 2013, 03:47 AM
No thanks! Pebble is nothing compared to the new Kreyos smart watch on Indiegogo. Voice and motion gesture controlled! Seems like the kind of company apple would buy out.

Kreyos Smartwatch (http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/3729639)

Now that's kinda sweet, not sure how it would really look in person but the capability is intriguing.

bearda
Jul 2, 2013, 05:13 AM
I have a hard time believing they'd put it on retail sale given it's current state. I've used a Pebble daily for a few months and although it's a nice hobbyist item there's a lot needed to get it to prime time.

- On iOS you can reliably receive text/iMessage and control music. That's it. Calendar notifications, email, etc require changing settings every time the connection drops (which will happen randomly) and even then are kind of random. Canceling notifications from the watch (shown on the Kickstarter video) is a pipe dream. I'm told things improve dramatically if you jailbreak, but I can't imagine the average consumer taking that as a requirement.
- Using a Nexus 4 it seems like Android support is better than iOS, but still a mess. This may be a factor of the phone (the Nexus 4's Bluetooth support is surprisingly unreliable) but I get frequent connection drops. Calender, email, gmail, and Google Hangouts notifications work well when the connection to the phone is up, though.
- Bluetooth 4.0 is completely unused. I understand part of that is due to the Android stack situation, but it's been pushed as a feature that's not a feature.
- Replacement power cords are not readily available.

I like my Pebble, and bought it with the expectation that the software would improve. Still, I would think that offering it up in it's current form would result in a LOT of returns. It just doesn't deliver on it's promise at the moment.

rdlink
Jul 2, 2013, 07:56 AM
Someone can buy mine. It's pretty useless, frankly. I expected it to run with many apps by now, including MapMyRide. They took waaay too long to get the SDK out, and by the time developers start coming out with useful apps for it Apple will have a competing product that works better, I'm sure.

Basically, I have a $115 sport watch that runs down in 7 days.

litmag01
Jul 2, 2013, 08:27 AM
I am not optimistic that Apple will be able to match the Pebble's nearly 1-week battery life.

Why do you say that? There seems to be really good battery life on other apple products.

craigab1
Jul 2, 2013, 09:42 AM
I've been waiting for my pre-order through Kickstarter since they launched. I understand they want to sell through the big box stores, but they couldn't do that without our early support. Shame on you Pebble.

hofer
Jul 2, 2013, 01:17 PM
Someone can buy mine. It's pretty useless, frankly. I expected it to run with many apps by now, including MapMyRide. They took waaay too long to get the SDK out, and by the time developers start coming out with useful apps for it Apple will have a competing product that works better, I'm sure.

Basically, I have a $115 sport watch that runs down in 7 days.

A sport watch that doesn't even have a stop watch!

I have had one for a few months, and the only thing about it that I find truly useful is the SMS and call notification.

Mine have had so many problems that I am now getting a replacement. The problems include, among many others, fuzzy text, flickering screen and Siri getting disabled.
The photo that accompanied the article shows a pebble supposedly showing the current temperature or weather forecast - something the current version of Pebble is not able to do.

Good idea - poor execution!

Earendil
Jul 2, 2013, 02:13 PM
To those lamenting that fact that they don't have their pre-order yet and can't believe they'd sign up with bestbuy before filling them, I have just one question:
Do you know that they aren't about to receive a shipment of 10 million watches? Because if you aren't, I don't see a problem here.

If they are finally seeing the production ramp up, then it's only natural to start signing up new avenues for sales. And of course, you'd start those negotiations way earlier, and just stipulate that new partners will only see the excess inventory. Unless of course someone knows otherwise, I'd suggest no one panic just yet.

AstronomyiPhone
Jul 2, 2013, 03:43 PM
Money changes everything.

It's certainly a great idea from a marketing perspective...or at least it would be if the product was actually ready for release to mainstream consumers...

SockRolid
Jul 2, 2013, 04:09 PM
Have fun while it lasts, Pebble.

LOL. A year from now it will be funny to look back at Pebble.
We'll dissect all the marketing, technology, and design mistakes they made.
Then, eventually, Apple will step in and show the world how to do it right.
BOOM.

The smart watch concept isn't a new thing.
A successful smart watch will be a new thing.
Here are some unsuccessful smart watches.

1994 Timex DataLink (co-developed with Microsoft)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Datalink

Starfish total-fail at Macworld 2013 ("Did you hear me? I’m done talking to you.")
http://www.macworld.com/article/2027044/starfish-smartwatch-saga-illustrates-entrepreneurial-stumbling-blocks.html

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Datalink_models_50%2C_Ironman_Triathlon_and_Ironman_USB.JPG/800px-Datalink_models_50%2C_Ironman_Triathlon_and_Ironman_USB.JPG

http://zapt4.staticworld.net/images/article/2013/02/starfish-100024186-large.png

hafr
Jul 3, 2013, 02:58 AM
To those lamenting that fact that they don't have their pre-order yet and can't believe they'd sign up with bestbuy before filling them, I have just one question:
Do you know that they aren't about to receive a shipment of 10 million watches? Because if you aren't, I don't see a problem here.

If they are finally seeing the production ramp up, then it's only natural to start signing up new avenues for sales. And of course, you'd start those negotiations way earlier, and just stipulate that new partners will only see the excess inventory. Unless of course someone knows otherwise, I'd suggest no one panic just yet.

The thing is that as a backer and a pre-order customer, you expect being able to get a product BEFORE it's available for anyone else. If they're getting a shipment of ten million watches and start selling them in BB on Monday - the ones that made the sale via BB possible will be getting their watches AFTER your average Joe can get one.

Say you book a table at a restaurant for four people. You're there on time with your three friends and the head waiter apologises, but you'll have to wait in the bar for a little while. A few minutes later, four people drop in and asks if they have a table for four. The head waiter says "yes, of course, right this way".

Now, even if the head waiter looks at you and says "your table is ready, I'm just going to seat these people, I'll be right with you", wouldn't you expect that as a person that called in advance to book a table and are waiting, the head waiter should take care of you before he takes care of people who just dropped in?

Solomani
Jul 3, 2013, 10:27 AM
Best Buy Sales Manager:

"Unload!!!!! Sell sell sell! Sell everything me boyos! Sell the entire inventory while it's still worth SOMETHING!!"

http://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/everything-must-go.jpg

sulpfiction
Jul 3, 2013, 02:39 PM
LOL. A year from now it will be funny to look back at Pebble.
We'll dissect all the marketing, technology, and design mistakes they made.
Then, eventually, Apple will step in and show the world how to do it right.
BOOM.

The smart watch concept isn't a new thing.
A successful smart watch will be a new thing.
Here are some unsuccessful smart watches.

1994 Timex DataLink (co-developed with Microsoft)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Datalink

Starfish total-fail at Macworld 2013 ("Did you hear me? Iím done talking to you.")
http://www.macworld.com/article/2027044/starfish-smartwatch-saga-illustrates-entrepreneurial-stumbling-blocks.html

Image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Datalink_models_50%2C_Ironman_Triathlon_and_Ironman_USB.JPG/800px-Datalink_models_50%2C_Ironman_Triathlon_and_Ironman_USB.JPG)

Image (http://zapt4.staticworld.net/images/article/2013/02/starfish-100024186-large.png)

U could tell that starfish was doomed for failure just by looking at the horrid, generic clipart used on the banner.

SockRolid
Jul 3, 2013, 05:07 PM
U could tell that starfish was doomed for failure just by looking at the horrid, generic clipart used on the banner.

Sad, really. I suspect they paid too little attention to software development and put too much trust in their overseas hardware partners. It's tough developing an all-new software platform on existing hardware. And tough developing all-new hardware for an existing software platform. But developing both simultaneously is N-squared tough.

If they had only brought posters and flyers to Macworld, just as a teaser, and said "We'll be shipping the product some time in the near-to-medium future, and we're here now to gauge interest" then it might have been OK. That way, if they give up and quit later, they do it in private. No public aggro meltdown.

MNealBarrett
Jul 4, 2013, 09:55 AM
Why do you say that? There seems to be really good battery life on other apple products.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/04/apples-iwatch-said-to-run-full-ios-but-battery-life-an-issue-in-prototypes/

Also, knowing Apple, they will insist on a color LCD display. Have you ever tried to use your cell phone in bright sunlight? I don't know about you, but I have to take my sunglasses off to use it, even with the display set at the brightest setting. This would be damn inconvenient for a watch. A fringe benefit of the Pebble's B&W display is not having to do this.

Anonymous Freak
Jul 4, 2013, 12:41 PM
Sad, really. I suspect they paid too little attention to software development and put too much trust in their overseas hardware partners. It's tough developing an all-new software platform on existing hardware. And tough developing all-new hardware for an existing software platform. But developing both simultaneously is N-squared tough.

If they had only brought posters and flyers to Macworld, just as a teaser, and said "We'll be shipping the product some time in the near-to-medium future, and we're here now to gauge interest" then it might have been OK. That way, if they give up and quit later, they do it in private. No public aggro meltdown.

I see their Facebook page still exists, and they post to it every few months with "coming soon!"

macnerd77
Jul 4, 2013, 05:09 PM
Was in my local Best Buy yesterday, The store rep ordered one for me it should be delivered by monday. The Pebble will have to tide me over until apple releases their smart watch.

walkamongus
Jul 5, 2013, 06:41 AM
I am not optimistic that Apple will be able to match the Pebble's nearly 1-week battery life.
You don't think one of the largest and most successful companies in the world can't top Pebble? That is too funny. I'm sure Cupertino is in a frenzy trying to figure out how Pebble did it, as they don't have much experience in battery technology...c'mon.

Anonymous Freak
Jul 8, 2013, 03:50 PM
You don't think one of the largest and most successful companies in the world can't top Pebble? That is too funny. I'm sure Cupertino is in a frenzy trying to figure out how Pebble did it, as they don't have much experience in battery technology...c'mon.

With the rumors of Apple's watch being a color LCD, it will be extremely difficult. If they managed to wow us with a not-before-seen high quality full-color e-ink screen with never-before-seen low redraw rate, maybe...

blitzer09x87
Jul 8, 2013, 05:09 PM
cool, but i'm waiting for the sony smartwatch 2 or if the iWatch hits the market by this year i'll definitely go for it.

beaniemyman
Jul 8, 2013, 05:39 PM
no thanks, i'm eagerly waiting for the iWatch, it'll definitely kill sony and pebble.