what's wrong with kansas

[Don't panic]

in another sad day for the country, kansas board of education members approved 6-4 the teaching of some creationist views as "science".

These morons will run the nation into the ground. :mad: :mad: :mad:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/national/09kansas.html

[jelloshotsrule]

i am so proud i was born there... or rather, intelligently designed there.

too bad i left within 6 months.

[Stella]

They argue that Evolution is not a proven theory... yet, they back ID - yet, which has very little to back it up.

Its not far from thinking Thunder and Lightening comes from an angry god.


Will they try to teach the Earth is only 6 thousand years old because of the bible, next?

( 6,000 comes from calculations based up on bible text -
Also see:
http://www.raptureready.com/rr-planet.html
)

[njmac]

Hopefully it won't be too late for these kids to learn about real science when they get to college. If you want to teach your children about the Bible's Creation, please do so. But don't pretend it is Science. It is faith.

[jelloshotsrule]

it might have already been posted... but just for all those out there who bash all religions based on stuff like this....

the vatican has already declared intelligent design to be a sham. so that's saying something!

[feakbeak]

the vatican has already declared intelligent design to be a sham. so that's saying something!Yes, I heard about this a while back and I'm not sure whether to be relieved or frightened. For many centuries the Catholic church dragged its heals about allowing science to co-exist peacefully with relgion - now they seem much more open to letting them be different entities that do not need to be resolved.

It is also scary because it is just another indication of how extreme the American neo-conservatives are getting. Whatever happened to the old conservatives that just wanted low taxes for all, small government, less public programs and a government that stayed out of its citizens' affairs? I still may not have agreed with their policies very often but at least they had a sane and solid argument for their beliefs. This stuff is just bordering on madness, IMO.

[zimv20]

in other news (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/09/AR2005110900114.html)

Pennsylvania Voters Oust School Board

DOVER, Pa. -- Voters came down hard Tuesday on school board members who backed a statement on intelligent design being read in biology class, ousting eight Republicans and replacing them with Democrats who want the concept stripped from the science curriculum.

The election unfolded amid a landmark federal trial involving the Dover public schools and the question of whether intelligent design promotes the Bible's view of creation. Eight Dover families sued, saying it violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

Dover's school board adopted a policy in October 2004 that requires ninth-graders to hear a prepared statement about intelligent design before learning about evolution in biology class.

Eight of the nine school board members were up for election Tuesday. They were challenged by a slate of Democrats who argued that science class was not the appropriate forum for teaching intelligent design.

"My kids believe in God. I believe in God. But I don't think it belongs in the science curriculum the way the school district is presenting it," said Jill Reiter, 41, a bank teller who joined a group of high school students waving signs supporting the challengers Tuesday.

A spokesman for the winning slate of candidates has said they wouldn't act hastily and would consider the outcome of the court case. The judge expects to rule by January; the new school board members will be sworn in Dec. 5.

School board member David Napierskie, who lost Tuesday, said the vote wasn't just about ideology.

"Some people felt intelligent design shouldn't be taught and others were concerned about having tax money spent on the lawsuit," he said.

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[yg17]

I'm ashamed to live a couple hundred miles from the Kansas border. I'd say drop a nuke on Kansas to take care of the problem, but any survivors would migrate over here.

[mactastic]

Yeah, but in Dover 8 out of 8 creationists were swept from office and replaced by Democrats. Call it a wash.

[Ugg]

Yeah, but in Dover 8 out of 8 creationists were swept from office and replaced by Democrats. Call it a wash.

In the end though, that only leads to further polarization of the population. Ive been in the Balkans for a couple of weeks now and the results of polarization due to religion and ethnicity arent very pretty. Unfortunately, the secular approach of France isnt proving very viable either.

Whats the answer...

[tristan]

I can't wait to see the Kansas textbooks. "If you travel to Washington, DC, you will discover the natural history museum. In this museum, you'll find a detailed fossil record that shows how simple single-celled life forms from millions of years ago evolved into plants and animals. You will also find exhibits devoted to our earliest primate ancestors. Please avoid this museum if possible. If you are forced inside, cover your eyes and ears and chant 'Satan, I rebuke thee and thine evil lies' until you are able to leave."

[Stella]

I'm ashamed to live a couple hundred miles from the Kansas border. I'd say drop a nuke on Kansas to take care of the problem, but any survivors would migrate over here.

LOL.

You too will suffer due to the nuclear fallout!!

Move MUCH further away than several hundred miles!

[Chacala_Nayarit]

Creationism is psuedo science. Evolution is a theory.

For a hypothesis to become a theory, it needs evidence. Evolution has plenty of crediable evidence. Yet still in science, nothing is truth. For example water is hydrogen and oxygen, in current understanding. Yet this is not truth, as new discoveries may trump older theories.

Creationism has no evidence whatsoever.

The sad thing is the USA is far behind in science and mathematics, compared to other countries.

Inteligunt desine anyone? :D

[IJ Reilly]

Kansas, isn't that the big rectangular black hole in the middle of the United States where all knowledge gets sucked in and is never seen again?

[mactastic]

Uh oh.... Dover is in trouble (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051110/ts_nm/religion_robertson_dc) now.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Conservative Christian televangelist Pat Robertson told citizens of a Pennsylvania town that they had rejected God by voting their school board out of office for supporting "intelligent design" and warned them on Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.

...

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Robertson said on his daily television show broadcast from Virginia, "The 700 Club."

"And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because he might not be there," he said.

...

In voting on Tuesday, all eight Dover, Pennsylvania, school board members up for re-election lost their seats after trying to introduce "intelligent design" to high school science students as an alternative to the theory of evolution.
Now THERE'S a Christian who is all about the love of Jesus... :rolleyes:

[Stella]

Uh oh.... Dover is in trouble (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051110/ts_nm/religion_robertson_dc) now.

Now THERE'S a Christian who is all about the love of Jesus... :rolleyes:

ROTFL.

He's an absolute hoot!

[IJ Reilly]

ROTFL.

He's an absolute hoot!

I think the word you were looking for is "coot."