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Brandon263
Jul 5, 2013, 11:35 PM
I've been using my new base 2013 MacBook Air in Windows 8 over the past few days and I'm really enjoying it. Some observations:

1. Overall performance seems faster (!) than in Mountain lion: I can have more than 50 Chrome tabs open, Spotify streaming music and Acrobat open and have no lag or problems at all. Perhaps this is because of the implementation of Chrome in Windows, but I really like it. I have a suspicion that memory management in Windows 8 might be better than in Mountain Lion, because I have dozens of tabs open in Chrome, Spotify and Acrobat running, as well as many Metro apps open and still have task manager only showing 2.0GB of RAM used.

2. Windows 8 boots up very fast -- I'm getting to the desktop in less than 10 seconds. That's amazing.

3. I just love the graphics in Windows 8: I like how it shows you a graph with the copy rate it shows when copying stuff, I love the new task manager, and I just love the overall snappiness of it.

4. WiFi is faaaaast. I can stream HD movies from my DRLINK AC1200 router while downloading apps in Chrome and having many tabs open in it without any hiccups at all.

5. I'm getting 11 hours of battery life. In Windows. (Jaw drops.)

5. I like the Metro News app. I also generally just like reading articles, browsing the web, watching Netflix and using Twitter in the Metro mode of Windows 8. :)

Have others using Windows 8 on the new Airs had a similar experience?



coolaaron88
Jul 5, 2013, 11:47 PM
That is very awesome to hear. I'm impressed with your results. I'm getting my MacBook Air next week so this is good to see.

What is your MacBook Air configuration?

Brandon263
Jul 6, 2013, 12:08 AM
That is very awesome to hear. I'm impressed with your results. I'm getting my MacBook Air next week so this is good to see.

What is your MacBook Air configuration?

I have the base MacBook Air (4GB RAM, 128 GB SSD). I gave 40 GB to Windows and the rest to Mac OS X.

Mrbobb
Jul 6, 2013, 12:22 AM
Aren't u dying to have a touch screen though?

coolaaron88
Jul 6, 2013, 12:35 AM
I have the base MacBook Air (4GB RAM, 128 GB SSD). I gave 40 GB to Windows and the rest to Mac OS X.

Not bad, do you have the i5 or the i7?

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Aren't u dying to have a touch screen though?

Coming from someone who is coming from a non touchscreen laptop currently running Windows 8, I'm not going to missing one when I get my MacBook Air. You can use 8 without it.

SoundChaos
Jul 6, 2013, 12:42 AM
I seem to have the exact opposite reaction to Windows 8 on my Macbook Air 2013 1.7/128/8gb ... The boot camp drivers are just terrible for everything, the brightness doesn't work, at max its a lot dimmer than it should be, and the different levels of brightness do not work. There is dim, very dim, or off, nothing in between those 3 settings. Also the touch pad driver is faulty and inconstant. Sometimes the multitouch features work, sometimes they freeze up (such as holding click on a window bar with your thumb and dragging with a finger) The scrolling feature is not customizable and very jumpy, cant even use it for web browsing.

The performance is spotty at best as well, it will randomly freeze during graphically intense programs and benchmarks, and when it goes black on a display driver crash, it stays black for almost 5 minutes before its useable again.. It gets quite hot in windows when playing games or benchmarks too. The area above the f1-f3 keys can almost burn my fingers.

Not impressed, I hope some major bootcamp driver revisions are added in, and it seems the fan needs to be cranked up as well.
Oh, forgot to mention, it will not charge right when in windows either, it will off and on say "plugged in but not charging" and take many hours to get to full charge.
And my biggest issue of all, I allocated 38gb to windows, and have nothing installed but firefox, and i only have 6gb free space, even after removing all virtual memory and removing all windows backup storage...

TC25
Jul 6, 2013, 04:13 AM
Aren't u dying to have a touch screen though?

No, that's what I have an iPad for. Plus the Windows-only programs I have don't use, and probably never will, a touch screen.

tylerwatt12
Jul 6, 2013, 04:20 AM
do trackpad gestures work at all for ex, to reveal the charms bar?

APlotdevice
Jul 6, 2013, 04:22 AM
5. I'm getting 11 hours of battery life. In Windows. (Jaw drops.)

To be clear, is this an 11" (battery rated to 9 hours) or 13" (~ 12 hours) MacBook Air?

mattferg
Jul 6, 2013, 04:46 AM
I seem to have the exact opposite reaction to Windows 8 on my Macbook Air 2013 1.7/128/8gb ... The boot camp drivers are just terrible for everything, the brightness doesn't work, at max its a lot dimmer than it should be, and the different levels of brightness do not work. There is dim, very dim, or off, nothing in between those 3 settings. Also the touch pad driver is faulty and inconstant. Sometimes the multitouch features work, sometimes they freeze up (such as holding click on a window bar with your thumb and dragging with a finger) The scrolling feature is not customizable and very jumpy, cant even use it for web browsing.

The performance is spotty at best as well, it will randomly freeze during graphically intense programs and benchmarks, and when it goes black on a display driver crash, it stays black for almost 5 minutes before its useable again.. It gets quite hot in windows when playing games or benchmarks too. The area above the f1-f3 keys can almost burn my fingers.

Not impressed, I hope some major bootcamp driver revisions are added in, and it seems the fan needs to be cranked up as well.
Oh, forgot to mention, it will not charge right when in windows either, it will off and on say "plugged in but not charging" and take many hours to get to full charge.
And my biggest issue of all, I allocated 38gb to windows, and have nothing installed but firefox, and i only have 6gb free space, even after removing all virtual memory and removing all windows backup storage...

There's a fix for the brightness issue - Windows has enabled something that conflicts with the Mac drivers, here's how to turn it off: http://www.howtogeek.com/107173/disable-windows-8s-adaptive-brightness-to-fix-dark-screen-problems/

Brandon263
Jul 6, 2013, 06:36 AM
Not bad, do you have the i5 or the i7?[COLOR="#808080"]

I have the i5. :)

I seem to have the exact opposite reaction to Windows 8 on my Macbook Air 2013 1.7/128/8gb ... The boot camp drivers are just terrible for everything, the brightness doesn't work, at max its a lot dimmer than it should be, and the different levels of brightness do not work. There is dim, very dim, or off, nothing in between those 3 settings. Also the touch pad driver is faulty and inconstant. Sometimes the multitouch features work, sometimes they freeze up (such as holding click on a window bar with your thumb and dragging with a finger) The scrolling feature is not customizable and very jumpy, cant even use it for web browsing.

The performance is spotty at best as well, it will randomly freeze during graphically intense programs and benchmarks, and when it goes black on a display driver crash, it stays black for almost 5 minutes before its useable again.. It gets quite hot in windows when playing games or benchmarks too. The area above the f1-f3 keys can almost burn my fingers.

Not impressed, I hope some major bootcamp driver revisions are added in, and it seems the fan needs to be cranked up as well.
Oh, forgot to mention, it will not charge right when in windows either, it will off and on say "plugged in but not charging" and take many hours to get to full charge.
And my biggest issue of all, I allocated 38gb to windows, and have nothing installed but firefox, and i only have 6gb free space, even after removing all virtual memory and removing all windows backup storage...

That is very strange. I'm having no problems at all when using my Air's internal keyboard and mouse or when using the Air with my Thunderbolt Display and wireless keyboard and trackpad. Did you download the latest drivers from Apple? Try removing the Windows partition and reinstalling Windows 8 using the following method:

1. Buy Windows 8 and download the ISO direct from Microsoft after obtaining your product key (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/upgrade-product-key-only). Save the ISO to your Mac desktop.

2. Connect a flash drive to your USB port.

3. Start Bootcamp Assistant on your Mac and when it asks you what you want to do, check the first two options (create windows install disk and download support media). Choose the option to save the files to the flash drive you just connected.

After the process is complete, quit Bootcamp Assistant.

4. Start Bootcamp Assistant again and ONLY check download support media this time. Choose to save the files to the same flash drive you selected in step 3.

After the process is complete, quit Bootcamp Assistant.

4) Start Bootcamp Assistant again and select install Windows. Bootcamp will automatically restart your computer into Windows Setup. (Do not hold option when the computer restarts, select EFI boot, reboot the computer youself, etc.) From there on, continue like normal.

To be clear, is this an 11" (battery rated to 9 hours) or 13" (~ 12 hours) MacBook Air?

I have the 13 inch Air. I had the 15 inch rMBP before, and even though it was rated for 7 hours, in Windows it would only last 3 to 4 hours. I'm very excited with the new Air, especially because it's lighter than the rMBP, doesn't get as hot as the rMBP and text is much easier to read in Windows 8.

SoundChaos
Jul 6, 2013, 12:59 PM
There's a fix for the brightness issue - Windows has enabled something that conflicts with the Mac drivers, here's how to turn it off: http://www.howtogeek.com/107173/disable-windows-8s-adaptive-brightness-to-fix-dark-screen-problems/

Thanks, that fixed my dimness issue! But overall, my windows 8 performance is still sub-par, even after reinstalling the OS again. It now gets hot just doing web browsing, and at a balanced power settings and medium brightness, I get about 5-6 hours of battery. It doesn't seem to understand how to take advantage of the new Haswell power states..

Bootup from scratch on windows for me is about 11 seconds, but to be in windows and "Shutdown" is 75 seconds, and "Restart" takes about 85 seconds..

Brandon263
Jul 6, 2013, 06:48 PM
Very odd. The *least* amount of battery life I got was about 9 hours 30 seconds when I was watching stuff on Netflix. Of course if you are gaming, you'll get much less than that. It definitely isn't getting warm under any circumstances for me. Perhaps this has something to do with the i7 and the 8GB RAM?

I'd very interested to hear what kind of performance others are seeing.

Thanks, that fixed my dimness issue! But overall, my windows 8 performance is still sub-par, even after reinstalling the OS again. It now gets hot just doing web browsing, and at a balanced power settings and medium brightness, I get about 5-6 hours of battery. It doesn't seem to understand how to take advantage of the new Haswell power states..

Bootup from scratch on windows for me is about 11 seconds, but to be in windows and "Shutdown" is 75 seconds, and "Restart" takes about 85 seconds..

daviddth
Jul 6, 2013, 09:18 PM
Bootup from scratch on windows for me is about 11 seconds, but to be in windows and "Shutdown" is 75 seconds, and "Restart" takes about 85 seconds..

Only Running win 7 here, but while I can boot in about 10sec, the shutdown is about the same or less, and a reboot 15-20 seconds max. Odd that yours takes so long, and I have seen reports that windows 8 is usually faster to boot and shut down than win 7 so you should be seeing as good or better times than I get

perry8912
Jul 10, 2013, 04:49 PM
How about the battery life on win7?
If I run parallels instead of bootcamp, will the battery life be longer or shorter?Only Running win 7 here, but while I can boot in about 10sec, the shutdown is about the same or less, and a reboot 15-20 seconds max. Odd that yours takes so long, and I have seen reports that windows 8 is usually faster to boot and shut down than win 7 so you should be seeing as good or better times than I get

visodus
Jul 10, 2013, 05:07 PM
Did you do an EFI install?

Acorn
Jul 10, 2013, 05:21 PM
5. I'm getting 11 hours of battery life. In Windows. (Jaw drops.)


lol yea maybe 11 hours estimated. i seriously doubt windows getting 11 hours with constant use. maybe 7-8 tops.

johnjey
Jul 10, 2013, 07:08 PM
Very odd. The *least* amount of battery life I got was about 9 hours 30 seconds when I was watching stuff on Netflix. Of course if you are gaming, you'll get much less than that. It definitely isn't getting warm under any circumstances for me. Perhaps this has something to do with the i7 and the 8GB RAM?

I'd very interested to hear what kind of performance others are seeing.

Ummm....what ????????? Do you have a 2013 11' i5 or i7? looks like you may have a 13'

Yggbert
Jul 10, 2013, 07:29 PM
I don't get threads like this, why wouldn't Windows run fine? Macs aren't PPC so it wouldn't make sense for there to be rampant compatibility issues or sluggish performance, it's the same architecture, Macs aren't unique snowflakes.

Windows has ran good ever since it was possible as a main OS, so first Core 2 Duos?

thejadedmonkey
Jul 10, 2013, 07:36 PM
Thanks, that fixed my dimness issue! But overall, my windows 8 performance is still sub-par, even after reinstalling the OS again. It now gets hot just doing web browsing, and at a balanced power settings and medium brightness, I get about 5-6 hours of battery. It doesn't seem to understand how to take advantage of the new Haswell power states..

Bootup from scratch on windows for me is about 11 seconds, but to be in windows and "Shutdown" is 75 seconds, and "Restart" takes about 85 seconds..

Make sure you have the most up-to-date bootcamp drivers. Something is definitely not right on your install, as my Windows 7 PC boots in about that much time, and that's a 4 year old computer (with an sata SSD).

unagimiyagi
Jul 10, 2013, 10:53 PM
I shall say it again...the macbook pro/air are where Apple has its largest lead over the competition, out of all the categories that Apple plays in.

Android is different but certainly 'good enough'. I'm willing to concede that.
The android tablets are also catching up.

The desktop market is past its peak.

The laptop market though, is still a large market, but shrinking b/c of the ipad for reasons that aren't clear to me. I must be too old to imagine life without a keyboard and 'regular' programs and a desktop os.
Apple's biggest problem is that the laptop market is about to go the way of the desktop market. A big lead in a market that won't move many units won't help their profits much.

Make no mistake about it, though, the pro/air are in a different class. Anyone who thinks differently, I'd tell reply back:
battery life
touchpad responsiveness
screen quality
thinness
fan noise
attractiveness
camera quality
microphone quality/sq inch
speaker quality/sq inch
price/performance ratio
boot up times
startup shutdown times
stability
general ergonomics

If you learn how to use your mac properly, there's no debate and no argument to stand on. I know I'm preaching to the choir here.
Everyone in the tech world, and everyone with any discriminating taste, and everyone in the coveted 18-40 demographic, is using a mac these days. From high school to colleges to grad students, the future earners of america have all grown up and dined on a mac during their formative years.

jadam
Jul 11, 2013, 01:04 AM
I just installed Windows 8 on my Macbook Air. I've been used to running it on my Surface RT tablet and some other slower desktops that I have around.

Holy smokes, running on the Macbook Air it is incredibly fast, totally unexpected!

happyhippo1337
Jul 11, 2013, 11:03 AM
Can confirm that overall performance is totally superb on a new 13 inch i5/4GB/256 Air.

But man, the trackpad experience on Windows 8 is really underwhelming. Doesn't even come close to OS X in this regard.

Is there any way to fix this?

ZBoater
Jul 11, 2013, 12:58 PM
Can confirm that overall performance is totally superb on a new 13 inch i5/4GB/256 Air.

But man, the trackpad experience on Windows 8 is really underwhelming. Doesn't even come close to OS X in this regard.

Is there any way to fix this?

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1497761

Livewings
Jul 11, 2013, 01:51 PM
Can confirm that overall performance is totally superb on a new 13 inch i5/4GB/256 Air.

But man, the trackpad experience on Windows 8 is really underwhelming. Doesn't even come close to OS X in this regard.

Is there any way to fix this?

There's no one to blame but Apple.

My Asus N56 believe it or not has a better experience running on Windows 8.
Pinch to zoom is exactly what you find on OS X. Smoothness and awesomeness. All the Windows 8 gestures work perfectly. The Apple trackpad in Windows on the otherhand, pinch zooming is NON-EXISTENT.

APlotdevice
Jul 11, 2013, 03:20 PM
There's no one to blame but Apple.

My Asus N56 believe it or not has a better experience running on Windows 8.
Pinch to zoom is exactly what you find on OS X. Smoothness and awesomeness. All the Windows 8 gestures work perfectly. The Apple trackpad in Windows on the otherhand, pinch zooming is NON-EXISTENT.

From what I've heard, "Trackpad++" can greatly improve Macbook trackpad performance in Windows.

phoenixsan
Jul 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
even a humble piece of hardware as the HP Mini can do a decent job running W8. I never tought about a day when I praise a OS coming from Microsoft. But I was wrong.....(until now and first impression....:o.....:eek:).....



:):apple:

ZBoater
Jul 11, 2013, 05:35 PM
eeven a humble piece of hardware as the HP Mini can do a decent job running W8. I never tought about a day when I praise a OS coming from Microsoft. But I was wrong.....(until now and first impression....:o.....:eek:)....

Funny, I have heard quite the opposite. That Windows 8 was worse that Vista. Those are fighting words! :D

I tried the preview and did not like the metro interface. The desktop interface got frustrating every time I tried hitting the (non existent) Start button. If 8.1 brings back the Start button and I can permanently disable Metro, I may try it, but so far Windows 7 is behaving superbly on my MBA, so not sure I have a compelling reason to upgrade.

APlotdevice
Jul 11, 2013, 05:43 PM
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Funny, I have heard quite the opposite. That Windows 8 was worse that Vista. Those are fighting words! :D

I tried the preview and did not like the metro interface. The desktop interface got frustrating every time I tried hitting the (non existent) Start button. If 8.1 brings back the Start button and I can permanently disable Metro, I may try it, but so far Windows 7 is behaving superbly on my MBA, so not sure I have a compelling reason to upgrade.

8.1 is bringing back the start button, but all it will do is bring up the metro/modern interface. The start menu is still gone.

ZBoater
Jul 11, 2013, 05:57 PM
8.1 is bringing back the start button, but all it will do is bring up the metro/modern interface. The start menu is still gone.

Then count me out until Windows 9. I skipped ME, Vista, and now 8. Good riddens.

ZBoater
Jul 11, 2013, 07:30 PM
Then count me out until Windows 9. I skipped ME, Vista, and now 8. Good riddens.

I take that back. I just installed 8.1 preview and am reasonably impressed. The start button can be configured to bring up an app list. If I can find a shutdown app, I'm in business. It looks pretty slick booting straight into desktop mode. I like it.

happyhippo1337
Jul 12, 2013, 04:05 AM
Thanks everyone for the Trackpad++ hints. It's really more fun to use the trackpad now.

To be completey honest: after using 8.0 on this new Macbook Air, I am really disappointed about Mountain Lion.

I am running Win 8 Pro 64 Bit on a new 13 inch i5/4GB/256 machine and was worried about the RAM in Windows.

Never have I been so wrong! Currently open:

Chrome with 17 Tabs - 1080p youtube video on two of them running
Chrome with 5 Tabs - nothing fancy
Chrome with 12 Tabs - Twitch.tv Stream
Three Libre Office documents and a 30 MB PDF manual
Evernote and Wunderlist
VLC playing 1080p mkv
Spotify streaming in high quality.
Actively using Teamspeak 3
GIMP editing two 8 MB files
Chrome with Flickr bib. open - 200 photos displaying

CPU is at 60% and 300 MB of Ram still available. No swapping. I guess that's everything you can ask for on a machine like that, showing that it's still very much useable with 4GB doing plenty of stuff at the same time. However, this would not be possible in Mountain Lion I'm afraid.

Even at 100% the CPU won't turboboost to 2,6 GHz but stay at a maximum of 2,3. Did anyone notice that behaviour?

Brandon263
Jul 12, 2013, 07:01 AM
Thanks everyone for the Trackpad++ hints. It's really more fun to use the trackpad now.

To be completey honest: after using 8.0 on this new Macbook Air, I am really disappointed about Mountain Lion.

I am running Win 8 Pro 64 Bit on a new 13 inch i5/4GB/256 machine and was worried about the RAM in Windows.

Never have I been so wrong! Currently open:

Chrome with 17 Tabs - 1080p youtube video on two of them running
Chrome with 5 Tabs - nothing fancy
Chrome with 12 Tabs - Twitch.tv Stream
Three Libre Office documents and a 30 MB PDF manual
Evernote and Wunderlist
VLC playing 1080p mkv
Spotify streaming in high quality.
Actively using Teamspeak 3
GIMP editing two 8 MB files
Chrome with Flickr bib. open - 200 photos displaying

CPU is at 60% and 300 MB of Ram still available. No swapping. I guess that's everything you can ask for on a machine like that, showing that it's still very much useable with 4GB doing plenty of stuff at the same time. However, this would not be possible in Mountain Lion I'm afraid.

Even at 100% the CPU won't turboboost to 2,6 GHz but stay at a maximum of 2,3. Did anyone notice that behaviour?

Thatís exactly what I noticed when using Windows 8. Tons of internet tabs open, Spotify streaming music, Acrobat open and streaming HD video and not a stutter. Try that in Mountain Lion and the video stutters and there are significant page outs. Hopefully memory management will get better with Mavericks.

Sym0
Jul 12, 2013, 07:39 AM
I have the i5. :)

I have the 13 inch Air. I had the 15 inch rMBP before, and even though it was rated for 7 hours, in Windows it would only last 3 to 4 hours. I'm very excited with the new Air, especially because it's lighter than the rMBP, doesn't get as hot as the rMBP and text is much easier to read in Windows 8.

That's because the rMBP used the dGPU full time in windows 7, not sure about windows 8 though...

parapup
Aug 4, 2013, 09:56 PM
That’s exactly what I noticed when using Windows 8. Tons of internet tabs open, Spotify streaming music, Acrobat open and streaming HD video and not a stutter. Try that in Mountain Lion and the video stutters and there are significant page outs. Hopefully memory management will get better with Mavericks.

Yes - came here to say exactly that. Bought a new 13.3" Air w/4GB RAM on tax holiday with student discount! OS X was not very pleasant to use under anything more than light loads. Open Chrome, Word, Mail.app and pages in Chrome were pausing while scrolling and the OS had swapped out 100+Megs. App switching was ok but nowhere near as snappier as I discovered with Win8.

Had an unused $39 Win8 Pro key lying around - and I must say I was very much convinced I would be trading one problem for 2 other - and kudos to BootCamp 5 and Windows 8 memory management I am pretty happy with the setup! Never thought this day would arise..

Here are a few things I noticed -


Windows EFI boots with no quirks!
EFI install has everything working - sound, brightness controls, GPU driver even updates fine to latest Intel provided version without issues!
Windows has enabled AHCI - not sure if related but boot and shutdown blazingly fast!
Memory management is great - Office 2013, bunch of Chrome tabs, all the metro social apps and still half of it is free!
Chrome tab casting using ChromeCast - gave distorted picture on OS X, but works great on Win 8.
Something with the Win8 GPU drivers or Win8 itself - on screen it feels way snappier than anything I've used thus far.
It is dead silent except under heavy load when the fans make bare minimum noise - and it is always cool - no heat issues.


Hopefully, now that I am impressed more than needed, Microsoft doesn't send out an update to ruin things :)

SteveJobs2.0
Aug 5, 2013, 01:32 AM
I dint know what you people are talking about. Mountain lion works great with 4gb ram. It is a smooth under most tasks as my 8gb air.

axi0m
Aug 5, 2013, 01:51 AM
I seem to have the exact opposite reaction to Windows 8 on my Macbook Air 2013 1.7/128/8gb ... The boot camp drivers are just terrible for everything, the brightness doesn't work, at max its a lot dimmer than it should be, and the different levels of brightness do not work. There is dim, very dim, or off, nothing in between those 3 settings. Also the touch pad driver is faulty and inconstant. Sometimes the multitouch features work, sometimes they freeze up (such as holding click on a window bar with your thumb and dragging with a finger) The scrolling feature is not customizable and very jumpy, cant even use it for web browsing.

The performance is spotty at best as well, it will randomly freeze during graphically intense programs and benchmarks, and when it goes black on a display driver crash, it stays black for almost 5 minutes before its useable again.. It gets quite hot in windows when playing games or benchmarks too. The area above the f1-f3 keys can almost burn my fingers.

Not impressed, I hope some major bootcamp driver revisions are added in, and it seems the fan needs to be cranked up as well.
Oh, forgot to mention, it will not charge right when in windows either, it will off and on say "plugged in but not charging" and take many hours to get to full charge.
And my biggest issue of all, I allocated 38gb to windows, and have nothing installed but firefox, and i only have 6gb free space, even after removing all virtual memory and removing all windows backup storage...

Me too ! It bloody astounds me that with identical hardware configurations and latest bootcamp drivers we have these varying reports.

I find the bootcamp drivers atrocious, the track pad clicks often double down and dragging is downright broken, to start you can't drag/select with three fingers like in iOS it's either double tap or click and drag, but even with click and drag it is inaccurate and drops lock. Overall a subpar trackpad experience, worse than on a cheapo wintel notebook.

My wi-fi doesn't work in Windows, all drivers installed fine and it connects to network but states that connection is limited and its broken, so can't get the net.

The brightness has a mind of its own and sometimes fluctuates frequently for no reason.

Overall I am in hell when in Windows on the new MacBook 2013.


One thing that is positive though is that text appears to be much sharper, less fuzzy and way better to read than in OSX. Colors appear with better contrast too.

m98custom1212
Aug 5, 2013, 09:35 AM
I brought my macbook air to put windows on it. Windows 8 works very well on macbook so well that deleted the osx partition.

+ WiFi is fast and doesn't drop (reason I rid of my sony pro 13 connects to my works WiFi, my home, my parents, schools and buddies WiFi flawless)

+Battery Life 12 hours

+Low Resources (Ram)

+ Brightness works

+ Trackpad works as should in native windows including right click (Trackpad +++ sucks )

+ Windows updates fine plus all newest intel drivers

+ No freezes no crashes no blue screens

+All my programs run flawless including Cloud Station (basically my own dropbox/ Google drive) Office 2013 has been flawless.. Team viewer runs great. All my CAD/CAM programs run fast and smooth.

axi0m
Aug 5, 2013, 10:51 PM
I brought my macbook air to put windows on it. Windows 8 works very well on macbook so well that deleted the osx partition.

+ WiFi is fast and doesn't drop (reason I rid of my sony pro 13 connects to my works WiFi, my home, my parents, schools and buddies WiFi flawless)

+Battery Life 12 hours

+Low Resources (Ram)

+ Brightness works

+ Trackpad works as should in native windows including right click (Trackpad +++ sucks )

+ Windows updates fine plus all newest intel drivers

+ No freezes no crashes no blue screens

+All my programs run flawless including Cloud Station (basically my own dropbox/ Google drive) Office 2013 has been flawless.. Team viewer runs great. All my CAD/CAM programs run fast and smooth.

Did you install Windows 8 off a USB stick or used disc and a superdrive ?

throAU
Aug 5, 2013, 11:57 PM
e

Funny, I have heard quite the opposite. That Windows 8 was worse that Vista. Those are fighting words! :D

Performance wise, Windows 8 is great.

The problems with 8 are NOT performance related.

They're usability issues.

zeronoise
Aug 6, 2013, 12:46 AM
If I can find a shutdown app.

right click the start button

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Performance wise, Windows 8 is great.

The problems with 8 are NOT performance related.

They're usability issues.

The so called usability issues that I've heard from people are really non issues...what are yours?

m98custom1212
Aug 6, 2013, 08:50 AM
Did you install Windows 8 off a USB stick or used disc and a superdrive ?

USB.. I haven't used an optical drive in three years.

axi0m
Aug 6, 2013, 07:22 PM
USB.. I haven't used an optical drive in three years.

So the USB stick with OS should go in the right USB port and the one with the bootcamp drivers in the left ? Let the mac restart and it should boot with EFI into Windows setup. That's what I did but it kept telling me I can't install Windows on either GPT partition or non NTFS formatted one, even though bootcamp prepared the partition, basically random bugs.

axi0m
Aug 6, 2013, 11:12 PM
I have the i5. :)



That is very strange. I'm having no problems at all when using my Air's internal keyboard and mouse or when using the Air with my Thunderbolt Display and wireless keyboard and trackpad. Did you download the latest drivers from Apple? Try removing the Windows partition and reinstalling Windows 8 using the following method:

1. Buy Windows 8 and download the ISO direct from Microsoft after obtaining your product key (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/upgrade-product-key-only). Save the ISO to your Mac desktop.

2. Connect a flash drive to your USB port.

3. Start Bootcamp Assistant on your Mac and when it asks you what you want to do, check the first two options (create windows install disk and download support media). Choose the option to save the files to the flash drive you just connected.

After the process is complete, quit Bootcamp Assistant.

4. Start Bootcamp Assistant again and ONLY check download support media this time. Choose to save the files to the same flash drive you selected in step 3.

After the process is complete, quit Bootcamp Assistant.

4) Start Bootcamp Assistant again and select install Windows. Bootcamp will automatically restart your computer into Windows Setup. (Do not hold option when the computer restarts, select EFI boot, reboot the computer youself, etc.) From there on, continue like normal.



I have the 13 inch Air. I had the 15 inch rMBP before, and even though it was rated for 7 hours, in Windows it would only last 3 to 4 hours. I'm very excited with the new Air, especially because it's lighter than the rMBP, doesn't get as hot as the rMBP and text is much easier to read in Windows 8.

Step 4. Why would you download the support media again if you had done so in step 3 ? And wouldn't choosing to save the files to the same flash drive prompt bootcamp assistant to format it, deleting the Windows setup files ?

Wait.. and you have two (4) points. Perhaps you made some mistakes ?

m98custom1212
Aug 7, 2013, 08:56 AM
So the USB stick with OS should go in the right USB port and the one with the bootcamp drivers in the left ? Let the mac restart and it should boot with EFI into Windows setup. That's what I did but it kept telling me I can't install Windows on either GPT partition or non NTFS formatted one, even though bootcamp prepared the partition, basically random bugs.

No I used one usb stick. I have dedicated usb sticks (windows 7, windows 8, mnt lion etc, windows server etc)

I just put the raw iso image on the stick. Checked the three boxes on the boot camp let boot camp do its magic. Took quite awhile but I have feeling it was due to my works slow internet connection.. (Max download speed 250kb)

Went to into the try clicked bootcamp assistant and made sure the second click was turned on and double click was off and I verified everything worked I deleted the osx partition

Done. Took maybe 1.5 hour and most of that was waiting

rmanne
Aug 17, 2013, 05:59 PM
Me too ! It bloody astounds me that with identical hardware configurations and latest bootcamp drivers we have these varying reports.

I find the bootcamp drivers atrocious, the track pad clicks often double down and dragging is downright broken, to start you can't drag/select with three fingers like in iOS it's either double tap or click and drag, but even with click and drag it is inaccurate and drops lock. Overall a subpar trackpad experience, worse than on a cheapo wintel notebook.

My wi-fi doesn't work in Windows, all drivers installed fine and it connects to network but states that connection is limited and its broken, so can't get the net.

The brightness has a mind of its own and sometimes fluctuates frequently for no reason.

Overall I am in hell when in Windows on the new MacBook 2013.


One thing that is positive though is that text appears to be much sharper, less fuzzy and way better to read than in OSX. Colors appear with better contrast too.

Here's my MacBook Air configuration: 8gb RAM, 4650U, 256GB ssd. 200gb for win8pro. 50 for os x.
I'm running win8pro flawlessly. During intensive gaming, it performs really really really well in the first 2 seconds, and then overheats and lowers the performance (but this is only to be expected, since gpu has a higher clock when it's not too hot and when it does get too hot, intel cores
automaticaly reduce the maximum clocks of the cpu/gpu). The Mac's frame rate is also much more stable than my $1.7k desktop (but ofc, with liquid cooling, the desktop wins on maximum graphics it can run)

wifi also works flawlessly. Connected to my home network (wireless-n) and got 2~3MB/s (what I get with my old laptop). Also connects to my SGH-T889 through tethering (both through USB and wifi hotspot) flawlessly (actually, on my phone right now, no internet around). I am not sure why you would have issues. I installed no additional drivers. I'm on the defaults. I did run windows update on first boot (maybe this has something to do with it?).

Brightness is win8's own fault. Click on the battery icon, more power options, more settings in the plan, advanced options, scroll down to display, disable adaptive brightness (yes, I had this issue initially too, seems that it was win8's fault, not the macbook air's).
I totally agree that the default trackpad's drivers suck. Completely. But I'm on trackpad++ right now, and it's lightyears better than the sony vaio pro 13 I was using before I got this.

Note that I'm not a macfag. In truth, I bought this laptop only because it was $200 cheaper than the sony vaio (wtf and here i was thinking apples were overpriced) while providing a BETTER CPU than the vaio (also returned the vaio because it didn't provide touchscreen drivers, meaning I can't install my own version of windows without losing touch and it mislead me on the battery, nominal 7.5V 4.7A, giving only 35W and double that with the sheet battery, but it makes the overall machine too fat and it's reviews said that it often dropped wifi connections).

Sharpness-wise, I can't say anything. OS X is smoother. It's always been smoother even on the same hardware. Only reason to like osx.

Zintaro
Aug 19, 2013, 05:43 AM
I am having the problem with the Wifi. Once I installed windows 8, no networks show up on the wifi thingy. Works fine on OSX

m98custom1212
Aug 19, 2013, 09:35 AM
I am having the problem with the Wifi. Once I installed windows 8, no networks show up on the wifi thingy. Works fine on OSX

did install the drivers?

Whosjohnny
Sep 26, 2013, 05:43 AM
Hi guys,

Alright, Bootcamp 5 was not straight forward - most doc don't mention EFI 2.0 until you Google to select EFI instead of WININSTALL.

I hated Windows RT (for my wife, can't find myself to recommend), returned after using it for 3 days knowing ALL the LIMITATIONS going in, giving it 100% chance - FAIL. Hardware is the most beautiful thing but what a SHAM (yes without the 'e'). I like Windows 8 Pro, as smooth as Windows can get, Metro interface grows on you, it's NOT hard and stop for once about Start button - it's okay, not the end of the world; think top-right for your essential Search, Control Panel, Device Manager. Microsoft need to hire good marketing executives and bring forth why they designed Metro and showcase it!! There are no equivalent docu-mercials like Apple does with Joni and team. C'mon Microsoft.

I worked with computers since Atari, Ti99/4A, Commodore 64, Apple IIc, 8088, 8086, 80286, 386 SX and DX, 486 25/33/66 DX, Pentium 60/66 then 90, AMD 100/120/133/166 OC, Celeron 266mhz OC to 400mhz stable. you name it, I use, abuse, hack, program, you get the picture =) I'm also a gamer spending upward of $1,000 just for one graphics card and I milk thousands of CUDA core using state of the art software and drive multi-core cpu cycles to blistering dreams.

So here are my thoughts after decades of computer use:

1. I should have used Mac earlier. Coming from a background that have NEVER used a MAC, I can Google search anything equivalent in seconds and was able to maneuver Apple OS ecosystem quickly at exponential rate. I'll eventually get in the root and write scripts after I mastered the GUI.

MAC OS is by far the MOST POLISHED OS I have ever seen. Everything from design, hardware feel, usage experience can be summed up in one word - ORGASM. There is a reason why overpriced Apple continue to fly off the shelf with IDIOTS jaw dropping in TOTAL DISBELIEF. Apple love this shyt. They know they're FAR more intelligent than geeks who THINK they know but DO NOT.

Apple knows human nature and everything they built starts with this premise - WHAT DO I WANT TO FEEL when I touch this? HOW WILL I FEEL when I use that? Will I get an ORGASM? If no ORGASM, go back the F to the drawing board to create the ORGASM experience. You see? They never loose sight of what really matters, you experience an ORGASM and hence they will be remembered in the history books in the 21st Century as the Beginning of a New Age for humanity.

2. I know I have bored you to death so I'll make it simple - OS X Mountain Lion is SMOOTHER than Windows 8, albeit not much but noticeable. That is high praise for Windows and we know running Windows on MacBook Air isn't 100% fully optimized like a normal Win-laptop hardware. Good enough.

CONCLUSION:
I love my 11" MacBook Air running Win8 dualboot on a sleek 1kg body, time to switch and completely reboot is around 8 seconds, either direction (Win8 boots surprisingly fast). This is for my wife. I will purchase the top of the line MacBook Pro 15" w/ faster Flash SSD, i7 Quad Haswell CPU w/ Iris 5100, 16 GB (to run ESXi vSphere 5.5 for Cisco UC stuff), latest beaming wifi, Thunderbolt 2 and 4K resolution. Win8 is down demoted to my secondary, use it only when necessary, unless Microsoft pull off a magic trick in time to save their consumer space, which is on a free fall. Enterprise server, cloud should be ok.

m98custom1212
Sep 26, 2013, 06:25 AM
Hi guys,

Alright, Bootcamp 5 was not straight forward - most doc don't mention EFI 2.0 until you Google to select EFI instead of WININSTALL.

I hated Windows RT (for my wife, can't find myself to recommend), returned after using it for 3 days knowing ALL the LIMITATIONS going in, giving it 100% chance - FAIL. Hardware is the most beautiful thing but what a SHAM (yes without the 'e'). I like Windows 8 Pro, as smooth as Windows can get, Metro interface grows on you, it's NOT hard and stop for once about Start button - it's okay, not the end of the world; think top-right for your essential Search, Control Panel, Device Manager. Microsoft need to hire good marketing executives and bring forth why they designed Metro and showcase it!! There are no equivalent docu-mercials like Apple does with Joni and team. C'mon Microsoft.

I worked with computers since Atari, Ti99/4A, Commodore 64, Apple IIc, 8088, 8086, 80286, 386 SX and DX, 486 25/33/66 DX, Pentium 60/66 then 90, AMD 100/120/133/166 OC, Celeron 266mhz OC to 400mhz stable. you name it, I use, abuse, hack, program, you get the picture =) I'm also a gamer spending upward of $1,000 just for one graphics card and I milk thousands of CUDA core using state of the art software and drive multi-core cpu cycles to blistering dreams.

So here are my thoughts after decades of computer use:

1. I should have used Mac earlier. Coming from a background that have NEVER used a MAC, I can Google search anything equivalent in seconds and was able to maneuver Apple OS ecosystem quickly at exponential rate. I'll eventually get in the root and write scripts after I mastered the GUI.

MAC OS is by far the MOST POLISHED OS I have ever seen. Everything from design, hardware feel, usage experience can be summed up in one word - ORGASM. There is a reason why overpriced Apple continue to fly off the shelf with IDIOTS jaw dropping in TOTAL DISBELIEF. Apple love this shyt. They know they're FAR more intelligent than geeks who THINK they know but DO NOT.

Apple knows human nature and everything they built starts with this premise - WHAT DO I WANT TO FEEL when I touch this? HOW WILL I FEEL when I use that? Will I get an ORGASM? If no ORGASM, go back the F to the drawing board to create the ORGASM experience. You see? They never loose sight of what really matters, you experience an ORGASM and hence they will be remembered in the history books in the 21st Century as the Beginning of a New Age for humanity.

2. I know I have bored you to death so I'll make it simple - OS X Mountain Lion is SMOOTHER than Windows 8, albeit not much but noticeable. That is high praise for Windows and we know running Windows on MacBook Air isn't 100% fully optimized like a normal Win-laptop hardware. Good enough.

CONCLUSION:
I love my 11" MacBook Air running Win8 dualboot on a sleek 1kg body, time to switch and completely reboot is around 8 seconds, either direction (Win8 boots surprisingly fast). This is for my wife. I will purchase the top of the line MacBook Pro 15" w/ faster Flash SSD, i7 Quad Haswell CPU w/ Iris 5100, 16 GB (to run ESXi vSphere 5.5 for Cisco UC stuff), latest beaming wifi, Thunderbolt 2 and 4K resolution. Win8 is down demoted to my secondary, use it only when necessary, unless Microsoft pull off a magic trick in time to save their consumer space, which is on a free fall. Enterprise server, cloud should be ok.


You're a computer genius and you couldn't figure this out?

Then you contradict your self when you talk about how MNT Lion is smoother than Windows 8 but the Macbook isn't optimized for windows

Dirt Bringer
Sep 27, 2013, 09:00 AM
Alright, so I have a pretty straightforward question for you all. I need a new laptop and I'm looking between a few windows models and the macbook pro and macbook air. It will be used for some work in Autodesk Maya and Adobe products work.

My main desktop is pretty powerful, I need this device for classroom and mobile work. I don't really care about which operating system is better, I need to be able to run windows, period. How well do the drivers on the windows side with the macbook air actually work, and how much support will there be in the future for drivers?

Personally I want the macbook air, it seems to offer the best balance of features I want for the price, but if it can't run windows as well as I need then it's a no go. I would run OSX as well, but not as my main OS. Any opinions here?

ZBoater
Sep 27, 2013, 12:09 PM
If you are looking for a Windows laptop, but a Windows laptop. The Macbook Air is not a Windows laptop.

Having said that, the MBA runs Windows very well, both natively and in a VM (with Parallels or VMWare). However, some users complain about the trackpad not being supported very well, and the video driver will lag a bit in development.

Don't expect Apple to support Windows on their laptops as well as a Windows laptop manufacturer (like Sony or Dell) would. It just doesn't make any sense.

If you do not want to run OS X at all, it doesn't make sense to buy a Macbook. IMO.

Dirt Bringer
Sep 27, 2013, 12:16 PM
If you are looking for a Windows laptop, but a Windows laptop. The Macbook Air is not a Windows laptop.

Having said that, the MBA runs Windows very well, both natively and in a VM (with Parallels or VMWare). However, some users complain about the trackpad not being supported very well, and the video driver will lag a bit in development.

Don't expect Apple to support Windows on their laptops as well as a Windows laptop manufacturer (like Sony or Dell) would. It just doesn't make any sense.

If you do not want to run OS X at all, it doesn't make sense to buy a Macbook. IMO.

Well I do want to run OS X, but I want to run Windows more. I was mainly going for the price to hardware ratio, build quality, overall finish, and support for parts, should I need any. I'm mainly looking for a mobile machine that runs windows programs well, because most of my software just works better or is only available in windows. To me it's about getting the job done and the quality of finish on the machine, including hardware. If OS X or Linux got the job done faster for me, I'd use those instead.

ZBoater
Sep 27, 2013, 02:10 PM
Well I do want to run OS X, but I want to run Windows more. I was mainly going for the price to hardware ratio, build quality, overall finish, and support for parts, should I need any. I'm mainly looking for a mobile machine that runs windows programs well, because most of my software just works better or is only available in windows. To me it's about getting the job done and the quality of finish on the machine, including hardware. If OS X or Linux got the job done faster for me, I'd use those instead.

My point was that if Windows was your primary concern, you are better off with a Dell or a Sony, someone who has a vested interest in supporting you.

Apple has done a very good job supporting Windows on their Macs. But there are issues. Little issues for sure. I also run some Windows apps but am trying to transition to OS X. Still have some Windows apps, and I can boot native into Win7 x64 or run several flavors of Windows in virtual machines. They run very, very well.

But I have read all sorts of horror stories with the Bootcamp drivers, and if I had a big problem with Windows I would't expect Apple to make it a priority to fix it, unlike say Dell, which ships with Windows.

I have more confidence in Parallels supporting Windows that Apple, but having said that, Windows runs natively on my MBA just fine. I also have to say it runs better than any other Windows laptop I have ever owned.

Take the plunge. If push comes to shove, buy a cheap Windows laptop, but it shouldn't come to that. Also remember that the new Macs only support 64 bit versions of Windows 7 and 8. Any other versions of Windows won't run in Bootcamp, although they will run in a virtual machine.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634

cdd543
Sep 27, 2013, 03:46 PM
I think I'm going to give this a run--I have the new air with i7, 512ssd and 8 gigs.

m98custom1212
Sep 27, 2013, 03:54 PM
Alright, so I have a pretty straightforward question for you all. I need a new laptop and I'm looking between a few windows models and the macbook pro and macbook air. It will be used for some work in Autodesk Maya and Adobe products work.

My main desktop is pretty powerful, I need this device for classroom and mobile work. I don't really care about which operating system is better, I need to be able to run windows, period. How well do the drivers on the windows side with the macbook air actually work, and how much support will there be in the future for drivers?

Personally I want the macbook air, it seems to offer the best balance of features I want for the price, but if it can't run windows as well as I need then it's a no go. I would run OSX as well, but not as my main OS. Any opinions here?

I recommend going with a comparable ultrabook to the air. I had my air for about two months and I was having minor issues with Windows 8 and some bigger issues with Windows 8.1.

I sold my macbook air just recently and brought an Acer S7

Miltz
Sep 27, 2013, 04:41 PM
I have a simple question. Aside from the cool or wow factor of running windows 8 on a macbook air, Why are you running Windows 8 on it? Are you not happy with Lion? Are you using special software not available for OSX? etc. I'm curious.

Dirt Bringer
Sep 27, 2013, 08:48 PM
I have a simple question. Aside from the cool or wow factor of running windows 8 on a macbook air, Why are you running Windows 8 on it? Are you not happy with Lion? Are you using special software not available for OSX? etc. I'm curious.

There is nothing cool about Windows to me. I'm a Linux guy at heart, but I use the operating system that runs my required software (for school) best, and allows me to do my homework most efficiently. That would be windows. From the perspective of a power user, I consider Windows to be more efficient on a human scale, for technical work. The day I find a reason to use Mac OS due to efficiency, I will, and the same goes for Linux. I don't care about OS, I'm comfortable with any, I care about getting my work done.

ZBoater
Sep 28, 2013, 11:24 AM
I have a simple question. Aside from the cool or wow factor of running windows 8 on a macbook air, Why are you running Windows 8 on it? Are you not happy with Lion? Are you using special software not available for OSX? etc. I'm curious.

Because Quicken doesn't make Quicken Pro for Mac,

Because Escort Radar doesn't make their update app for Mac.

Because Garmin Mapsource doesn't run on Mac.

Etc etc etc.

Dirt Bringer
Sep 28, 2013, 01:47 PM
I recommend going with a comparable ultrabook to the air. I had my air for about two months and I was having minor issues with Windows 8 and some bigger issues with Windows 8.1.

I sold my macbook air just recently and brought an Acer S7

What kind of issues were you having? I'm looking at the Acer s7 and Dell XPS 13/14. I do want a Mac, mostly for the novelty of never had one, but being in the same boat as you and having to run Windows may put a damper on that idea when reality kicks in.

m98custom1212
Sep 28, 2013, 04:04 PM
What kind of issues were you having? I'm looking at the Acer s7 and Dell XPS 13/14. I do want a Mac, mostly for the novelty of never had one, but being in the same boat as you and having to run Windows may put a damper on that idea when reality kicks in.

1. connection dropping on my Bluetooth mouse
2. Slow transfers to my nas and work nas
3. Waking up from sleep takes few minutes to recognize the keyboard and touchpad

Dirt Bringer
Sep 28, 2013, 05:44 PM
1. connection dropping on my Bluetooth mouse
2. Slow transfers to my nas and work nas
3. Waking up from sleep takes few minutes to recognize the keyboard and touchpad

Were you able to solve any of those issues? the bluetooth and more specifically the sleep wake would affect me pretty heavily as I tend to open and close the laptop pretty regularly at school. Has anyone else experienced the same issues with Windows on the Air?

Miguel Cunha
Sep 28, 2013, 06:12 PM
Aren't u dying to have a touch screen though?

I, myself am not very fond of touch screens, at all.

m98custom1212
Sep 28, 2013, 06:14 PM
Were you able to solve any of those issues? the bluetooth and more specifically the sleep wake would affect me pretty heavily as I tend to open and close the laptop pretty regularly at school. Has anyone else experienced the same issues with Windows on the Air?

Nope I couldn't solved any of the issues. That's I finally just sold it. I got sick of the issues. I didnt have the wake problem until a few weeks ago. I did try install new drivers and fresh installs, making new bootcamp usb. I was opening and closing the air all the time between home work and school. I tried windows 8.1 and that was complete failure.

I tried using parallels and it just wasn't the same.

Miguel Cunha
Sep 28, 2013, 06:16 PM
I've been using my new base 2013 MacBook Air in Windows 8 over the past few days and I'm really enjoying it. Some observations:

1. Overall performance seems faster (!) than in Mountain lion: I can have more than 50 Chrome tabs open, Spotify streaming music and Acrobat open and have no lag or problems at all. Perhaps this is because of the implementation of Chrome in Windows, but I really like it. I have a suspicion that memory management in Windows 8 might be better than in Mountain Lion, because I have dozens of tabs open in Chrome, Spotify and Acrobat running, as well as many Metro apps open and still have task manager only showing 2.0GB of RAM used.

2. Windows 8 boots up very fast -- I'm getting to the desktop in less than 10 seconds. That's amazing.

3. I just love the graphics in Windows 8: I like how it shows you a graph with the copy rate it shows when copying stuff, I love the new task manager, and I just love the overall snappiness of it.

4. WiFi is faaaaast. I can stream HD movies from my DRLINK AC1200 router while downloading apps in Chrome and having many tabs open in it without any hiccups at all.

5. I'm getting 11 hours of battery life. In Windows. (Jaw drops.)

5. I like the Metro News app. I also generally just like reading articles, browsing the web, watching Netflix and using Twitter in the Metro mode of Windows 8. :)

Have others using Windows 8 on the new Airs had a similar experience?

Those are great news.
Thanks for sharing.
It would be interesting to have comparison with Windows 7.

dhruv.fomra
Nov 27, 2013, 02:01 AM
Has anyone run tally erp 9, on macbook air using windows. I'd like to know if its runs smoothly?

mynameis321
Nov 27, 2013, 07:41 AM
I have it running on parallels and to be honest, the screen looks MUCH sharper and overall better on Windows 8 than it does on Mountain Lion

Samsung 13 inch/i5/8/128 2013 model

selaing
Nov 27, 2013, 08:54 AM
I am thinking of a new laptop at work and thinking Mac Air. I have these at home.
Problem - work runs Windows.

Question:
Anyone running windows with two monitors - something like docking a Mac to have lid shut and use keyboard and mouse?

which monitors are you using and what is your set up?

cheers

iRun26.2
Nov 27, 2013, 04:44 PM
Aren't u dying to have a touch screen though?

You are joking, right?

nx300m
Feb 11, 2014, 02:20 AM
I've been using my new base 2013 MacBook Air in Windows 8 over the past few days and I'm really enjoying it. Some observations:

1. Overall performance seems faster (!) than in Mountain lion: I can have more than 50 Chrome tabs open, Spotify streaming music and Acrobat open and have no lag or problems at all. Perhaps this is because of the implementation of Chrome in Windows, but I really like it. I have a suspicion that memory management in Windows 8 might be better than in Mountain Lion, because I have dozens of tabs open in Chrome, Spotify and Acrobat running, as well as many Metro apps open and still have task manager only showing 2.0GB of RAM used.

2. Windows 8 boots up very fast -- I'm getting to the desktop in less than 10 seconds. That's amazing.

3. I just love the graphics in Windows 8: I like how it shows you a graph with the copy rate it shows when copying stuff, I love the new task manager, and I just love the overall snappiness of it.

4. WiFi is faaaaast. I can stream HD movies from my DRLINK AC1200 router while downloading apps in Chrome and having many tabs open in it without any hiccups at all.

5. I'm getting 11 hours of battery life. In Windows. (Jaw drops.)

5. I like the Metro News app. I also generally just like reading articles, browsing the web, watching Netflix and using Twitter in the Metro mode of Windows 8. :)

Have others using Windows 8 on the new Airs had a similar experience?


Hello, I'm planning to buy the macbook air. Can you please tell me how much GB partition do you have in your windows 8 and how much GB you have left in OSX? Thanks.

Brandon263
Feb 11, 2014, 02:34 AM
Hello, I'm planning to buy the macbook air. Can you please tell me how much GB partition do you have in your windows 8 and how much GB you have left in OSX? Thanks.


Hi, I have a 50 GB Windows drive and the rest in OSX. I have about 30GB free in OS X.

Dweez
Feb 11, 2014, 06:18 AM
My 2013 MBA has some pretty good OSX performance as well... :) :)

Wicked1
Feb 19, 2014, 10:00 AM
Ummm....what ????????? Do you have a 2013 11' i5 or i7? looks like you may have a 13'

Hey how do you like the 2013 11" MBA
1.7 8GB/512GB?

i am thinking of pulling the trigger on a refurb for $1,489 from Apple