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MacBytes
Nov 10, 2005, 02:17 AM
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Link: Apple's Growing Army of Converts (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20051110031721)

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ntg
Nov 10, 2005, 05:02 AM
an interesting article, and one that definitely seems to be very conservative!
If the percentage figures are even doubled, then Apple is in for a good year in 2006 - especially if they get the Mactels out starting January at the expo. Lots more switchers, purely because they will need new hardware to run all those games they got for Xmas, and if the new apples are dual-bootable then they would be the preferred family-computer of choice.
They will satisfy the regular games-players with good X600 (or newer) graphics acceleration, and then for homework and online stuff they can switch to OSX and do it all without the risk of virii, malware and all the other crap they will have been used to as windows-users.

Definitely looking rosy for 2006!

Nig.:D

GorillaPaws
Nov 10, 2005, 07:37 AM
Yeah... I was also impressed w/ this article. It seems like all we've been getting lately are either overly enthusiastic Apple articles, or one written to flamebait the Mac Community into getting high numbers for their advertizing. It's refreshing to hear a fairly objective view of the switching phenomina. I did think the marketshare numbers seemed kind of low though 2% (did he mean global?)?

Seasought
Nov 10, 2005, 09:08 AM
How long have the Apple stores been around (estimate)?

ntg
Nov 10, 2005, 09:35 AM
How long have the Apple stores been around (estimate)?

Since May 2001, but I can't remember where - probably California somewhere (maybe LA?)

Nig.

Seasought
Nov 10, 2005, 09:39 AM
Since May 2001, but I can't remember where - probably California somewhere (maybe LA?)


Thanks.

nagromme
Nov 10, 2005, 10:07 AM
There was mention of an analyst's view of the halo effect: people buying an iPod SOON after buying a Mac.

I think the far larger effect is people buying their first Mac much later. People who have always "just assumed" one should only ever choose Microsoft. But the seed is planted. Maybe when they naturally replace their computer in a year, it will be a Mac. Or maybe they won't quite make the leap then--maybe the computer after that. The seed has been planted, they are AWARE of Macs in a more conscious way, and one day--often NOT soon--they will take the plunge.

Purely a guess, but I think that probably will turn out to describe even greater numbers of people than the short-term halo switchers we're seeing now.

Of course, Leopard on next-gen Intel chips while Vista's first mass virus outbreaks are in the press can't hurt either :)

plinden
Nov 10, 2005, 10:30 AM
I think the far larger effect is people buying their first Mac much later. People who have always "just assumed" one should only ever choose Microsoft.
Well, I've had my iPod since February, and still don't have my Mac, but I made the decision that my next computer is going to be a Mac about 18 months ago. I haven't been waiting the next great thing, it's just that I don't actually need one since my PCs are running without many problems (note "many" - yes, I do accept that my PC is going to have some problems - albeit minor).

But my desktop is 4 years old, still running ok but showing more and more of the windows annoyances that means I'll need to reinstall Windows soon. I've just bought a DV camera (on its way, not yet delivered) and I'm hoping that the old PC can't handle editing video.

I think I'll get an iMac in the new year and put Linux on the old PC, then get one of the dual core PBs when they come out.

GorillaPaws
Nov 10, 2005, 11:06 AM
Nagromme - I think you've hit the nail on the head with your halo theory. I've been wondering the same thing myself. It's all about legitimizing and impressing pc users w/ the Apple mystique, not about getting them to switch the next day (after all they did just spend several hundred dollars on an mp3 player). Computer purchase take time/budgeting/forethought (I know there's some impulse buyers here on the forum but you know what I mean). It's like you said the seed has been planted (after all seeds do take a while to bear fruit).

IJ Reilly
Nov 10, 2005, 11:19 AM
How long have the Apple stores been around (estimate)?

The first two stores were opened on May 19, 2001. They were Glendale Galleria (CA) and Tyson's Corner (VA). They were the first of 27 stores opened in 2001.

winmacguy
Nov 10, 2005, 11:19 AM
Yeah... I was also impressed w/ this article. It seems like all we've been getting lately are either overly enthusiastic Apple articles, or one written to flamebait the Mac Community into getting high numbers for their advertizing.
The articles that get posted are the articles that are available which have been written by an assortment of journalists and reporters expressing their opinions about Apple, not everybody has the same opinion about Apple as we do.:confused: :rolleyes:

GorillaPaws
Nov 10, 2005, 11:48 AM
The articles that get posted are the articles that are available which have been written by an assortment of journalists and reporters expressing their opinions about Apple, not everybody has the same opinion about Apple as we do.:confused: :rolleyes:

Yeah... It just seems like the stuff that's been available has been really polarized one way or the other pro/anti Apple, I just thought it was refreshing to read some news that seemed more objective/balanced, that all. I wasn't trying to blame anyone here or Macbytes for this, just pointing out a trend in the media of late (at least one that I've percieved - maybe it was a misperception).

AtHomeBoy_2000
Nov 10, 2005, 11:50 AM
I am a recent conver to Macs. Glad to be here, I'l never go back!

(Also, I'm working on a presentation to switch my work over to Macs over the next 2 years :))

shamino
Nov 10, 2005, 04:53 PM
Since May 2001, but I can't remember where - probably California somewhere (maybe LA?)
Here's the press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/may/15retail.html). The announcement was made on May 15, 2001.

Two stores opened initially. One in Tyson's Corner, VA (http://www.apple.com/retail/tysons/) (near where I live :D ) and the other in Glendale, CA (http://www.apple.com/retail/glendale/).

winmacguy
Nov 10, 2005, 10:53 PM
Yeah... It just seems like the stuff that's been available has been really polarized one way or the other pro/anti Apple, I just thought it was refreshing to read some news that seemed more objective/balanced, that all. I wasn't trying to blame anyone here or Macbytes for this, just pointing out a trend in the media of late (at least one that I've percieved - maybe it was a misperception).
I think your probably quite correct in your assumption GorillaPaws, I don't think there is such a thing as "middle ground" when your talking about or reviewing Macs and PCs. I think most of the opions on these web forums come from more informed users who are commenting on articles not necessarily written by "informed" Mac users so the resulting headlines and comments tend to be like an art director and 50 other people subjectively commenting on your artistic contribution to the project...they can get pretty one sided from either end of the scale:eek:

Edit: that seems to be how things go in the anonimity of web forums;) :cool:

IJ Reilly
Nov 11, 2005, 10:44 AM
Here's the press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/may/15retail.html). The announcement was made on May 15, 2001.

Two stores opened initially. One in Tyson's Corner, VA (http://www.apple.com/retail/tysons/) (near where I live :D ) and the other in Glendale, CA (http://www.apple.com/retail/glendale/).

But didn't I already say that? Yes, I did... ;)