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Jul 24, 2013, 01:59 PM
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The company behind the popular Twine Kickstarter project (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermechanical/twine-listen-to-your-world-talk-to-the-internet) has launched a new iOS-enabled food thermometer project (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermechanical/range-smart-thermometer-smarter-cook) called 'Range'.

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Range comes in two flavors, one for meat and the other for high-temperature projects like candy-making. The team have not used a wireless solution like the Bluetooth used in the iGrill -- instead, the designers chose to connect the Range directly to the headphone jack of the iPhone or iPad. As a result, the thermometer can be used in the oven to monitor the temperature of roasts and the like.
Clip it on or stick it in and set an alert for the desired temperature with the Range app for iOS (we include presets for common uses). While you do the dishes or sip a well-deserved glass of wine, Range graphs the temperature over time so you can learn and improve from each experiment. Once the roast has reached temperature and achieved perfection, Range tells you.
Range is available for preorder/backing (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermechanical/range-smart-thermometer-smarter-cook) on Kickstarter for $49 for one, or $89 for both variants.

Article Link: Team Behind 'Twine' Introduces the 'Range' iOS Food Thermometer (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/24/team-behind-twine-introduces-the-range-ios-food-thermometer/)



Sky Blue
Jul 24, 2013, 02:05 PM
Like the idea, not sure I want to leave my phone outside next to the grill

Lord Hamsa
Jul 24, 2013, 02:07 PM
Like the idea, not sure I want to leave my phone outside next to the grill

Yeah, I'd like this better if the terminal end of the cable went to a Bluetooth module so I could connect to it wirelessly. I like the idea of this device, but I don't my iOS device physically tethered to to stove/grill.

curmudgeon32
Jul 24, 2013, 02:08 PM
I'm I'm understanding this right, the thermometer is attached via a cord to your phone, so you have to either leave your phone inside the oven, or have a cord keeping your oven from closing correctly?

Corrode
Jul 24, 2013, 02:09 PM
Next project: iThermometer for your butt.

Lord Hamsa
Jul 24, 2013, 02:12 PM
I'm I'm understanding this right, the thermometer is attached via a cord to your phone, so you have to either leave your phone inside the oven, or have a cord keeping your oven from closing correctly?

There are already loads of digital thermometers with probes that feed into the oven. The cable basically squishes into the seal around the door - the door closes just fine.

Sky Blue
Jul 24, 2013, 02:16 PM
I'm I'm understanding this right, the thermometer is attached via a cord to your phone, so you have to either leave your phone inside the oven, or have a cord keeping your oven from closing correctly?

I have a thermometer that has it's open display on the end. The cord is usually pretty long and heat proof.

Doctor Q
Jul 24, 2013, 02:22 PM
The 4' cord might not be enough to reach the counter, depending on the kitchen layout, but I suppose you can use an audio extension cord if you have to.

An alternative would have been a design with a small cord that connects the thermometer in the oven to a small blue booth transmitter outside the oven, which would let you put your iOS device anywhere in the vicinity.

Klae17
Jul 24, 2013, 02:27 PM
I like that these accessories are coming out for ios. However, you have to question the need for something like this when a regular thermometer will do the job better.

MarCow
Jul 24, 2013, 02:31 PM
I have a thermometer that has it's open display on the end. The cord is usually pretty long and heat proof.

Right - there's no "as a result, the thermometer can be used in the oven" here. I have an iGrill, and the main unit sits outside the oven with the probe inside. The same would be true of the Range, apart from the fact that it's my iPhone/iPad at the other end of the wire, instead of an iGrill unit which then transmits to the iPhone via Bluetooth. This would mean my iPhone is tethered to my oven for as long as I'm cooking, and that wouldn't be great if I'm using it outside with my grill (which is what I normally do with the iGrill). Shame, as the app looks very nice in comparison to the iGrill app.

Why not allow this to be plugged into a Twine, as well as directly into an iPhone? I already have two Twines, and the Range app ought to be able to be made to work with it I would think.

SockRolid
Jul 24, 2013, 02:32 PM
Nice, but wouldn't you rather just say "Siri - heat roast to a maximum internal temperature of 140 fahrenheit"?

HiRez
Jul 24, 2013, 02:41 PM
If the inside of the cord is metal, how does it avoid having heat travel up the cord over time to fry your iPhone/iPad?

John.B
Jul 24, 2013, 02:46 PM
I'm I'm understanding this right, the thermometer is attached via a cord to your phone, so you have to either leave your phone inside the oven, or have a cord keeping your oven from closing correctly?

Cook much? I didn't think so. LOL!

trainwrecka
Jul 24, 2013, 02:57 PM
Yeah, I'd like this better if the terminal end of the cable went to a Bluetooth module so I could connect to it wirelessly. I like the idea of this device, but I don't my iOS device physically tethered to to stove/grill.

The iGrill came out a couple years ago and does just that: http://www.igrillinc.com

The early reviews showed great promise, but some of the current ones on Amazon are 1 star reviews. They do sell this in the Apple Store as well.

I would have jumped all over backing this if it had bluetooth, but not with leaving my phone outside.

sundog925
Jul 24, 2013, 03:06 PM
Hasn't the novelty wore off on you guys complaining about leaving the phone outside?

jesus. its a PHONE. i was uber uptight about mine too, then after a month, it gets tossed around like everything else

GET OUTTA YOUR BUBBLES!!

and those who say "blah blah $600 device noise noise", u most likely paid $200 so just do me a favor and leave your snarky comment at the door.

/end

HitchHykr
Jul 24, 2013, 03:20 PM
Hasn't the novelty wore off on you guys complaining about leaving the phone outside?

jesus. its a PHONE. i was uber uptight about mine too, then after a month, it gets tossed around like everything else

GET OUTTA YOUR BUBBLES!!

and those who say "blah blah $600 device noise noise", u most likely paid $200 so just do me a favor and leave your snarky comment at the door.

/end

I think it's time for a Snickers bar....

Boatboy24
Jul 24, 2013, 03:38 PM
The price is nice, but the iGrill renders this virtually useless in comparisson.

dazed
Jul 24, 2013, 03:51 PM
Nice idea, terrible video. Very unprofessionally shot and sounds like the sound was recorded inside a tin.

Doesn't exactly inspire quality.

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I think it's time for a Snickers bar....

You win best quote of the day :)

jkestner
Jul 24, 2013, 04:17 PM
Hi - Range creator (and longtime MacRumors reader) here. Thanks for the interest. We went with wired instead of wireless for reasons of reliability/cost/battery anxiety/reliability. Also, we did design it for more than just outdoor grilling. :) Put your phone under a bowl and/or repurpose your old 3GS, maybe. I'm most excited about our plans for the app - we didn't want to just do some skeuomorphic temperature dial. I'm going to get to be scientific with my complex experiments using the recipe graphing!

We're conscious of the shortcomings of some other things out there, and we wanted to provide a well-designed alternative - hope you like it enough to back us, or like us enough to support our ongoing development of cool new objects you'll want in the future.

Sorry the Kickstarter video was the impression you took away of the product - the audio bugs me too.

friedmud
Jul 24, 2013, 05:19 PM
For everyone that wants bluetooth - look into iGrill (also referenced in this story). It looks _much_ better than this...

thefourthpope
Jul 24, 2013, 05:46 PM
Like the concept. I expect to phase my ipad2 out as a recipe / kitchen media center, and hadn't thought about it as a temperature gauge, too.
But like others have said, tethering it right next to 400+ degrees....I dunno

japasneezemonk
Jul 24, 2013, 08:48 PM
Having worked in a commercial kitchen for a about 10 years, I can tell you that this thermometer looks cool, but in a fast paced kitchen where your firing meals for multiple covers faster than you can plate any dishes, this would be utterly useless (and fragile). We use some super fast Thermapen Thermometers that do need to be used with care, but won't break if you drop them or melt if you leave too close to a range spitting out 20,000 BTU's.

mrgraff
Jul 24, 2013, 10:24 PM
The video is not that great, but I'm kind of glad actually. Sometimes I watch those slick overproduced kickstarter videos and wonder what they need my money for.

dantastic
Jul 25, 2013, 05:59 AM
A digital thermometer with alarm and all funky features cost what, up to $20 or so. It can also withstand a lot more abuse than an iDevice ever could.

I have an old iPad assigned to kitchen duties already. Great for recipes and the like but I can't see myself spending $50 on this thing over a conventional digital thermometer.

roadbloc
Jul 25, 2013, 06:42 AM
As an ex-chef, I can't see an iPhone going through the abuse the Kitchen equipment gets unfairly dealt. Neat idea though.

otismotive77
Jul 25, 2013, 07:44 AM
wont that just fry my iphone, i mean, putting it near a roast, it's like suicide.

jaknudsen
Jul 25, 2013, 08:49 AM
Hi - Range creator (and longtime MacRumors reader) here. Thanks for the interest. We went with wired instead of wireless for reasons of reliability/cost/battery anxiety/reliability. Also, we did design it for more than just outdoor grilling. :) Put your phone under a bowl and/or repurpose your old 3GS, maybe. I'm most excited about our plans for the app - we didn't want to just do some skeuomorphic temperature dial. I'm going to get to be scientific with my complex experiments using the recipe graphing!

It really is a great idea for an app, but a wired connection between the device and the thermometer means I'll never consider using it.

fwunder
Jul 25, 2013, 08:58 AM
Hi - Range creator (and longtime MacRumors reader) here. Thanks for the interest....

Great start for a potentially very useful tool jkestner! Silicone handle is a great feature. You could sell that as a standalone addon for current probes.

My wish list would include:

1) A dual port probe for measuring/ranging environment as well as product.

This would be particularly useful for those of us who enjoy the art (science) of smoking meats or suspect our oven is not staying at a consistent temperature while roasting that turkey.

2) Increase the top-end range to 600.

This would be helpful on the dual port (environment) option. Pizza ovens and BBQ grills get hot! The bottom range of -40 is more than adequate for documenting/troubleshooting (ranging) problems with the refrigerator/freezer temperature fluctuating!

3) Wi-Fi/Bluetooth module or docking station option.

Advantages are obvious.

trainwrecka
Jul 25, 2013, 09:37 AM
Hasn't the novelty wore off on you guys complaining about leaving the phone outside?...


No. The phone was not intended to be left outside. If you want to slow cook a brisket while leaving your 5 or repurposed 3GS next to it in the summer heat, go ahead. The iPhone will do you the favor of shutting itself down when it gets too hot.

I'm glad the creator came on here and stated why wireless wouldn't cut it for his product, but that is the feature I would want in a product like this. He currently has 381 backers though, so obviously not an issue for others.

I think with wireless included he would have reached funding already. I would have nabbed 2.

Kwill
Jul 25, 2013, 11:01 AM
No way in [oven] will this be a success.

eyehop
Jul 25, 2013, 01:27 PM
Should be good for stovetop projects that need precision temps like edible MMJ:)

St8kout
Jul 26, 2013, 04:36 AM
I thought this was a great idea, until I saw the price.

I was just shopping for a cooking thermometer the other day on Amazon and you've got some serious competition at half your asking price. There's even a remote unit that monitors two different foods at the same time (for double ovens) and even includes a wireless pager. You might have to contract out to some Chinese company to get your price down to a competitive level.

I ended up buying a cheapo quick-read battery-powered model. Granted it's not the kind you leave in the oven but it's cheap, fast, accurate, and highly rated.

Just sayin'...

St8kout
Aug 24, 2013, 11:48 PM
No way in [oven] will this be a success.

Actually in-oven sensors are plentiful and quite popular. The seal on an oven door is almost like the seal on a refrigerator door. It does the job without a lot of pressure on the seal. The sensor cord does just fine when you close the oven.