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MacRumors
Aug 14, 2013, 08:52 AM
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Following its announcement a couple of weeks ago (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/01/o2-becomes-second-british-carrier-to-offer-4g-services/), British carrier O2 has now detailed (http://news.o2.co.uk/2013/08/14/o2-unveils-4g-tariffs-complete-with-exclusive-music-sport-and-gaming-content/) the costs of its 4G tariffs on its website, with airtime plans starting from 22 (around $34) monthly. The plans (http://www.o2.co.uk/4g/4g-tariffs), which all include unlimited calling minutes and texts to any British network, include either 1 GB, 3 GB or 5 GB of data, with extra available to users who sign up before the end of October.Customers who also want to choose a new device have a range of options through O2 Refresh, which uniquely gives O2 customers the flexibility to get the latest device whenever they want. Airtime plans for O2 Refresh start from 22 a month for 1GB of data, and go up to 37 for 8GB. Customers have the flexibility to choose a 4G device at a price per month that suits them. The monthly device payment will range from 10 to 25, dependent on how a customer chooses to pay for one of over 10 4G-ready devices in O2's range.
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The new 4G plans also include a complementary 12-month subscription to O2 Tracks (http://tracks.o2.co.uk), the carrier's streaming music service, and feature "exclusive multiplayer online gaming" to try and entice users to sign up. Both EE and Vodafone, two other British carriers, also feature exclusive deals to new users who sign up to their 4G plans.

Vodafone became the third British carrier (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/07/vodafone-uk-announces-4g-service-rollout-begins-august-29/) to announce 4G services*a week ago and is planning to offer a promotional subscription to Spotify Premium (https://play.spotify.com/) and an exclusive deal with Sky Sports Mobile TV (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/07/vodafone-uk-announces-4g-service-rollout-begins-august-29/)*with its 4G plans, though there is no word yet on pricing. EE, which is currently the market leader in 4G services in the UK, offers a subscription to Deezer (http://www.deezer.com/en/), a French streaming music service similar to Spotify, and free mobile TV with its higher-end 4G plans, which start from 41 (around $63) monthly.

The new tariffs from O2 are priced exactly the same as similar plans from EE, although O2 is currently featuring an introductory offer whereby users who sign up to the new plans before the end of October are treated to extra data for no additional cost. The carrier has also introduced a "4G Phone Promise (http://www.o2.co.uk/4g/phone-promise)", which allows iPhone 5 owners on O2 to upgrade their phone to a 4G-compatible phone at no extra cost, with the carrier covering 25% of the cost of the remaining line rental.

O2 is expected to launch its 4G network in London, Leeds and Bradford on August 29th, with a further 10 cities due to be switched on by the end of the year. The network has promised speeds of up to 6 times faster than existing 3G services on the recently-licensed 800 MHz spectrum - a frequency not supported by the iPhone 5. The incompatibility is likely to be rectified with the launch of the iPhone 5S, which is expected to be introduced on September 10.

Article Link: O2 Details 4G Tariffs in the UK, Plans Start From £22/Month (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/14/o2-details-4g-tariffs-in-the-uk-plans-start-from-22month/)



Mums
Aug 14, 2013, 08:58 AM
I wish they'd just get rid of data limits.

lja
Aug 14, 2013, 09:02 AM
No iPhone 5 support ?

RickyB
Aug 14, 2013, 09:08 AM
The frequency band that O2 uses for 4G is incompatible with the iPhone 5.

Presumably the 5S will support it.

glenbogle
Aug 14, 2013, 09:13 AM
Worth waiting to see whether GiffGaff, who use O2's network, offer better prices than this. At the moment for 3G they're miles ahead on value.

daneoni
Aug 14, 2013, 09:16 AM
Thanks but no thanks.

CelestialToys
Aug 14, 2013, 09:34 AM
Completely pointless in the UK for at least another year...especially at those prices/data limits

digitalhen
Aug 14, 2013, 09:35 AM
Worth waiting to see whether GiffGaff, who use O2's network, offer better prices than this. At the moment for 3G they're miles ahead on value.

+1 for GiffGaff... the speed and the loss of battery life just aren't worth it when you see the prices on GG. I use it every time I come back home.

SeanMcg
Aug 14, 2013, 09:35 AM
I remember when 4G was being rolled out here in the States. There were posts in here mocking and criticizing how long it had taken to roll out 4G in the US. England is much smaller, yet only now rolling out 4G offerings.

Why is 4G service only being deployed now in England? Did they decide to use a different technology, bureaucracy, what? I'm sincerely curious.

OllyW
Aug 14, 2013, 09:38 AM
I remember when 4G was being rolled out here in the States. There were posts in here mocking and criticizing how long it had taken to roll out 4G in the US. England is much smaller, yet only now rolling out 4G offerings.

Why is 4G service only being deployed now in England? Did they decide to use a different technology, bureaucracy, what? I'm sincerely curious.

We've had to wait for the analogue TV transmitters to be shut down to free up the bandwidth for 4G.

SeanMcg
Aug 14, 2013, 09:42 AM
We've had to wait for the analogue TV transmitters to be shut down to free up the bandwidth for 4G.

OK, that makes sense, at least technically. I don't really care otherwise. Thanks.

Tsurisuto
Aug 14, 2013, 09:43 AM
I remember when 4G was being rolled out here in the States. There were posts in here mocking and criticizing how long it had taken to roll out 4G in the US. England is much smaller, yet only now rolling out 4G offerings.

Why is 4G service only being deployed now in England? Did they decide to use a different technology, bureaucracy, what? I'm sincerely curious.

If I'm not mistaken, I think it's because the frequency that the majority of the 4G networks will use in the UK has only recently become available. Up till now analogue TV was using that frequency. We have just ended analogue TV this year and auctioned off the space to the highest bidders.

mroddjob
Aug 14, 2013, 09:43 AM
Completely agree with CelestialToys, the 4G coverage at the moment is extremely poor. Only really worth it if you live in one of the big major cities, London, Birmingham, Manchester etc.

Also note how they are reducing the data limit at the end of October, presumably in time for the 5S to come out and flood the network.

rikscha
Aug 14, 2013, 09:49 AM
I remember when 4G was being rolled out here in the States. There were posts in here mocking and criticizing how long it had taken to roll out 4G in the US. England is much smaller, yet only now rolling out 4G offerings.

Why is 4G service only being deployed now in England? Did they decide to use a different technology, bureaucracy, what? I'm sincerely curious.

England ≠ UK and also, 4G was rolled out last year in the UK.

Primus84
Aug 14, 2013, 09:57 AM
In addition what some US carriers called 4G is called 3G in the UK - for example HSDPA and HSPA+.

cogitodexter
Aug 14, 2013, 10:29 AM
England ≠ UK and also, 4G was rolled out last year in the UK.

Yes, but only on the EE network and not on the frequencies that O2 and Vodafone will be using.

Personally I'm waiting for '3' to release their 4G/LTE plans: they're typically far better for price and provide genuinely unlimited data tariffs unlike the other providers.

CelestialToys
Aug 14, 2013, 10:32 AM
I remember when 4G was being rolled out here in the States. There were posts in here mocking and criticizing how long it had taken to roll out 4G in the US. England is much smaller, yet only now rolling out 4G offerings.

Why is 4G service only being deployed now in England? Did they decide to use a different technology, bureaucracy, what? I'm sincerely curious.

Partly the wait for the frequency ranges to be available and partly the fact that the UKs 3G service was far more mature than the US..There simply isn't yet the need for LTE in the UK

Seanfrancis5000
Aug 14, 2013, 11:22 AM
02 has too many users and there prices are incredibly expensive most likely the network will have problems and crash a lot like it did in 2012

SeanMcg
Aug 14, 2013, 11:32 AM
England ≠ UK ...

My apologies, I actuallly do know the difference between England and UK.

matjamca
Aug 14, 2013, 11:42 AM
O2 & Vodafone will be working together to provide 4G in the UK. However, all the research I've done points to EE having the biggest & best 4G network and Three will have the worst. Three have hardly any spectrum and EE have decided not to proceed with an EE/3 Joint Venture. The bonus with EE is that they'll be using 800, 1800 & 2600 MHz frequencies.

numlock
Aug 14, 2013, 11:55 AM
Completely pointless in the UK for at least another year...especially at those prices/data limits

id be over the moon to get these prices. im paying just under 30 pounds for 500 min/text/data

afd
Aug 14, 2013, 11:59 AM
Hope their 4G coverage is better than their 3G is. When I had an O2 contract most of my usage was gprs, it was very difficult to reach a 1GB limit with that.

eda
Aug 14, 2013, 11:59 AM
I just got an iPhone 5 on Three with unlimited data, when they roll out 4G later this year, I won't have to pay any extra for it. Still, their 3G is pretty fast anyway, I've been getting around 10-15 megabits down speed where I live, that's good enough for me.

daneoni
Aug 14, 2013, 12:07 PM
O2 & Vodafone will be working together to provide 4G in the UK. However, all the research I've done points to EE having the biggest & best 4G network and Three will have the worst. Three have hardly any spectrum and EE have decided not to proceed with an EE/3 Joint Venture. The bonus with EE is that they'll be using 800, 1800 & 2600 MHz frequencies.

The joint venture may have collapsed but EE is still be obliged by an EU ruling (http://www.open-telecom.co.uk/cms/ee-and-three-4g-spectrum-sharing-talks-collapse/) to sell Three some of the 1800MHz spectrum which will become active in Sept. So Three still have 2 of the 3 bands no matter how you slice it. Plus OFCOM has allowed all carriers to repurpose existing spectrums for 4G although that will have no bearing in the short term.

daijholt
Aug 14, 2013, 12:26 PM
I remember when EE rolled out people complained that 8GB wasn't enough data and now O2 won't even be offering more than 5GB after October?

EE's tarrif run circles around voda and O2 at present, since for 51 EE give 20Gb, at least until the end of September. Plus, they've already spread 4g quite far into several rural areas.

I can't see anyone else catching up to them anytime soon, and I'm not convinced that Three will offer truly unlimited 4G either, especially after seeing these tariffs. I'm sticking with "I'll believe it when I see it" until they let the cat outta the bag.

bbfc
Aug 14, 2013, 12:50 PM
Yes, but only on the EE network and not on the frequencies that O2 and Vodafone will be using.

Personally I'm waiting for '3' to release their 4G/LTE plans: they're typically far better for price and provide genuinely unlimited data tariffs unlike the other providers.

Seems like 3's plans are going to be the same (if not similar) to what they offer now. They've said that customers will be upgraded to 4G at no extra cost and I presume they'll keep their all-you-can-eat data tariffs, which is the best thing about them.

CelestialToys
Aug 14, 2013, 12:52 PM
id be over the moon to get these prices. im paying just under 30 pounds for 500 min/text/data


I assume you're not in the UK? Those prices are horrific for here. I pay less than 20 for totally unlimited data, 5000 mins, 5000 texts...and get speeds comparable to O2s LTE on 3G

Coolman717
Aug 14, 2013, 01:35 PM
In addition what some US carriers called 4G is called 3G in the UK - for example HSDPA and HSPA+.

I'm on Three, using a 4s.
Three has an extensive HSPA+ network. I'm sure the vast majority of people in the UK don't realise HSPA+ exists. Oooo my 3G is fast lol.
Untill 4G masts become more widespread it's expensive for select main city coverage only and mainly for people with more money than sense. IMO

0x0x0x0
Aug 14, 2013, 02:06 PM
Personally I'm waiting for '3' to release their 4G/LTE plans: they're typically far better for price and provide genuinely unlimited data tariffs unlike the other providers.

I'm guessing they're gonna have to rename themselves to '4' now? :D

Megadust
Aug 14, 2013, 03:08 PM
I tried out EE for a month. The 4G was amazing. 50MB download and 50MB upload speeds on my iPhone 5. Unfortunately it ate my 6GB data up in about 2 weeks! So I cancelled my 33 per month contract.

I opted for 3 on their 3G. The ultra fast network is not too bad in my area. I get 10-20MB downloads and 3MB uploads on an unlimited plan for 13 a month. I am quite happy to stick with 3 until they go 4G and see if they uphold their promise of unlimited 4G at no extra cost.

I have a feeling EE, O2, Vodafone will shoot themselves in the foot with 4G and the winner will be 3 who will gain a lot more new customers.

matjamca
Aug 14, 2013, 04:02 PM
I have 11GB (3GB standard plus a FREE 8GB addon) on my EE Plan for 46 per month. Unlimited mins & texts too.

Just been to watch Kick Ass 2 & took advantage of EE Wednesday and got 2 tickets for the price of one.

Not bad. Their 4GEE speeds are excellent & their coverage is growing by the day. Best decision I've made this year.

Plus, this data allowance includes tethering at no extra cost.



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I tried out EE for a month. The 4G was amazing. 50MB download and 50MB upload speeds on my iPhone 5. Unfortunately it ate my 6GB data up in about 2 weeks! So I cancelled my 33 per month contract.

I opted for 3 on their 3G. The ultra fast network is not too bad in my area. I get 10-20MB downloads and 3MB uploads on an unlimited plan for 13 a month. I am quite happy to stick with 3 until they go 4G and see if they uphold their promise of unlimited 4G at no extra cost.

I have a feeling EE, O2, Vodafone will shoot themselves in the foot with 4G and the winner will be 3 who will gain a lot more new customers.

There is a reason EE, Vodafone & O2 are not offering unlimited data & it's because it can have a detrimental impact on network performance. Three won't have a lot of capacity because they fared worse in the 4G Auction. We'll see.

numlock
Aug 14, 2013, 04:37 PM
I assume you're not in the UK? Those prices are horrific for here. I pay less than 20 for totally unlimited data, 5000 mins, 5000 texts...and get speeds comparable to O2s LTE on 3G

a bit to the west.

even more envious now.

we dont have unlimited data but 5000 of min/text/data would cost around 60 pounds

noshjewman
Aug 14, 2013, 07:25 PM
I just looked at the O2 handset prices, and I don't understand the economics. It seems that if you pay for the handset up front, it costs you 600. If you pay for it over the 2 years of your contact, you only pay 480.

You can't get out of your airtime contact (I'm not even sure if death exempts you!) So why on earth are you penalized for giving them more money up front?

On a completely different subject, also involving my lack of understanding - why is it taking so long for any network to offer 4G in Cambridge? It's pretty close to London, it's commuter land, it's as big as other 2nd or 3rd tier towns EE has gone to, and it's probably the country's tech /mobile centre (ARM+ inventors of Bluetooth+Microsoft Research+ more)
Strange choices...

coldsweat
Aug 15, 2013, 02:31 AM
Never mind 4G, I just wish I could get a basic signal in my village!

tann
Aug 15, 2013, 06:46 AM
Good to see at least there prices are the same as EE.

At the point I'd pick EE due to the much larger (and from my experience in the Midlands) much better more robust 3G network.

I personally think for a sim only they need to start at 21 with 1gb of data. 26 for a sim only seems far too much.