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MacBytes
Nov 19, 2005, 12:08 PM
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nuckinfutz
Nov 19, 2005, 12:25 PM
I agree. Groupware is the heart of a business and without a credible solution Apple's Xserve is nothing more than an secondary server.

I'd love to see them develop something unique and powerful before they're stuck simply being the "Media" company.

kirk5
Nov 19, 2005, 04:29 PM
Exchange is the standard in most big enterprises, for better or worse. It has a huge installed base and is a cash cow for Microsoft.

The other player in the enterprise is IBM with Lotus Notes/Domino -- I haven't used in years. But it is the only other serious horse in the race.

Instead of building an Apple groupware product to enter the fray, Apple should work with IBM to port Notes over to provide a platform agnostic [which Notes is] solution for Apple's groupware needs. And this solution would have to get along with Exchange servers in the same enterprise.

In addition to not having to build iCal and Mail.app into enterprise-level messaging clients with a fancy pants back end, anything Apple would come out with is a have a version 1.0 on it, which is toxic for entering a data center. Partnering with IBM would at least give it a track record on other platforms.

varmit
Nov 19, 2005, 04:33 PM
There is groupware for the Mac. CommuniGate: http://www.stalker.com/content/default.html

mkrishnan
Nov 19, 2005, 04:35 PM
I don't know the numbers, but Novell Groupwise seems to be making a sort of comeback. At least, I've heard more about it recently than I used to. And it's a pain in the butt... it never seems to implement standards in a normal way. :(

As a result, things work slightly oddly on my iBook / OS X and on my Axim / WM5 as well. :(

iMeowbot
Nov 19, 2005, 07:29 PM
Poor old FirstClass still gets no respect :(

Photorun
Nov 20, 2005, 09:56 AM
If only there was a way to entice any of the big groupware products into an OS X port then maybe we'd be onto something. Apple needs to remember to woo the enterprise peeps, it's a segment they all too often neglect, even more than gaming, and that's really saying something.

And before someone brings it up, FileMaker Server doesn't really count.