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MacRumors
Aug 21, 2013, 11:49 AM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/08/iphone3gs.pngAT&T retail stores will be offering refurbished iPhone 3GS models to its prepaid GoPhone customers -- no-contract accounts that do not qualify for subsidized phones -- according to a MacRumors tipster.

The iPhone 3GS was originally released in 2009 and, notably, will not run the new iOS 7 when it's released this fall. For comparison, AT&T sells the refurbished iPhone 4 (http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/apple/iphone/4-8gb-black-refurb.html) for $325, so the 3GS would presumably be offered for well under $300.

The tipster claims the phone will not be displayed or promoted publicly, but sales reps will be able to offer them to certain price-sensitive customers. Not all AT&T stores will have them but it is claimed that AT&T's larger and more metropolitan locations should have decent amounts of stock.

Apple discontinued the iPhone 3GS in September of last year when the iPhone 5 was introduced. The lack of support for Apple's latest iOS operating system is a concern, but the extremely price-conscious customers that would consider the 3GS could overlook that issue.

Article Link: AT&T to Quietly Offer Refurbished iPhone 3GS Models to GoPhone Customers (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/21/att-to-quietly-offer-refurbished-iphone-3gs-models-to-gophone-customers/)



Goftrey
Aug 21, 2013, 11:52 AM
Queue 12 pages of 'cheap plastic' bilge.

ArtOfWarfare
Aug 21, 2013, 11:57 AM
I have two - one has a shattered screen (though is completely usable) while the other has a fine layer of dust from not having been used in a few months, but I had been using it to test iOS apps. Going forward I'm doing iOS 7+ only, though, so I guess I don't need my 3GS anymore... Maybe I'll sell it now... Or maybe if I keep it for 10-20 years it'll be a collectible.

bchery21
Aug 21, 2013, 12:02 PM
I still have mine! I might have to bring it back to life just to see what it can still do.

ratigator
Aug 21, 2013, 12:03 PM
If you're that price-conscious, maybe a smart phone isn't for you.

Mad Mac Maniac
Aug 21, 2013, 12:06 PM
Hmmm.... well if AT&T is aware of the iPhone 5C price point, I think this indicates the 5C will be more like $400+ rather than more like $300.

It doesn't really make sense to have a 4 year old iphone selling for... say $279 while having a brand new iPhone with signifcantly improved specs for like $300-$350. Just my opinion.

heutusops
Aug 21, 2013, 12:08 PM
they should offer the iphone 5C instead of this - i mean, what's the difference:rolleyes:

ValSalva
Aug 21, 2013, 12:13 PM
Hmmm.... well if AT&T is aware of the iPhone 5C price point, I think this indicates the 5C will be more like $400+ rather than more like $300.

It doesn't really make sense to have a 4 year old iphone selling for... say $279 while having a brand new iPhone with signifcantly improved specs for like $300-$350. Just my opinion.

True. Unless the 3GS is going to be much closer to the $200 mark. It's like a nostalgia purchase :p

SockRolid
Aug 21, 2013, 12:16 PM
The lack of support for Apple's latest iOS operating system is a concern...

That's OK as long as its version of iOS has iCloud connectivity.
I'm sure Apple wants to build their iCloud user base as fast as possible.
iCloud is the key to Apple's next decade, the way iTunes was in the last decade.

peglegjack
Aug 21, 2013, 12:18 PM
H20 sells 3GS phones for under $200

https://www.h2owirelessnow.com/pageControl.php?page=bundleDetail&p_code=BUN004

just the phone is $170

Gasu E.
Aug 21, 2013, 12:20 PM
Still too expensive to throw out every day before the cops can put a trace on the number. PASS.

GenesisST
Aug 21, 2013, 12:23 PM
If you're that price-conscious, maybe a smart phone isn't for you.

Maybe as a pay-as-you-go without a data plan (can always use WIFI). But then again, might be better to get it second hand... I might give mine to my son in 8 years... :D

macsrcool1234
Aug 21, 2013, 12:37 PM
The pre-retina devices just need to die and go away already.

shiseiryu1
Aug 21, 2013, 12:38 PM
I hate to say it but the 3GS was one of the most comfortable phones to hold in your hand. The new iPhones are too angular and smooth. They fit awkward in my hand and slip out easily (when not in a case). Kinda miss the 3GS form factor and actually think the cheap iPhone5C will be better to hold than the fancy coming Gold iPhone.

Hastings101
Aug 21, 2013, 12:38 PM
honestly.. for someone that just wants a very cheap smartphone that isn't laggy with a web browser and decent app support it's a good deal. Most developers won't ditch iOS >7 for a pretty long time.

skellener
Aug 21, 2013, 12:44 PM
I still have my 3GS. Can't wait for the 5S and to ditch ATT.

The 3GS is way past it's prime and isn't going to be supported with iOS7. I wouldn't recommend the 3GS to anyone unless they simply want a phone and iPod in the same device. Anymore than that and they should go with the 4,4S, 5 or 5C.

JayCee842
Aug 21, 2013, 12:45 PM
If you're that price-conscious, maybe a smart phone isn't for you.

Yup, I have to agree. I bought an iPhone thinking the costs would be justified by how I use it, but I was mistaken. Within the first month I was mainly using it for Twitter, FB, apps etc. It was more of a distraction if anything and I figured I was paying too much so I sold it and bought a regular, brick phone which is more than enough for me. :)

inlinevolvo
Aug 21, 2013, 12:51 PM
The 3Gs hasn't met the dodo yet?

newdeal
Aug 21, 2013, 12:52 PM
there are way better android phones for way cheaper. Can't see any reason to buy this at this point when you could get a dual core android phone for under $200 brand new

mw360
Aug 21, 2013, 01:04 PM
If you're that price-conscious, maybe a smart phone isn't for you.

Why not? Only rich kids use the internet?

Jessica Lares
Aug 21, 2013, 01:08 PM
The GoPhone selections are just so stupid at AT&T. So I'm glad they're offering the 3GS. It's about time really. It's annoying that if I break my on-contract phone, I'm pretty much screwed. The only smartphones they have right now are the Huawei Fusion 2, and the Nokia Lumia 520.

I have the Fusion. It's the most stupid phone out of the box. It is literally a piece of crap. It takes a few seconds for a call to go through, and you get a spinning wheel of death between just about everything you open on it.

After rooting it and installing CyanogenMod 10.1, it is the best Android device I've EVER had. But it has no personality otherwise, besides the squeaking.

It's not that I wouldn't go for a Lumia, but replacing an Android with a Windows Phone is a dumb move, especially when your contract is almost up and you're about to move back to iOS. I have a good chunk invested into Android, and just to throw it out like that and spend A LOT more in alternatives, was not the solution I was looking for.

gkarris
Aug 21, 2013, 01:26 PM
Got a 16 Gig 3GS from a member here a couple years back, CIB and in great shape - still using it, but not in great shape anymore (cracks at the connector). My original iPhone still perfect because of the better build.

Need at least a 4S as newer versions of Aviation Apps require a more powerful device.

I can't imagine paying more than $125 for a refurbished officially unlocked 8Gig 3GS....

macnisse
Aug 21, 2013, 01:32 PM
I have been rockin my 3gs for a long time and have had to resuscitate it twice already (battery, dock port). The first 2.5 yrs it was extremely stable. Approaching its 4th year it is now up for another last life saving surgery (dock port again, those connectors seem to be weak links in heavy duty use). After that, should it break again, the nxt stop will be iPhone heaven, .

monkeybagel
Aug 21, 2013, 01:34 PM
Wow- the Windows XP phone- the phone that won't die!

It really attests to their quality if they are still very useful after it is that old!

paulsdenton
Aug 21, 2013, 01:43 PM
Mine's been sitting in my desk for a few years. Noticed recently that the plastic back has a few cracks and the glass on the front is starting to delaminate in one corner. Was a good phone in it's day.

I wonder if there's someplace I could actually get my unit fixed? I don't want to get an exchange unit. I'd use it as an iPod.

arkmannj
Aug 21, 2013, 01:59 PM
So,
My soon to be wife has her contract (with another carrier) coming up this month. and we were thinking of moving her to my plan (with ATT) but with the iPhone 5s/5c/6 so close to being released (at least in theory) we didn't want to get her a new phone on contract yet. Would it be worth it to pull out my old iPhone 3Gs and attach a GoPhone plan to it until the new phones are released?

thoughts?

Also, the prices of the GoPhone plans seem almost as good if not better than my 2 year contract rates am I missing something?

Westside guy
Aug 21, 2013, 02:42 PM
The 3GS is a good little phone - I was using one until recently (it replaced a lower-end Android phone). Really the only drawback was that the camera wasn't great... but it was at least adequate, and was still better than my Android phone's camera.

mono1980
Aug 21, 2013, 03:07 PM
It's still way better than a dumb phone.

Diode
Aug 21, 2013, 03:30 PM
If you're that price-conscious, maybe a smart phone isn't for you.

Price conscious and financial well being are not the same. For instance I could easily afford a BMW but choose to drive a Hyundai that's long been paid off.

Sirious
Aug 21, 2013, 03:47 PM
iPhone 3GS? What's that? :P

jmh600cbr
Aug 21, 2013, 03:49 PM
I'd be surprised if Apple accepts this in a US market. I say this because they are clearly moving towards a unified lightning cable. It unlikely they want to continue distributing 16 pin cables.

pnoyblazed
Aug 21, 2013, 04:05 PM
the one that started it all for me

sjwr
Aug 21, 2013, 04:05 PM
"Quietly" so that other customers don't intervene like on an episode of abc's "what would you do"

TheRainKing
Aug 21, 2013, 04:06 PM
I hate to say it but the 3GS was one of the most comfortable phones to hold in your hand. The new iPhones are too angular and smooth. They fit awkward in my hand and slip out easily (when not in a case). Kinda miss the 3GS form factor and actually think the cheap iPhone5C will be better to hold than the fancy coming Gold iPhone.

This.

3G and 3GS felt great to hold.

They need to explore curved designs again.

AppleMark
Aug 21, 2013, 04:13 PM
Really?

Selling on a 'refurb' phone that is not really supported by Apple or dev's? Who would want that, surely customers in that budget would be better looking at a reasonable android alternative?

I still have my 3GS and it is an ok back-up phone and is a part time TomTom sat nav. Not good for much else if you want the latest features all current phones support.

Karma*Police
Aug 21, 2013, 04:17 PM
there are way better android phones for way cheaper. Can't see any reason to buy this at this point when you could get a dual core android phone for under $200 brand new

The problem is, it's still Android. Specs aren't everything. I have a quad core HTC that feels less responsive than the 3GS for some things and there is a steeper learning curve.

donutbagel
Aug 21, 2013, 04:28 PM
If you're that price-conscious, maybe a smart phone isn't for you.

If your that price-conscious, maybe an iPhone 3GS is for you.

Plutonius
Aug 21, 2013, 05:31 PM
Hmmm.... well if AT&T is aware of the iPhone 5C price point, I think this indicates the 5C will be more like $400+ rather than more like $300.

It doesn't really make sense to have a 4 year old iphone selling for... say $279 while having a brand new iPhone with signifcantly improved specs for like $300-$350. Just my opinion.

You are making the assumption that it will be sold in the US. It may be but the the reason Apple is making the 5C is for emerging markets.

bedifferent
Aug 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
Queue 12 pages of 'cheap plastic' bilge.

E-waste wise, rightfully so.

Plutonius
Aug 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
they should offer the iphone 5C instead of this - i mean, what's the difference:rolleyes:

Nobody knows for sure what's in the 5C or 5S until they are announced (probably September) so how do you know how it will compare to the 3GS ?.

Jessica Lares
Aug 21, 2013, 05:47 PM
I'd be surprised if Apple accepts this in a US market. I say this because they are clearly moving towards a unified lightning cable. It unlikely they want to continue distributing 16 pin cables.

Apple will sell 16 pin cables for another 10 years. There's millions of them still in use with iPods and older iPhones and iPads.

Really?

Selling on a 'refurb' phone that is not really supported by Apple or dev's? Who would want that, surely customers in that budget would be better looking at a reasonable android alternative?

I still have my 3GS and it is an ok back-up phone and is a part time TomTom sat nav. Not good for much else if you want the latest features all current phones support.

AT&T is not trying to get you a good deal. They're just trying to get smartphones into the hands of people who aren't willing to sign contracts, but might in the future. Yes, it's not the most current phone, but it fits in line with the rest of their other current GoPhone budget offerings.

foreverorange
Aug 21, 2013, 07:58 PM
What's the price? it makes no sense if this is higher than $120.

cdmoore74
Aug 21, 2013, 07:59 PM
With Apple telling developers to make their apps iOS 7 compatible and with the iPhone 3GS not receiving iOS 7 this is a major issue. Apple needs to do something about this.

jonnysods
Aug 21, 2013, 08:05 PM
What a horrible thing to do.

RedCroissant
Aug 21, 2013, 08:17 PM
I can't believe that people here seem to think that simply because hardware and software are no longer supported and updatable that a device is therefore almost useless. If that were the case then many android phones are useless from the moment they are purchased.

The 3GS has a few advantages that still make owning one a good idea.

1. The iOS environment is still there and there are tons of apps that still run on the 3GS since it can support iOS 6(not fully, but enough).

2. If you're a price-conscious person that can do just fine with older hardware(like PPC Macs which I own) then the iPhone 3GS is the last iPhone that the platform can sync with.

3. The fact that it will be offered as a go-phone makes it even better for people that rely on WiFi primarily and use apps like Viber to connect with people. I was able to talk with my wife in Germany without incurring extra fees.

4. They still work wonderfully well.

5. The glass is much easier to replace on the 3GS than the iPhone 4+ because a cracked screen on a 4S would require a device replacement as opposed to simply getting a new screen(that took less than 30 minutes at an Apple store).

6. It's compatible with almost all the docks out there now(including the universal dock).

7. Can be used as an iPod and still used as an airplay device with an Apple TV.

If I could afford one now, I would buy one.

macs4nw
Aug 21, 2013, 09:04 PM
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The iPhone 3GS was originally released in 2009 and, notably, will not run the new iOS 7 when it's released this fall. For comparison, AT&T sells the refurbished iPhone 4 (http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/apple/iphone/4-8gb-black-refurb.html) for $325, so the 3GS would presumably be offered for well under $300.

Apple discontinued the iPhone 3GS in September of last year when the iPhone 5 was introduced. The lack of support for Apple's latest iOS operating system is a concern, but the extremely price-conscious customers that would consider the 3GS could overlook that issue.

Article Link: AT&T to Quietly Offer Refurbished iPhone 3GS Models to GoPhone Customers (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/21/att-to-quietly-offer-refurbished-iphone-3gs-models-to-gophone-customers/)

How many of these trade-ins do they still have floating around? It was a great phone, in it's time, but it's over four years old. Unless refurbished means a new shell, plus a new battery and warranty, and goes for $300 max, there's no point in getting one, unless you were indeed "extremely price-conscious".

For presumably an extra $100, or $150 tops, you might be able to get a spiffy, brand-spankin' new 5C soon.

a0me
Aug 21, 2013, 09:59 PM
Price conscious and financial well being are not the same. For instance I could easily afford a BMW but choose to drive a Hyundai that's long been paid off.
Shhh... You're making too much sense!

RedCroissant
Aug 21, 2013, 10:21 PM
Price conscious and financial well being are not the same. For instance I could easily afford a BMW but choose to drive a Hyundai that's long been paid off.

I think what people are also not thinking about is not only those that are being "price-conscious" but the fact that many people are being value-conscious as well. The 3GS is a great value as a go phone and even as a primary phone(which is how my wife is using her 3GS that was originally mine).

jmh600cbr
Aug 21, 2013, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=Jessica Lares;17769402]Apple will sell 16 pin cables for another 10 years. There's millions of them still in use with iPods and older iPhones and iPads.


There is a difference between selling the cord and selling devices that require the cord.

donnaw
Aug 22, 2013, 01:21 AM
How many of these trade-ins do they still have floating around? It was a great phone, in it's time, but it's over four years old. Unless refurbished means a new shell, plus a new battery and warranty, and goes for $300 max, there's no point in getting one, unless you were indeed "extremely price-conscious".

For presumably an extra $100, or $150 tops, you might be able to get a spiffy, brand-spankin' new 5C soon.

There are other considerations. For instance, my husband works overseas. He is on a 10-3 rotation ( i.e., he works 10 weeks and then comes home for 3 weeks). We recently took him off our family plan. Why would I pay for a new contract and phone when he won't use it for most of the year. So I put him on a Go-Phone account. He actually uses an 8-year old Motorola flip phone and I add $25/30 days when he comes home.

The point being there is no contract. Even with minimal data (250mb) it's only $35/month. The term 'price consious' doesn't mean one can't afford it, just that they choose not to. There are actually a lot of folks who don't use much data and just want a nice phone but need a smart phone for the calendar, etc.

Do the math over a two year period.

garylapointe
Aug 22, 2013, 02:36 AM
So,
My soon to be wife has her contract (with another carrier) coming up this month. and we were thinking of moving her to my plan (with ATT) but with the iPhone 5s/5c/6 so close to being released (at least in theory) we didn't want to get her a new phone on contract yet. Would it be worth it to pull out my old iPhone 3Gs and attach a GoPhone plan to it until the new phones are released?

thoughts?

Just put her on your plan with the 3GS. No contract necessary.

Take the time to get her on the plan now, number ported and all that so you don't need to worry later. At the time of the new phone release you don't want to be messing with porting over if you don't have to...

My 2 cents,
Gary

toddzrx
Aug 22, 2013, 02:44 AM
I'm typing this post in bed......on my 3GS. I get the hand-me-down from my wife, and this has been my first smart phone. Other than being a bit slow over 3G, it is still quite useful. I rarely if ever find myself needing or wanting the capabilities in my wife's 4S (which I'll inherit when we get her the upcoming 5S). To those who deride it as old and/or pass, I say: bollocks!

mdelvecchio
Aug 22, 2013, 11:12 AM
Still too expensive to throw out every day before the cops can put a trace on the number. PASS.

youre describing a cheap, burner, feature phone.

charlituna
Aug 22, 2013, 12:15 PM
That's OK as long as its version of iOS has iCloud connectivity.


It probably doesn't and ATT won't care. User data concerns aren't their issue. They will just send folks to Apple to tell them they are screwed cause they weren't backing up.

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I'd be surprised if Apple accepts this in a US market. I say this because they are clearly moving towards a unified lightning cable. It unlikely they want to continue distributing 16 pin cables.

As I recall in the US they are required to provide support, even at user cost, for all products for 5 years, more in some states. So it will be a while before they can ditch the 30 pin.

That said, they are gently nudging folks not to pay almost $200 for an out of warranty swap on things like the 3GS so most of the time it won't be a major issue. Folks will upgrade and be done with it. And if they really are making some kind of cheaper 5c option they could move folks even more out of that old tech.

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Really?

Selling on a 'refurb' phone that is not really supported by Apple or dev's? Who would want that, surely customers in that budget would be better looking at a reasonable android alternative?



You might be surprised how many folks like the whole Apple system but don't feel the need for the latest tech all the time.

That's why I think Apple should make a less featured phone. It could be great for kids, grandparents, those of us with iPads. They could just include the phone, messaging, music, camera, 'organizer' apps. iCloud for syncing and backing up. By no App Store etc. It might be just 8GB since no one would be loading tons of games or video on it.

SockRolid
Aug 22, 2013, 12:56 PM
re: AT&T's iPhone 3GS connecting to iCloud.

It probably doesn't and ATT won't care. User data concerns aren't their issue. They will just send folks to Apple to tell them they are screwed cause they weren't backing up.

As long as it runs iOS 5 or later, any iPhone will be iCloud-enabled.
I meant "OK from Apple's perspective," not "OK from AT&T's perspective."

davidg4781
Aug 22, 2013, 01:44 PM
So,
My soon to be wife has her contract (with another carrier) coming up this month. and we were thinking of moving her to my plan (with ATT) but with the iPhone 5s/5c/6 so close to being released (at least in theory) we didn't want to get her a new phone on contract yet. Would it be worth it to pull out my old iPhone 3Gs and attach a GoPhone plan to it until the new phones are released?

thoughts?

Also, the prices of the GoPhone plans seem almost as good if not better than my 2 year contract rates am I missing something?

You can put her on your plan now and use an older phone. That's what I'm planning to do (Switching from Sprint to AT&T). When the new iPhone launches I can use my upgrade then.

You are making the assumption that it will be sold in the US. It may be but the the reason Apple is making the 5C is for emerging markets.

You are making the assumption that it is being made for emerging markets. I'm sure it may be sold there but I have a feeling it's to help unify all price points to the new screen size, retina display, and Lightening.

I also have a bit of a suspicion that these may be used to get older devices switched to newer ones at a very inexpensive price.

heutusops
Aug 22, 2013, 01:45 PM
Nobody knows for sure what's in the 5C or 5S until they are announced (probably September) so how do you know how it will compare to the 3GS ?.

the keynote is nothing but a confirmation event, we already know most of the things about the iphone 5s and 5c, the even will just confirm the leaks and rumors.

Plutonius
Aug 22, 2013, 02:13 PM
the keynote is nothing but a confirmation event, we already know most of the things about the iphone 5s and 5c, the even will just confirm the leaks and rumors.

they should offer the iphone 5C instead of this - i mean, what's the difference:rolleyes:

So is the 5c similar to a 3GS as you stated earlier ?

heutusops
Aug 23, 2013, 10:37 AM
So is the 5c similar to a 3GS as you stated earlier ?

in terms of material - YES!
but yeah it has a newer software - iOS7, and......that's all (no siri no fingerprint scanner and still going for $555)

Plutonius
Aug 23, 2013, 02:10 PM
in terms of material - YES!
but yeah it has a newer software - iOS7, and......that's all (no siri no fingerprint scanner and still going for $555)

So it has the same processor, RAM, display, it uses the same cell technology (only 3G connectivity), etc as the iPhone 3GS ?

and here I thought it was similar to the iPhone 5 but with a plastic shell.

davidg4781
Aug 24, 2013, 12:25 AM
in terms of material - YES!
but yeah it has a newer software - iOS7, and......that's all (no siri no fingerprint scanner and still going for $555)

Do you have the lottery numbers for Saturday too??

heutusops
Aug 24, 2013, 08:13 AM
Do you have the lottery numbers for Saturday too??

yeah, it 09Y24O53U98W67I03L94L85N71E30V94E85R71W98I23N475698345098 :rolleyes:
you wanna play with me? really?:rolleyes:

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So it has the same processor, RAM, display, it uses the same cell technology (only 3G connectivity), etc as the iPhone 3GS ?

and here I thought it was similar to the iPhone 5 but with a plastic shell.

5C vs the iphone 5
underclocked processor
same (if not less) RAM
probably not the retina
dont expect LTE on a mid-ranger

overall, it's a 3GS with a new name and a tweaked design.

im_to_hyper
Sep 22, 2013, 01:15 PM
Apple needs to have an iOS 7.1 release that covers their older devices and is more optimized for 256MB RAM.

Apple likes to talk about fragmentation being their biggest advantage over Android -- yet look at this. You can buy a device TODAY yet, that is already outdated and won't get the latest operating system.

There is no excuse. Get rid of the transparency and fancy motions... make it a simple, basic UI that looks the same and can run the latest apps.

Doesn't take too much to do. In the case of these devices it would be about the UI and the app toolkits, rather than all the bells, whistles and features.

Michael Goff
Sep 22, 2013, 01:22 PM
yeah, it 09Y24O53U98W67I03L94L85N71E30V94E85R71W98I23N475698345098 :rolleyes:
you wanna play with me? really?:rolleyes:

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5C vs the iphone 5
underclocked processor
same (if not less) RAM
probably not the retina
dont expect LTE on a mid-ranger

overall, it's a 3GS with a new name and a tweaked design.

I just quoted this because of how wrong it was.

davidg4781
Sep 23, 2013, 08:56 PM
I just quoted this because of how wrong it was.

Thanks! I've been meaning to do that but working 80hr work weeks keeps me off MR.

Michael Goff
Sep 24, 2013, 08:39 AM
Thanks! I've been meaning to do that but working 80hr work weeks keeps me off MR.

Ouch, 80hr weeks sounds terrible.

sfphoto
Dec 9, 2013, 01:15 PM
Anyone here ever find one? I contacted stores in my area and they had none nor had even heard of such offer.