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MacRumors
Aug 27, 2013, 08:33 AM
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Google has released its official Chromecast (http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromecast/#netflix) app for iOS today, allowing Apple mobile devices to officially control the HDMI accessory. The app allows for functionality such as managing Chromecast settings for changing the name, password, and settings of the device, as well as allowing setup of the Chromecast through an iOS device. The app also allows users to stream content from iOS apps, including YouTube and Netflix.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/08/chromecast.jpgChromecast is the easiest way to enjoy online video and anything from the web on your TV. Plug it into any HDTV and control it with your existing smartphone, tablet, or laptop. No remotes required. Cast your favorites from YouTube, Netflix, Google Play Movies and Google Play Music and Chrome to your TV with the press of a button. Originally announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/24/google-takes-aim-at-apple-with-new-nexus-7-google-play-games-and-chromecast/) and released in July, Chromecast allows for functionality similar to AirPlay and Apple TV, allowing users to mirror content from a tablet, smartphone, or computer. Following the launch of Chromecast, Apple lowered (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/31/apple-drops-the-price-on-refurbished-apple-tv-to-75/) the price of its refurbished Apple TVs to $74, offering a $24 discount off of its intended $99 price. Additionally, a comparison chart (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/26/comparison-chart-of-chromecast-apple-tv-and-roku-content-options/) between Chromecast, Apple TV, and media device Roku surfaced to examine the differences between all devices.

Google's Chromecast app can be downloaded from the App Store for free. [Direct Link (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chromecast/id680819774?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4)]

Article Link: Google Releases Chromecast App for iOS (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/27/google-releases-chromecast-app-for-ios/)



musika
Aug 27, 2013, 08:35 AM
Just in time!

Google blocks Chromecast app that let you stream your own videos (http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/25/4657202/google-blocks-chromecast-app-that-let-you-stream-own-videos)

EDIT: I just read the update at the bottom of the article, and it doesn't seem that Google is interested in limiting the types of content you can use with the Chromecast.

Skika
Aug 27, 2013, 08:40 AM
They should have incorporated AirPlay.

superwoman
Aug 27, 2013, 08:42 AM
...Chromecast allows for functionality similar to AirPlay and Apple TV, allowing users to mirror content from a tablet, smartphone, or computer.


This statement is false. That's not how Chromecast works at all.

Nbapapa
Aug 27, 2013, 08:48 AM
If only they incorporated Airplay - that would really end Apple TV. Nevertheless, still a highly valuable and cheap item!

The Phazer
Aug 27, 2013, 08:49 AM
Just in time!

Google blocks Chromecast app that let you stream your own videos (http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/25/4657202/google-blocks-chromecast-app-that-let-you-stream-own-videos)

Not read the update at the bottom of the article, huh?

ssspinball
Aug 27, 2013, 08:52 AM
Not read the update at the bottom of the article, huh?

I read the update--And the fact remains Google intentionally blocked the local content workaround at the moment.

The Phazer
Aug 27, 2013, 09:02 AM
I read the update--And the fact remains Google intentionally blocked the local content workaround at the moment.

"Intentionally blocked" is a pretty different thing from "was indifferent about breaking something acting against the terms of what is clearly marked as an unfinished SDK."

Anyway, this app - surely this is irrelevant to actually casting to a Chromecast? The app wouldn't be able to affect what YouTube or Netflix did inside their apps.

It's just the settings app, yeah?

Northgrove
Aug 27, 2013, 09:04 AM
Chromecast isn't able to receive streamed data directly from any device, so AirPlay would be hard.

Chromecast is actually running a simplified version of Chrome OS, i.e. a Google Chrome browser on a chip that you give commands to.

For example, to play a YouTube clip, the app actually tells Chromecast to "Visit YouTube and play this clip at this address". No video is sent from your device! That's why it can do Netflix, YouTube, or mirror a Google Chrome tab (it simply visits the page for you), but why AirPlay would be hard and probably also suffer in quality since it'd need to stream AirPlay via some proxy website. It can show anything that Chrome can show easily, but everything else is hard or impossible. It'll probably never be able to mirror an iPad display.

Chromecast has unofficial PC desktop mirroring support, but I assume this one uses some proxy method, so that your desktop (grabbed by the local Google Chrome) is sent somewhere on the web, and Chromecast retrieves it from there. If this method doesn't support audio, that would explain why this experimental feature indeed doesn't mirror audio along with the screen.

musika
Aug 27, 2013, 09:07 AM
Not read the update at the bottom of the article, huh?

Nope, whoops. I read that two days ago and just linked back to it without rereading.

Thanks for letting me know!

JGRE
Aug 27, 2013, 09:09 AM
Chromecast isn't able to receive streamed data directly from any device, so AirPlay would be hard.

Chromecast is actually running a simplified version of Chrome OS, i.e. a Google Chrome browser on a chip that you give commands to.

For example, to play a YouTube clip, the app actually tells Chromecast to "Visit YouTube and play this clip at this address". No video is sent from your device! That's why it can do Netflix, YouTube, or mirror a Google Chrome tab (it simply visits the page for you), but why AirPlay would be hard and probably also suffer in quality since it'd need to stream AirPlay via some proxy website. It can show anything that Chrome can show easily, but everything else is hard or impossible. It'll probably never be able to mirror an iPad display.

Chromecast has unofficial PC desktop mirroring support, but I assume this one uses some proxy method, so that your desktop (grabbed by the local Google Chrome) is sent somewhere on the web, and Chromecast retrieves it from there. If this method doesn't support audio, that would explain why this experimental feature indeed doesn't mirror audio along with the screen.

Just wondering....what can it do, what an ATV can't?

benpatient
Aug 27, 2013, 09:21 AM
I read the update--And the fact remains Google intentionally blocked the local content workaround at the moment.


You don't seem to know what the words "fact" or "intentionally" mean.

If I released an unsupported iOS app that relied on an unlisted testing feature in OS X Mavericks that was removed or rewritten during the developer preview, you wouldn't be dogging Apple for anything, you'd be saying "well, what did they expect? it wasn't even an approved feature, and it wasn't made for that purpose!"

This is the same thing, only the developer reverse-engineered Google's proprietary code to enable the work-around. That's not a reliable solution for anything. It's possible that all they had to do to "break" his code is to recompile the source a slightly different way, or standardize the name on a couple of functions, or merge a couple of code libraries that were redundant.

We have no idea, but it is transitional, early code, and they said as much right from the start. Google isn't known for malicious coding. It isn't worth the investment of developer time, and it isn't worth the potential backlash. This is a company whose major products are all free.

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Chromecast isn't able to receive streamed data directly from any device, so AirPlay would be hard.

Chromecast is actually running a simplified version of Chrome OS, i.e. a Google Chrome browser on a chip that you give commands to.

For example, to play a YouTube clip, the app actually tells Chromecast to "Visit YouTube and play this clip at this address". No video is sent from your device! That's why it can do Netflix, YouTube, or mirror a Google Chrome tab (it simply visits the page for you), but why AirPlay would be hard and probably also suffer in quality since it'd need to stream AirPlay via some proxy website. It can show anything that Chrome can show easily, but everything else is hard or impossible. It'll probably never be able to mirror an iPad display.

Chromecast has unofficial PC desktop mirroring support, but I assume this one uses some proxy method, so that your desktop (grabbed by the local Google Chrome) is sent somewhere on the web, and Chromecast retrieves it from there. If this method doesn't support audio, that would explain why this experimental feature indeed doesn't mirror audio along with the screen.

Not quite right, there. When you cast a Chrome tab, it doesn't go and pull that content from the internet directly via the Chromecast. That wouldn't be possible on things like websites that require authentication. It is casting directly from your local device (laptop, for example), and sending that info (audio and video) to the Chromecast directly.

I can Cast my work email, which won't even let me log in to two browser sessions at once using two different browsers or two windows of the same browser. It's legitimately like "screen sharing", and there is experimental support for screen sharing, as well. That isn't going out to the internet and coming back to the chromecast. It's staying on the local network.

ssspinball
Aug 27, 2013, 09:44 AM
You don't seem to know what the words "fact" or "intentionally" mean.

Google inserted this code with the obvious purpose of blocking this workaround:
if("mirror_tab" != a) {
return null;
}

This code prevents the ability to play media from external sources. Seems pretty clear cut, no?

There's a lot more detail in the ArsTechnica post here (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/chromecast-could-stream-local-files-until-google-killed-the-feature/).

PracticalMac
Aug 27, 2013, 09:46 AM
If Apple made the ATV App to allow Android control/use it, would that make help Apple in ATV sales?
Or will it loose too many iOS sales?

IMHO, ATV is a sales point, like the Kindle Fire. Its value comes from the media it sells, not the device itself.
Apple should sell the ATV for $59, make an Android app to control it, and watch iTunes profits surge!

egoistaxx9
Aug 27, 2013, 10:01 AM
phew!! had been waiting for this...

technopimp
Aug 27, 2013, 10:09 AM
Nice...now how about you release the promised Google Play All Access app?

JimboLodisC
Aug 27, 2013, 10:32 AM
This statement is false. That's not how Chromecast works at all.

Exactly. Also, this app isn't needed to cast. The YouTube and Netflix apps should do it already if you're up to date. The article makes it sound like you need this app in order to cast. The app is simply for connecting to your Chromecast to set it up. Once you're up and running, you can delete the Chromecast app if you'd like.

Exotic-Car Man
Aug 27, 2013, 11:13 AM
For those unsure how Chromecast works. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=TK4u6wm-HIk&hd=1)

charlituna
Aug 27, 2013, 11:15 AM
Just wondering....what can it do, what an ATV can't?

Access the google play movie store. That's it

But that's also why it's cheaper. And for those that don't care about mirroring local content like games, home videos off an iPad etc, that might be fine

Codestud
Aug 27, 2013, 11:19 AM
This statement is false. That's not how Chromecast works at all.

Yes, the Chromecast's main function is to just receive coimmands from a mobile device which tells it what to play. However, AFAIK it does also have mirror-like functionality built in as well, although it is currently rough around the edges and is not as good as AirPlay.

charlituna
Aug 27, 2013, 11:19 AM
Apple should sell the ATV for $59, make an Android app to control it, and watch iTunes profits surge!

I disagree. Keep it at $99 even bump it to say $129, spice up the specs with 802.11 AC, better graphics etc.

As for the Android app, something tells me that many if not most android users are devoted google store users so iTunes profits wouldn't surge so much cause they would still be buying for their own. Making it all moot.

fallenjt
Aug 27, 2013, 01:00 PM
For example, to play a YouTube clip, the app actually tells Chromecast to "Visit YouTube and play this clip at this address". No video is sent from your device! That's why it can do Netflix, YouTube, or mirror a Google Chrome tab (it simply visits the page for you), but why AirPlay would be hard and probably also suffer in quality since it'd need to stream AirPlay via some proxy website. It can show anything that Chrome can show easily, but everything else is hard or impossible. It'll probably never be able to mirror an iPad display.



From what you said, after you stream the movie, you can power off your mobile device and it still casts the program from online content? Doesn't sound like it.

ghostface147
Aug 27, 2013, 01:20 PM
Other than playing with it when I first got it off a contest on androidcentral, it has only been used for a live fantasy football draft. I only would care for it more if I could stream local content.

nostaws
Aug 27, 2013, 01:54 PM
For those unsure how Chromecast works. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=TK4u6wm-HIk&hd=1)

great link, that was a very good review.

Exotic-Car Man
Aug 27, 2013, 03:48 PM
great link, that was a very good review.

Yeah, MKBHD (http://YouTube.com/MKBHD) is awesome. He's a bit of a fandroid (although he uses a Hackintosh as his main computer), but he honestly has some of the best tech reviews and videos on the 'net.

Gjwilly
Aug 27, 2013, 07:33 PM
From what you said, after you stream the movie, you can power off your mobile device and it still casts the program from online content? Doesn't sound like it.

I ws a review where they did indeed power off the device and it continued to cast.

PracticalMac
Aug 28, 2013, 10:57 AM
I disagree. Keep it at $99 even bump it to say $129, spice up the specs with 802.11 AC, better graphics etc.

As for the Android app, something tells me that many if not most android users are devoted google store users so iTunes profits wouldn't surge so much cause they would still be buying for their own. Making it all moot.

iPod sales surged when iTunes came to Windows.

I know its not the same, but fact is:

A lot of people get Androids because they are less expensive then iPhone.
A lot of people don't give a crap what OS the phone uses.
A lot of people simply look at the price.

A $59 ATV will be directly price competitive with Roku and Chromecast, but the library of iTunes will make it an instant sell, and that simply means a lot more iTunes purchases.

Ray Odom
Aug 31, 2013, 10:48 AM
Does the release of new app for ios 5.1.1 mean chromecast will now work on ipad1?