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Aug 28, 2013, 10:29 AM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/08/red_ipod_nano_watch-250x215.pngAccording to analyst Wanli Wang at CIMB Securities, as shared by The Economic Times (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/taiwan-firms-inventec-and-quanta-win-apple-iwatch-orders/articleshow/22114297.cms), Taiwan based electronics manufacturers Inventec and Quanta have won contracts to produce Apple's iWatch. Wang's supply chain sources indicate that Inventec will produce the majority of the iWatch at 60%, while Quanta will handle the remaining portion of production. The report also claims that the iWatch will sell for an average of $199 and projects shipments of 63.4 million units in the year after its launch."Apple is likely to introduce 'iWatch' in 2014. From our channel checks, Inventec is the major assembly source for 'iWatch', with about 60 per cent of order allocation," said CIMB Securities analyst Wanli Wang in a report.

CIMB projects 63.4 million units of "iWatch" shipments in the year after its launch with an average price of around $199, while the "iWatch" project is estimated to contribute 19 per cent of Inventec's earnings in 2014, Wang said.Supply chain sources do on occasion offer accurate information on Apple's plans, but they are also prone to sharing incorrect or incomplete information, so their reliability is difficult to ascertain.

CIMB's pricing and unit shipments also appear to be based more on speculation and modeling than any specific information, suggesting that they should be taken with considerable skepticism.

In the past couple of months, Apple has been reportedly been ramping up its iWatch effort, hiring (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/18/apple-taps-new-hires-in-health-sensors-broad-array-of-internal-experts-for-iwatch-team/) new employees with expertise in health sensors, including (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/18/former-nike-fuelband-consultant-jay-blahnik-confirms-apple-hiring/) fitness expert and Nike product consultant Jay Blahnik. Apple has also been filing (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/01/apples-iwatch-trademarking-spree-also-includes-taiwan-and-mexico/) trademark applications on the iWatch name in a number of countries, and is reportedly (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/14/apple-aggressively-hiring-for-smart-watch-project-looking-toward-late-2014-launch/) looking toward a late 2014 launch for the product as it works to solve numerous technical challenges.

Article Link: Analyst 'Channel Checks' Suggest iWatch Coming in 2014, Pricing Guessed at $199 (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/28/analyst-channel-checks-suggest-iwatch-coming-in-2014-pricing-guessed-at-199/)



lars666
Aug 28, 2013, 10:35 AM
iWatch - you know you don't know yet that you need to have it!

jmh600cbr
Aug 28, 2013, 10:36 AM
It would be great if it came before samsungs. It's really sad that Apple is coming second these days.

lars666
Aug 28, 2013, 10:40 AM
It would be great if it came before samsungs. It's really sad that Apple is coming second these days.

Calm down, everybody else, I'll do the necessary typing work. Here we go: Apple also was second or later with mp3 players, smartphones and tablets ... And you see how this worked out.

mbh
Aug 28, 2013, 10:40 AM
These analysts can't even predict sales of existing products with any accuracy. Now they're predicting sales of products that don't exist yet?

AAPL downgraded to sell today because predicted sales of non-existent products fell short of previous predictions.

Chris Blount
Aug 28, 2013, 10:44 AM
I'm currently using the Pebble and will gladly upgrade to the iWatch. :)

igazza
Aug 28, 2013, 10:55 AM
Will sell like crazy at that price :)

ValSalva
Aug 28, 2013, 10:56 AM
Analyst 'Channel Checks'. Made me think of something...

Can you imagine a cable television channel called "The Analyst Channel"? The place to go for self-interested speculation and wrong information :D

Shaun, UK
Aug 28, 2013, 11:00 AM
Can't wait to see what they do. 2014 looks like it's going to be an exciting year with the iWatch, iPhone 6, 13" iPad, possible iTV, etc.

jmh600cbr
Aug 28, 2013, 11:05 AM
Calm down, everybody else, I'll do the necessary typing work. Here we go: Apple also was second or later with mp3 players, smartphones and tablets ... And you see how this worked out.

They were second with smartphone and maybe a poorly made tablet had come out but they were the first to properly to develop a touch screen device capable of being a baseline for a other products. Here's the issue: everyone else has caught up, samsung and google are a great team and they can actually blow Apple away. The trick in tech is shock factor and if samsungs comes first and is "virtually" the same as iwatch the shock is gone.

absurdamerica
Aug 28, 2013, 11:08 AM
It would be great if it came before samsungs. It's really sad that Apple is coming second these days.

Samsung was in the smart phone segment for 6 years before Apple decided to get in the game.

Being first isn't everything.

CBJammin103
Aug 28, 2013, 11:09 AM
Oh, iWatch Rumor. We meet again.

:rolleyes:

Blomkvist
Aug 28, 2013, 11:09 AM
In other breaking news...analyst predict Apple is developing a tv which will be released once it's ready.

iLilana
Aug 28, 2013, 11:13 AM
this is a planted rumour to samsung keep concentrating on copying the wrong tech.

Kilamite
Aug 28, 2013, 11:16 AM
I don't think it will start at $199. Anything more than $99 for entry and it won't sell.

everything-i
Aug 28, 2013, 11:21 AM
Yeh, right. Like the Apple 40" or was it 50" or maybe 45" television which was supposed to be out last year or was it this year. These guys don't have a clue.:rolleyes:

Klosefabrinio
Aug 28, 2013, 11:27 AM
$200 for a watch? are you serious? but, why am i expecting low prices from apple, my mistake:rolleyes:

FelixAng
Aug 28, 2013, 11:28 AM
1st gen Apple products usually do well, but they're often missing important components. My bet is that the 2nd gen iWatch will add a front-facing camera.

It would have to be a beautiful watch to compete with Rolex/Piaget/Omega/Citizen and numerous others. On the other hand, this could be the first major development since wind-up watches went digital, and the general popularion would eat it up. The difference between a Rolex and iWatch is simple: iWatch will lose resale value everyday one owns it; Rolex is an investment purchase.

.Asa
Aug 28, 2013, 11:30 AM
Can't wait to see what they do. 2014 looks like it's going to be an exciting year with the iWatch, iPhone 6, 13" iPad, possible iTV, etc.

The sad thing is, we already know all this.

bbeagle
Aug 28, 2013, 11:35 AM
It would be great if it came before samsungs. It's really sad that Apple is coming second these days.

Samsung's watch will be nothing like Apple's watch. Apple will undoubtedly have a completely different form factor and way to use it than current smartwatches out there. Same as Apple did with the iPod, iPhone and iPad. Those weren't first either, but changed the game.

Why does anyone think Apple is EVER first to market with ANYTHING? They're always trailing behind, but they're FIRST to understand what people actually want.

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$200 for a watch? are you serious? but, why am i expecting low prices from apple, my mistake:rolleyes:

You DO understand that Android smart watches out right now cost more than $200?

$235 for this one, the Z1. It's got to be the worst interface imaginable. Simply take the existing Android OS and make it smaller? That is NOT the way Apple would go, which is why this watch will fail. But, but, it's got all the bells and whistles, right, Android fans?

Z1 2.0 inch Android 2.2 Smart Watch Phone with Bluetooth,GPS,e-book,MP3,MP4,MMS,Camera,Compass

http://www.handgiftbox.com/Z1-2.0-inch-Android-2.2-Smart-Watch-Phone-with-Bluetooth-GPS-e-book-MP3-MP4-MMS-Camera-Compass_p11233.html?gclid=CJ7r5vDIoLkCFQya4AodYQsAOw

pcJmac
Aug 28, 2013, 11:44 AM
While it is true that "the early bird gets the worm", I would like to point out that it is "the 2nd mouse who gets the cheese"...

ClemyNX
Aug 28, 2013, 11:48 AM
they can actually blow Apple away.

What are they waiting for then?

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Z1 2.0 inch Android 2.2 Smart Watch Phone with Bluetooth,GPS,e-book,MP3,MP4,MMS,Camera,Compass

http://www.handgiftbox.com/Z1-2.0-inch-Android-2.2-Smart-Watch-Phone-with-Bluetooth-GPS-e-book-MP3-MP4-MMS-Camera-Compass_p11233.html?gclid=CJ7r5vDIoLkCFQya4AodYQsAOw

That watch looks horrible indeed. Are we sure it's a real thing? I mean, someone actually thought that having an interface with minuscule details would work? I imagine all the people queuing up so that they can finally read A game of Thrones on their android watch! lol

jonnysods
Aug 28, 2013, 11:50 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Apple's unique take on the smart watch.

lars666
Aug 28, 2013, 11:55 AM
They were second with smartphone and maybe a poorly made tablet had come out but they were the first to properly to develop a touch screen device capable of being a baseline for a other products.

You are correct, but you know - there's always this one guy who screams: "APPLE DIDN'T INVENT THE SMARTPHONE, THERE WERE TOUCHSCREENS BEFORE!!!!!!!!1111!!!!ELEVEN!!!!!" ... :)

flashflooder
Aug 28, 2013, 11:59 AM
While it is true that "the early bird gets the worm", I would like to point out that it is "the 2nd mouse who gets the cheese"...

and let's not mention what the early worm gets...

JayJayAbels
Aug 28, 2013, 12:15 PM
The iWatch is going to be a "watch"... in the same sense as how the iPhone is just a "phone".

Fitness, health, location, responsive communication, biometrics, ecosystemic synergy and geo fencing.

It will also tell time.

Shaun, UK
Aug 28, 2013, 12:38 PM
$200 for a watch? are you serious? but, why am i expecting low prices from apple, my mistake:rolleyes:

Have you been a watch shop lately? $200 is not expensive. You can spend a lot more just for the right brand name. The iWatch won't be toy, it will be a serious bit of kit.

RodThePlod
Aug 28, 2013, 12:40 PM
After all this waiting what's the bettings that the invite to the iWatch introduction will simply say It's About Time...

That will really get everyone buzzing :D

Apple marketing, if you use this, I claim my $5 now :rolleyes:

RTP.

lars666
Aug 28, 2013, 12:50 PM
After all this waiting what's the bettings that the invite to the iWatch introduction will simply say It's About Time...

That will really get everyone buzzing :D

Apple marketing, if you use this, I claim my $5 now :rolleyes:

RTP.

"Watch this!" (Just kidding, but I think they also wouldn't use yours as it emphasize too much on the watch as the classic time teller which probably will be the least interesting feature of it ...)

SimonTheSoundMa
Aug 28, 2013, 01:01 PM
Going to be the most useless product I have ever seen.

So what do people predict this product will do?

JayJayAbels
Aug 28, 2013, 01:03 PM
Going to be the most useless product I have ever seen.

So what do people predict this product will do?

You have a very, very tiny imagination my friend.

Laird Knox
Aug 28, 2013, 01:09 PM
The analysts have it wrong (big surprise). The iWatch will be a line of night vision goggles.

CmdrLaForge
Aug 28, 2013, 01:10 PM
Design will be for me the major decision point...

RodThePlod
Aug 28, 2013, 01:11 PM
"Watch this!" (Just kidding, but I think they also wouldn't use yours as it emphasize too much on the watch as the classic time teller which probably will be the least interesting feature of it ...)

Haha true. It'll be interesting to see what Apple pull out of the bag with this one. I wouldn't be surprised if, amongst other things, the iWatch will be used to facilitate the NFC payment system that Apple have been rumoured to be working on for the last few years.

I think it'll be quite natural to pay for small value items by simply picking up your goods from the counter and have your iWatch pass by the NFC terminal. More convenient than taking your phone out and waving that around...

;)

RTP.

Ryth
Aug 28, 2013, 02:24 PM
Calm down, everybody else, I'll do the necessary typing work. Here we go: Apple also was second or later with mp3 players, smartphones and tablets ... And you see how this worked out.

...and phones...remember this quote...?

We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in."

Whatever Samsung puts out...they'll modify to copy whatever Apple puts out.

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Haha true. It'll be interesting to see what Apple pull out of the bag with this one. I wouldn't be surprised if, amongst other things, the iWatch will be used to facilitate the NFC payment system that Apple have been rumoured to be working on for the last few years.

I think it'll be quite natural to pay for small value items by simply picking up your goods from the counter and have your iWatch pass by the NFC terminal. More convenient than taking your phone out and waving that around...

;)

RTP.

Yep that and other things like notifications, siri like communication, health status and other things.

frojive
Aug 28, 2013, 02:52 PM
To me the most exciting thing is the possibility of the sensors. If this could be a smart watch with capabilities of a Body Bug or other health monitors with an open API for apps like MyFitnessPal to pull in calorie burn information!!!!

JamesInLA
Aug 28, 2013, 03:50 PM
$200 for a watch? are you serious? but, why am i expecting low prices from apple, my mistake:rolleyes:

Add a zero and you're at the low end of "expensive" watches.

1st gen Apple products usually do well, but they're often missing important components. My bet is that the 2nd gen iWatch will add a front-facing camera.

Rear-facing camera unexpectedly unpopular....

Chupa Chupa
Aug 28, 2013, 03:57 PM
I don't think it will start at $199. Anything more than $99 for entry and it won't sell.

The Jawbone Up is $129 and Nike Fuelband is $149. Both selling well. The iWatch will mimic the features of these bands plus a lot more so I think it's a bridge too far to suggest it won't sell at $199; it will, just not as many units as if it was $99. But I don't think Apple can make a decent product for $99 given that is the same price of the Fitbit Flex which basically does nothing on the band but show progress dots and lacks the altimeter of the other Fitbit monitors.

The Pebble is $150 and to-date that is the closest comparison to an iWatch's presumed functionality. But it's big and bulky. A sleek design has it's cost too. Engineers and engineering isn't cheap. I think at $149 it's a WOW! price. But even at $199 Apple will get enough early adopters just like it did with the iPhone and iPad to grow the product.

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$200 for a watch? are you serious? but, why am i expecting low prices from apple, my mistake:rolleyes:

No your mistake is expecting Apple to come up with some sort of complicated to use, poorly designed GUI Timex or Casio frankenwatch with price point to match.

micropig
Aug 28, 2013, 04:28 PM
Going to be the most useless product I have ever seen.

So what do people predict this product will do?

You know Microsoft is looking for a new CEO...

Ma1Garv
Aug 28, 2013, 06:58 PM
Another gizmo used to distract people from watching what they are doing and where they are going.

I walk and drive daily through the gauntlet of mindless drones staring down at their device of preference.

borneo76
Aug 28, 2013, 08:07 PM
At least i've got my own iWatch style already :D

http://s11.postimg.org/r8l2417c3/image.jpg


http://s21.postimg.org/9iijlctgn/image.jpg

dazed
Aug 29, 2013, 02:15 AM
Analyst 'Channel Checks'. Made me think of something...

Can you imagine a cable television channel called "The Analyst Channel"? The place to go for self-interested speculation and wrong information :D

I think that channel is called Fox News ;)

ValSalva
Aug 29, 2013, 04:34 AM
I think that channel is called Fox News ;)

:D Yes, I think you are right!

Klosefabrinio
Aug 29, 2013, 08:29 AM
Have you been a watch shop lately? $200 is not expensive. You can spend a lot more just for the right brand name. The iWatch won't be toy, it will be a serious bit of kit.

it will be a serious bit of kit? please tell me more about the iWatch.:rolleyes:

kdarling
Aug 29, 2013, 08:32 AM
You DO understand that Android smart watches out right now cost more than $200?

$235 for this one, the Z1. It's got to be the worst interface imaginable. ....

Bad example. That's an entire smart phone on a wrist, not just a smartwatch. Perhaps it should even be called a "smablet" :)

Actual Android smartwatches include the Sony for about $110..

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and the I'M starting at $299 (hey, it's Italian design and has a unique curved capacitive screen)...

430502

Personally I loved my WIMM One ($199) developer watch, which was more powerful than any of the others, because it included WiFi, so it could update its news readers, weather, etc without needing a phone mothership for comms. I had no problem creating my own test app for it, and it included a watchface SDK. Unfortunately, they were bought up by someone unknown.

430503

I think that the biggest barrier to smartwatch adoption is battery life. People just aren't going to want to charge all the time. Once a day is not uncommon, but even once a week is a pain. They'll either need batteries all around the strap (like Apple patents seem to indicate) or some kind of quick inductive charger.

Klosefabrinio
Aug 29, 2013, 08:35 AM
Add a zero and you're at the low end of "expensive" watches.



Rear-facing camera unexpectedly unpopular....

:eek:too high. we have very inexpensive wrist-watches here in my country

Solomani
Aug 29, 2013, 08:47 AM
Have you been a watch shop lately? $200 is not expensive. You can spend a lot more just for the right brand name. The iWatch won't be toy, it will be a serious bit of kit.

Agreed. $200 is not 'expensive' at all for something that will eventually be recognized as a wearable "personal computer". The iPhone is, for the most part, a personal computer. Even the near-obsolete iPhone 4 of today is a MUCH more powerful computing device than some of the old IBM mainframes used during the Cold War era.

Give it a few years, and the iWatch will eventually evolve into a "personal mini-computer" that can do many of the tasks (and maybe more) that a 2005-era iMac or an iPhone 4 could have done.

"iWatch, print my most recent email message."
"iWatch, turn on the security alarm on my Lexus."
"iWatch, purchase/download the Jimmy Buffet album on my iTunes Store Wish List."

Apple's rabid obsession with "thin" devices is a prelude to even further miniaturization, thus leading the way to true personal wearable mini-computers imagined in Star Trek and The Jetsons.

At first I was also suspicious (annoyed) of Apple's obsession with "thinness". But eventually I realized what they are trying to do. Their goal is to pave the way or push the envelope in personal computing miniaturization.

dec.
Aug 29, 2013, 08:57 AM
:eek:too high. we have very inexpensive wrist-watches here in my country

Same here, the other day I almost bought one for $10 at the drug store.

dBeats
Aug 29, 2013, 03:50 PM
It would be great if it came before samsungs. It's really sad that Apple is coming second these days.

Ok, after yet another embarrassingly awkward presentation from Samsung where you'll see skits with people asking each other what time is it while skipping around on stage and a booming voice from nowhere saying "The Galaxy Gear...always on time...with YOU" you'll see why it's better to think a little more and perfect something before letting the whole world watch (get it) you embarrass the hell out of yourself.

D.T.
Aug 29, 2013, 04:24 PM
I think that the biggest barrier to smartwatch adoption is battery life. People just aren't going to want to charge all the time. Once a day is not uncommon, but even once a week is a pain. They'll either need batteries all around the strap (like Apple patents seem to indicate) or some kind of quick inductive charger.

I said the same thing in another thread: phones ... yeah, the SOP is charging every 1-2 days. A watch? Batteries last a long time (including when charged via solar).

I love the idea of inductive charging with a watch, because the other feature I think is needed is waterproofing, even if just like a meter. Watches get a decent amount of water exposure, so they could go port-less, using induction charging (use BT for headphones).

kdarling
Aug 31, 2013, 09:23 PM
Personally I loved my WIMM One ($199) developer watch, which was more powerful than any of the others, because it included WiFi, so it could update its news readers, weather, etc without needing a phone mothership for comms.

I had no problem creating my own test app for it, and it included a watchface SDK.

Unfortunately, (WIMM Labs) was bought up by someone unknown.

Whoa. Google just confirmed (http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/31/google-acquires-wimm-labs/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)) that they're the ones who bought WIMM Labs last year.

Very interesting. Google must have a watch project going, as well as Glass.

egoistaxx9
Sep 2, 2013, 08:58 AM
$199? it's apple, not any chinese manufacturer(and i dont mean that in a bad way), dont expect anything under $350 from apple. if they can price their "low-cost" iphone at almost $600 i dont think they will price their smartwatch at $199.

mlblacy
Sep 2, 2013, 09:10 AM
I have a Jawbone UP2, and love it. The size, form and function are pretty much perfect. What is missing though is an integrated GPS mapping feature (yes, there are 3rd party apps that interface with it). Currently I run with my iPhone, but would love to shed that weight if I could. If it has to tether via lowpower Bluetooth, I am not sure about it. Pricepoint at $199 isn't horrible, considering the UP2 is $129.... cheaper would be better.

For everyone that goes meh, what you have to realize is the revolution that wearable computing can bring. Remember, they said the same about the iPod, iTunes, iPhone, etc. Even with the failed Quicktake camera, it pointed the way down the path to what can be (not be, at version 1.0).

Regarding the mockups, the curved thing is probably about as likely as the flying cars we are all supposed to have by now (sadly), the blocky one seems too close to what already exists with the hacked Nanos. The Samsung "leaked" images for theirs are probably fake (unless they are complete idiots). Who wants to strap a 3" screen to their wrist?? Dubious on that one. http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/01/this-is-samsungs-galaxy-gear-smartwatch-a-blocky-health-tracker-with-a-camera/

mlblacy
Sep 2, 2013, 09:40 AM
At least i've got my own iWatch style already :D

Image (http://s11.postimg.org/r8l2417c3/image.jpg)


Image (http://s21.postimg.org/9iijlctgn/image.jpg)

Which is why I think there will be a bit of design evolution on what already "is".