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MacRumors
Sep 3, 2013, 09:39 AM
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Popular music service Spotify today announced (http://news.spotify.com/us/connect/) that it will be launching a new "Spotify Connect" feature in its mobile and desktop apps, allowing users to wirelessly stream their music to compatible home audio systems and other devices. The feature is similar in many ways to Apple's AirPlay standard, and supports background streaming to allow users to continue using their devices for other tasks while streaming music.Bring your music home. You walk through the door, listening to a great playlist on your phone. With Connect, just hit play on your living room speakers and the music instantly fires up, right where you left off. You won't miss a beat.

Then pick up your tablet to control the music from your sofa. Or switch the sound to your iPod Touch in the kitchen's docking station. Keep the music flowing with Connect.WWT4o9AwuT0
Spotify has announced partnerships with a number of major home audio system manufacturers, including Pioneer, Philips, and Denon, and Spotify Connect will be "available soon" on iOS devices for subscribers to Spotify's $9.99/month Premium service. Support for Android devices and desktop apps will be available "in the coming months".

Article Link: Spotify Announces AirPlay-Like 'Spotify Connect' for Wireless Audio Streaming (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/03/spotify-announces-airplay-like-spotify-connect-for-wireless-audio-streaming/)



Brandon263
Sep 3, 2013, 09:54 AM
I guess this means the end of Remoteless for Spotify (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/remoteless-for-spotify-spotify/id353392482?mt=8).

steipete
Sep 3, 2013, 09:55 AM
Why would this be any better than AirPlay?

Quu
Sep 3, 2013, 09:57 AM
Just support Airplay already! :rolleyes:

rmbpuser
Sep 3, 2013, 09:59 AM
Why would this be any better than AirPlay?

this? why do we need bazillion features that work the same i know that airplay is different than bluetooth but the average user wouldnt need anything more than bluetooth, and now spoitify connect too, why?

WordMasterRice
Sep 3, 2013, 10:09 AM
this? why do we need bazillion features that work the same i know that airplay is different than bluetooth but the average user wouldnt need anything more than bluetooth, and now spoitify connect too, why?

Because this is what happens when you deal with Apple and their ridiculous closed protocols. If Apple allowed other devices to use airplay then it might take off but until then Spotify and companies like it don't have a choice but to make their own.

lolkthxbai
Sep 3, 2013, 10:11 AM
I still laugh at the fact that android support is almost always arriving late for new features.

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this? why do we need bazillion features that work the same i know that airplay is different than bluetooth but the average user wouldnt need anything more than bluetooth, and now spoitify connect too, why?

Competition is great. Besides, I love the fireworks when a feature ends up crashing and burning.

nuckinfutz
Sep 3, 2013, 10:17 AM
Pass.

I'm either investing in more Airplay stuff next year or i'm going Sonos. This is just another Chromecast.

Spotify has mentioned nothing about this new protocol that isn't already being done.

street.cory
Sep 3, 2013, 10:27 AM
I've been using Airplay with Spotify since it came out. I'm not sure if this is their way of bridging the iOS/Android gap or if there was something else they wanted to do that they couldn't do with Airplay.

Hmm.

thenaes
Sep 3, 2013, 10:33 AM
Just support Airplay already! :rolleyes:

Umm... they do?

Pass.

I'm either investing in more Airplay stuff next year or i'm going Sonos. This is just another Chromecast.

Spotify has mentioned nothing about this new protocol that isn't already being done.
Except this is better than Chromecast (at least for audio). Spotify has hardware partners and it is being built-into those products. This is similar to being "DLNA certified" or "AirPlay certified". It will co-exist and will just be another set of software running on these devices.

Chromecast is limited to the one device that Google has built.

lars666
Sep 3, 2013, 10:43 AM
If I understand this correctly, the difference to Airplay is that you don't stream Spotify directly from the iPhone (using its resources and battery) lto a speaker, but really "change" to this special speaker (which needs to be not only an Airplay speaker, but a special one with "real" Spotify ability) - and from then on, the combined speaker/Spotify radio station does all the computing work and the iPhone only still works as a remote.

Am I right? (If not, I don't see the benefit to normal Airplay either.)

iMerik
Sep 3, 2013, 10:47 AM
Pass.

I'm either investing in more Airplay stuff next year or i'm going Sonos. This is just another Chromecast.

Spotify has mentioned nothing about this new protocol that isn't already being done.
I too am thinking Sonos. I was actually going to pick up a Sonos Playbar, but the lack of HDMI input kind of put the brakes on that. It only accepts optical audio and many/most new TVs only send 2.1 over optical. Getting even more off-topic, does anyone have a rumors when a new Playbar would be released? I'm guessing not for a few years.

WordMasterRice
Sep 3, 2013, 10:56 AM
If I understand this correctly, the difference to Airplay is that you don't stream Spotify directly from the iPhone (using its resources and battery) lto a speaker, but really "change" to this special speaker (which needs to be not only an Airplay speaker, but a special one with "real" Spotify ability) - and from then on, the combined speaker/Spotify radio station does all the computing work and the iPhone only still works as a remote.

Am I right? (If not, I don't see the benefit to normal Airplay either.)

I think you are correct. I think this benefits all platforms because now you aren't restricted to an i-device to airplay from, and it lets you control the stream from any device, not just the one that is "airplaying".

turtlebud
Sep 3, 2013, 11:52 AM
not really a fan of things being build into hardware. i've found the airport express to be great - it streams to my current stereo system and if I decide to upgrade, it'll stream to that one too. now i don't know if i'd buy an airport express SOLELY for the purpose of streaming audio to my stereo, but I needed it because my dish receiver needed a wired ethernet connection, so at the time, it was the easiest way to extend my network & gain an ethernet port near my tv.

Quu
Sep 3, 2013, 11:57 AM
Umm... they do?

Not on the desktop client. Which for me is the only one that matters.

lars666
Sep 3, 2013, 12:05 PM
Not on the desktop client. Which for me is the only one that matters.

You should have a look at the mac program "Airfoil", I think this is a pretty good solution for music streaming to Airplay devices.

ClaveMan
Sep 3, 2013, 12:11 PM
[update] I meant you do not need Spotify to support Airplay.

System Preferences->Sound

Select a device for sound output:

(A list of all your Airplay devices is shown).

Select the Airplay you want.
Enjoy your Spotify..

street.cory
Sep 3, 2013, 01:09 PM
Not on the desktop client. Which for me is the only one that matters.

Or you could just go into to the sound menu in System Preferences and choose which device you want to play your music on in the output dropdown menu.

What ClaveMan said...

System Preferences->Sound

Select a device for sound output:

(A list of all your Airplay devices is shown).

Select the Airplay you want.
Enjoy your Spotify..

GoCubsGo
Sep 3, 2013, 02:05 PM
Just support Airplay already! :rolleyes:

Agreed. It's straight silly at this point.

lars666
Sep 3, 2013, 02:49 PM
Agreed. It's straight silly at this point.

What can you expect from a company who even didn't manage to make their Mac app Retina-ready until today...? Only program left which looks like **** on my Retina MacBook Pro, sorry for the strong word.

amanset
Sep 3, 2013, 03:06 PM
[update] I meant you do not need Spotify to support Airplay.

System Preferences->Sound

Select a device for sound output:

(A list of all your Airplay devices is shown).

Select the Airplay you want.
Enjoy your Spotify..

The problem is that ALL you Mac's sound goes through it. Alerts, everything. Skype ringing through your stereo turned up high is *very* annoying.

GoCubsGo
Sep 3, 2013, 03:41 PM
What can you expect from a company who even didn't manage to make their Mac app Retina-ready until today...? Only program left which looks like **** on my Retina MacBook Pro, sorry for the strong word.

But the number of people who give two ***** about retina versus those who have air play capable devices are pretty far apart. Many stereo receivers have this feature, not retina. There are likely more ATVs floating around than there are retina MBPs. I can see why Spotify didn't bother to update their app for retina right away. It could have happened sooner, but owners of a retina machine are a minority compared to those with the air play capable devices.

So I say again, this is something that should happen.

lars666
Sep 3, 2013, 04:35 PM
But the number of people who give two ***** about retina versus those who have air play capable devices are pretty far apart. Many stereo receivers have this feature, not retina. There are likely more ATVs floating around than there are retina MBPs. I can see why Spotify didn't bother to update their app for retina right away. It could have happened sooner, but owners of a retina machine are a minority compared to those with the air play capable devices.

So I say again, this is something that should happen.

At least, the Airplay thing can be fixed with the solutions described above. Not so about the Retina thing. It's all a matter of what somebody's individual "problems" are, I guess, and for us owners of Retina MacBooks it simply is annoying as hell at this point that Spotify can't get their ***** together to update their software for Retina support for us (paying) customers like every small software developer out there, too. Ridiculous and ignorant, especially if you have a look at the mods reactions in their official forums concerning this topic.

Quu
Sep 3, 2013, 04:41 PM
You should have a look at the mac program "Airfoil", I think this is a pretty good solution for music streaming to Airplay devices.

Already aware of this program but it isn't needed with Mountain Lion as that functionality is baked right in.

[update] I meant you do not need Spotify to support Airplay.

System Preferences->Sound

Select a device for sound output:

(A list of all your Airplay devices is shown).

Select the Airplay you want.
Enjoy your Spotify..

This sucks. It's laggy and all the interface sounds go through the speakers. It's just poor, nothing like the native Airplay support in iTunes. I have an Airport Express obviously I know all about this stuff I just didn't detail my lifes history in my short post, I want Spotify to support it out of the box like I said.

Or you could just go into to the sound menu in System Preferences and choose which device you want to play your music on in the output dropdown menu.

What ClaveMan said...

As my post above ^ it sucks, nothing like iTunes Airplay.

lars666
Sep 4, 2013, 02:44 AM
Already aware of this program but it isn't needed with Mountain Lion as that functionality is baked right in.



This sucks. It's laggy and all the interface sounds go through the speakers. It's just poor, nothing like the native Airplay support in iTunes. I have an Airport Express obviously I know all about this stuff I just didn't detail my lifes history in my short post, I want Spotify to support it out of the box like I said.



As my post above ^ it sucks, nothing like iTunes Airplay.

With Airfoil, you can choose one specific program (e.g. Spotify) for Airplay. The rest of the sound will still go through the default output. That's why I pointed Airfoil out instead of the native Mountain Lion Airplay support and it works exactly like Spotify Airplay would work.

roadbloc
Sep 4, 2013, 03:12 AM
this? why do we need bazillion features that work the same i know that airplay is different than bluetooth but the average user wouldnt need anything more than bluetooth, and now spoitify connect too, why?

Because Apple only offers Airplay on their platforms. I suppose it is wrong of Spotify to add useful features to their software? Nobody is forcing you to use it. Use Bluetooth if it works for you. Spotify Connect and Airplay aren't going to cry because you chose Bluetooth over them.

koruki
Sep 4, 2013, 07:53 AM
This is not better than Airplay however I can see why they are releasing it as well as getting partners. Spotify is on multiple platforms, you wouldn't buy an Airplay compliant speaker unless you had Apple devices. You can buy now buy speakers that support the Spotify version wireless playing and not worry about having to be stuck with Apple to use it.

Quu
Sep 4, 2013, 09:57 AM
With Airfoil, you can choose one specific program (e.g. Spotify) for Airplay. The rest of the sound will still go through the default output. That's why I pointed Airfoil out instead of the native Mountain Lion Airplay support and it works exactly like Spotify Airplay would work.

I've used it, it's crap. Why? Laggy.

Start music in Spotify (5 seconds later) music plays on Airport. Change volume (5 seconds later) adjusts on Airport Express. Pause music (5 seconds later) Airport Stops playing Music.

iTunes is INSTANT. This is what I want, instant. Not this laggy 5 second delay stuff. I used Airfoil, it's crap.

lars666
Sep 4, 2013, 10:32 AM
I've used it, it's crap. Why? Laggy.

Start music in Spotify (5 seconds later) music plays on Airport. Change volume (5 seconds later) adjusts on Airport Express. Pause music (5 seconds later) Airport Stops playing Music.

iTunes is INSTANT. This is what I want, instant. Not this laggy 5 second delay stuff. I used Airfoil, it's crap.

If I use iTunes' Audio Airplay (NOT Airplay-Display-Mirroring of the whole system) it also doesn't work instantly, but always with a short delay until the music in the Airplay speakers starts - if I remember correctly, the music source is converted from the original source to lossless format first to not lose more quality. Same when skipping to a new track - always a delay/waiting pause. I have trouble believing that it is different in your case. I just tried airplaying from iTunes (again: using the symbol directly in the app) to my Zeppelin Air and my AppleTV - both have a short delay just like Airfoil. No difference. In fact, starting/switching tracks is even quicker with Airfoil on my system.

tsuma
Sep 4, 2013, 10:39 AM
Already aware of this program but it isn't needed with Mountain Lion as that functionality is baked right in.

Airfoil (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) lets you Airplay audio from all apps to multiple outputs. I use it with my Airport Expresses and Griffin Twenty amps (http://www.griffintechnology.com/twenty) around the house at a fraction of the cost of a Sonos system.

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I've used it, it's crap. Why? Laggy.

Start music in Spotify (5 seconds later) music plays on Airport. Change volume (5 seconds later) adjusts on Airport Express. Pause music (5 seconds later) Airport Stops playing Music.

iTunes is INSTANT. This is what I want, instant. Not this laggy 5 second delay stuff. I used Airfoil, it's crap.

5 seconds? My lag is more like 1-2. At least the synching is perfect for multiple audio out from any application.

bobr1952
Sep 4, 2013, 10:45 AM
I agree with the comments that we don't need yet another way to stream music to other systems.

I love AirPlay and find there are a lot of speaker systems that support it directly--I use a speaker system form Altec Lansing and really love it. I also agree that ML does make some streaming easier but with the steaming service I use--MOG--I like using Safari and streaming through AirFoil. There are more options and configurations available with AirFoil so it is still a viable product. For those who like at least some fidelity in their music, bluetooth is not really a very good option since sound quality is significantly degraded.

Quu
Sep 4, 2013, 11:07 AM
Airfoil (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) lets you Airplay audio from all apps to multiple outputs. I use it with my Airport Expresses and Griffin Twenty amps (http://www.griffintechnology.com/twenty) around the house at a fraction of the cost of a Sonos system.

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5 seconds? My lag is more like 1-2. At least the synching is perfect for multiple audio out from any application.

Even if it is 1-2 seconds now, that is too long. These workarounds suck. Spotify should just give in and add it to their desktop software. They already support like 4 or 5 different wireless audio systems on the desktop app including sonos but they refuse to support AirPlay.

I will not pay for their subscription unless they add native AirPlay support to the desktop software that is as instantaneous as iTunes which pauses, plays and adjusts volume instantly.

lars666
Sep 4, 2013, 11:21 AM
Even if it is 1-2 seconds now, that is too long. These workarounds suck. Spotify should just give in and add it to their desktop software. They already support like 4 or 5 different wireless audio systems on the desktop app including sonos but they refuse to support AirPlay.

I will not pay for their subscription unless they add native AirPlay support to the desktop software that is as instantaneous as iTunes which pauses, plays and adjusts volume instantly.

Again, I don't believe your instantaneous playing/skipping tracks with iTunes airplay. Same 1-2 seconds delay. Pausing is instant.

Quu
Sep 4, 2013, 11:39 AM
Again, I don't believe your instantaneous playing/skipping tracks with iTunes airplay. Same 1-2 seconds delay. Pausing is instant.

For me, pausing, unpausing and volume control is instant. That is all I care about. Using AirFoil it is not, it is noticeably laggy and annoying and all interface sounds from Spotify go through it, not just songs.

If they want my money they need to deliver a good product. The desktop app isn't retina ready and it doesn't support AirPlay. If they want to be on the Mac platform they should support it properly.

lars666
Sep 4, 2013, 11:45 AM
For me, pausing, unpausing and volume control is instant. That is all I care about.

Glad we got that corrected. :)

Quu
Sep 4, 2013, 01:11 PM
Glad we got that corrected. :)

:rolleyes:

kanoute
Sep 26, 2013, 07:21 AM
i have a 2013 MBA haswell and an ipad mini.

i also have an apple tv .i use it for music streaming . streaming spotify from mba and ipad mini.

i have a problem.

when i use my mba and stream with airplay to apple tv it crashes after 20 min or 30 mins. apple tv is connected to onkyo music system with optic cable.

it crashes mean it sound turns back to MBA. onkyo music system goes silent. and MBA speakers give the sound
and i need to start airplay mirroring again.

but i listen from ipad mini for hours and it doesnt crash.

note: i dont let mba goes sleep. it crashes while i use it.

i cant solve the problem. please help

thank u very much