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Sep 4, 2013, 09:26 AM
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A leaked inventory screenshot from Canadian mobile carrier Telus has revealed that the company will discontinue the 32 GB and 64 GB models of the iPhone 5 on September 28, eight days after the next-generation iPhone 5S and lower-cost iPhone 5C are expected to launch in the first wave of markets, reports MobileSyrup (http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/03/telus-discontinuing-the-iphone-5-on-september-28th/) (via iPhone in Canada (http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/telus/telus-discontinue-iphone-5-sept-28/)). The inventory screenshot makes no mention of either the 16 GB black iPhone 5 or white models of any capacity, making it unclear if Telus thinks that a 16 GB iPhone 5 will continue to be sold alongside the iPhone 5C and iPhone 5S.

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Discussion of whether Telus' plans point to continued sales of a low-end iPhone 5 comes following two prior indications that Apple would cease iPhone 5 production entirely in favor of a refreshed iPhone line. In late July, a report surfaced that Apple would be discontinuing (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/24/apple-to-discontinue-iphone-5-alongside-launch-of-5s-and-plastic-models/) production of the iPhone 5 in the fall, and would put all of its efforts towards the iPhone 5S and lower-cost iPhone 5C. That claim was followed by a forecast from KGI Securities last month predicting (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/19/iphone-5c-predicted-to-replace-iphone-5-iphone-4s-sales-to-continue/) that the iPhone 5C will replace the iPhone 5, with sales of the iPhone 4S to continue.

Apple's iPhone 5C and iPhone 5S are both expected to be revealed (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/03/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-10-media-event/) at a media event on September 10, with the two new devices expected to be released (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/20/iphone-5s-and-5c-expected-to-launch-in-japan-on-september-20/) in the first wave of markets on September 20.

Article Link: Canadian Carrier Telus to Discontinue 32 GB and 64 GB iPhone 5 Models on September 28 (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/04/canadian-carrier-telus-to-discontinue-32-gb-and-64-gb-iphone-5-models-on-september-28/)



jav6454
Sep 4, 2013, 09:29 AM
Given that a new iPhone is around the corner, makes sense for them.

pezj
Sep 4, 2013, 09:29 AM
Not Canadian BUT intriguing nonetheless.

BJMRamage
Sep 4, 2013, 09:29 AM
too bad they couldn't leak any news on the new phone sizes.

jrswizzle
Sep 4, 2013, 09:31 AM
Personally I think (hope) Apple goes the "completely refresh" route on the iPhone line.

The practice of selling last year (and even 2-yr old) tech at reduced prices isn't doing it for consumers. Regardless of what actually goes into the phones (most consumers prove they haven't the slightest clue), being able to say you update the line ANNUALLY would be a great marketing tool and boost for Apple.

iPhone #C
iPhone #/#S
iPhone #L

Each updated annually.

Tailpike1153
Sep 4, 2013, 09:39 AM
Personally I think (hope) Apple goes the "completely refresh" route on the iPhone line.

The practice of selling last year (and even 2-yr old) tech at reduced prices isn't doing it for consumers. Regardless of what actually goes into the phones (most consumers prove they haven't the slightest clue), being able to say you update the line ANNUALLY would be a great marketing tool and boost for Apple.

iPhone #C
iPhone #/#S
iPhone #L

Each updated annually.

What kind of boost would Apple get if the "update" is something weak like a new color?

madsci954
Sep 4, 2013, 09:39 AM
So it sounds the iPhone 5C will replace the 4S, the 5 will remain at 16GB only, and the 5S will be the new flagship phone.

jrswizzle
Sep 4, 2013, 09:43 AM
What kind of boost would Apple get if the "update" is something weak like a new color?

It's actually never "weak like a new color" - ignorant consumers only think that because they don't actually do any research.

The iPhone 4S to 5 was much more than just a spec bump and small screen-size increase. They created new display layering tech that made the display brighter and clearer despite the same resolution.

But all anyone sees is the spec sheet that says the resolution is the same and they cry "Apple doesn't update at all! Just a longer ugly screen" (which itself is an idiotic claim).

Anyways. Take it somewhere else.

SBlue1
Sep 4, 2013, 09:55 AM
What kind of boost would Apple get if the "update" is something weak like a new color?

Why would they do that? At least they will upgrade the internals.

lewisd25
Sep 4, 2013, 10:43 AM
So...

iPhone 5C 16gb
iPhone 5 16gb
iPhone 5S 32gb, 64gb, 128gb


Makes sense.

firedept
Sep 4, 2013, 10:51 AM
Gives us something to think about.

At first glance I read discount. Then found out I was sadly mistaken. Should have realized it was a CND carrier that was mentioned.

darcspyd3r
Sep 4, 2013, 11:00 AM
So...

iPhone 5C 16gb
iPhone 5 16gb
iPhone 5S 32gb, 64gb, 128gb


Makes sense.

Yep. ;)

BMcCoy
Sep 4, 2013, 11:01 AM
Nope.

;)

darcspyd3r
Sep 4, 2013, 11:03 AM
So...

iPhone 5C 16gb
iPhone 5 16gb
iPhone 5S 32gb, 64gb, 128gb


Makes sense.

I am of the firm belief that Apple will be making the iPhone 5C one memory size for all of the colors. I really don't see a company that controls their products so tightly manufacturing yet another phone with three different memory sizes.

Here's what I think they'll do and what makes logical sense to me:

iPhone 5:
-Reduced to 16gb Size Only
-Drops to $99 on Contract, $549 Off Contract
iPhone 5c:
-8gb or 16gb (NOT BOTH)
-$0 on Contract, $449 Off Contract
iPhone 5s:
-32gb
-64gb
-128gb
-All at the usual prices ($199, $299, $399 on contract, a bazillion dollars off-contract)

This also ensures all iPhones being sold have the larger screen and lightning connectors.

Done. Perhaps I should go be an analyst now. I hear you just have to make stuff up and write for a blog :rolleyes:.

zorinlynx
Sep 4, 2013, 11:22 AM
Why hasn't the minimum size been bumped to 32GB yet? Flash memory is dirt cheap and 16GB isn't really enough to use the device to the fullest anymore.

There's no reason for Apple to be stingy on this anymore!

It should be:

iPhone 5 32GB
iPhone 5c 32GB
iPhone 5s 32GB, 64GB, 128GB

Plutonius
Sep 4, 2013, 11:27 AM
So it sounds the iPhone 5C will replace the 4S, the 5 will remain at 16GB only, and the 5S will be the new flagship phone.

Sounds like a good prediction. Most people think the 5S will come in 32/64/128 GB. I'm still not sure why anyone would get a 16GB 5 instead of a 5C.

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Why hasn't the minimum size been bumped to 32GB yet? Flash memory is dirt cheap and 16GB isn't really enough to use the device to the fullest anymore.

There's no reason for Apple to be stingy on this anymore!

It should be:

iPhone 5 32GB
iPhone 5c 32GB
iPhone 5s 32GB, 64GB, 128GB

I believe that the 5C will be 16GB only since they want the lowest possible cost.

The 5S should be 32/64/128 GB.

kerrikins
Sep 4, 2013, 11:31 AM
Why hasn't the minimum size been bumped to 32GB yet? Flash memory is dirt cheap and 16GB isn't really enough to use the device to the fullest anymore.

There's no reason for Apple to be stingy on this anymore!

It should be:

iPhone 5 32GB
iPhone 5c 32GB
iPhone 5s 32GB, 64GB, 128GB

Because of iCloud. Encouraging users to store more and more data in the cloud means they're more likely to fully integrate into the iOS system and stick with Apple, why would they increase device memory size?

ValSalva
Sep 4, 2013, 11:33 AM
Because of iCloud. Encouraging users to store more and more data in the cloud means they're more likely to fully integrate into the iOS system and stick with Apple, why would they increase device memory size?

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

vmistery
Sep 4, 2013, 11:39 AM
I think the 5 will stay in a 16 GB only form above the 5c. The 5c will probably be 8 and 16GB with the 5S 32/64/128. The 4s I think will say bye bye but I also expect the 5c to be cheaper.

So
5S 32/64/128 529/599/699
5 16 449
5c 8/16 299 / 349

Question is what then happens next year. Do they drop both the 5c and 5?

mrjr101
Sep 4, 2013, 01:22 PM
So...

iPhone 5C 16gb
iPhone 5 16gb
iPhone 5S 32gb, 64gb, 128gb


Makes sense.
of course it makes sense. Like I said before on another post. Who would want to trade their iphone 5 for the plastic?
The order of product quality and value should be as follows:
1. iPhone 5S
2. iPhone 5
3. iPhone 5c

Older models discontinued.

zorinlynx
Sep 4, 2013, 01:32 PM
Because of iCloud. Encouraging users to store more and more data in the cloud means they're more likely to fully integrate into the iOS system and stick with Apple, why would they increase device memory size?

Good network connectivity isn't ubiquitous enough for the cloud to replace local storage. Especially with tiny data caps on cellular data.

kerrikins
Sep 4, 2013, 03:19 PM
I'm talking about the company's position, though, not the consumer. I wasn't saying that I agree or disagree, just explaining why the company wouldn't necessarily be eager to increase the memory.

Kebabselector
Sep 4, 2013, 04:20 PM
Because of iCloud. Encouraging users to store more and more data in the cloud means they're more likely to fully integrate into the iOS system and stick with Apple, why would they increase device memory size?

Apps are getting bigger (some games are getting too big), 16gb just won't cut it any more.

mdelvecchio
Sep 4, 2013, 04:40 PM
The practice of selling last year (and even 2-yr old) tech at reduced prices isn't doing it for consumers.

the data doesnt appear to support your conclusion. apple has insane iphone sales and they dont break it down by model...but flickr has the top three cameras on their site:

Apple iPhone 5
Apple iPhone 4S
Apple iPhone 4

...a lot of people buy the cheaper last-years phone. people who are budget conscious dont care about specs the way you do.

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I am of the firm belief that Apple will be making the iPhone 5C one memory size for all of the colors. I really don't see a company that controls their products so tightly manufacturing yet another phone with three different memory sizes.

Here's what I think they'll do and what makes logical sense to me:

iPhone 5:
-Reduced to 16gb Size Only
-Drops to $99 on Contract, $549 Off Contract
iPhone 5c:
-8gb or 16gb (NOT BOTH)
-$0 on Contract, $449 Off Contract
iPhone 5s:
-32gb
-64gb
-128gb
-All at the usual prices ($199, $299, $399 on contract, a bazillion dollars off-contract)


this. it makes sense...i dont believe apple will launch a new design every year, i think theyll keep the tick-tock for the flagship phone, rotating last-year's model to the $99 spot as they are now. dunno what theyll do w/ the C annually. minor refreshes? sell out of the old inventory and only produce the new?

----------

Why hasn't the minimum size been bumped to 32GB yet? Flash memory is dirt cheap and 16GB isn't really enough to use the device to the fullest anymore.

There's no reason for Apple to be stingy on this anymore!

It should be:

iPhone 5 32GB
iPhone 5c 32GB
iPhone 5s 32GB, 64GB, 128GB

dont hold your breath. the entire point of the C is to be low-cost. in order to keep their margins theyll go low on the storage. thats its point.

jrswizzle
Sep 4, 2013, 04:41 PM
the data doesnt appear to support your conclusion. apple has insane iphone sales and they dont break it down by model...but flickr has the top three cameras on their site:

Apple iPhone 5
Apple iPhone 4S
Apple iPhone 4

...a lot of people buy the cheaper last-years phone. people who are budget conscious dont care about specs the way you do.

You miss my point.

People who are budget conscious would be MORE likely to buy with my scenario.

Look at it like this:

Apple release the 5S and discounts the 4S, a phone that's been around for 2 years and has different ports and display size, to free on contract.

-or-

Apple releases the 5S and 5C, a brand NEW phone (with last year's internals) for free on contract and it doesn't necessarily cost them any more to produce than the 4S or 5.....

Apple benefits from being able to market the 5C as NEW, when the reality is its still got last year's internals. And as you said, budget conscious people don't care about specs. But you can bet they'll feel they're getting a better deal being able to buy a NEW phone for free on contract (or $450 off) versus a 2-year old phone.

mdelvecchio
Sep 4, 2013, 05:56 PM
Because of iCloud. Encouraging users to store more and more data in the cloud means they're more likely to fully integrate into the iOS system and stick with Apple, why would they increase device memory size?

theres no reason to believe this. just as with their computing line, the iphones continue to increase in size after a couple of years -- once the component costs reach the margin level apple wants to earn on them.

consumers enjoy plentiful devices. theres no reason to believe apple wont continue to sell high-capacity devices on the premium end. the C is not premium, and naturally likely wont have the same capacity as its big brothers.

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You miss my point..

i didnt miss your point. i was refuting something very specific that you said -- that buying last-year's doesnt cut it for consumers. it certain does, and has been a winning strategy. i expect this to continue in the future, albeit with the newer phones rotating into the older spots.

i dont doubt for a moment that apple will replace the non-lightning, non-4" devices with the the C, but also w/ the current iphone5 -- same thing as always. this way they get two years of production run time on a given form factor.

Giuly
Sep 4, 2013, 07:53 PM
Why hasn't the minimum size been bumped to 32GB yet? Flash memory is dirt cheap and 16GB isn't really enough to use the device to the fullest anymore.

There's no reason for Apple to be stingy on this anymore!

It should be:

iPhone 5 32GB
iPhone 5c 32GB
iPhone 5s 32GB, 64GB, 128GB

If Apple would put those dirt cheap prices to work and find a way to increase the speed of the internal storage along with the capacity - that'd be great.

Have SATA-based storage (or better), don't have eMMC-based storage anymore.

BC2009
Sep 5, 2013, 01:43 AM
I am of the firm belief that Apple will be making the iPhone 5C one memory size for all of the colors. I really don't see a company that controls their products so tightly manufacturing yet another phone with three different memory sizes.

Here's what I think they'll do and what makes logical sense to me:

iPhone 5:
-Reduced to 16gb Size Only
-Drops to $99 on Contract, $549 Off Contract
iPhone 5c:
-8gb or 16gb (NOT BOTH)
-$0 on Contract, $449 Off Contract
iPhone 5s:
-32gb
-64gb
-128gb
-All at the usual prices ($199, $299, $399 on contract, a bazillion dollars off-contract)

This also ensures all iPhones being sold have the larger screen and lightning connectors.

Done. Perhaps I should go be an analyst now. I hear you just have to make stuff up and write for a blog :rolleyes:.

I think your reasoning is spot-on, but I think the iPhone 5C will be less off-contract. iPod Touch 16GB is $229. Cellular radio upgrade in iPad is $129. Add those together and you get $358. Figure the iPod Touch aluminum shell with lanyard ring costs more to make than iPhone 5C shell, but the 16GB iPod Touch lacks a rear camera. In the end I think you land sub-$400 for off-contract iPhone 5C (probably $380, but no less than $359)

macs4nw
Sep 5, 2013, 02:16 AM
Good network connectivity isn't ubiquitous enough for the cloud to replace local storage. Especially with tiny data caps on cellular data.

That is exactly the problem, for the foreseeable future, and Apple knows it.