Defective Xbox 360s Cropping Up!

[iriejedi]

#1 REASON TO wait and buy one at a store where it can be returned!

:eek:

http://gamersreports.com/news/216/


Defective Xbox360 Units Cropping Up >
2005/11/22 21:55:55: Posted by DM

Apparently a slew of defective Xbox360 units are being reported all over the web. There is no set pattern and the consoles crash during any game or sometimes at the dashboard. Our friends over at Xbox-Scene have wrapped it up for you in a nice post. It is too early to tell what the problem is, but if this is widespread it could damage the MS reputation even further.

[rosalindavenue]

There is a Slashdot thread on this (http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/11/23/138200.shtml?tid=128&tid=211&tid=10). One of the better posts theorizes that it is heat-- an overheated graphics card. Apple people know from the G5 what kind of heat the processors can produce; we also know that graphics cards are hot (apparently this is the main reason the 'books dont have more vram). Anyway, the combination of G5 and graphics card heat may make for some real problems. I'm sure it has some noisy fans as well.

[dmw007]

What??? Microsoft making something defective???? I don't believe it! ;) :)

[raggedjimmi]

I've heard of problems too, but I suppose its to be expected. Microsoft wanted this system out ASAP. if they had more time then it there'd likely be less faults. we're apple users, we know the problems with Rev A!

[Onizuka]

Mine's good so far. I was on it for a couple hours last night before I crashed fro 11 and a half hours after being up for over 30.

I knew it would happen to some, it always does (like someone else said) with Revision A models. But, mine is okay so far. So that's good for me. Hope everyone else here got a good unit!

[grapes911]

I've heard of problems too, but I suppose its to be expected. Microsoft wanted this system out ASAP. if they had more time then it there'd likely be less faults. we're apple users, we know the problems with Rev A!
I read multiple reviews that more bugs than usual were to be expected because of the rushed production. I even have a friend at IMB that worked on XBox 360 layouts and she it just wasn't ready but they didn't have a choise. Just another reason to wait for PS3.

[GFLPraxis]

I'd been having a lot of bugs on the demo units, but assumed (as any XBox fan would vigorously insist) that they were pre-release units. Guess not.

Well, thats what happens with first gen products.

[woxel1]

Well, thats what happens with first gen products.Not Nintendo's :p :D

[reberto]

Miine crashed once and hasent sence

[tutubibi]

Well, thats what happens with first gen products.

It's sad that we accept that.

Game consoles should be simple "just-works", like NES used to be and like VCRs, TV are.

Microsoft and others are moving electronic consumer mindset toward computer user mindset of accepting constant patches, upgrades and so on.

[xli_ne]

wouldn't it be great to wait outside in the cold for hours or days, to get a defective 360. one of the reasons i will (hopefully) never do this with any system.

[Counterfit]

Not Nintendo's :p :D
Three cheers for the big N's QC. We own almost every system they've ever made, including an original NES (I think it's older than me :eek: ) and a Virtual Boy, and the only one that ever needed repair was the SNES, and the Super Scope.

[Lacero]

At least it crashes quickly and in high definition.

[takao]

I'd been having a lot of bugs on the demo units, but assumed (as any XBox fan would vigorously insist) that they were pre-release units. Guess not.

well i hope for microsoft that the still boxed up demo kiosk i saw standing in the store today won't have much bugs ;).. looks like demo units are finally delivered .. was about time

[iriejedi]

At least it crashes quickly and in high definition.


What does a High Def Blue Screen look like...they should add clouds of smoke drifty by on the blue screen - ooooh look - that one looks like an Apple:p


Bwaahahahahahahahaha

[raggedjimmi]

Three cheers for the big N's QC. We own almost every system they've ever made, including an original NES (I think it's older than me :eek: ) and a Virtual Boy, and the only one that ever needed repair was the SNES, and the Super Scope.

aye to that. my NES, GBA vintage, N64, Cube (bought on launch day too so thats Rev A), SP and DS (imported US rev A!) all without any problems.

to be fair to Microsoft they do need this christmas boost. its a good time to get in some profit but it has cost them with typical rushed hardware.

[ijimk]

Not Nintendo's :p :D
very true i have a 1st gen GBA sp and zero problems as well as a DS and GCN :) another reason to get a Rev :D

[tutubibi]

very true i have a 1st gen GBA sp and zero problems as well as a DS and GCN :) another reason to get a Rev :D

Agreed.

GBA SP is the ultimate gaming machine. Simple, addictive, excellent choice of games. Who needs XBox 360?

[GFLPraxis]

It's sad that we accept that.

Game consoles should be simple "just-works", like NES used to be and like VCRs, TV are.

Microsoft and others are moving electronic consumer mindset toward computer user mindset of accepting constant patches, upgrades and so on.

I don't accept it, I just expect it. It especially seems the computer companies have more problems with it. I honestly don't know why.

Gaming-only companies never seem to have problems. Find me bugs in the GameCube, GameBoy Advance, NES, SNES, Nintendo DS, Sega Genesis, or any of the new or old systems from Nintendo or Sega. Then compare to the XBox/360 and PS2 (disk drive failures, crashes, poor quality control, power supplies that become torches, etc).

I'm not stating that gaming-only companies are inherintly superior, it just seems that they have less problems with their systems. But then, Sega got wiped out and Nintendo's market share is declining, so it looks like people don't care about hardware quality anymore.

[cr2sh]

God I love the internet.

[tutubibi]

I don't accept it, I just expect it. It especially seems the computer companies have more problems with it. I honestly don't know why.

Gaming-only companies never seem to have problems. Find me bugs in the GameCube, GameBoy Advance, NES, SNES, Nintendo DS, Sega Genesis, or any of the new or old systems from Nintendo or Sega. Then compare to the XBox/360 and PS2 (disk drive failures, crashes, poor quality control, power supplies that become torches, etc).

I'm not stating that gaming-only companies are inherintly superior, it just seems that they have less problems with their systems. But then, Sega got wiped out and Nintendo's market share is declining, so it looks like people don't care about hardware quality anymore.

Again, I agree completely. Maybe you and me are not accepting it but majority of people do.
People who think that products should be simple and just work are dying breed. Companies managed to lower consumer expetations so low and make consumer actually wish to pay for the crap they release with such a bad quality. Instead of "intelligent consumer”, we are heading to the worst scenario of consumerism: "brain-washed consumer".


P.S. Just look at how Sony BMG is treating their CD customers (rootkit issue).

[TDM21]

Gaming-only companies never seem to have problems. Find me bugs in the GameCube, GameBoy Advance, NES, SNES, Nintendo DS, Sega Genesis, or any of the new or old systems from Nintendo or Sega. Then compare to the XBox/360 and PS2 (disk drive failures, crashes, poor quality control, power supplies that become torches, etc).

I can name one problem with the NES. Remeber how the console after so many years would refure to play games. You would try everything: blow in the case, blow on the cartridge, clean the contacts. Thought I read the issue was from the connectors oxidizing.

[Onizuka]

Again, I agree completely. Maybe you and me are not accepting it but majority of people do.
People who think that products should be simple and just work are dying breed. Companies managed to lower consumer expetations so low and make consumer actually wish to pay for the crap they release with such a bad quality. Instead of "intelligent consumer”, we are heading to the worst scenario of consumerism: "brain-washed consumer".


P.S. Just look at how Sony BMG is treating their CD customers (rootkit issue).


I agree as well, to a degree. I realize that there MAY be faults, but none-the-less, msot of the time I expect things to just work. My Mac mini's ability to screw me on a wirless network is very tiring. The fact that my 360 would not recover my gamertag yesterday almost caused me to get extremely violent (especially since I had been awake for more than 30 hours at that point.) I have since got the issue corrected.

Things SHOULD just work. I would love it if more things did this. Unfortunately, a lot of companies, as others have said, don't think about it this way.

Other than that, my 360 is working flawlessly, the Mac mini is working, and life is good.

[Mord]

i had one crash on me at HMV, i was playing king kong and pukversieing a dinosaur when it turned green the screen went crazy and then blank, some m$ rep came running to it.

[FoxyKaye]

...but this really made me laugh. Not only is M$ losing money on the 360, but when it finally does hit the market, it's defective. Can't wait to see what happens with Longhorn/Vista.:D

[FoxyKaye]

I can name one problem with the NES. Remeber how the console after so many years would refure to play games. You would try everything: blow in the case, blow on the cartridge, clean the contacts. Thought I read the issue was from the connectors oxidizing.
I do - I think you're right, too, regarding the reason. IIRC, there were even aftermarket products for a DIY cleaning that were supposed to solve this, but of course, didn't work.

[eva01]

Ah i love my first Gen NES which is older than me which is still working to this day.

^_^ or any other system i have ever owned from Nintendo, or my Sega Genesis.

No defective hardware ever.

The only defective things i have ever owned in my life have come from either Sony or MS, scary.

[Mord]

i still fire up my DC every now and again, still going strong, as is my mega drive (genesis) and my master system.

[Laser47]

I guess they will have to wait for Xbox Service Pack 1 to be released.
Since you can download demos and content through the 360 I wonder when we will start seeing viruses for it?
I can see it now, Walking into the game store and seeing "Mcafee VirusScan For Xbox 360"

[Scruge]

God I love the internet.
God i hate the Xbox :D

[qzak]

...but this really made me laugh. Not only is M$ losing money on the 360, but when it finally does hit the market, it's defective. Can't wait to see what happens with Longhorn/Vista.:D

it's not jsut MS, every company loses money for the first few years of a new game console. Sony will lose money on every PS3 when it comes out aswell. for console gaming the money is in the games and accessories, not the sale of the actual unit

[Viewtiful Rich]

Nintendo makes money from their consoles as well.

With the exception of my NES I can fire up every Nintendo and Sega console and portable I've owned right now... my PSone went long ago, and I've had several problems with my PS2 (lens and fan)... I'm just waiting for it to kill over at this point.

You'd think there be a point where people tell them to stick their crappy hardware, but no we have people on their second and third replacement PS2s. I'd love to know how many consoles sold are actually replacements... it probably be shocking. My brother hasn't had any problems with his xbox, but I know a few others that have. And my Gamecube, that I've had since launch, hasn't had any problems yet...

But anyways it'll be interesting to see how common the problems are and what Microsoft does (if anything) about it.

[calyxman]

I don't accept it, I just expect it. It especially seems the computer companies have more problems with it. I honestly don't know why.

Gaming-only companies never seem to have problems. Find me bugs in the GameCube, GameBoy Advance, NES, SNES, Nintendo DS, Sega Genesis, or any of the new or old systems from Nintendo or Sega. Then compare to the XBox/360 and PS2 (disk drive failures, crashes, poor quality control, power supplies that become torches, etc).

I'm not stating that gaming-only companies are inherintly superior, it just seems that they have less problems with their systems. But then, Sega got wiped out and Nintendo's market share is declining, so it looks like people don't care about hardware quality anymore.

I agree. I owned many of those systems, and they just plain worked. I purchase an N64 from the day it launched and it never gave me problems.

[Crikey]

( . . . ) My Mac mini's ability to screw me on a wirless network is very tiring. ( . . . )


Oh, my. I knew I shouldn't have spent extra for the iMac.


Crikey

[abhishekit]

The real worrying thing is that one of the reasons for the hardware failure (blinking red lights) is overheating !!!
Now that is not something that can be fixed by some patch for the current affected systems. That is just bad design.

[Laser47]

The gamecube is very durable. It was once dropped down the stairs, and still works perfictly. My PS2, has been working great for 2 years but recently when I pop in a game the drive makes a horrible grinding noise occasionally, although when i pop out the disk its unharmed.

[2nyRiggz]

rushing the product huh microsoft.....well all is well on this street so i cant complain.

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