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Sep 10, 2013, 12:57 PM
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Apple's iPhone 5s is equipped with both an A7 processor and a new "M7" chip that is otherwise known as a "motion coprocessor." It is designed to work alongside the A7 processor, capturing motion data from the phone's compass, accelerometer, and gyroscope to power a new generation of health and fitness apps.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/09/m7chip.jpgEvery iPhone 5s includes the new M7 motion coprocessor that gathers data from the accelerometer, gyroscope and compass to offload work from the A7 for improved power efficiency. Developers can also access new CoreMotion APIs that take advantage of M7, so they can create even better fitness and activity apps that go well beyond what other mobile devices offer. The M7 motion coprocessor continuously measures your motion data, even when the device is asleep, and saves battery life for pedometer or other fitness apps that use the accelerometer all day.Alongside the M7 chip, Apple has also introduced new CoreMotion APIs that can take advantage of the M7 coprocessor to create improved fitness and activity apps that are unavailable on similar devices. The M7 coprocessor is able to measure and track all movement data, even when the phone is asleep, and because it's a secondary processor, it saves battery life while allowing pedometer-style apps to run in the background.

Nike has introduced the first new app that will take advantage of the technology. Nike+ Move is able to determine when a user is walking, driving, or stationary, and it works with the Nike Fuel movement ratings, integrating them into Game Center.

The iPhone 5s, which includes the M7 chip, will be available for purchase beginning on September 20. The phone will be priced at $199 for the 16GB version, with a 2-year contract.

Article Link: iPhone 5s Includes New 'M7' Motion Coprocessor for Health and Fitness Tracking (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/iphone-5s-includes-new-m7-motion-coprocessor-for-health-and-fitness-tracking/)



Radio
Sep 10, 2013, 01:14 PM
So apple is now taking design cues from Samsung..

What the

Lord Nerdos
Sep 10, 2013, 01:14 PM
This is very cool. Can't wait to see what the new Nike app is like. I wonder how it will compare with the Fuelband 2?

Chemeddy
Sep 10, 2013, 01:17 PM
is so going to be in the new so-called iWatch. Or iLifestyle, or iWhaeveritsgoingtobecalled.

Eduardo1971
Sep 10, 2013, 01:17 PM
Have a feeling we'll be hearing this again when the 'iWatch' is released.

HiRez
Sep 10, 2013, 01:18 PM
Sweet, so according to Motorola, I guess the iPhone is "triplecore" now. :rolleyes:

extricated
Sep 10, 2013, 01:19 PM
iWatch! Yes!

Battlefield Fan
Sep 10, 2013, 01:21 PM
All signs point towards an iWatch. I bet it comes in October...:D

bedifferent
Sep 10, 2013, 01:22 PM
This over NFC? Seriously?

dernhelm
Sep 10, 2013, 01:22 PM
The Nike App must integrate with the FuelBand.

If Apple puts out a watch, it might also integrate with that.

bedifferent
Sep 10, 2013, 01:23 PM
So apple is now taking design cues from Samsung..

What the

No, they "improve" upon them, :rolleyes:

chabig
Sep 10, 2013, 01:26 PM
This over NFC? Seriously?

Huh?

olowott
Sep 10, 2013, 01:26 PM
definitely the iWatch in a making. nice to have all these on board:cool:

rdlink
Sep 10, 2013, 01:30 PM
So apple is now taking design cues from Samsung..

What the

Yeah, because Apple started developing this two weeks ago...:rolleyes:

Blorzoga
Sep 10, 2013, 01:32 PM
As a longtime Apple fan, I'm sorry to say this was a very unimpressive keynote. At a minimum, I expected an affordable off-contract phone as anticipated but obviously the carriers have their claws deeply into Apple's hide and they weren't going to allow that to happen.

Fingerprint scanner...meh
Better camera...already good enough for a phone.
Faster processor...how fast foes it need to be, really?

I think Apple's jumped the prover ial shark with this one. They can't even control the leaks at all.

scaredpoet
Sep 10, 2013, 01:32 PM
...can tell if a user is walking, stationary or driving...

Oh boy! I can't wait for the nanny state legislators to make use of THIS one to track when people MIGHT be talking/texting while in a car. :rolleyes:

Still, I'm probably gonna wake up really early on Friday to get my preorder in...

spblat
Sep 10, 2013, 01:36 PM
I like it. Next time I put my Fitbit through the wash I may not have to get it replaced.

bedifferent
Sep 10, 2013, 01:39 PM
Huh?

I was expressing my dismay that Apple decided on this tech instead of "NFC". Many use it a lot out of North America on other devices. FFS, they had iPhone 5 prototypes w/ it, but bailed when banks didn't acquiesce to Apple's % take on NFC purchases.

Accessories do this already although they fail to properly measure stat's as the "Nike Band" should be on the ankle not the wrist (unless you're waving while you run, or partake in a lot self pleasure). Sure, it's "neat", but as a body builder and former trainer, these bands and devices don't accurately measure health and fitness progress.

Bearxor
Sep 10, 2013, 01:54 PM
Sweet, so according to Motorola, I guess the iPhone is "triplecore" now. :rolleyes:

No.

If we presume (for now) that the A7 has the same amount of CPU and GPU units as the A6, then it qualifies as a six-core CPU under motorola's logic.

2 CPU cores + 3 GPU cores + 1 Motion chip

chainprayer
Sep 10, 2013, 01:58 PM
I think Apple's jumped the prover ial shark with this one. They can't even control the leaks at all.

Your B key is broken, yo.

Razeus
Sep 10, 2013, 02:00 PM
My GS4 already has all of this.

JoeyCloverfield
Sep 10, 2013, 02:14 PM
Fingerprint scanner...meh
Better camera...already good enough for a phone.
Faster processor...how fast foes it need to be, really?

I think Apple's jumped the prover ial shark with this one. They can't even control the leaks at all.

You realize your complains aren't Apple specific right? The smartphone industry has matured. At this point, all updates/upgrades are incremental.

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My GS4 already has all of this.

The smartphone that came after the iPhone 5? Your point?

mdelvecchio
Sep 10, 2013, 02:15 PM
As a longtime Apple fan, I'm sorry to say this was a very unimpressive keynote. At a minimum, I expected an affordable off-contract phone as anticipated but obviously the carriers have their claws deeply into Apple's hide and they weren't going to allow that to happen.

Fingerprint scanner...meh
Better camera...already good enough for a phone.
Faster processor...how fast foes it need to be, really?

I think Apple's jumped the prover ial shark with this one. They can't even control the leaks at all.

1) touch ID will be awesome. ill use it 100 times a day.

2) camera can never been good enough. cell phones naturally trail behind dedicated point & shoots, but always room for improvement.

3) mobile computing will slowly replace things we think of as desktop. eventually they will sport external peripherals...so speed they can never been fast enough. think console games first

4) jumping the shark is doing something ridiculously stupid and tacky. that has not happened here.

Blorzoga
Sep 10, 2013, 02:26 PM
Your B key is broken, yo.

No, it's just too close to the space ar.

jlblodgett
Sep 10, 2013, 02:26 PM
is so going to be in the new so-called iWatch. Or iLifestyle, or iWhaeveritsgoingtobecalled.


That was the first thing I thought of when I heard about the M7 chip. Sounds like a perfect thing to stick into the iWatch.

wlossw
Sep 10, 2013, 02:27 PM
So iPhone 5s IS the iWatch. All the leaks about iwatch have been fitness related. The guy they hired from nike fuel, interest in health sensors.

I really was hoping for realtime glucose monitoring, heart rate, blood pressure, etc...

now i highly doubt it's gonna happen...

ValSalva
Sep 10, 2013, 02:54 PM
So iPhone 5s IS the iWatch. All the leaks about iwatch have been fitness related. The guy they hired from nike fuel, interest in health sensors.

I really was hoping for realtime glucose monitoring, heart rate, blood pressure, etc...

now i highly doubt it's gonna happen...

Don't lose hope, maybe next year it will be able to monitor central venous pressure and do blood gases ;) :D

VanillaCracker
Sep 10, 2013, 02:57 PM
Yeah, because Apple started developing this two weeks ago...:rolleyes:

Well Samsung came out with their health and fitness features in January. Which is a while ago at this point. They probably made it happen after Samsung's release. Considering how underwhelming the phone is, it doesn't seem like they were working on too much after that lol.

bumblebritches5
Sep 10, 2013, 03:24 PM
This over NFC? Seriously?

Who cares about NFC? **** NFC, it's a security concern, and bluetooth is just as good, and has more uses.

paulsdenton
Sep 10, 2013, 03:32 PM
The iWatch will probably do the health factors monitoring (blood pressure, etc.) and transmit same to M7 equipped iPhone, which will transmit times and performance data for display on the iWatch, while an analysis app combines it all to give an overall health status picture on the iPhone.

Anyway, that's what I'm hoping for!!!

bedifferent
Sep 10, 2013, 04:45 PM
Who cares about NFC? **** NFC, it's a security concern, and bluetooth is just as good, and has more uses.

Then you obviously are ignorant regarding NFC (especially being extremely secure, research RFID, that so-called "safe" tech included in many major credit cards as "Blink"). Many countries and individuals make use of it daily, from purchasing to controlling devices. Research a little, you would realize you are extremely incorrect.

macnisse
Sep 10, 2013, 05:03 PM
Mmmmmmm!

Xarthan
Sep 10, 2013, 05:31 PM
glad i sold my fuelband in time for this

chilp
Sep 10, 2013, 11:29 PM
So iPhone 5s IS the iWatch. All the leaks about iwatch have been fitness related. The guy they hired from nike fuel, interest in health sensors.

I really was hoping for realtime glucose monitoring, heart rate, blood pressure, etc...

now i highly doubt it's gonna happen...

agree - the watch isn't happening. the hiring of people with health sensor experience is the only solid basis for any watch.

the only other is the patents for the term 'iWatch' - but that could just as easily be a TV.

LightningIceFox
Sep 10, 2013, 11:35 PM
I say from an engineering standpoint this is a good idea. It removes time spent on the cpus and possibly higher "hardware based" timing on the actual chip components. This would result in faster apps, and lower power requirements.

I think of it as being similar to a DMA controller as far as benefits go.

MikeDTyke
Sep 11, 2013, 05:11 AM
This is as much to do with Siri in the car and their future indoor tracking technology as it has with fitness. They just aren't ready to talk about those yet.

It'll know when you are driving and have Siri simply speak to you rather than lighting up the screen and distracting you. It'll use the telemetry from this chip along with ibeacons and wifi triangulation to automatically map indoor spaces and help you find you friends or just get back to your car.

All the hate from no NFC is misplaced, in a plastic card it works fine for small payments. But apple wants to replace your credit card, keys, work pass and numerous other scenarios. That takes more than just sticking the chip and aerial into your phone, it takes partnerships.

Ugg
Sep 11, 2013, 12:52 PM
I'm looking forward to a non-battery hogging cycling app. This is gonna be big for cyclists.

Ries
Sep 12, 2013, 02:55 AM
I'm looking forward to a non-battery hogging cycling app. This is gonna be big for cyclists.

I used endomondo on a bike for 8 hours nonstop, only used 55% of the battery.

hegeman
Sep 12, 2013, 11:30 AM
My GS4 already has all of this.

But what it DOESN'T have is good battery life (considering the size of the battery). I upgraded from a GS3 to a Note II entirely for the larger battery, and it's annoying that even this freaking giant slab has to be charged sometimes to make it through the day.

So I seriously doubt that any Samsung phone has something like the M7. I've gotten used to the big screen of the Note II, but I SO wish Samsung would do the things Apple does to save power. Some guy on Apple Insider mentioned a chip that appears to do exactly what the M7 does. Maybe there are others as well (though I never heard of anything like this before). Anyway, Samsung and others can certainly do this if they want to.

Razeus
Sep 12, 2013, 03:44 PM
But what it DOESN'T have is good battery life (considering the size of the battery). I upgraded from a GS3 to a Note II entirely for the larger battery, and it's annoying that even this freaking giant slab has to be charged sometimes to make it through the day.

So I seriously doubt that any Samsung phone has something like the M7. I've gotten used to the big screen of the Note II, but I SO wish Samsung would do the things Apple does to save power. Some guy on Apple Insider mentioned a chip that appears to do exactly what the M7 does. Maybe there are others as well (though I never heard of anything like this before). Anyway, Samsung and others can certainly do this if they want to.

Battery life on my phone gets me through the day, but then again, I'm not jacking with it all day. Probably mid-morning, lunch, mid-afternoon is when I check stuff, and I listen to podcasts/music for much of the day. I will admit, an hour before I leave the office, I put it on the charger, and then that gets me through to the next morning.

I think Apple really missed the boat here. The lack of a 1080p screen and a bigger, proper ratio for a screen when all of your competitors are doing so is pretty bizarre. At least give it a 720p. It's no wonder they had to revamp the look of iOS 7 to draw the oohs and awws. Unfortunately, the icon designs are inconsistent and everything is much too colorful. A user chosen color scheme would have been nice to add.

bumblebritches5
Sep 14, 2013, 12:58 AM
Then you obviously are ignorant regarding NFC (especially being extremely secure, research RFID, that so-called "safe" tech included in many major credit cards as "Blink"). Many countries and individuals make use of it daily, from purchasing to controlling devices. Research a little, you would realize you are extremely incorrect.

No, NFC is a waste of time and energy, you want NFC? get a Faildroid.

ahsmartinc
Jan 1, 2014, 12:57 PM
This free app leverages the M7 motion sensor. Features include:
- Display daily/weekly walking history
- Display last 7 day chart
- Set up personal goals
- Progress reminder
- Stay up-to-date with news about walking healthy
- Use metrics or US Customary unit