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knighthorus
Sep 10, 2013, 11:27 PM
I am the one have iPhone 5 and I really love it, compare to my friendís Galaxy S4Ö
iPhone 5, a device in its simplicity but also very swift and light on its feet, while the Galaxy S4, which with a bigger screen and a steady barrage of features.
I purchased iPhone5 because of its design. The polished chamfered edges, precision- cut speakers and even the button feel are all pretty much perfect. It is also easy to use with one hand, whereas the Galaxy S4 can be a stretch to reach across the screen with your thumb.

I appreciate the removable back cover on the Galaxy S4 and how light it is given its large display, but the iPhone 5 offers a far more elegant design.

About battery life, Itís a good thing the Galaxy S4′s battery is replaceable, but its 2,600 mAh battery hasnít impressed. While continuous Web surfing over 4G LTE on 40 percent brightness, the Sprint version of the S4 lasted 5 hours and 49 minutes.

Then I do the same test on my iPhone 5, saw 7 hours and 13 minutes of endurance, or more than an hour longer. Although iPhone 5 doesnít have a removable battery, there are at least a half dozen battery extender cases available for us.

S4 features a Drama Shot Mode for action shots, an Eraser Mode for eradicating photo bombers and a Dual Shot Mode for using the front and back cameras at the same time, great for inserting yourself in a picture postcard. Easy to switch camera modes.

However in terms of photo quality, the iPhone 5 impressed me more. Although its camera offers less resolution than the Galaxy S4, I found that S4 blew out details that the iPhone 5 is able to picke up, such as the darker flecks in the stone at the front edge of the fountain, as well as where the water drops landed. The iPhoneís shot also offered better contrast.

In general, I still love my iPhone5, though my friend shrug at meÖ



juswest
Sep 10, 2013, 11:30 PM
Such an informative post.

UBS28
Sep 10, 2013, 11:35 PM
Your iPhone 5 may last 1 hour longer, but consider that even the Samsung Galaxy S3 is faster than an iPhone 5(c) and has a much larger screen.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/18/samsung-galaxy-s-4-benchmarks-nearly-twice-as-fast-as-iphone-5/

Apple has been selling outdated hardware and they keep doing it with the plastic iPhone 5(c) against the premium prices of flagship phones.

The Game 161
Sep 10, 2013, 11:37 PM
if the iphone 5 suits your needs better then thats your choice but to me the only positive over the S4 for my needs is the design and that doesn't matter all that much to me as it's what's inside and what the phones is what matters most to me.

OceanView
Sep 10, 2013, 11:43 PM
Keep drinking the Koolaid OP.

MacRumorUser
Sep 11, 2013, 03:14 AM
There is no real areas of conjecture in the op's post only basic personal preferences which are all legitimate for them.

Personally battery life is about the same on both devices for me, and the iPhone 5 and S4 both have great cameras.

But for me I prefer the bigger screen now and for that reason alone I could not go back to the iPhone until they release a bigger screen version.

I do think Samsung came out with great features with the S4 such as the S-View covers, which are far more useful to me than many of the silly gesture type gimmicks they baked into their OS. Wireless charging (despite extra cost) is very handy to have too.

Dreamliner330
Sep 11, 2013, 03:49 AM
I'm no fan of the S4 (lag/stutter, signal, PenTile)...interestingly enough...the Motorola X is an amazing device that could easily compete with iPhone if they market it better.

The Moto X is compact, ergonomic and the smoothest Android phone I've ever used.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 11, 2013, 03:49 AM
Design of a phone is something I look at when buying a phone.

Main points are ....... Does it look pleasing to the eye? Does it feel good in my hand? Is it solid? Button placement and quality of display/screen.

I'm not into the finer details of plastic vs metal, or the small subtle details of design.









I purchased iPhone5 because of its design. The polished chamfered edges, precision- cut speakers and even the button feel are all pretty much perfect.

Although nice and to each their own, this is exactly what I don't care about nor would I ever describe any phone as if reading from the Apple site.










About battery life, Itís a good thing the Galaxy S4′s battery is replaceable, but its 2,600 mAh battery hasnít impressed. While continuous Web surfing over 4G LTE on 40 percent brightness, the Sprint version of the S4 lasted 5 hours and 49 minutes.

Then I do the same test on my iPhone 5, saw 7 hours and 13 minutes of endurance, or more than an hour longer. Although iPhone 5 doesnít have a removable battery, there are at least a half dozen battery extender cases available for us.



Just like they said OSX is NOT Windows, the same applies as Android is NOT iOS. You said it was your friend's phone, so I doubt you disabled anything. My S4 battery life is excellent with usage and standby, but if you don't disable some unneeded carrier and manufacturer bloat, battery life can suffer.

rockitdog
Sep 12, 2013, 10:59 PM
I'm no fan of the S4 (lag/stutter, signal, PenTile)...interestingly enough...the Motorola X is an amazing device that could easily compete with iPhone if they market it better.

The Moto X is compact, ergonomic and the smoothest Android phone I've ever used.

unfortunately the camera is complete doo-doo!

tonie
Sep 12, 2013, 11:20 PM
stop feeding the troll!!! look at registration date!!!

swpars
Sep 13, 2013, 12:00 AM
Your iPhone 5 may last 1 hour longer, but consider that even the Samsung Galaxy S3 is faster than an iPhone 5(c)

I have an S3 and I seriously doubt the veracity of that statement. My phone feels like a laggy piece of ***** compared to an iPhone 5 which has similar specs to a 5C.

mKTank
Sep 13, 2013, 01:20 AM
We don't need a thread every time somebody has a brain fart. Nobody cares what you think is better.

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I have an S3 and I seriously doubt the veracity of that statement. My phone feels like a laggy piece of ***** compared to an iPhone 5 which has similar specs to a 5C.

That's because you're probably running Touchpiss instead of rooting it like a real man.

matttye
Sep 13, 2013, 01:45 AM
Your iPhone 5 may last 1 hour longer, but consider that even the Samsung Galaxy S3 is faster than an iPhone 5(c) and has a much larger screen.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/18/samsung-galaxy-s-4-benchmarks-nearly-twice-as-fast-as-iphone-5/

Apple has been selling outdated hardware and they keep doing it with the plastic iPhone 5(c) against the premium prices of flagship phones.

The S3 might be faster on paper (from one benchmark) but its definitely not in use. Note that it only scores slightly higher with double the cores too.

Such benchmarks would only be relevant if they ran the same OS.

adder7712
Sep 13, 2013, 02:11 AM
My phone lasts longer than my parent's iPhone 5 because mine doesn't support LTE. Not sure how LTE is a battery drainer on the iPhone 5.

robot007
Sep 13, 2013, 06:59 AM
Personally, I find GalaxyS4 to be more my style. However, if I was in a field where the iPhone had superior apps, I would switch to it. I don't think anything would be more frustrating than having a big, fast phone that doesn't have the apps I need.

samcraig
Sep 13, 2013, 07:23 AM
I used my GS4 yesterday pretty extensively. Not to watch videos. But I shot several pictures, have three email accounts with heavy activity, etc.

Unplugged at 6am, when I went to bed, I was at 59%. "good" or "bad" is irrelevant to me with those #s because I can use my phone the way I want and need to without recharging. Much better battery life than I got with my Skyrocket IIs. And so far, much better battery life I was getting with my iPhone. YMMV

swpars
Sep 13, 2013, 08:35 AM
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That's because you're probably running Touchpiss instead of rooting it like a real man.

Nova Launcher. And I shouldn't have to void my phone's warranty by rooting it to make it run correctly.

jamezr
Sep 13, 2013, 09:13 AM
I am the one have iPhone 5 and I really love it, compare to my friendís Galaxy S4Ö
iPhone 5, a device in its simplicity but also very swift and light on its feet, while the Galaxy S4, which with a bigger screen and a steady barrage of features.
I purchased iPhone5 because of its design. The polished chamfered edges, precision- cut speakers and even the button feel are all pretty much perfect. It is also easy to use with one hand, whereas the Galaxy S4 can be a stretch to reach across the screen with your thumb.

I appreciate the removable back cover on the Galaxy S4 and how light it is given its large display, but the iPhone 5 offers a far more elegant design.

About battery life, Itís a good thing the Galaxy S4′s battery is replaceable, but its 2,600 mAh battery hasnít impressed. While continuous Web surfing over 4G LTE on 40 percent brightness, the Sprint version of the S4 lasted 5 hours and 49 minutes.

Then I do the same test on my iPhone 5, saw 7 hours and 13 minutes of endurance, or more than an hour longer. Although iPhone 5 doesnít have a removable battery, there are at least a half dozen battery extender cases available for us.

S4 features a Drama Shot Mode for action shots, an Eraser Mode for eradicating photo bombers and a Dual Shot Mode for using the front and back cameras at the same time, great for inserting yourself in a picture postcard. Easy to switch camera modes.

However in terms of photo quality, the iPhone 5 impressed me more. Although its camera offers less resolution than the Galaxy S4, I found that S4 blew out details that the iPhone 5 is able to picke up, such as the darker flecks in the stone at the front edge of the fountain, as well as where the water drops landed. The iPhoneís shot also offered better contrast.

In general, I still love my iPhone5, though my friend shrug at meÖ

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This thread and all the others like it....offer nothing.....

Dmaynard83
Sep 13, 2013, 10:14 AM
I have a s4 and I came from a note 2 which I got by trading my iPhone 5.

Ill say feature wise the s4 blows it out of the park. But as far as smoothness the iPhone wins. I just think iOS is a much smoother operating system, I had to root my s4 with cyanogenmod to reach the same smoothness

Jibbajabba
Sep 13, 2013, 10:26 AM
stop feeding the troll!!! look at registration date!!!

This is MacRumors - people will never stop feeding the troll but rather keep going in circles until you are dizzy ... (or turn into a troll themselves)

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I had to root my s4 with cyanogenmod to reach the same smoothness

Sure, if you don't mind force closes ..

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 13, 2013, 10:27 AM
I have a s4 and I came from a note 2 which I got by trading my iPhone 5.

Ill say feature wise the s4 blows it out of the park. But as far as smoothness the iPhone wins. I just think iOS is a much smoother operating system, I had to root my s4 with cyanogenmod to reach the same smoothness


That's like saying automatic is smoother than manual. Give iOS users as much control and options as Android users have and watch the smoothness fade away.

Personally I'm impressed with my S4. I have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, 3 differ email apps running, and I'm not on any powersaving mode. Very rarely do I get any hiccup or lag. And I'm on stock touchwiz.

daveathall
Sep 13, 2013, 10:32 AM
I had an S3 and an iPhone 5 at the same time, I sold the iP5 because I favoured the S3, I sold that because I favoured the S4. :)

Jibbajabba
Sep 13, 2013, 10:37 AM
That's like saying automatic is smoother than manual. Give iOS users as much control and options as Android users have and watch the smoothness fade away.

Personally I'm impressed with my S4. I have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, 3 differ email apps running, and I'm not on any powersaving mode. Very rarely do I get any hiccup or lag. And I'm on stock touchwiz.

Yea - the S4 is great. Sometimes I think people saying it lags just for the sake of saying it ..

mKTank
Sep 13, 2013, 11:35 AM
Nova Launcher. And I shouldn't have to void my phone's warranty by rooting it to make it run correctly.

Touchwiz isn't just a launcher. Sadly with the GSIII, that's pretty much what you have to do. It's a slow POS because of Samsung's horrible software. It absolutely flies with a custom AOSP or TW-less ROM.

Good thing HTC supports the rooting crowd. Putting custom ROMs on my One doesn't void anything.

Dontazemebro
Sep 13, 2013, 12:01 PM
Yea - the S4 is great. Sometimes I think people saying it lags just for the sake of saying it ..

Nope it does occasionally lag and or stutter but it's not as bad as it was prior to the latest update (for me Sprint MF9 update). Although of late, I've seen more stuttering when scrolling through the call log list.

I've only owned a 4 and 4S as my ios devices but I've owned a plethora of android devices since cupcake and I can tell you that ios is just smoother than android. I MO android is faster but iOS is smoother.

MacRumorUser
Sep 13, 2013, 03:22 PM
Nope it does occasionally lag and or stutter but it's not as bad as it was prior to the latest update (for me Sprint MF9 update). Although of late, I've seen more stuttering when scrolling through the call log list.

I've only owned a 4 and 4S as my ios devices but I've owned a plethora of android devices since cupcake and I can tell you that ios is just smoother than android. I MO android is faster but iOS is smoother.

Yeah sadly it does. The difference in speed and responsiveness when going to a GE Rom and coming back to Touchwiz is really evident.

When I'm running a GE ROM the phone is consistently silky smooth, very fast and always responsive. I have never had an app force close when running GE 4.2.2 or 4.3. On Touchwiz, Google play music often crashes for me especially if I'm taking out my phone from its s-view pouch. Likewise it occasionally freezes or becomes unresponsive for a couple of seconds too. I have noticed a massive difference in memory usage between ROMs too with Touchwiz often using 500mb more at any stage than GE Rom.

I'm hoping the Note 3 with faster processor and more memory will solve the touchwiz issues for good.

mKTank
Sep 13, 2013, 04:08 PM
Buying a GE version of the phone solves the Touchpiss issues.

verpeiler
Sep 13, 2013, 04:25 PM
I am the one have iPhone 5 and I really love it, compare to my friendís Galaxy S4Ö
iPhone 5, a device in its simplicity but also very swift and light on its feet, while the Galaxy S4, which with a bigger screen and a steady barrage of features. blablabla

Well, then better compare the 5(S) to the HTC ONE. Nice design (fits good to MacBooks), no lag or stutter like in touchwiz, good battery life, better screen (no AMOLED). And I really like the dark theme from Sense 5.

Sure, the camera is debatable, but it's completely fine for me.. most people talk so much about smartphone cameras but never took a good picture in their life.

Dontazemebro
Sep 13, 2013, 04:51 PM
Yeah sadly it does. The difference in speed and responsiveness when going to a GE Rom and coming back to Touchwiz is really evident.

When I'm running a GE ROM the phone is consistently silky smooth, very fast and always responsive. I have never had an app force close when running GE 4.2.2 or 4.3. On Touchwiz, Google play music often crashes for me especially if I'm taking out my phone from its s-view pouch. Likewise it occasionally freezes or becomes unresponsive for a couple of seconds too. I have noticed a massive difference in memory usage between ROMs too with Touchwiz often using 500mb more at any stage than GE Rom.

I'm hoping the Note 3 with faster processor and more memory will solve the touchwiz issues for good.

I've yet to use a GE rom mainly because ports hardly ever play nice with CDMA devices (though I've heard good things on this front) but also because I actually do use quite a few of the s-features. Touchwiz does have its merits but at this point I can't say optimization is one of them.

MacRumorUser
Sep 13, 2013, 05:43 PM
I've yet to use a GE rom mainly because ports hardly ever play nice with CDMA devices (though I've heard good things on this front) but also because I actually do use quite a few of the s-features. Touchwiz does have its merits but at this point I can't say optimization is one of them.

Yeah its the optimising part that let's it down. If they spent as much time optimising what they have as they do on new features it would be far better for the end user.

Though must say Touchwiz does bring a lot of decent power saving battery optimisations in that are not in play with a Google ROM.

lazard
Sep 13, 2013, 06:00 PM
Yeah its the optimising part that let's it down. If they spent as much time optimising what they have as they do on new features it would be far better for the end user.

Though must say Touchwiz does bring a lot of decent power saving battery optimisations in that are not in play with a Google ROM.

yeah stock touchwiz is not that great. However, custom TW roms like GoldenEye are amazing in terms of responsiveness and battery life.

Dontazemebro
Sep 13, 2013, 06:17 PM
yeah stock touchwiz is not that great. However, custom TW roms like GoldenEye are amazing in terms of responsiveness and battery life.

Is that one carrier specific?

I've loaded a few debloated TW roms but still came away less than impressed.

Truefan31
Sep 13, 2013, 06:22 PM
Well the gs4 came out what 9 months after the iPhone 5 so it should be "newer" spec wise. I think iOS is just more efficient than android overall. 4 or 8 cores, 2 gb ram and this phone still lags? I guess because of the overlays phone manufacturers put on android, but again that goes to the fragmentation part. As long as this happens (and it won't stop soon) iOS will always be a smoother os. Yes rooting and/or google editions can give better results, but I'm talking out of the box experiences.

I like the big specs of the android phones, it's impressive but I feel like its needed to do the things you want on the phone. 2600 mah on the gs4, yet the iPhone 5 battery life is comparable at 1400 mah? That's almost half the capacity. Lol if iPhone had a 2600 mah battery, it'd last for days on end.

appleisking
Sep 13, 2013, 07:59 PM
We don't need a thread every time somebody has a brain fart. Nobody cares what you think is better.

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That's because you're probably running Touchpiss instead of rooting it like a real man.

So what are threads for if not to express what you're thinking about? :rolleyes: I think that also speaks to how bad the device is given its stock software is so ****** as you claim. Not everyone cares or has time to tinker their devices down to the motherboard. It's pretty sad that to get a good experience on the phone, that you have to root it.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 13, 2013, 08:11 PM
So what are threads for if not to express what you're thinking about? :rolleyes: I think that also speaks to how bad the device is given its stock software is so ****** as you claim. Not everyone cares or has time to tinker their devices down to the motherboard. It's pretty sad that to get a good experience on the phone, that you have to root it.

The thing is you don't. I had a good experience with the S3 and now with the S4 when stock Touchwiz non rooted. Only reason I rooted the S3 and installed custom firmware was cause I can. Only reason I'm now rooted on my S4 with stock is cause I can. Not because I'm missing anything, but simply for the ability to have even more options and customization. And mostly stuff I didn't even know I wanted to do until I was able to.

Now with the iPhone, I always would Jailbreak cause I felt I had to. Just to many things I wanted to do that was restricted. This also made me dread updating before a latest jailbreak release. I know you and everyone else has already heard many iPhone users say "If it wasn't for jailbreaking I would have been switched". I've never heard an Android user say they would switch if they couldn't root.

mKTank
Sep 13, 2013, 10:52 PM
So what are threads for if not to express what you're thinking about? :rolleyes: I think that also speaks to how bad the device is given its stock software is so ****** as you claim. Not everyone cares or has time to tinker their devices down to the motherboard. It's pretty sad that to get a good experience on the phone, that you have to root it.

Yep. That's why I have an HTC One and refuse to buy into Samsung's phones which seem to translate to one horrible decision after the next. Both on a hardware and software level. Whereas HTC just seems much more experienced with the choices they make. Aside from that weird camera.

The Game 161
Sep 14, 2013, 05:47 AM
Yep. That's why I have an HTC One and refuse to buy into Samsung's phones which seem to translate to one horrible decision after the next. Both on a hardware and software level. Whereas HTC just seems much more experienced with the choices they make. Aside from that weird camera.

Lol HTC have made one dependable phone.. The current one. Their track record is poor.

lsutigerfan1976
Sep 14, 2013, 08:12 AM
Lol HTC have made one dependable phone.. The current one. Their track record is poor.

I would have to say that switching between iphone and android phones. HTC has always in the past and now. Been the most reliable stable android phone for me. I think the difference is one the way HTC manages the company leaves alot to be desired. And two the marketing that Samsung and Apple does, is much better than HTC. So obviously most people will perceive that HTC is inferior than other droids, or the iphone. But essentially what i am saying is HTC is not as bad as people say they are.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 14, 2013, 09:22 AM
I would have to say that switching between iphone and android phones. HTC has always in the past and now. Been the most reliable stable android phone for me. I think the difference is one the way HTC manages the company leaves alot to be desired. And two the marketing that Samsung and Apple does, is much better than HTC. So obviously most people will perceive that HTC is inferior than other droids, or the iphone. But essentially what i am saying is HTC is not as bad as people say they are.

If HTC made the One with a sd slot, I would have given it a try over the S4 since I already had a S3 and like trying new things. But HTC since the Windows Mobile days, has always been known to skimp out on something that sways many potential consumers elsewhere. That and poor battery life on most previous phones has earned HTC a mediocre rep.

Timely7
Sep 14, 2013, 10:12 AM
Dude i even think that iPhone 4S is better than galaxy s4... I own a 4S and it feels much more premium than the galaxy s4

mKTank
Sep 14, 2013, 10:30 AM
Lol HTC have made one dependable phone.. The current one. Their track record is poor.

The G1 (the phone that started it all), the Hero, the Droid Eris, the Droid Incredible, the Wildfire, the Desire, the Nexus One, the EVO 4G (!!), the Desire HD, the Sensation, the EVO 3D, and finally the One have been all incredibly iconic and great phones for their time. Much better than Samsung who only started getting decent around the SII. Before that it was all kinds of issues like terrible built quality (they haven't fixed this issue yet, all their latest phones are still about as solid as silicon implants) and GPS problems, not to mention the dreadful overuse of PenTile in almost everything they shipped.

I'm sorry, but either you're new to Android and are unaware of the massive legacy that HTC has (and damaged with their previous generation of One X phones which were not that great, which is why Samsung is so popular now) or you're just ignorant as hell and frankly talking a bit from your rear. Do some research before you make any more filthy comments about arguably the most dedicated Android phone manufacturer by a long shot.

Vetvito
Sep 14, 2013, 10:45 AM
@MkTank I'm sorry but did you mention the EVO 3D as being iconic?

mKTank
Sep 14, 2013, 11:04 AM
@MkTank I'm sorry but did you mention the EVO 3D as being iconic?

Yes. It was a very good phone for its time. The 3D was a gimmick but that aside, it was amazingly well built.

The Game 161
Sep 14, 2013, 01:57 PM
The G1 (the phone that started it all), the Hero, the Droid Eris, the Droid Incredible, the Wildfire, the Desire, the Nexus One, the EVO 4G (!!), the Desire HD, the Sensation, the EVO 3D, and finally the One have been all incredibly iconic and great phones for their time. Much better than Samsung who only started getting decent around the SII. Before that it was all kinds of issues like terrible built quality (they haven't fixed this issue yet, all their latest phones are still about as solid as silicon implants) and GPS problems, not to mention the dreadful overuse of PenTile in almost everything they shipped.

I'm sorry, but either you're new to Android and are unaware of the massive legacy that HTC has (and damaged with their previous generation of One X phones which were not that great, which is why Samsung is so popular now) or you're just ignorant as hell and frankly talking a bit from your rear. Do some research before you make any more filthy comments about arguably the most dedicated Android phone manufacturer by a long shot.

I'm going by personal experience my friend.

All HTC phones have been shocking for me.

Technarchy
Sep 14, 2013, 02:34 PM
Yes. It was a very good phone for its time. The 3D was a gimmick but that aside, it was amazingly well built.

Iconic though? The first Evo sure, but all after, not even close.

Dontazemebro
Sep 14, 2013, 03:25 PM
If HTC made the One with a sd slot, I would have given it a try over the S4 since I already had a S3 and like trying new things. But HTC since the Windows Mobile days, has always been known to skimp out on something that sways many potential consumers elsewhere. That and poor battery life on most previous phones has earned HTC a mediocre rep.

+1

I'm probably what you would call an avid HTC user. I started with HTC back in the old hackable win mo days which is what most likely endeared me to them when they pioneered Android back with TMO.

I have owned almost every iteration of their devices (although the HD2 will always hold a step higher than the rest.) they are always my preferred "go-to" android handset maker. I had the OG G1, the mytouch, the crappy mytouch 4G, nexus 1, inspire, one x, one x+ (the s&itty tegra version) ............ but why not the One?

Nope I got a GS4 instead because even though as a loyal htc follower I know the problems that plague them will never change. HTC does not listen to the consumer, they are a cheap, filthy whore who will get in bed with the highest bidder at the drop of a dime. Did I mention they have no loyalty to their customers? If it's not abandoned devices, it's poor RF receptions in their radios or horribly recessed power/volume buttons, or ridiculously bad battery life on most their devices (any poor thunderbolt owners?), or lack of true SD support when you were the company who almost gaddam invented it (not literally invent for those of slower mental capacity). What else am I missing. Oh yeah, it's no sort of customer support whatsoever, it's crazy chaos with no real order or focus in mind. One minute you're a developer leg humping friendly company with bootloaders open galore. The next you're locked down tighter than Ft Knox, following design cues of a certain fruit company. Who are you HTC? What is your identity? And need I even mention updates?

Sorry, I just couldn't do another HTC device. I mean i still do love their craftsmanship, their lcd screens are awesome and what not but I choose the GS4 because Samsung actually listens to what the consumers want no matter how outlandish it may seem.

Want a 5" octo core bezel free beast with SD card support and removable battery?

SAMSUNG is like Jay Z ......... F*ckwithmeyouknowigotit

[/mini rant]

SA Spyder
Sep 14, 2013, 07:14 PM
I'm going by personal experience my friend.

All HTC phones have been shocking for me.

Well fortunately your experience isn't representative of anything even close to fact.

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Iconic though? The first Evo sure, but all after, not even close.

The EVO 3D was an excellent phone if you ignored the 3D aspect. And it was iconic for being a worthy successor to the 4G.