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MacRumors
Sep 11, 2013, 10:06 AM
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The UK carrier Three (http://three.co.uk)*has announced that it will begin its 4G LTE rollout in four major UK cities starting in December of this year, with a further 42 cities due to be added by the end of 2014. According to its website (http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting?site=d), London, Birmingham (including the surrounding West Midlands), Manchester, and Reading will receive 4G coverage by the end of the year. Unlike other British carriers, Three is not charging a premium for its 4G services, as long as customers have compatible devices.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/09/Screen-Shot-2013-09-11-at-13.23.57.jpg
Customers who have compatible devices (Three's 4G network will work on the 800 MHz and 1,800 MHz frequencies on LTE bands 3 and 20) will be automatically upgraded with no extra fees. The carrier is also notable for being the only UK operator to offer truly unlimited mobile data with no exceptions, dubbed 'all-you-can-eat data' by the company.

Three already claims the fastest 3G network in the UK due to the implementation of HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA technology, which allow theoretical browsing speeds of up to 6 and 12 Mbps respectively. The company claims its 4G network will allow browsing speeds of up to 14 Mbps, which although is almost five times faster than standard 3G speeds, it still puts it behind the leader EE, which has doubled its LTE browsing speeds in several UK cities, allowing for theoretical browsing of up to 60 Mbps.

Three, along with the other British carriers EE, O2 and Vodafone, will all support LTE browsing on the new iPhone 5c (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/apple-announces-colorful-new-iphone-5c-starting-at-99-on-two-year-contract/) and iPhone 5s (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/apple-announces-iphone-5s/), both of which were announced yesterday at Apple's iPhone event in Cupertino, California. Both devices are compatible with the 800 MHz and 2,600 MHz frequencies, which were unsupported by the iPhone 5. Both O2 (http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone) and Vodafone (http://www.vodafone.co.uk/iphone/register-5s/index.htm) now allow customers to register their interest for the new devices, which are due to be released next week.

Article Link: Three Announces 4G Rollout Plan in Four UK Cities (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/11/three-announces-4g-rollout-plan-in-four-uk-cities/)



JarScott
Sep 11, 2013, 10:09 AM
So are 4G and LTE the same thing? When we're connected will it say 4G or LTE in the corner? What's the difference? Really good on Three to do this. After EE monopolised the market and ripped people off, it's a breath of fresh air to see a network which just wants to give its customers the best. Three has always been really great value.

JaySoul
Sep 11, 2013, 10:16 AM
I went into a 3 Store yesterday and asked about this.

He said that there wouldn't be 4G until December, but right now they were running "3.9G speeds".

I might give it a try in January, but right now I'm pretty content with my unlimited 3G. I streamed the entire Apple Media Event last night on 3G with only one or two buffering slow downs!

jroadley
Sep 11, 2013, 10:30 AM
I get 23mb 3G speed in my nearest city.

Don't forget Three won't charge any extra for 4G plans.

that means if you are on the One Plan - true unlimited data AND tethering.

SimonTheSoundMa
Sep 11, 2013, 10:30 AM
Great news; but what the hell is with service providers and their obsession with Cats?
A dig at O2.

You obviously missed their marketing teams on Twitter.

#DancePonyDance

dark knight
Sep 11, 2013, 10:35 AM
In the south east, Vodafone can't even manage 2G most of the time. I long for the time when i see a 3G symbol on my iPhone.

Xenc
Sep 11, 2013, 10:36 AM
So are 4G and LTE the same thing? When we're connected will it say 4G or LTE in the corner? What's the difference?

LTE is a type of 4G connection, and is the current gold standard. US providers have incorrectly used the term "4G" for the past few years whilst marketing faster types of 3G.

LTE will be displayed as the connection type.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Tech/2012/0430/4G-LTE-What-s-the-difference

Sabenth
Sep 11, 2013, 10:36 AM
Not that i am in a rush to have 4g i can not upgrade untill november with 3 but it comes across as a slow process to get 4g rolled out. The propper plus side to this is that it will still be unlimited data which at times is much faster than my broadbrand speeds so i am looking foward to this when it dose hit my home city

DanTheAppleMan
Sep 11, 2013, 10:37 AM
Three have certainly stepped up their game over the last few years.
I don't use my phone enough to warrant paying out for a contract so I am on their PAYG plan. It costs me 1p per MB for data and at fantastic speeds with incredibly good signal, and to add LTE at no extra cost is a fantastic move and one I'll be very pleased to see.
Even their customer support is excellent now!

ohenriquez
Sep 11, 2013, 10:38 AM
I like cats and have 2 beautiful selfish cats that come to me from time to time.

jonnyb
Sep 11, 2013, 10:39 AM
Three's own speed estimates seem rather conservative. I just did a speed test in London on my iPad 4 on 3G and got 17.43Mbps down. That's more than they're estimating for LTE. Presumably these are averages?

peterh988
Sep 11, 2013, 10:43 AM
Three's own speed estimates seem rather conservative. I just did a speed test in London on my iPad 4 on 3G and got 17.43Mbps down. That's more than they're estimating for LTE. Presumably these are averages?

Yep, there's a tweet from customer services saying those numbers are what they consider will be average speeds, not top speed.

DOSNET
Sep 11, 2013, 10:46 AM
Wow. It's about time you guys got LTE. :p

mikeb71
Sep 11, 2013, 10:47 AM
According to Three's website, the iPhone 5 is listed as '4G ready', but the article says that it doesn't support the flavour of 4G that they're going to be using....or am I missing something?

pnjman
Sep 11, 2013, 10:52 AM
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The UK carrier Three (http://three.co.uk)*has announced that it will begin its 4G LTE rollout in four major UK cities starting in December of this year, with a further 42 cities due to be added by the end of 2014. According to its website (http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting?site=d), London, Birmingham (including the surrounding West Midlands), Manchester, and Reading will receive 4G coverage by the end of the year. Unlike other British carriers, Three is not charging a premium for its 4G services, as long as customers have compatible devices.

Image (http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/09/Screen-Shot-2013-09-11-at-13.23.57.jpg)
Customers who have compatible devices (Three's 4G network will work on the 800 MHz and 2,600 MHz frequencies on LTE bands 3 and 20) will be automatically upgraded with no extra fees. The carrier is also notable for being the only UK operator to offer truly unlimited mobile data with no exceptions, dubbed 'all-you-can-eat data' by the company.

Three already claims the fastest 3G network in the UK due to the implementation of HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA technology, which allow theoretical browsing speeds of up to 6 and 12 Mbps respectively. The company claims its 4G network will allow browsing speeds of up to 14 Mbps, which although is almost five times faster than standard 3G speeds, it still puts it behind the leader EE, which has doubled its LTE browsing speeds in several UK cities, allowing for theoretical browsing of up to 60 Mbps.

Three, along with the other British carriers EE, O2 and Vodafone, will all support LTE browsing on the new iPhone 5c (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/apple-announces-colorful-new-iphone-5c-starting-at-99-on-two-year-contract/) and iPhone 5s (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/apple-announces-iphone-5s/), both of which were announced yesterday at Apple's iPhone event in Cupertino, California. Both devices are compatible with the 800 MHz and 2,600 MHz frequencies, which were unsupported by the iPhone 5. Both O2 (http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone) and Vodafone (http://www.vodafone.co.uk/iphone/register-5s/index.htm) now allow customers to register their interest for the new devices, which are due to be released next week.

Article Link: Three Announces 4G Rollout Plan in Four UK Cities (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/11/three-announces-4g-rollout-plan-in-four-uk-cities/)

I was under the impression that the iPhone 5 was supported on 3? :confused:

Chrjy
Sep 11, 2013, 10:52 AM
In the south east, Vodafone can't even manage 2G most of the time. I long for the time when i see a 3G symbol on my iPhone.

Not sure where you are in the SE but I have never not had a 3G connection wherever I go in the SE, it's the very reason I have just signed another 24 month contract with them.

I tried all the other providers which were okay but it was hit and miss with signal coverage and Three was my last ditch attempt at getting something reasonably decent and even then I didn't hold out much hope...never looked back since, not only that their offers dump all over the other networks!

The only place I didn't get a very good signal was in my house but that was the same with all the other networks I tried, the only difference being was when I explained this to Three they sent me a Home Signal box and I now have 5 bars wherever I am in the house.

Shaun, UK
Sep 11, 2013, 10:56 AM
According to Three's website, the iPhone 5 is listed as '4G ready', but the article says that it doesn't support the flavour of 4G that they're going to be using....or am I missing something?

Reading the other Mac websites that has been clarified. Apparently the iPhone 5S & 5C will support all 4 major networks in the UK (EE, O2, 3, Vodafone). Not sure about older models.

brandscill
Sep 11, 2013, 10:56 AM
I was under the impression that the iPhone 5 was supported on 3? :confused:

As was I!

From their twitter team https://twitter.com/threeuk/status/374852445861871616

Shaun, UK
Sep 11, 2013, 10:59 AM
I'm planning to replace my Sky home broadband with this from 3 once we get 4G in my home town mainly because Sky broadband is so effing slow. Might as well save myself £15/mth and get a faster speed by simply tethering their unlimited data plan through my iPhone to my Mac. Can't wait. :D

mute-posting
Sep 11, 2013, 11:18 AM
Great news; but what the hell is with service providers and their obsession with Cats?

Other than the fact they are as selfish as the creatures themselves.

I assume a tongue-in-cheek reference to other UK networks "insisting they know" what customers want (crappy data allowance but unlimited x,y,z)

Three basically turned around and said "it's your data, use it for what you want, if that is watching cat videos, so be it."

Tom2893
Sep 11, 2013, 11:25 AM
Only 14mbps on 4G? I thought it was like 50-100 on 4G. Also at this second I'm getting 1.5mbps on Three's 3G lol.

vmistery
Sep 11, 2013, 11:32 AM
It's worth noting 3 did say the speeds are averages and not top speeds. They probably are doing themselves a disservice by trying to be honest. Vodafone seem incapable of giving me a decent speed even on 3G at the moment so Inmay even give 3 a punt, especially as I don't really want to spends loads extra on a 4G prove plan when there is little 4G around at the moment. Also they bought some EE spectrum at 1800mhz and so will theoretically be able to support the iPhone 5 on 4G should they wish. I know they got some 800Mhz too. Their key issue may be lack of spectrum however if they keep growing fast.


Link for 1800mhz
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/three-buys-part-of-everything-everywhere-s-4g-ready-spectrum-1092985

800mhz
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/4g-and-lte-everything-you-need-to-know-926835

McScooby
Sep 11, 2013, 11:56 AM
lifted from three's price guide:

"All you can eat data – what is it all about?
All you can eat data provides for worry free Internet use. Even if you used your phone for every minute of every
day you could only use, subject to TrafficSenseTM, around 1000GB each month. A usage cap has been set at a 1000GB in order for example to identify commercial use of the service, which is not permitted under the Terms for Three Services.
All-you-can-eat data is part of our Ultimate Internet Plan, The One Plan and our All in One 15 or All in One 25 Add-ons on Pay As You Go. It’s also part of some Talk and Text plans. It gives you all the internet use you need when you’re in the UK without the fear of “bill shock”. With all-you-can-eat data there are no hidden “fair use policies”. For international data roaming costs – please visit the roaming section of our website or page 23 in this Price Guide.
Charges for used, damaged or missing devices or accessories.
1. If you return your deivce to us under our returns policy with missing or damaged accessories, you will be charged as follows:"


I was sold the One Plan last year with all the "yes sir, all you can eat", only when I pushed the sales person did they say it had a 80GB soft cap.

Unlimited? That's what the home fibre's for TB's to your heart's content!!

mikeb71
Sep 11, 2013, 11:58 AM
I'm planning to replace my Sky home broadband with this from 3 once we get 4G in my home town mainly because Sky broadband is so effing slow. Might as well save myself £15/mth and get a faster speed by simply tethering their unlimited data plan through my iPhone to my Mac. Can't wait. :D
You won't get tethering for £15 per month unless they've changed their policy.

barnesy99
Sep 11, 2013, 12:08 PM
You won't get tethering for £15 per month unless they've changed their policy.

The One Plan on Three is £15 a month which includes tethering

mikeb71
Sep 11, 2013, 12:10 PM
The One Plan on Three is £15 a month which includes tethering
Blimey they have change it then...the One plan was £25pm when I joined them and was the only way to get unlimited and tethering at the time.

kyjaotkb
Sep 11, 2013, 12:17 PM
The One Plan on Three is £15 a month which includes tethering

yep. And even on the £15 PAYG 600min+3000texts+AYCE data package, which prohibits tethering, you'll get it for free... I've been using it for watching a full season of House of cards by tethering my iPad 4 to my 3GS. Pretty cool.

rmwebs
Sep 11, 2013, 12:25 PM
Wow. It's about time you guys got LTE. :p

I'm guessing the 'you guys' is the UK, correct? If so, we've had it for a while. the 'EE' network offer it, however they are crazily expensive and pretty crap for the price. Three is considered one of the, if not the best 3G provider in the UK. I get a solid 20mbps all over my city with them - no other network has that.

It's also pretty big that they aren't charging extra - EE charges a massive premium over 3G providers.

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Blimey they have change it then...the One plan was £25pm when I joined them and was the only way to get unlimited and tethering at the time.

You can also get unlimited tethered data for £10 /mo most of the time - ask in store. Before my iPhone 5 I was on a month-to-month contract with three paying £12/mo for unlimited data (tethered), 1000 minutes, 2500 texts.

Cant really beat three on price and performance. Their customer service used to be terrible, but these days they are decent enough.

peterh988
Sep 11, 2013, 12:43 PM
Wow. It's about time you guys got LTE. :p

We had to wait for the analogue TV system to shut down in order to free up the bandwidth for 4G.

Shaun, UK
Sep 11, 2013, 12:44 PM
You won't get tethering for £15 per month unless they've changed their policy.

Last time I checked with 3 it was £18/mth for the One Plan on a one month rolling contract with unlimited data and tethering.

Currently I pay £15/mth for Sky broadband and it's just rubbish. If I try to download too much content from iTunes it just grinds to a halt as they throttle the speed down to as low as 2Mbps. It never gets above 7Mbps even though Sky advertise it as 16Mbps.

eda
Sep 11, 2013, 12:51 PM
Seems like there wont be much difference between 3's 3G and 4G service, I've got the all-you-can-eat package and I'm so much happier with their 3G speeds over O2's.

Terrified
Sep 11, 2013, 01:01 PM
I currently get between 15Mbps - 22Mbps (depending on location) on their 3G. Can't wait to see what their 4G speeds will be like. Although a tad worried about the things I keep seeing stating that iPhone 5 won't be supported - hoping that's an error.

peterh988
Sep 11, 2013, 01:01 PM
Last time I checked with 3 it was £18/mth for the One Plan on a one month rolling contract with unlimited data and tethering.



£15 on a 12 month contract

Darrensk8
Sep 11, 2013, 01:26 PM
I currently get between 15Mbps - 22Mbps (depending on location) on their 3G. Can't wait to see what their 4G speeds will be like. Although a tad worried about the things I keep seeing stating that iPhone 5 won't be supported - hoping that's an error.

Out of interest where are you?

I'm in Wimbledon and I only get between 3 and 7mbs :(

cambookpro
Sep 11, 2013, 01:32 PM
Reading?! READING?! READING?!!

We're not even a city, but hey, I'll take it! :D

Terrified
Sep 11, 2013, 01:35 PM
Out of interest where are you?

I'm in Wimbledon and I only get between 3 and 7mbs :(

In and around Newcastle Upon Tyne. At work I get a nice steady 20Mbps. Lovely stuff.

Darrensk8
Sep 11, 2013, 01:39 PM
Wow!!!

Just tried to tether my phone to my ipad via Bluetooth and the ipad gets a much faster speed than my phone!!!


Anyone have any thoughts on whats wrong and how I can fix it?!?! I'm sure three will say its a problem with the phone and apple will say its a problem with three :confused:

Parasprite
Sep 11, 2013, 01:50 PM
Pictures of cats can make everything affordable..

Shaun, UK
Sep 11, 2013, 02:12 PM
In and around Newcastle Upon Tyne. At work I get a nice steady 20Mbps. Lovely stuff.

You get 20Mbps on 3 in Newcastle? Blimey last time I tried it with one of their dongles a few years ago I got 2Mbps. Didn't realise their 3G was so much faster now. Don't think I'll wait for the 4G version, 20Mbps is 3x my current Sky fixed line broadband speed.

neilmacd
Sep 11, 2013, 02:33 PM
The iPhone 5 was a blessing in disguise for me. Before that I was with O2, and the mess they made of the nano sim forced me to look elsewhere.

I reluctantly walked into a 3 store and haven't looked back since.

I'm on the outskirts of Newcastle and get a decent 15-18Mbps. Checked my data usage yesterday and was stunned at 30Gb in just under 12 months!

Like someone said earlier, over the past few years they have really turned it around.

NightFox
Sep 11, 2013, 02:49 PM
Another bonus with Three that I only found out about a couple of days ago is that if you're in one of 7 countries that also have a Three network (Republic of Ireland, Australia, Italy, Austria, Hong Kong, Sweden and Denmark) then you still get to use your call/data allowance as if you were still in the UK - effectively doing away with roaming charges in these countries. :D

Dr McKay
Sep 11, 2013, 02:51 PM
Wow. It's about time you guys got LTE. :p

We already had it, this is just other networks rolling out their own LTE networks.

orangezorki
Sep 11, 2013, 03:09 PM
Another bonus with Three that I only found out about a couple of days ago is that if you're in one of 7 countries that also have a Three network (Republic of Ireland, Australia, Italy, Austria, Hong Kong, Sweden and Denmark) then you still get to use your call/data allowance as if you were still in the UK - effectively doing away with roaming charges in these countries. :D

You're 90% right there - if you need to call a number local to the country you are in, or connect to the signal of another provider, then you still get bitten with roaming charges. But yeah, it's another reason why my upcoming upgrade will be the first time in almost a decade when I don't change my provider.

SimonMW
Sep 11, 2013, 03:51 PM
NIce that companies like Vodafone are investing in 4G. Lovely for those in major cities. Maybe they should sort out the rest of their network though. I can only just get Edge, if I'm lucky, in most place, and usually GPRS.

Fed up of paying high carrier prices to subsidise peoples fast connections in big cities. It's about time people paid a price representative of what kind of connection they can get in their area. Then maybe these companies would get off their arses and provide a decent service.

Greg.
Sep 11, 2013, 04:28 PM
NIce that companies like Vodafone are investing in 4G. Lovely for those in major cities. Maybe they should sort out the rest of their network though. I can only just get Edge, if I'm lucky, in most place, and usually GPRS.

Fed up of paying high carrier prices to subsidise peoples fast connections in big cities. It's about time people paid a price representative of what kind of connection they can get in their area. Then maybe these companies would get off their arses and provide a decent service.

This - I don't really care if London or Birmingham gets 4G since 3G HSPA+ speeds there are already really fast - the thing that bothers me is barely getting Edge if I'm anywhere that isn't a city.

ryansimmons323
Sep 11, 2013, 04:58 PM
Three have been wonderful. I've had them on Pay as You Go over the past nearly 2 years with my iPhone 4s. Each month I top up £15 a month and get unlimited data, 3000 texts and 300 minutes. That's unprecedented with other networks. Plus, they say you don't get tethering on PAYG, but somehow I've always been able to use it, for free!

OutSpoken
Sep 11, 2013, 07:09 PM
I'm planning to replace my Sky home broadband with this from 3 once we get 4G in my home town mainly because Sky broadband is so effing slow. Might as well save myself £15/mth and get a faster speed by simply tethering their unlimited data plan through my iPhone to my Mac. Can't wait. :D

"slow" eek.. :( Don't say that, I'm getting sky broadband installed on Friday.

I'm currently doing what you plan to do. I'm with Three on the OnePlan and have been using it to tether my mac and idevices. Its been great for best part of a year, but in the last 2-3 months the sudden lack of signal at home has ruined the experience for me.:mad: Three still can't get to the bottom of it, hence why my hand was forced to finally get home broadband:mad:

Reason I haven't given up on Three yet is because the unlimited tethering is really useful when; lets say I happen to be somewhere with no free wifi using my wifi only iPad plus no other uk network offers anything comparable -yet.

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Last time I checked with 3 it was £18/mth for the One Plan on a one month rolling contract with unlimited data and tethering.




£18 a month:confused:

I think I'll be giving Three a call in the morning. I think I'm paying £25 for rolling monthly.

Quu
Sep 11, 2013, 09:17 PM
I already get 20Mb/s with Three over 3G in London (which is where I live) so I think these estimations of 4G being 16Mb/s are very conservative of them.

But that is Three for you, conservatively brilliant.

SimonTheSoundMa
Sep 12, 2013, 03:07 AM
Wow. It's about time you guys got LTE. :p
Waiting for spectrum to become available, and also to roll LTE-A over LTE in time. The operators were not going to install hardware until LTE-A was ready. Hopefully when the extra spectrum is auctioned off LTE-A can be switched on at a flick of a switch.

The only loser here are EE, most of their LTE Siemens transmitters are not able to do LTE-A.

dark knight
Sep 12, 2013, 03:08 AM
Not sure where you are in the SE but I have never not had a 3G connection wherever I go in the SE, it's the very reason I have just signed another 24 month contract with them.

I tried all the other providers which were okay but it was hit and miss with signal coverage and Three was my last ditch attempt at getting something reasonably decent and even then I didn't hold out much hope...never looked back since, not only that their offers dump all over the other networks!

The only place I didn't get a very good signal was in my house but that was the same with all the other networks I tried, the only difference being was when I explained this to Three they sent me a Home Signal box and I now have 5 bars wherever I am in the house.

So strange. In Oxfordshire i very rarely see 3G. Often its the 'o' symbol of doom. Most of the way to London (High Wycombe) i can find myself without signal at all. I thought it was the iPhone 4 antenna thing, but its a similar story with the 5. London is at least covered fine. However, just went to France and never once found myself without 3G on the SFR network. So its probably not the phones fault. Confused :confused:

sneeks
Sep 12, 2013, 03:48 AM
I phoned Three last month and had them change my One Plan tariff from £25 per month to £18. A bargain for what it includes. I have just looked at EE's tariffs which are a joke.

northernmunky
Sep 12, 2013, 04:03 AM
Out of interest where are you?

I'm in Wimbledon and I only get between 3 and 7mbs :(

lol, I live in Wimbledon too.. I'm amazed you even have a signal on Three! I just switched over and I've never need 'No Service' on my iPhone so often.. :(

The Phazer
Sep 12, 2013, 04:43 AM
It's a real shame Three don't offer Visual voicemail... :-(

markie
Sep 12, 2013, 05:03 AM
So are 4G and LTE the same thing? When we're connected will it say 4G or LTE in the corner? What's the difference? Really good on Three to do this. After EE monopolised the market and ripped people off, it's a breath of fresh air to see a network which just wants to give its customers the best. Three has always been really great value.

4G can refer to HSPA+, LTE, WiMax, or other technologies. LTE is always LTE. The iPhone will show LTE. The only time it shows 4G is on AT&T HSPA+ in the US (on other networks, HSPA+ is shown as 3G)

YtseThunder
Sep 12, 2013, 06:48 AM
In the south east, Vodafone can't even manage 2G most of the time. I long for the time when i see a 3G symbol on my iPhone.

Hell yeah. Vodafone's indoor coverage is ridiculously poor. I have a seat in my living room for getting signal... It'd be a miracle to maintain >EDGE reception on my phone outdoors, too. Truly regret switching to Vodafone.

I have been tempted to stay on Vodafone following this Verizon sale, but I'm certain that Three will be my next provider, especially after this announcement. An added bonus is that I live in Reading and go to uni in London!

Instead of paying extra for higher broadband speeds, I'll most likely tether to my phone, if it offers a benefit, obviously.

otismotive77
Sep 12, 2013, 06:56 AM
finally! why were they so late?:mad:

dannys1
Sep 12, 2013, 07:06 AM
In my city this is the best result I got, actually underground in a bar too!!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8676022/3gresult.jpg

dannys1
Sep 12, 2013, 07:40 AM
It's a real shame Three don't offer Visual voicemail... :-(

I thought this for ages too, one of the reason I wouldn't move from o2. But then I tried Hulliomail when I moved to Three and to be honest, apart from it integrating with the phone app its better than visual voicemail anyway.

robertsduney
Sep 12, 2013, 07:55 AM
Love it.

Image (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/11/three-announces-4g-rollout-plan-in-four-uk-cities/)


The UK carrier Three (http://three.co.uk)*has announced that it will begin its 4G LTE rollout in four major UK cities starting in December of this year, with a further 42 cities due to be added by the end of 2014. According to its website (http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting?site=d), London, Birmingham (including the surrounding West Midlands), Manchester, and Reading will receive 4G coverage by the end of the year. Unlike other British carriers, Three is not charging a premium for its 4G services, as long as customers have compatible devices.

Image (http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/09/Screen-Shot-2013-09-11-at-13.23.57.jpg)
Customers who have compatible devices (Three's 4G network will work on the 800 MHz and 1,800 MHz frequencies on LTE bands 3 and 20) will be automatically upgraded with no extra fees. The carrier is also notable for being the only UK operator to offer truly unlimited mobile data with no exceptions, dubbed 'all-you-can-eat data' by the company.

Three already claims the fastest 3G network in the UK due to the implementation of HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA technology, which allow theoretical browsing speeds of up to 6 and 12 Mbps respectively. The company claims its 4G network will allow browsing speeds of up to 14 Mbps, which although is almost five times faster than standard 3G speeds, it still puts it behind the leader EE, which has doubled its LTE browsing speeds in several UK cities, allowing for theoretical browsing of up to 60 Mbps.

Three, along with the other British carriers EE, O2 and Vodafone, will all support LTE browsing on the new iPhone 5c (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/apple-announces-colorful-new-iphone-5c-starting-at-99-on-two-year-contract/) and iPhone 5s (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/10/apple-announces-iphone-5s/), both of which were announced yesterday at Apple's iPhone event in Cupertino, California. Both devices are compatible with the 800 MHz and 2,600 MHz frequencies, which were unsupported by the iPhone 5. Both O2 (http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone) and Vodafone (http://www.vodafone.co.uk/iphone/register-5s/index.htm) now allow customers to register their interest for the new devices, which are due to be released next week.

Article Link: Three Announces 4G Rollout Plan in Four UK Cities (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/11/three-announces-4g-rollout-plan-in-four-uk-cities/)

guzhogi
Sep 12, 2013, 08:42 AM
Kinda wish the US would build up its infrastructure more. It seems like every other country has way faster 4g/LTE service, faster broadband and other internet services. Plus, a lot of countries have high speed rail systems, and other faster forms of communication, transportation, etc. But the companies are too cheap to upgrade their infrastructure. I know, the US is a big place and it's expensive, but don't these companies bring in millions, if not billions, of dollars of profits? Plus, couldn't we do more of a public/private partnership?

Sorry for the rant, just kinda stressed out about some stuff & need to vent.

Jamie0003
Sep 12, 2013, 09:08 AM
Kinda wish the US would build up its infrastructure more. It seems like every other country has way faster 4g/LTE service, faster broadband and other internet services. Plus, a lot of countries have high speed rail systems, and other faster forms of communication, transportation, etc. But the companies are too cheap to upgrade their infrastructure. I know, the US is a big place and it's expensive, but don't these companies bring in millions, if not billions, of dollars of profits? Plus, couldn't we do more of a public/private partnership?

Sorry for the rant, just kinda stressed out about some stuff & need to vent.

Probably greed. To be fair though, we only just got 4G last year and it was only on EE. Think the US has had LTE for quite a while

Shaun, UK
Sep 12, 2013, 09:50 AM
"slow" eek.. :( Don't say that, I'm getting sky broadband installed on Friday.

Good luck with that I hope it works better for you. I've been using Sky broadband for the past 3 years. I'm currently on my third router as they seem to last about a year and then die. Fortunately each one died just before the warranty ran out so it didn't cost me anything to replace them.

I get on average 6-7Mbps although Sky tell me I should get 16Mbps. However whenever I call them they have no idea why I get less. My computer is upstairs and my router is on the floor below. I know that slows things down a bit. What's worse is if I download a lot of iTunes content the speed gradually gets slower and slower.

Apart from that the only other gripe I have with Sky broadband is that every time you call their support team they insist that you plug your computer directly into the router, which means I have to dismantle my desktop move it downstairs, plug everything in again just so they can ping my connection.

My advice would be to either position your router so you can plug it directly into your computer rather than using wireless or find some way to network it so it doesn't rely on the wireless connection. I know you can buy these things that plug into your electricity sockets and use that as a network. I've never used them personally but they look good.

As for your problems at home with 3, are you aware that you can buy indoor signal boosters for all the networks. 3 don't advertise it but they do sell one. I think it costs about £100 and it's designed to improve your signal indoors.

declandio
Sep 12, 2013, 10:24 AM
NIce that companies like Vodafone are investing in 4G. Lovely for those in major cities. Maybe they should sort out the rest of their network though. I can only just get Edge, if I'm lucky, in most place, and usually GPRS.

Fed up of paying high carrier prices to subsidise peoples fast connections in big cities. It's about time people paid a price representative of what kind of connection they can get in their area. Then maybe these companies would get off their arses and provide a decent service.

You have trees, fresh air and loveliness. We have faster ****. Swings & roundabouts man.

OutSpoken
Sep 12, 2013, 03:35 PM
Good luck with that I hope it works better for you. I've been using Sky broadband for the past 3 years. I'm currently on my third router as they seem to last about a year and then die. Fortunately each one died just before the warranty ran out so it didn't cost me anything to replace them.

I get on average 6-7Mbps although Sky tell me I should get 16Mbps. However whenever I call them they have no idea why I get less. My computer is upstairs and my router is on the floor below. I know that slows things down a bit. What's worse is if I download a lot of iTunes content the speed gradually gets slower and slower.

Apart from that the only other gripe I have with Sky broadband is that every time you call their support team they insist that you plug your computer directly into the router, which means I have to dismantle my desktop move it downstairs, plug everything in again just so they can ping my connection.

My advice would be to either position your router so you can plug it directly into your computer rather than using wireless or find some way to network it so it doesn't rely on the wireless connection. I know you can buy these things that plug into your electricity sockets and use that as a network. I've never used them personally but they look good.

As for your problems at home with 3, are you aware that you can buy indoor signal boosters for all the networks. 3 don't advertise it but they do sell one. I think it costs about £100 and it's designed to improve your signal indoors.

Cheers for the tips, the good thing is I have a macbook so in case i run into problems mobility shouldnt be an issue.

Re: 3 signal booster. They offered me one for free but as it relies on you having a wifi router which i didnt/wont have until tomorrow; it made no sense me taking the offer. Adding to that, the reason i signed up for the one plan was because i didnt feel the need to pay for home broadband when i could tether freely from my iPhone. The irony eh..

declandio
Sep 13, 2013, 01:21 AM
Those femtocell things will work wonders for your signal but I could never understand why, if you need one, you don't get at least a small discount on mobile line rental. You're basically using your paid for Internet to make up for bad mobile signals. The 'operator' should be paying The end user in these situations! But no... no discount and they won't give you one unless you're on a 24 month contract!

brandscill
Sep 13, 2013, 02:13 AM
So strange. In Oxfordshire i very rarely see 3G. Often its the 'o' symbol of doom. Most of the way to London (High Wycombe) i can find myself without signal at all. I thought it was the iPhone 4 antenna thing, but its a similar story with the 5. London is at least covered fine. However, just went to France and never once found myself without 3G on the SFR network. So its probably not the phones fault. Confused :confused:

Very odd, just went away on a company retreat to Oxfordshire and had a solid signal the entire time, apart from our hotel in the sticks but then nobody had signal

Darrensk8
Sep 13, 2013, 02:40 AM
Really?!?
The service may not be upto the 6mbs they say I should get but I honestly can't remember ever not getting service anywhere I've traveled in London



lol, I live in Wimbledon too.. I'm amazed you even have a signal on Three! I just switched over and I've never need 'No Service' on my iPhone so often.. :(

OutSpoken
Sep 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
Those femtocell things will work wonders for your signal but I could never understand why, if you need one, you don't get at least a small discount on mobile line rental. You're basically using your paid for Internet to make up for bad mobile signals. The 'operator' should be paying The end user in these situations! But no... no discount and they won't give you one unless you're on a 24 month contract!

Fwiw I rang Three and im getting them to send me a signal booster, they said its worth £99 and still property of Three and if I were to cancel my contract I would have to give it back:confused: anyway.... I also got them to reduce my tariff fee from £25 to £18pcm for the One-plan because I dont believe im getting the same service i signed up for. i'll see how things go with the 4G rollout...

declandio
Sep 16, 2013, 03:23 PM
Really?!?
The service may not be upto the 6mbs they say I should get but I honestly can't remember ever not getting service anywhere I've traveled in London

I'm in SW London- Hampton to be precise. Threes signal here is useless. 'no service' 90% of the time.