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GKDAIR
Sep 11, 2013, 10:46 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like the Nexus 7, but the more I use it the more I liked Apple better.

My first big annoyance came with Wallpaper. I was trying to use an image for a wallpaper and unlike Apple I have to section off a piece of the image because it scrolls, and there is no way to change this in the default android launcher, why in the world would they not give us an option for this? I'm not using another launcher just to be able to do this.

Secondly is a personal complaint, but I could never find widgets to match any themes I was going for with my Nexus 7. I'm a bit neurotic, and certain things just have to be certain ways. I don't understand how Android could give me the freedom to do anything, and yet I cannot decide on anything. IOS was so restricted but at least it was uniform and everything matched.

Next is Google Play. On the Free section of IOS, you would see some pretty useful apps, whereas on Google Play I just see FREE RINGTONE LIVE WALLPEPR GIRLFRIEND APP etc.

Finally, the ease of use. My Nexus 7 will open apps randomly, and it's taken me forever to figure out how to turn them off. Facebook seems permanently open, even though it wasn't like that before. It took me forever to figure out that the Battery Usage was just the total percent of use time on the battery, not how much the app was using. If so there's no excuse Dungeon Hunter 4 needs to take up over 50+ of my battery.

I've downloaded apps and literally had them dissapear from my apps list, I want to uninstall them but I can't seem to find them anywhere, and no googling has helped.

Google Now is nothing like people said it would be, the only thing it ever shows for me is the Weather, and anything I've ordered from Amazon.


Bottom line, while I do enjoy the tablet, I plan to switch back whenever the newest generations of Ipads come out. Android just apparently is not for me.



Fanaticalism
Sep 11, 2013, 10:52 PM
Next is Google Play. On the Free section of IOS, you would see some pretty useful apps, whereas on Google Play I just see FREE RINGTONE LIVE WALLPEPR GIRLFRIEND APP etc.



LOL! This was pretty funny. The biggest annoyance I find with the free apps is the crap advertisements they implement into the games. I understand they have to get paid, but the random pop ups that occur at the same exact moment that you need to click next to whatever the case may be, is pretty ridiculous.This is not the norm for free apps, but annoying nonetheless.

appledes7
Sep 11, 2013, 11:04 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like the Nexus 7, but the more I use it the more I liked Apple better.

My first big annoyance came with Wallpaper. I was trying to use an image for a wallpaper and unlike Apple I have to section off a piece of the image because it scrolls, and there is no way to change this in the default android launcher, why in the world would they not give us an option for this? I'm not using another launcher just to be able to do this.
Yes, the stock launcher should have this option. But if you do decide to look into other launchers for added customization, check out NOVA.

Secondly is a personal complaint, but I could never find widgets to match any themes I was going for with my Nexus 7. I'm a bit neurotic, and certain things just have to be certain ways. I don't understand how Android could give me the freedom to do anything, and yet I cannot decide on anything. IOS was so restricted but at least it was uniform and everything matched.
The basic structure of widgets means this will always be a problem. When you open an app from a specific developer, it was made with a certain design language. So different apps with different design languages aren't a huge deal because they are all contained within themselves. Once you have widgets on a home screen, you have different design languages fighting with one another. This really can't be fixed unfortunately.

Next is Google Play. On the Free section of IOS, you would see some pretty useful apps, whereas on Google Play I just see FREE RINGTONE LIVE WALLPEPR GIRLFRIEND APP etc.
Haha thats the free section for you. I find the best way to find cool free apps is to monitor Android forums and blogs. Lifehacker always seems to show off cool apps on all platforms.

Finally, the ease of use. My Nexus 7 will open apps randomly, and it's taken me forever to figure out how to turn them off. Facebook seems permanently open, even though it wasn't like that before. It took me forever to figure out that the Battery Usage was just the total percent of use time on the battery, not how much the app was using. If so there's no excuse Dungeon Hunter 4 needs to take up over 50+ of my battery.

This is because of the way some apps do notifications, or so I've heard. But also because many apps are always running in the background. That also contributes to battery drain. You will never see an Android device with the same battery capacity as an iPhone that gets the same battery life. Android devices just need larger batteries to compete. I also have a theory as to how larger screens got started. Android manufacturers couldn't get good battery life out of their devices in sizes similar to the iPhone. So they had 2 options: Thicker or wider/taller. If it was thicker, the argument could be made against the phone because people like thin phones. If it was wider/taller, it would allow for a bigger screen and could be used as a point against the iPhone.

I've downloaded apps and literally had them dissapear from my apps list, I want to uninstall them but I can't seem to find them anywhere, and no googling has helped.

Which ones in particular? I don't uninstall apps from the home screen, I uninstall from my app drawer. If they aren't showing up there, check your apps inside settings. If not there, check Google Play and search for the app. If a box says "open" or "uninstall" then it is installed. Otherwise there will just be a box that says "install" meaning you don't have it on your device.

Google Now is nothing like people said it would be, the only thing it ever shows for me is the Weather, and anything I've ordered from Amazon.

Google now is definitely over-hyped on here. It isn't hands free and isn't as easy to use as Siri. Try sending a text, making a calendar event, sending an email, or setting a reminder. All of which require touch input. Google Now won't speak what you said to make sure you got it right, and it won't allow you to just say "yes" to create an event or send an email. It requires touch input, effectively meaning it is not a hands free assistant. But you can't say that around these forums or people will get mad. So shhhhhhhhhhhh ;)

Bottom line, while I do enjoy the tablet, I plan to switch back whenever the newest generations of Ipads come out. Android just apparently is not for me.

I think it is still good that you gave it a try. A lot of people just write off iOS or Android because of their 5 minute experience with a device 4 years ago. Hardly still relevant. But I hope the new iPad is what you are looking for! :)

ReanimationN
Sep 11, 2013, 11:05 PM
Next is Google Play. On the Free section of IOS, you would see some pretty useful apps, whereas on Google Play I just see FREE RINGTONE LIVE WALLPEPR GIRLFRIEND APP etc.
:D

Plus, the paid section seems to always feature the same apps- "Titanium Backup! HD Widgets! Weather app 1, weather app 2, weather app 3..". ;)

Google Now is nothing like people said it would be, the only thing it ever shows for me is the Weather, and anything I've ordered from Amazon.
I'd definitely agree there, Google Now is one of the biggest tech disappointments I've ever encountered. Most of its features are useless in Australia.

Macman45
Sep 11, 2013, 11:07 PM
I gave the N7 my best shot too. I had no real gripe with Android, but the device just didn't fit in anyplace. The screen was a little too small ( I'd have the same issue with a mini) and I also found the KB clunky and unresponsive.

Apart from that the device, whilst built down to a budget, seemed well made, and there was a wide range of apps etc. available.

I wound up giving it to my buddy who has an Android phone and will get more use out of it. In short, my Apple eco-system was the deal-breaker in the end.

GKDAIR
Sep 11, 2013, 11:19 PM
Also, in response to the comment above me, I find the keyboard and device itself to just randomly freeze for no reason, and for long periods of time.

It's not enough to be annoying, but it is enough to remind me this was a cheaper tablet.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 11, 2013, 11:38 PM
Next is Google Play. On the Free section of IOS, you would see some pretty useful apps, whereas on Google Play I just see FREE RINGTONE LIVE WALLPEPR GIRLFRIEND APP etc.



Your being exaggerating.

What free section are you looking at? Your description seems to only fit "Top New Free". Under regular "Top Free" you'll find the same amount of useful apps as in Apple's App store "Top Free".

MacRumorUser
Sep 12, 2013, 03:09 AM
Also, in response to the comment above me, I find the keyboard and device itself to just randomly freeze for no reason, and for long periods of time.

It's not enough to be annoying, but it is enough to remind me this was a cheaper tablet.

I'm getting this too. Most infuriating.

I also have found that a number of apps fail to work properly when returning to them if they were open prior such as tapatalk. Meaning I have to clear them from the background and relaunch them. I have also found on a couple of occasions my nexus decides to reboot itself.

In going to keep it so that I have an android tablet for future app development, but will pick up an iPad mini retina.

fredaroony
Sep 12, 2013, 04:10 AM
Next is Google Play. On the Free section of IOS, you would see some pretty useful apps, whereas on Google Play I just see FREE RINGTONE LIVE WALLPEPR GIRLFRIEND APP etc.


Stopped reading after this as this thread is obvious bait....

samcraig
Sep 12, 2013, 06:24 AM
Opposite experience here. Well not opposite (on the extreme). I have both an iPad and new Nexus 7. Love the Nexus and never have had any of the issues or concerns you have. And my iPad has had lockups, freezes, apps behaving weirdly, etc.

No machine or OS is infallible.

JackieInCo
Sep 12, 2013, 07:23 AM
I have the original Nexus 7 32GB that I use on T-Mobile and AT&T. My only problem is that the battery on this thing rarely gives me more than two hours screen time and I have to charge it every day. It's probably related to this being the cellular capable model. I did get five hours screen tine once when I used it immediately after charging to watch Netflix. Other than that, I like it.

I bought the Nexus 7 in February just a few days after buying a Nexus 4. I later bought an iPad Mini that I also use on T-Mobile and AT&T. If I had bought the Mini first, I probably would never have bough the Nexus 7. The apps that I use are so much better on the iPad.

Some people keep telling me that I have to find equivalent apps to use then but there are no equivalent apps to many of them such as SiriusXM. 9News and several others. These apps actually have iPad apps that differ from the iPhone apps. On Android, these same apps are simply phone apps that will scale up to fill the screen on the Nexus 7 or any other Android tablet.

I have no plans to get rid of my Nexus 7 but I won't be buying the new Nexus 7. I will be buying the next iPad Mini.

Ddyracer
Sep 12, 2013, 11:21 AM
I also have been getting freezes and random reboots as well as lag, and crashes and dodgy touch, with a weird freeze state when I tap something like the back button, the highlighter freezes but the tablet itself doesn't.

It seems better lately, I got rid of apps that are dodgy and require root and disabled root as well. Seems to help by 50 percent.

GKDAIR
Sep 12, 2013, 01:19 PM
Here are some other things I would like to mention since other users have brought them up.

I know the screen resolution is 1920 x 1200, and yet everything always looks blurry when I'm looking at pictures. The images will be the same resolution at the screen and it just doesn't look that great at all when it becomes my wallpaper.

Also I fully agree about apps just simply working and looking better on IOS. I'm amazed to see how awful some big name apps look on the platform.

Another gripe with wallpaper, I hate it when I make a wallpaper that looks nice, and when I go into landscape mode it will cut off someones head or body part, making an odd wallpaper.

Why can't it just give me the simple image as my wallpaper no matter which way I orient the screen?

swpars
Sep 12, 2013, 09:22 PM
Also, in response to the comment above me, I find the keyboard and device itself to just randomly freeze for no reason, and for long periods of time.

It's not enough to be annoying, but it is enough to remind me this was a cheaper tablet.

My Galaxy S III also does this, and it's very irritating.

mKTank
Sep 13, 2013, 01:17 AM
Don't know what store you're looking at, bub.


http://i.imgur.com/pQrawMq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/udNNOjz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IKJa97W.jpg

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Don't get me wrong, I like the Nexus 7, but the more I use it the more I liked Apple better.

My first big annoyance came with Wallpaper. I was trying to use an image for a wallpaper and unlike Apple I have to section off a piece of the image because it scrolls, and there is no way to change this in the default android launcher, why in the world would they not give us an option for this? I'm not using another launcher just to be able to do this.
Then you're missing the entire essence of Android. Don't complain that it doesn't do something that you can easily fix with a simple free market app. Aftermarket launchers are better than most stock launchers anyway. If you're too scared to tinker, then maybe you need a more dumbed down OS like iOS after all.

Finally, the ease of use. My Nexus 7 will open apps randomly, and it's taken me forever to figure out how to turn them off. Facebook seems permanently open, even though it wasn't like that before. It took me forever to figure out that the Battery Usage was just the total percent of use time on the battery, not how much the app was using. If so there's no excuse Dungeon Hunter 4 needs to take up over 50+ of my battery.

I've downloaded apps and literally had them dissapear from my apps list, I want to uninstall them but I can't seem to find them anywhere, and no googling has helped.
So yeah you need a simpler OS that wipes your ass for you. Android's a bit out of your league.


Bottom line, while I do enjoy the tablet, I plan to switch back whenever the newest generations of Ipads come out. Android just apparently is not for me.
It's certainly not.

appledes7
Sep 13, 2013, 02:33 AM
So yeah you need a simpler OS that wipes your ass for you. Android's a bit out of your league.


Some people take this stuff way too seriously. Calm down dude.

MacRumorUser
Sep 13, 2013, 02:37 AM
Don't know what store you're looking at, bub.

Then you're missing the entire essence of Android. Don't complain that it doesn't do something that you can easily fix with a simple free market app. Aftermarket launchers are better than most stock launchers anyway. If you're too scared to tinker, then maybe you need a more dumbed down OS like iOS after all.


So yeah you need a simpler OS that wipes your ass for you. Android's a bit out of your league.
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This kind of response is why Android users get a bad name.

Every region store is different so the top paid and free items will be different in each store. A lot of the OP's gripes are actually on the mark here in Ireland store.

Secondly Google DO need to add basic customisation options such as number of home screens and app drawer management into their OS. We buy nexus devices for timely updates, but we should not have to use a third party launcher to add some of the most basic abilities to our device.

And no its nothing to do with needing a device that wipes your backside, that kind of elitist superiority complex is nothing but stupid juvenile posturing.

Seriously as a poster on the alternatives forum, your post is a bad reflection.

Rodster
Sep 13, 2013, 07:19 AM
My very first tablet was an Android device. I was reluctant to try iOS but when I did and purchased my first iPad, I find myself using it more than any of my Android devices. I like the simplicity and smoothness of iOS even if it's somewhat restricted vs Android.

JH-
Sep 13, 2013, 07:32 AM
For me the best combo is an android phone and iOS tablet. The versatility offered by an android phone in any situation is more valuable to me than the slight downfalls. However the polish of an iOS tablet crushes the android competition.

GKDAIR
Sep 13, 2013, 09:46 AM
Lol. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Again, I'm not saying I don't like Android or that I don't like my Nexus 7, but I just find it frustrating that I can't do some simple basic things on Android that I could do on IOS without the need to install 3rd party software.

There's absolutely no need I should be forced to download a 3rd party launcher just to get my wallpaper the way I prefer. It should be a default option, and it wouldn't be hard to add in.

mclld
Sep 13, 2013, 10:32 AM
I can totally see why someone would prefer ios to Android, some people just cant get other people have different opinions.

Drunken Master
Sep 13, 2013, 10:35 AM
I bought the original Nexus 7 last year and gave it a shot but ended up sending it back.

One thing that bothered me was that I couldn't find a genuinely good Chinese language learning app in the Play Store. I have Mind Snack's Mandarin app on my iPhone and its great, but couldn't find a comparable one on Android.

The stock music app was also very slow and clunky for me too.

Setting wallpapers was a bit of a pain compared to iOS.

I didn't like the fact that I was always signed into Gchat too. My ex-girlfriend sent me messages and told me that even though I was surfing the net or playing a game, her Gmail had me listed as logged on. I was having chats pop up all the time because of that.

Was not a fan of how Android wants you to use the Notification Center. I never use the NC in iOS and it's fine not to, but the Nexus required me to go in there despite Android's NC being too busy and visually off-putting.

thelezzy
Sep 13, 2013, 05:44 PM
That's right from the title, I don't think you're an apple fans it simpilly because android tablets are rubbish.
Android fans recommend me (ex android fan fan) whythe N7 was better than any tablets.

My biggest disappointments came, initial impressions, large screen, build quality seems ok for the price. Disappointments lots

"iOS on tablets is just a blown up version of the iPhone", same for jelly bean when google removed the tab UI, worse thing is, iOS has evenly spaced out icons that makes it tablet friendly, androids icons are not too well spaced and plus the widgets don't fill lithe screen like it does on a phone.

"Android is better, more customisable" yes but phone customistions makes any tablet look bad

"Android has better processor = better performance than icrap", 100% not true. 3rd party android apps (from video) has way slower loading times than a iPhone 2g. That doesn't matter me as much on a phone as it does on a large screen tablet.

"Nexus 7 has 12 times better graphics than the iPad Mini" not true the iPad's dual core powervr sgx543mp2 has about x1.8 more raw horses and in combination with Ioses optimisations it a big plus. iOS devices tend to have smoother graphics at higher graphics setting despite slower hardware, android is the opposite, most low graphics game now lags with last years flagship.

tHD effects are just gimmick

Now I am reatively unbiased, I tend to like any device, android windows phone ios

mellofello
Sep 13, 2013, 06:43 PM
I agree. I am going to get the retina mini day 1. The nexus will be getting mounted on my dash in my car. Whatevs it was cheap. IOS is better on tablets, Android is better on phones

Dontazemebro
Sep 13, 2013, 07:34 PM
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Then you're missing the entire essence of Android. Don't complain that it doesn't do something that you can easily fix with a simple free market app. Aftermarket launchers are better than most stock launchers anyway. If you're too scared to tinker, then maybe you need a more dumbed down OS like iOS after all..

Really you don't even need a launcher. A simple app like "image 2 wallpaper" is an easy solution for the op's issue.

ravenvii
Sep 13, 2013, 08:06 PM
The Android-defenders here are hilarious. "You can tweak Android to your heart's desire! If you don't like Android, you must be dumb! That explains why you like a dumbed-down OS!"

I use iOS as my main mobile OS -- I have an iPhone 4S and a 3rd gen iPad.

I also have a Nexus 7, and quite like it. I bought it for learning Android development. It was well-built, the screen is good, and so forth.

However, I see the same issues as mentioned above. Android just isn't something I would use as a main mobile OS. And the funny thing is, my absolute biggest hold-up about Android? The bounce-back effect, or lack of. How scrolling just... stops is jarring and feels unnatural.

Apple hit gold with this one. Microsoft has a "close enough" execution that I can live with. But Android's just-stop-there isn't my thing.

So the Nexus 7 is exclusively a development device for me. I use the iPad for everything else. And I'm fine with that.

Carlanga
Sep 13, 2013, 08:09 PM
I think you just went head first expecting it to work the same way as iOS. IS a different OS even though they have similarities and you have to spend time w/ each to understand and do things the way you want.

ReanimationN
Sep 13, 2013, 08:31 PM
The Android-defenders here are hilarious. "You can tweak Android to your heart's desire! If you don't like Android, you must be dumb! That explains why you like a dumbed-down OS!"

I use iOS as my main mobile OS -- I have an iPhone 4S and a 3rd gen iPad.

I also have a Nexus 7, and quite like it. I bought it for learning Android development. It was well-built, the screen is good, and so forth.

However, I see the same issues as mentioned above. Android just isn't something I would use as a main mobile OS. And the funny thing is, my absolute biggest hold-up about Android? The bounce-back effect, or lack of. How scrolling just... stops is jarring and feels unnatural.

Apple hit gold with this one. Microsoft has a "close enough" execution that I can live with. But Android's just-stop-there isn't my thing.

So the Nexus 7 is exclusively a development device for me. I use the iPad for everything else. And I'm fine with that.

I can't handle that either, it really does feel horribly unnatural. Plus, it makes it hard to tell when you're scrolling down on a long page in a hurry when you've actually hit the bottom, the bounce-back effect is really good visual feedback to tell you you've reached the end of a page/list.

tbayrgs
Sep 13, 2013, 08:55 PM
And the funny thing is, my absolute biggest hold-up about Android? The bounce-back effect, or lack of. How scrolling just... stops is jarring and feels unnatural.

Apple hit gold with this one. Microsoft has a "close enough" execution that I can live with. But Android's just-stop-there isn't my thing.


I can't handle that either, it really does feel horribly unnatural. Plus, it makes it hard to tell when you're scrolling down on a long page in a hurry when you've actually hit the bottom, the bounce-back effect is really good visual feedback to tell you you've reached the end of a page/list.

I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

GKDAIR
Sep 13, 2013, 09:03 PM
Yeah it is weird how while scrolling on the Android platform it just kinda....stops.

It's very jarring. IOS kinda has that momentum thing going.

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Really you don't even need a launcher. A simple app like "image 2 wallpaper" is an easy solution for the op's issue.

I did research for several apps and NONE of them were able to do just a simple wallpaper.

I don't need my wallpaper to do 50 thousand things, I just wanted a simple wallpaper.

ravenvii
Sep 13, 2013, 09:16 PM
I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

Yes. I am serious.

What do I do a lot on a mobile OS? Scrolling through menus and webpages and documents.

For me, the scrolling does really make a difference. Maybe for you it doesn't, but for me it does.

If you have a problem with that, well, too bad.

Dontazemebro
Sep 13, 2013, 09:17 PM
Yeah it is weird how while scrolling on the Android platform it just kinda....stops.

It's very jarring. IOS kinda has that momentum thing going.

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I did research for several apps and NONE of them were able to do just a simple wallpaper.

I don't need my wallpaper to do 50 thousand things, I just wanted a simple wallpaper.

Really?

I just searched for non scrolling wallpaper in the play store and the first one listed does exactly what you want.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.twistedapps.wallpaperwizardrii

tbayrgs
Sep 13, 2013, 09:32 PM
Yes. I am serious.

What do I do a lot on a mobile OS? Scrolling through menus and webpages and documents.

For me, the scrolling does really make a difference. Maybe for you it doesn't, but for me it does.

If you have a problem with that, well, too bad.

You're absolutely right--choose whatever meets your needs. I won't argue because you can't argue preference. My mistake was not qualifying my statement that, in my opinion, it sounds ridiculous. To me, it's an equivalent statement to saying you prefer a car because the manufacturer included a really cool sound when you close the door--the normal sound is just too unnatural.

Technarchy
Sep 13, 2013, 09:55 PM
I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

It's the little things that make a positive user experience.

For example, something that seems really small, but is a big deal on iOS: Tap to top. I HATE scrolling to the top on android. iOS's tap to top is so freaking easy, convenient and really smart software design.

ReanimationN
Sep 13, 2013, 10:22 PM
I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

Yeah, I do find it really jarring, it feels really unnatural to me for a touch-based UI to come to a sudden stop like that. It doesn't bother me when using a mouse on Windows, but it does when I can touch the content with my fingers. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on it though, MS' implementation of it in W8 and WP8 also feels perfectly fine to me, it's just the complete absence of it that feels unnatural.

If you want an example of something that feels/seems unnatural to me on an Apple device, the new borderless text buttons on iOS 7 are off-putting- along with the new white-heavy visual style. If you aren't already familiar with an app before it gets an iOS 7-style makeover, what you can and can't press, and where to press, isn't always immediately obvious. It isn't very hard to pick up, and I don't think many people will have too many troubles with it, but it's a step-down from how immediately accessible iOS was before.

tbayrgs
Sep 13, 2013, 10:44 PM
It's the little things that make a positive user experience.

For example, something that seems really small, but is a big deal on iOS: Tap to top. I HATE scrolling to the top on android. iOS's tap to top is so freaking easy, convenient and really smart software design.

I'll agree to a point. The little things refine the user experience, and can make a good experience great, but it's the big things that make the user experience.

I also love the tap to top functionality in Safari--but that's a feature offering added functionality. It allows you to navigate more quickly--and it's needed in iOS because scrolling is painfully slow compared to browsers in Android. The 'bounce effect' is pure aesthetics, nothing more. When the other poster said that the way scrolling just ended in Android felt 'unnatural' I had to laugh because, in nature, when you come to the end of something--it naturally just stops.

Again, there is no right or wrong because, it's all preference. Some people place greater emphasis on form, others on function.

mKTank
Sep 13, 2013, 10:49 PM
Isn't the bouncing animation not included because it was patented by Apple? I mean, even Microsoft had to sort or get around it by making the window stretch a bit and therefore make it just different enough.

Still, I much prefer the glow effect over bounce back personally.

ReanimationN
Sep 13, 2013, 10:58 PM
When the other poster said that the way scrolling just ended in Android felt 'unnatural' I had to laugh because, in nature, when you come to the end of something--it naturally just stops.

Again, there is no right or wrong because, it's all preference. Some people place greater emphasis on form, others on function.

Not necessarily. It reminds me of the way a legrope works in surfing- once it reaches the end of its tether, it stretches slightly, then bounces back at you. Or bending a tree branch towards/away from you, it behaves in much the same way.

blackhand1001
Sep 13, 2013, 11:13 PM
That's right from the title, I don't think you're an apple fans it simpilly because android tablets are rubbish.
Android fans recommend me (ex android fan fan) whythe N7 was better than any tablets.

My biggest disappointments came, initial impressions, large screen, build quality seems ok for the price. Disappointments lots

"iOS on tablets is just a blown up version of the iPhone", same for jelly bean when google removed the tab UI, worse thing is, iOS has evenly spaced out icons that makes it tablet friendly, androids icons are not too well spaced and plus the widgets don't fill lithe screen like it does on a phone.

"Android is better, more customisable" yes but phone customistions makes any tablet look bad

"Android has better processor = better performance than icrap", 100% not true. 3rd party android apps (from video) has way slower loading times than a iPhone 2g. That doesn't matter me as much on a phone as it does on a large screen tablet.

"Nexus 7 has 12 times better graphics than the iPad Mini" not true the iPad's dual core powervr sgx543mp2 has about x1.8 more raw horses and in combination with Ioses optimisations it a big plus. iOS devices tend to have smoother graphics at higher graphics setting despite slower hardware, android is the opposite, most low graphics game now lags with last years flagship.

tHD effects are just gimmick

Now I am reatively unbiased, I tend to like any device, android windows phone ios

Bullcrap on the graphics in the iPad mini being faster. The nexus 7 2013 scores like 5-6 times faster on gl benchmark on Egypt HD and trex HD offscreen and onscreen. The nexus 7 is also better optimized as it has open gl 3 support which the mini does not even though it could.

kenypowa
Sep 13, 2013, 11:44 PM
Secondly is a personal complaint, but I could never find widgets to match any themes I was going for with my Nexus 7. I'm a bit neurotic, and certain things just have to be certain ways. I don't understand how Android could give me the freedom to do anything, and yet I cannot decide on anything. IOS was so restricted but at least it was uniform and everything matched.


The freedom of choice be damned. There are too many fast food restaurants in the States, why not move to North Korea where there is no food and everyone looks so thin and starving:p

appledes7
Sep 14, 2013, 01:49 AM
Still, I much prefer the glow effect over bounce back personally.

When I have people use my Nexus 4 or 7, they think the phone is lagging because nothing is happening. The glow effect just doesn't do much. They need to exaggerate it significantly for it to truly serve the purpose of telling people they are at the end of a web page or list. It is just way too subtle.

fredaroony
Sep 14, 2013, 04:01 AM
Lol. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Again, I'm not saying I don't like Android or that I don't like my Nexus 7, but I just find it frustrating that I can't do some simple basic things on Android that I could do on IOS without the need to install 3rd party software.

There's absolutely no need I should be forced to download a 3rd party launcher just to get my wallpaper the way I prefer. It should be a default option, and it wouldn't be hard to add in.

What basic things?

mKTank
Sep 14, 2013, 10:21 AM
When I have people use my Nexus 4 or 7, they think the phone is lagging because nothing is happening. The glow effect just doesn't do much. They need to exaggerate it significantly for it to truly serve the purpose of telling people they are at the end of a web page or list. It is just way too subtle.

Yeah that's true. It's a really cool effect but does need to be turned up a bit.

Timely7
Sep 14, 2013, 10:33 AM
This is because of the way some apps do notifications, or so I've heard. But also because many apps are always running in the background. That also contributes to battery drain. You will never see an Android device with the same battery capacity as an iPhone that gets the same battery life. Android devices just need larger batteries to compete. I also have a theory as to how larger screens got started. Android manufacturers couldn't get good battery life out of their devices in sizes similar to the iPhone. So they had 2 options: Thicker or wider/taller. If it was thicker, the argument could be made against the phone because people like thin phones. If it was wider/taller, it would allow for a bigger screen and could be used as a point against the iPhone.


Which ones in particular? I don't uninstall apps from the home screen, I uninstall from my app drawer. If they aren't showing up there, check your apps inside settings. If not there, check Google Play and search for the app. If a box says "open" or "uninstall" then it is installed. Otherwise there will just be a box that says "install" meaning you don't have it on your device.


Google now is definitely over-hyped on here. It isn't hands free and isn't as easy to use as Siri. Try sending a text, making a calendar event, sending an email, or setting a reminder. All of which require touch input. Google Now won't speak what you said to make sure you got it right, and it won't allow you to just say "yes" to create an event or send an email. It requires touch input, effectively meaning it is not a hands free assistant. But you can't say that around these forums or people will get mad. So shhhhhhhhhhhh ;)

Wow you are soooo right! It makes perfect sense now why Android manufacturers go for the bigger screen phones!!! Because they couldnt compete with the iPhone in the 3.5-4" smartphone market!

thelezzy
Nov 16, 2013, 08:58 AM
Bullcrap on the graphics in the iPad mini being faster. The nexus 7 2013 scores like 5-6 times faster on gl benchmark on Egypt HD and trex HD offscreen and onscreen. The nexus 7 is also better optimized as it has open gl 3 support which the mini does not even though it could.

Did I say Nexus 7 2013?
I said Nexus 7 (original name for 2012)
PowerVR SGXMP variants will get firmware update to support OpenGL 3.0

No Nexus 7 isn't more optimised... Hint it's android
ART is just catching up, fragmentation is another

haxrnick
Nov 16, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sounds like just about everyone ITT doesn't know how to Android.