MacWorld SanFrancisco 2003

[MacRumors]

MacWorld Expo San Francisco 2003 (http://www.macworldexpo.com) kicks off next week at The Moscone Center in San Fracisco.

The event that everyone is waiting for is Steve Jobs' keynote address which has been the traditional announcement event for new product releases. MacWorld SF 2002 brought us the long anticipated LCD iMac.

Recent rumors have been pointing towards both the iMac and eMac lines as potential upgrades. This correlates with the Apple's product cycles... with the most recent updates already to have refreshed the Powerbook (Nov 2002), iBooks (Nov 2002), and PowerMacs (Aug 2002).

The eMac and iMac have seen minor bumps (Superdrive, 17" Screen) over the past year but their last major revisions have been in April 2002 and January 2002, respectively.

Rumors have been floating around for speed bumped iMacs (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/12/20021218202204.shtml) and eMacs (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/12/20021214122424.shtml). Recent information seems to indicate that Bluetooth will be integrated (at least) with the new iMacs.

While rumors of 19" iMacs were sparked in June by a Digitimes report (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/05/20020531185518.shtml), also rumored are 19" LCD's themselves. With the 15" LCD discontinued (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/10/20021021225205.shtml), Apple is in the position to move the product line into 17", 19", 23" tiered products. First rumors of such a move (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020929234735.shtml) date back to this time last year (2001) from Railheaddesign.com (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2001/12/20011202023546.shtml)

Beyond this, the most concrete information we have include definate iApp upgrades, a new Apple Application, and new "hardware/feature" -- which may prove to be Bluetooth. Other details are scarce.

[janey]

What if apple comes out with a slimmer 20gb iPod or something?
I highly doubt that Bluetooth would be it...I think it might be something completely revolutionary (as usual, steve unveiling iBreakthroughs).

[Gus]

I'm thinking consumer machine upgrades, an iApp upgrades to go with the consumer machines. Sure would like to see some updates to iChat, iPhoto, iCal and iMovie.

Regards,
Gus

[trebblekicked]

I wouldn't be surprised if they announced FCP4. There are now prosumer level DV cameras (well, one, actually, i believe it's a Panasonic) that shoot in 24 fps and i think trade secret mentioned good 24 fps support for FCP4... That would suck for me though-- i just bought FCP3 about a month ago.

[sfoalex]

Final Cut Pro 4 is no where near release. Had they even been close to being able to show it off even just a little, they would have done so at the DV Expo in December. MacWorld's are not the best venue for releasing a product like Final Cut Pro. DV Expo is the best place for such a product and it only precedes the expo by a couple weeks.

I would say Final Cut Pro 4 will not be ready until at least summer 2003 or even longer then that. Many in the industry believe that Final Cut Pro 4 is in the early beta stages.

Alex

[joed]

I wonder if we'll see a seven day countdown to the 2003 MWSF?

ie like at the beginnning of this year (2002) on Apple's main page.

[SunRiser]

Originally posted by Macrumors
Other details are scarce.

because maybe there isn;t a lot to expect from this keynote? :(

[Foocha]

I think we'll see:

A new iPod with a color screen and QuickTime playback.

A new app called iVideo which is to movies what iPhoto is to Photos.

A new iMac with built-in Personal Video Recorder, which syncs videos with the new iPod.

iSync 1.0

iMovie 3

Bluetooth across the range.

[Chaszmyr]

iPod stock is so high i dont think its likely that a new iPod will be released yet

[HasanDaddy]

I have no idea what to predict....?

I think we're definitely due for a Digital Device, but who knows?

Anyhoo......here are my pics:

SURE SHOTS -

iMac, eMac upgrades (duh), and a 19" screen

DIGITAL DEVICE -

Who knows? I think a camera, PDA, cellphone, quicktime watcher (color iPod), camcorder, and Tivo-device are all possible

RENDEVOUS-

Say hello to BlueTooth iStereo

AND THE WILDCARD -

The SuperBook....17" screen and 15 pounds of PURE POWER

[HasanDaddy]

ohhhh......and can't forget iTablet

I don't think we'll see iTablet this time.....but I do think that a detachable iMac screen is a possibility

[Foocha]

I think a Tablet is a good bet, but they'll only release one now if they can think of a way of differentiating it from Tablet PC, otherwise they'll wait to see if Tablet PC is a success before deciding whether to release it. The presence of Inkwell in Jagwire indicates that they have such a device up their sleeves just in case.

Personally, I don't think Tablet PC will be successful, so it may be some time before Apple launches such a product.

[Machead III]

Just imagine...

G5 2.5GHz 19" iMac with wireless detatchable screen, 500MHz Bus, 2 USB 4 FireWire and BlueTooth, built in SuperDrive and a 130Gb HD.......... *droooooools*

[usersince86]

Originally posted by Machead III
Just imagine...

G5 2.5GHz 19" iMac with wireless detatchable screen, 500MHz Bus, 2 USB 4 FireWire and BlueTooth, built in SuperDrive and a 130Gb HD...

Yep, just imagine...

because we won't see it in January!

[748s]

Originally posted by sfoalex
DV Expo is the best place for such a product and it only precedes the expo by a couple weeks.

Alex

NAB is the place for a pro NLE release. i've heard a post house has been running a beta of 4 since september. i'm going with an NAB/april release of fcp4.

no idea what could be released at mwsf.
what i want released is an iPod with a mic input and record function.

[jessemann]

will have to include india titler pro... well at least the code, to give boris some compition in the compisitng plugin world. apple bought that software quite a while ago... sounds like its the right time to announce it.

[SmileyDude]

Rendezvous support -- enuf said :)

I just hope they don't make it so that you have to be running iTunes on both ends to make it work -- I want to be able to use it without having to be logged in on the server end

[SunRiser]

Originally posted by 748s


NAB is the place for a pro NLE release. i've heard a post house has been running a beta of 4 since september. i'm going with an NAB/april release of fcp4.

no idea what could be released at mwsf.
what i want released is an iPod with a mic input and record function.

seems to be a good bet. but i'm not sure it's beta outside apple yet... (i would have know that...)

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by Chaszmyr
iPod stock is so high i dont think its likely that a new iPod will be released yet

I don't know about that. just did some research this morning and here's what I've found:

Best Buy is reporting all of their iPods as "on order" with a 5-7 day wait, except for the 20GB versions which are in stock

The Apple Store is quoting 3-5 waits on 5GB and 1-2 waits on 10s and 20s

Amazon.com is still reporting 24 hour turnaround.

I'm not sure what to think about the iPods they're a huge seller and I'd love to see an update. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed and remaining hopefull.

[KLFloyd]

Oops...forgot to ask this in my last post.

Could someone tell me if we'll have to see a hardware change in the iPod to include MPEG4 or could this be done with software? Though I'm hoping for hardware updates exactelly how much could Apple do with software alone and make people feel they're getting a whole new iPod for no extra cost?

This makes lots of people happy because they can still use their old iPods and get new features. If that's the case then I think we're likely to see price drops and software features increase.

[whfsdude]

w00t :D I am so glad I asked for the money for an iPod so I can get one after Jan 7th :D This fsckin' rocks :D

[Tue12]

I hope Apple drops its prices on the iMacs as they did with the iBook.

I hate to say these kinds of things, but Dell is really being aggressive on pricing, selling a 15"LCD + desktop for $700!

[danielcroft]

Here's my theory:

Likely:
iApps upgrades
new iApp: "iMuse" or "iMusic" (iApp music production - they didn't buy that company for nothing you know!)

Maybe:
hardware updates - speed bumps

Outside:
Bluetooth

What I really want:
SuperDrive for older PowerBooks

Daniel

[Chad4Mac]

I have a feeling we will see:

Demo on Powerbook DVD buring

Talk about iBook cost decrease

The Xserve RAID configuration released with nice little demo of the complete Apple server package (Xserve and RAID).

iTunes with Rendezvous (released and ready to download)

Demo of Bluetooth with HP Wireless Printers, Phillips Bluetooth stereo, and something new? Phillips stereo out soon

19" Apple Display, with price drops on entire line

Price drops on iMac and eMac line, with upgrades. No new 19" iMac

Release of iSync (with more support for Bluetooth mobile phones)

Upgrades to one iApp, no new iApp released

NO Tablet

NO Digital Device

No iPod upgrade

Chad4Mac

[Foocha]

Hi chad4mac,

That all sounds very likely - it'll be a bet of a let-down though!

[Gus]

Finally a realist. Chad4Mac, I think you have it on the money there. Nothing very exciting, but not nothing either. This sounds exactly like the last several MacWorlds.

Regards,
Gus

[Brandon Sharitt]

Originally posted by Chad4Mac

NO Digital Device


Yes, I'm sure we won't see any digital devices for Apple, just computers./

[Kid Red]

Originally posted by Chad4Mac
I have a feeling we will see:

Demo on Powerbook DVD buring

Talk about iBook cost decrease

The Xserve RAID configuration released with nice little demo of the complete Apple server package (Xserve and RAID).

iTunes with Rendezvous (released and ready to download)

Demo of Bluetooth with HP Wireless Printers, Phillips Bluetooth stereo, and something new? Phillips stereo out soon

19" Apple Display, with price drops on entire line

Price drops on iMac and eMac line, with upgrades. No new 19" iMac

Release of iSync (with more support for Bluetooth mobile phones)

Upgrades to one iApp, no new iApp released

NO Tablet

NO Digital Device

No iPod upgrade

Chad4Mac

You forgot the 22" CD being dropped. I do, however, think we will see a new iDevice. Also, iTunes should be updated for bluetooth. iMovie is due, Applworks is due, iChat should get ICQ support, iCal is due as well. Not sure if the new iApp iPhone will debut, if it's a big bluetooth show then it has a chance.

[Chad4Mac]

Originally posted by Kid Red


You forgot the 22" CD being dropped. I do, however, think we will see a new iDevice. Also, iTunes should be updated for bluetooth. iMovie is due, Applworks is due, iChat should get ICQ support, iCal is due as well. Not sure if the new iApp iPhone will debut, if it's a big bluetooth show then it has a chance.

I'm not quite sure they will get rid of the 22in. If they do, they would have to reduce the cost of the 23in to current (plus or minus) price of the 22in. I believe there still is a market for the 22in, especially because it's almost one thousand dollars cheaper than the 23in. Now, if they drop the 23in to the same price, maybe a hundred or so more than the current 22in, obviously the 22in market would be reduced. But I personally have been waiting for the 22in to drop in price; i have no need for the 23in HD, just the real estate. 22in is perfect for me, and even better at five hundred bucks cheaper. I think there are others overs who have this same need.

[Chomolungma]

Originally posted by Chad4Mac
I have a feeling we will see:

Price drops on iMac and eMac line, with upgrades. No new 19" iMac


Chad4Mac

wired.com ran an artical today casually saying that you'll see it soon i.e. MWSF. The reason not to have this machine on this board I think is weak whether it be design issue or pricing. A $1999 price point is extremely competitive!:D

[Choppaface]

id like to see apple clean out the bugs in OSX instead of making new little messes he he

[ibookin']

What I hope for (but probably won't get):

-Dual 1.8Ghz PowerPC 970 Power Mac with 800Mhz bus

I could see the release: Steve pits PowerMac against 3.06Ghz P4 Dell onstage, Power Mac burns P4 and audience cheers. Steve then demoes the PowerMac resizing a browser window perfectly and smoothly. And every mac user has a happy day.

What we probably will get:

-iMac updated to 867 and 1Ghz CPUs with 15" and 17" LCDs, graphics cards upgraded

-eMac updated to 800 and 867, maybe GF4s

-No laptop updates

-iPod price drop, maybe upgraded to 40GB assuming Toshiba or someone else has the drive, gets MP4 support (hopefully via software update so I can upgrade mine :D) ,no color screen

-iApps get minor updates, iTunes gets MP4 support, iSync is finalized to be compatible with...

-A new Digital Lifestyle Device similar to the Handspring Treo. Will run on 3G wireless networks (GPRS demoed at MWNY 2002, CDMA 2000 for Verizon(I hope)) and have Bluetooth support. Jobs said that the stuff Apple will release in '03 is really great, and I hope this is it.

[MyLeftNut]

Not sure if this is the right thread but I agree with Chad4Mac's predictions...not great but not bad either.

My prediction, right at the end of the keynote speech:

Jobs will say goodbye to the Macworld events (not the company) or at least hand it over to Phil Schiller.

I think the Macworld events will be phased out...think about it, no other company has to raise the bar so high everytime they have an event like Apple. Rather than do that they are positioning themselves with their retail stores such that they are getting good exposure on a broader level. They could easily have Macworld type events running over a couple of days running at each of the stores simultaneously where they can get better over all attendance than the currently dwindling attendances at macworld. Imagine...each store runs a mini macworld at the local level (even overseas :D ) and multiply the traffic that would pass through the store by a factor of ten and the total numbers would outstrip the current macworlds in numbers and exposure.

Anyway...I know we all love the hype of the current format but I think when you have such anticipation that cannot be matched it only hurts Apple.

[Les Kern]

Been through this before. The only thing I'M SURE of is a new mock-turtleneck, lots of bottled water, and visit from Adobe and Quark. But I'll be watching.

[frankenm]

I'm guessing they'll be a few surprise announcements from some Partner companies - further fulifilling Apple's idea of the digital hub. Philips Electronics, who previsouly announced support for Bluetooth in upcoming products, should make an appearance - maybe with a new bluetooth-enabled TV or flat panel. Or a stereo component. Use your Mac to play music on the stereo or display photos or video on a TV or screen, all using Bluetooth or 802.11.

Obviously speed bumps for the iMac and eMac are will be coming. There won't be a 19" screen though.

I also think the chances are high that Apple will introduce some other consumer device like a phone/PDA.

[Huked on Fonick]

So when can i get my bluetooth toaster and microwave......

My guess will we that apple will start selling kitchen appliances that are compatable with bluetooth and expand the ditigal hub idea to the digital kitchen and from there to the digital house ...just think of it bluetooth enable windows that u can open from ur computer....... wow cant wait

glad i got a bluetooth adapter for my ibook (for my phone of corse)

-Pat

[Durandal7]

Here's how I envision the keynote playing out:

Steve is 10 minutes late, Beach Boys tunes play until the keynote starts
Opens with Switch ads
Steve comes out wearing a black turtleneck/jeans or a pinstripe suit
Steve talks about how great OS X and shows off a few OS X apps
Debut of new OS X ad campaign
Shows off Rendezvous
iTunes 4.0 w/ Rendezvous released, Steve plays "Loveshack" for us
Talks about how well the retail stores are doing
A couple of Apple Stores will be opening in a few weeks
iSync good to go, updates to some other software
A whole crapload of iSync/Bluetooth phone demos
New .mac features introduced
Phil Schiller has a Powermac do Photoshop against a P4
Steve drinks some bottled water
Steve says "look at the cheaper iBooks/Powerbooks"
Updated iMac lines
Price drop on eMac line
Steve drinks some bottled water
Keynote closes to the tune of "Loveshack" again

[funkywhat2]

Originally posted by Durandal7
Here's how I envision the keynote playing out:

Steve is 10 minutes late, Beach Boys tunes play until the keynote starts
Opens with Switch ads
Steve comes out wearing a black turtleneck/jeans or a pinstripe suit
Steve talks about how great OS X and shows off a few OS X apps
Debut of new OS X ad campaign
Shows off Rendezvous
iTunes 4.0 w/ Rendezvous released, Steve plays "Loveshack" for us
Talks about how well the retail stores are doing
A couple of Apple Stores will be opening in a few weeks
iSync good to go, updates to some other software
A whole crapload of iSync/Bluetooth phone demos
New .mac features introduced
Phil Schiller has a Powermac do Photoshop against a P4
Steve drinks some bottled water
Steve says "look at the cheaper iBooks/Powerbooks"
Updated iMac lines
Price drop on eMac line
Steve drinks some bottled water
Keynote closes to the tune of "Loveshack" again

You forgot that he is going to say "And one more thing." , and then introduce some weak ass product tyhat no one is ever going to give a **** about.

Ooo, I sure am fiesty today!:D :D

[bluecell]

Originally posted by Durandal7
Here's how I envision the keynote playing out:

Steve is 10 minutes late, Beach Boys tunes play until the keynote starts
Opens with Switch ads
Steve comes out wearing a black turtleneck/jeans or a pinstripe suit
Steve talks about how great OS X and shows off a few OS X apps
Debut of new OS X ad campaign
Shows off Rendezvous
iTunes 4.0 w/ Rendezvous released, Steve plays "Loveshack" for us
Talks about how well the retail stores are doing
A couple of Apple Stores will be opening in a few weeks
iSync good to go, updates to some other software
A whole crapload of iSync/Bluetooth phone demos
New .mac features introduced
Phil Schiller has a Powermac do Photoshop against a P4
Steve drinks some bottled water
Steve says "look at the cheaper iBooks/Powerbooks"
Updated iMac lines
Price drop on eMac line
Steve drinks some bottled water
Keynote closes to the tune of "Loveshack" againI dread having to listen to the Beach Boys before every keynote. Even worse, Sarah McLachlan during the iTunes demo.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Kid Red


You forgot the 22" CD being dropped.

Apple has a 22" CD? That's a rather large compact disc. I really don't see the advantage a 22" CD would have over anything, even an LP.

Just how long is the playing time on this 22" CD?

[Huked on Fonick]

The Playing Time on the 22' CD is 9 days 2 hours 5 minutes 43 seconds and 28 milaseconds....its only used by pros due to is extremely large size and weight.... thats all the x-serve really is a giant cd player that plays 22' inch cd's they just market it as a computer.


:D

off get my nails done

-pat

[Phil Of Mac]

Now it's a 22 foot CD and not just a 22 inch CD? I hope they don't drop it on the crowd. That would cause injury.

[Les Kern]

Originally posted by Huked on Fonick
The Playing Time on the 22' CD is 9 days 2 hours 5 minutes 43 seconds and 28 milaseconds....its only used by pros due to is extremely large size and weight.... thats all the x-serve really is a giant cd player that plays 22' inch cd's they just market it as a computer.

Yeah, but the PC users are screaming that THEIR'S comes with a re-writable drive.

[Huked on Fonick]

Originally posted by Les Kern


Yeah, but the PC users are screaming that THEIR'S comes with a re-writable drive.

Yea but ours looks cooler and who cares that theres can rewite and 90 cents a peace there the cd's that u use and still aford to loose....thats allmost 3 times cheer than a standard CD-RW and i hear that apple is even working on a dishwasable verison because they get kind dirty.:)

[Les Kern]

Originally posted by Huked on Fonick


Yea but ours looks cooler and who cares that theres can rewite and 90 cents a peace there the cd's that u use and still aford to loose....thats allmost 3 times cheer than a standard CD-RW and i hear that apple is even working on a dishwasable verison because they get kind dirty.:)

There's something wrong with my glasses or I must be tired, because I have no idea what you just said.
It was a dig at apple, really. Remember when they, well, forget it.

Reminds me of another quote. Cicero said : "Tis a sad, sad thing that a man has neither the wit to speak well, nor the wisdom to curb his tongue." :)

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by Les Kern
Reminds me of another quote. Cicero said : "Tis a sad, sad thing that a man has neither the wit to speak well, nor the wisdom to curb his tongue." :)
Yes, it does seem like there is an overabundance of witless fools running around these days.

[voicegy]

Originally posted by Durandal7
Here's how I envision the keynote playing out:

Steve is 10 minutes late, Beach Boys tunes play until the keynote starts
etc., etc.

HAHAHA! Sounds like the last few that I saw!

At least they play nice classical music before the show.

It was kind of a bummer when the first lump-stick-rectangle sunflower iMac came out. Thanks to my being a freak and hanging out on rumor sites all night prior to the Stevenote, I tripped upon the Time Canada article, which ruined it for me, and for others I'm sure. But it was still something to get the scoop prior to its debut...remember those days? Boy, howdy, did Apple tease the heck out of us with those Countdown splash pages.

Other things I predict:

Steve clears his throat.
Drinks water from bottle that has no label.
Steve clears his throat.
Demos how great the updated iPhoto is with digital camera.
Discovers some moron let the batteries die on the camera.
Clears throat.
Clears throat.
Throws camera at stagehand and looks QUITE annoyed.
Tells us all to try it at home.
(later we find moron on freeway offramp holding sign):(

[JohnStrass]

Originally posted by Foocha
I think we'll see:

A new iPod with a color screen and QuickTime playback.

A new app called iVideo which is to movies what iPhoto is to Photos.

A new iMac with built-in Personal Video Recorder, which syncs videos with the new iPod.

iSync 1.0

iMovie 3

Bluetooth across the range.

Oh yes. Someone actually believes that iSynch will come out of beta! In only 6 months after its release?
John
- who will gladly give away his 10 gig iPod for one that has a CLie-like display for showing of iPhotos-

[wdlove]

Originally posted by MyLeftNut
Not sure if this is the right thread but I agree with Chad4Mac's predictions...not great but not bad either.

My prediction, right at the end of the keynote speech:

Jobs will say goodbye to the Macworld events (not the company) or at least hand it over to Phil Schiller.

I think the Macworld events will be phased out...think about it, no other company has to raise the bar so high everytime they have an event like Apple. Rather than do that they are positioning themselves with their retail stores such that they are getting good exposure on a broader level. They could easily have Macworld type events running over a couple of days running at each of the stores simultaneously where they can get better over all attendance than the currently dwindling attendances at macworld. Imagine...each store runs a mini macworld at the local level (even overseas :D ) and multiply the traffic that would pass through the store by a factor of ten and the total numbers would outstrip the current macworlds in numbers and exposure.

Anyway...I know we all love the hype of the current format but I think when you have such anticipation that cannot be matched it only hurts Apple.

It makes me sad, that this may very well become a reality. It would be enjoyable to have events at my local store. Would miss out on the educational opportunites available at a MW.

Hopefully if there were these events at the local stores, vendors would participate and offer special pricing.

Without Apple at a MW, attendance would drop off dramatically!

[Les Kern]

The only thing I'd REALLY like to see is a better mail client. Mac Mail is really pretty bad. I used it religiously for one month and was never sure something would come up missing. Therefore, with a crappy mail client, iSync is useless to me. I use Entourage. Can iSync work with it? The Mac Mail junk filter is great, but not enough to offset the power of Entourage. That said, serious iSync/Mail upgrades will make me switch in a heartbeat.
As for machines, I really don't care. Well, I CARE, but what I have is fine, and these upgrades drive themselves. Take care of the schools though.
A GOOD Mac-based browser would be nice, but IE is pretty good to me... except for the mysterious quits and other minor anomalies.
I use Photoshop, but iPhoto enhancements would be nice. Apple, why not buy Graphic Converter and roll it into iPhoto? Most folks don't use Layers and CMYK anyway.
iMovie could use a few enhancements... like better text support and maybe a non-linear component. Compositing maybe?
Get an Apple-branded two-button scroll mouse for crying out loud! I can't live without one.
My personal needs are few, but they had better do something about their chips pronto. 1.83Ghz is not enough, and the issue has never made much sense to me since the technology exists to get into the single-digit micron topography.
Heck, I could go on, and I expect to be WAY off like usual. One thing is for sure, it's always a nice ride isn't it? Last year when I saw the new iMac pop up on stage I though..ugh. Until I used one that afternoon. Fun stuff.

[pimentoLoaf]

Ooooh... a discounted 20gb iPod -- maybe for the cost of a 10gb model, and phaseout of the 5?

Certainly will get a 19" iMac if one is released. My 6100 needs retiring.