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NanoMeko
Sep 21, 2013, 09:20 AM
Hi everyone,

Loyal apple fan since the early 90s here. I went to an apple store today to buy an iphone 5s 32gb like I do every year but things felt different this year.

I had an iphone 5 black this year, recently gave it away in anticipation for the 5s.. so I went to the store to check out my future purchase and tried the "space gray" 5s. I didn't like the new home button, looks ugly as if a dark plastic sheet was put there to hide the camera and it's not the same color as the rest.

The phone itself feels like the 5 I spent a year with so pretty boring at this point. The silver and gold looked pretty feminine/childish to my taste.

So I asked a "genius" if I can get the "space gray" and the very tired "genius" told me that they do not know when they will get stock.

Basically I'm pretty bored and tired of the same cycle and the "limited stock" at launch thing they do every year. Release a phone, release enough of it amirite?

Also I don not think I want to spend another year with the same old phone as the 5.

What can I switch to? I will miss imessage and facetime but I have an ipad as well so it'll be ok. I just need a good device with a good gps and a nice screen.

Any good suggestions for an iphone 5s "killer" currently in the market or on the horizon that I should check out??

Thanks for reading this rant. I might come back to Apple if the iphone 6 is awesome and comes out it preorder or sane quantities at launch instead of in limited quantities to create hype.



JeffiJers
Sep 21, 2013, 09:30 AM
who is your provider? GSM?

Would 100% get the new nexus, or possibly Moto X (although read camera isnt the best).

Could never really go wrong with an S4. Big screen, all day battery life.

NanoMeko
Sep 21, 2013, 09:36 AM
who is your provider? GSM?

Would 100% get the new nexus, or possibly Moto X (although read camera isnt the best).

Could never really go wrong with an S4. Big screen, all day battery life.

Thank you for the suggestions. It needs to be a GSM phone. I will keep an eye on the new nexus. The Z1 one also looks very good to me. I would prefer the something with the standard google interface and not something that is too custom and has to wait too long for an android update.

T5BRICK
Sep 21, 2013, 09:48 AM
Thank you for the suggestions. It needs to be a GSM phone. I will keep an eye on the new nexus. The Z1 one also looks very good to me. I would prefer the something with the standard google interface and not something that is too custom and has to wait too long for an android update.

If you want stock Google, Nexus phones are the way to go. The Moto X is also very close to stock Google, although who knows how updates will go.

Alternately, you can go with one of the Google edition phones. They both get updates fairly quickly.

Finally... you could always look at custom ROMs for any phone. I've run the Google edition ROM on my HTC One, but I'm really happy with the HyperdroidAOXP ROM right now.

Frankied22
Sep 22, 2013, 09:17 AM
Nexus 5

bmac4
Sep 22, 2013, 03:30 PM
I have the nexus 4 and love it. Does not have LTE, so that is the downside to it, but still a great phone. I also have the HTC one which is what I am using right now. If you want something with a great screen, and great speakers. This is the way to go. You can get the Google Play edition that will keep you up to date with android. It just cost a bit more because it will be unlocked. Honestly I think you would really like the HTC one. You should go in the store and check it out.

zbarvian
Sep 22, 2013, 03:34 PM
I think the Nexus line is the closest thing to an Apple experience. Controlled hardware, software, good upgradeability, straight from Goog. See if that sparks some interest.

adder7712
Sep 22, 2013, 04:46 PM
The Moto X seems like a perfect candidate to you. It's nearly bone stock save for some Motorola-specific apps.

It does have a few tricks up it sleeves, primarily the always listening Google Now and the way notifications are handled on the Moto X.

Or if you're more adventurous, the HTC One or the Note 3.

JH-
Sep 22, 2013, 05:53 PM
The Moto X seems like a perfect candidate to you. It's nearly bone stock save for some Motorola-specific apps.

It does have a few tricks up it sleeves, primarily the always listening Google Now and the way notifications are handled on the Moto X.

Or if you're more adventurous, the HTC One or the Note 3.

This or any of the play store edition phones.

thejadedmonkey
Sep 22, 2013, 06:00 PM
I would definitely look at the Lumia 92x (depending on your carrier) or the Lumia 1020 if you're a photo buff. They have some nice features too, like they work with leather gloves on.

Of course, not everyone likes WP8 :cool:

Google is supposed to release the Nexus 5, which is about as "pure" android as you can get. I think Samsung has a "Google edition" s4, as does HTC. I'd look into them.

Motorola's Android lineup looks nice, but I haven't ever seen a Motorola "Droid" that wasn't on its last legs after 2 years.

JH-
Sep 22, 2013, 06:30 PM
I would definitely look at the Lumia 92x (depending on your carrier) or the Lumia 1020 if you're a photo buff. They have some nice features too, like they work with leather gloves on.

Of course, not everyone likes WP8 :cool:

Google is supposed to release the Nexus 5, which is about as "pure" android as you can get. I think Samsung has a "Google edition" s4, as does HTC. I'd look into them.

Motorola's Android lineup looks nice, but I haven't ever seen a Motorola "Droid" that wasn't on its last legs after 2 years.

The "Droids" were also severely crippled by Verizon bloat.

OneMike
Sep 22, 2013, 06:35 PM
I like the galaxy line. If I gave up on iOS. I'd get the s4

maxwelltech
Sep 22, 2013, 10:35 PM
The HTC One is my top choice for any iPhone switcher, for its premium construction and easy migration for iPhone users. It is still running 4.1 here in the US but it is going to receive the newest 4.3 in the very near future. Alternatively you can also check out the Moto X if you liked to design your own phone and/or wanted the always-on voice recognition.

adder7712
Sep 23, 2013, 01:22 AM
Also consider any of the GPE phones. They're both smooth and get timely updates.

mellofello
Sep 23, 2013, 04:53 AM
Go big. Note 3.

NanoMeko
Sep 23, 2013, 08:59 AM
Thanks everyone. Ordered the xperia Z1 with a free useless? sony smartwatch2.

This thing better be upgradabble to kitkat :)

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Is it a good idea to put a stock android rom on it? and if I do do is automatically get updates like on iOS or do I have to do it manually ?

JeffiJers
Sep 23, 2013, 09:41 AM
Thanks everyone. Ordered the xperia X1 with a free useless? sony smartwatch2.

This thing better be upgradabble to kitkat :)

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Is it a good idea to put a stock android rom on it? and if I do do is automatically get updates like on iOS or do I have to do it manually ?

huh? look like the X1 is an old windows phone

NanoMeko
Sep 23, 2013, 09:51 AM
huh? look like the X1 is an old windows phone

Ooops I meant Z1



http://www.sonymobile.com/fr/products/phones/xperia-z1/ (http://www.sonymobile.com/fr/products/phones/xperia-z1/)

GR33NIE
Sep 23, 2013, 10:18 AM
If I was in your situation, probably wait for the Nexus 5 ;)

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 23, 2013, 12:12 PM
Ooops I meant Z1



http://www.sonymobile.com/fr/products/phones/xperia-z1/ (http://www.sonymobile.com/fr/products/phones/xperia-z1/)

One of the best looking phones IMO. Even the UI skin looks good.

Cnasty
Sep 23, 2013, 01:26 PM
Something about those top and bottom spaces of black just throw it off for me.

Like there should be more screen or less bezel to really make it look nice.

Not an ugly phone by any means and looks solid from the reviews I have seen but that just irks me for some reason.

mellofello
Sep 23, 2013, 01:58 PM
The z1 is water proof right? I was strongly considering the S4 active or the Sony.

NanoMeko
Sep 23, 2013, 05:18 PM
The z1 is water proof right? I was strongly considering the S4 active or the Sony.

Yeap it's waterproof and has a dedicated photo button which makes it easier to use underwater.

I just ordered it because it seems really powerful and I actually like the design. It'll feel weird switching to android but I'm looking forward to the change.

chimpboy74
Sep 25, 2013, 03:13 PM
I really like my nexus 4 but I came from an iphone4 and loved the 200 price tag. Might be worth waiting to see what the nexus 5 offers

adder7712
Sep 25, 2013, 03:49 PM
One of the best looking phones IMO. Even the UI skin looks good.

Mind you Sony is shipping the Z1 with an inferior or a superior screen.

LSUtigers03
Sep 25, 2013, 03:52 PM
I'm extremely happy with the Moto X. For me it's the perfect phone. Near stock Android with a few very good and usable additions. A very nice and solid build that feels great in the hand. A large 4.7" screen in a compact physical package. I'm not a huge camera user so I didn't care that the camera in the Moto X wasn't great but I've heard that some of the shortcomings of the camera can be fixed via a software update. In the Moto X thread here there's a link towards the end that shows a nice improvement in the picture quality.

NanoMeko
Sep 28, 2013, 05:00 AM
After one day of usage I am quite happy with the Z1 it's actually very pleasant to use.

Some things I noticed that are better than iOS.

With multiple languages, the spell check automatically works. With iOS when I was switching between sms languages, I had to click on the globe icon, and switch keyboards for the dictionary to be activated. In the z1 I can use the qwerty language for both languages.

I like the sony interface I find it quite nice and easy to use. I thought I would hate it but pretty much everything is where it's supposed to be.

I also like the big screen it makes you want to use the phone more for more things.

One thing I hated though is the camera. Grainy as ****.

One awesome thing is that I was able to download mp3 by clicking on a link and doing "save as" something that doesn't exist as far as I know in ios.

Lastly, they have a thing to automatically launch actions once you plug in accessories, also it can can deactivate wifi automatically when it's out of range of your preferred spots to save batter.

cool stuff.

Oohara
Sep 28, 2013, 07:09 AM
One thing I hated though is the camera. Grainy as ****.

I was really surprised to read this, but then I found this review (http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z1-review-50012187/2/#camera) where they seem to find that auto shooting mode isn't able to bring out anything even close to what that camera is really capable of. Which I guess means that much of its issues could be fixed through a software update.

Have you tried shooting in manual mode?

NanoMeko
Sep 28, 2013, 11:47 AM
Haven't yet as they are quite a few setting to tinker with but hopefully a software update will will fix the automatic mode. The camera was a big selling point is Sony marketing.

Oh also set up face unlock. It works surprisingly well and fast on this phone although I am sure it is not the most secure.

Sounds Good
Sep 28, 2013, 01:19 PM
The HTC One is my top choice for any iPhone switcher, for its premium construction and easy migration for iPhone users..
Why might the HTC One be an easier migration for iPhone users than a different phone?

Thanks.

maxwelltech
Sep 29, 2013, 09:05 PM
Why might the HTC One be an easier migration for iPhone users than a different phone?

Thanks.The HTC One has the easiest migration out of all Android phones that I am aware of. Just do a iTunes backup first, then connect the HTC One and use the HTC Sync Manager, which will automatically read data from the iPhone backup and import them to the One. When I switched it imported most of my stuff on my iPhone, including all the photos and even the wallpapers, except for some app settings. The easy switch is one of the reasons why I recommend this phone so much.

NanoMeko
Sep 30, 2013, 02:27 AM
My z1 also has an iTunes type thing for syncing iTunes playlists, iPhoto albums etc.

NanoMeko
Nov 21, 2013, 03:16 AM
I would just like to update this thread and say that the camera of the z1 is actually not that bad after an update and actually looking at the pictures in the compuer. They looked worse on the phone itself.