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A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 05:22 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

Batman89
Sep 22, 2013, 05:31 PM
Bye.

munakib
Sep 22, 2013, 05:35 PM
I mean there were a few other threads which also shared your same view, not sure opening 1 more made a difference. I went back to iOS6 after testing all beta's upto GM. iOS7 needs JB desperately.

Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

luminouslight
Sep 22, 2013, 05:36 PM
Bye. Go to android/windows for a few months and find out it isn't as polished or refined as iOS and come back in a few months :)

asleep
Sep 22, 2013, 05:37 PM
Bye.

Don't let the door hit you in the azz on your way out. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090719103251/runescape/images/2/22/Wave_smiley.gif

vincebio
Sep 22, 2013, 05:40 PM
cheerio. get a life you utterly spoilt brat.
try living in a cardboard box one night..

JohnLT13
Sep 22, 2013, 05:40 PM
I went this road a few months back. Big waste of money and ended up back on iOS. Good luck with your endeavors .:apple:

APhillyApple
Sep 22, 2013, 05:48 PM
Peace out!! Judging from the responses you are getting.....well you already know.

50548
Sep 22, 2013, 05:48 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

Welcome to the post-SJ Apple, commanded now by the former COO Tim Cook. iOS7 is effectively a train wreck, a disaster of an OS, as can be seen by the thousands of threads against it - time to bring back Mike Markkula.

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 05:52 PM
I went this road a few months back. Big waste of money and ended up back on iOS. Good luck with your endeavors .:apple:

Keep talking to me dude. :) there's a reason I've been all Apple since '08 but this UI --:( I know its pathetic but I've even taken to emailing some of my favorite developers (like tapbots ) begging them no to conform to this, this, uh.. I didn't realize how much the appearance of iOS contributed to my overall satisfaction.. I mean, why make a LESS sophisticated UI?

The poor phone app..man.. :( :(

sparky1499
Sep 22, 2013, 05:58 PM
Haven't you left yet?

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 05:59 PM
Welcome to the post-SJ Apple, commanded now by the former COO Tim Cook. iOS7 is effectively a train wreck, a disaster of an OS, as can be seen by the thousands of threads against it - time to bring back Mike Markkula.

I'm not going to say the entire OS is bad. The new features and speed is great! I'm apparently WAY more superficial than I thought I was. Maybe its just a personal problem.... :-/

Zcott
Sep 22, 2013, 06:00 PM
Haven't you left yet?

His A4 processor is still processing what leaving means.

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 06:00 PM
Haven't you left yet?

Not yet.. maybe the shock will wear off but *whew!* man....

Shrink
Sep 22, 2013, 06:00 PM
Since you know that Ives hates you, I must infer that you know him well. And since you have given him an ultimatum (he "has six months to fix this"), I'm equally sure that he is, as we speak, fixing all the things that you assert, beyond all doubt or discussion, are wrong.

I think I can speak for all of us here when I say that we will all miss you terribly.



:rolleyes:

Virginaustralia
Sep 22, 2013, 06:01 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.
You better leave or you will get slapped by someone for calling iOS 7 those things.

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 06:04 PM
You better leave or you will get slapped by someone for calling iOS 7 those things.

What I'm struggling with is the UI, not the entire OS. The new features and speed are first class.

MacAPOL
Sep 22, 2013, 06:07 PM
You should buy an android device to realise how good, smooth and reliable ios is (ios6/7). I exchanged my iphone 5 for a galaxy s4 two months ago and i hate it. Lag everywhere, vomiting plastic feel. Octa core my as$. Going back to iphone in january 2014.

Shrink
Sep 22, 2013, 06:07 PM
What I'm struggling with is the UI, not the entire OS. The new features and speed are first class.

It leads me to wonder....if one has to "struggle" with accepting some pictures on a phone...what would one do if confronted with a real and significant challenge.

Djay
Sep 22, 2013, 06:10 PM
cheerio. get a life you utterly spoilt brat.
try living in a cardboard box one night..

As you can see op, the "in crowd" has zero tolerance for your taking the time to express your views of the new iOS. Apparently, your taking the time to do this is a total waste of time since they the "in crowd' intelligentsia are in sync with Mr. Ives' inside joke of which we the unwashed are absolutely clueless. Shame on us for expressing a negative view while we obviously should be out there serving the helpless of the world every waking moment. :confused:

Shrink
Sep 22, 2013, 06:13 PM
As you can see op, the "in crowd" has zero tolerance for your taking the time to express your views of the new iOS. Apparently, your taking the time to do this is a total waste of time since they the "in crowd' intelligentsia are in sync with Mr. Ives' inside joke of which we the unwashed are absolutely clueless. Shame on us for expressing a negative view while we obviously should be out there serving the helpless of the world every waking moment. :confused:

I might suggest that it is not the expression of negative views that has drawn a negative response...but rather how those views were expressed.

How we say things is often as important, and at time more important, than what we say.

Communication is more than pure content...:)

And for the music lovers...

OOWO--z1S8A

aquadisiac
Sep 22, 2013, 06:19 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

ok... whats the point of this thread?

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 06:27 PM
It leads me to wonder....if one has to "struggle" with accepting some pictures on a phone...what would one do if confronted with a real and significant challenge.

Maybe I'm the achetypical user that likes 3d buttons, metallic textures, etc. This is going to sound super dorky but I even miss the silver slider button on the "slide to uinlock" widget. I just don't get was wrong with the whole skeuomorphic (excuse spelling ) approach. Sure the game center felt was overkill but my notepad?? and what happened to my moicrophone and vol meter on my voice recorder?? I feel like someone broke into my house and took all my coolest stuff.

"Its only been two days.. Its only been two days.. "

But your orig point is a good one.... I honestly am never psyched about change. :-/

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ok... whats the point of this thread?
Catharsis? Getting a sense of what my fellow enthusiasts think?

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I might suggest that it is not the expression of negative views that has drawn a negative response...but rather how those views were expressed.

How we say things is often as important, and at time more important, than what we say.

Communication is more than pure content...:)

And for the music lovers...

YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OOWO--z1S8A)

Also sorry if my first post was a little obtuse.. I'm just having a rough weekend y'all....

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Welcome to the post-SJ Apple, commanded now by the former COO Tim Cook. iOS7 is effectively a train wreck, a disaster of an OS, as can be seen by the thousands of threads against it - time to bring back Mike Markkula.

*sigh*

darngooddesign
Sep 22, 2013, 06:34 PM
It's not going to change so you should prob leave now. Get a head start on those six months.

TheRainKing
Sep 22, 2013, 06:34 PM
What I'm struggling with is the UI, not the entire OS. The new features and speed are first class.

Most people on this forum have no artistic sense or feelings, so you're basically talking to a brick wall.

I feel your pain though. :D

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 06:45 PM
You should buy an android device to realise how good, smooth and reliable ios is (ios6/7). I exchanged my iphone 5 for a galaxy s4 two months ago and i hate it. Lag everywhere, vomiting plastic feel. Octa core my as$. Going back to iphone in January 2014.

Dude I KNOW. I've got two friends that had to reformat (WHAT??) their androids recently, they worry about keeping their virus protection up to date (WHAT?? ), their phone "apps" crash during conversations, we all know this riff. I try to be gracious. sometimes I succeed hahaha.

You're the third person already that has said they dipped their toe in, had it bitten off, and came back. :)

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You should buy an android device to realise how good, smooth and reliable ios is (ios6/7). I exchanged my iphone 5 for a galaxy s4 two months ago and i hate it. Lag everywhere, vomiting plastic feel. Octa core my as$. Going back to iphone in january 2014.

Hey if you're going to wait till Jan maybe you should hold on a little more. iPhone 6 1Q 2014 right?

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Most people on this forum have no artistic sense or feelings, so you're basically talking to a brick wall.

I feel your pain though. :D

Thanks man, I seriously appreciate it! :)

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It's not going to change so you should prob leave now. Get a head start on those six months.

I got four years in dude; I owe myself six months. :)

darngooddesign
Sep 22, 2013, 06:58 PM
I got four years in dude; I owe myself six months. :)

But Ive obviously did this to you. He hates you after all. Why would you stand for such treatment?

Djay
Sep 22, 2013, 07:00 PM
Most people on this forum have no artistic sense or feelings, so you're basically talking to a brick wall.

I feel your pain though. :D

Yes indeed. Op you likely recall the classic 1984 Apple TV commercial of the distance runner tossing the hammer into the giant video screen while the massive brain dead audience was raptly soaking in the message of big brother? Well, here you, the op, come along and throw an unwelcome "hammer" into the Apple "screen" amongst Mr. Ive's rapt followers. You have unleashed their fury despite their protests that you are investing too much energy into the mere trivia of an operating system. Fascinating isn't it.

Shrink
Sep 22, 2013, 07:08 PM
Most people on this forum have no artistic sense or feelings, so you're basically talking to a brick wall.

It's true. We're all a bunch of clods.:p

The philistines rule!

:rolleyes: :D

Gooberton
Sep 22, 2013, 07:29 PM
I went this road a few months back. Big waste of money and ended up back on iOS. Good luck with your endeavors .:apple:

What did you try? In thinking of trying note 3, I thought I didn't want a bigger screen but I do

Zerilos
Sep 22, 2013, 07:32 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.


I'm sure he's giving your threat the attention it deserves.

JohnLT13
Sep 22, 2013, 07:35 PM
What did you try? In thinking of trying note 3, I thought I didn't want a bigger screen but I do

HTC One. Very nice phone but the OS is far from smooth compared to iOS. I wanted to like it but in the end well I just didn't.:(

JWest
Sep 22, 2013, 07:36 PM
I love how people feel so imasculated by a little splash of color.

sviato
Sep 22, 2013, 07:42 PM
You seem to have an issue with change. How do you plan to adapt to another UI if you can't adapt to this one?

Let it grow on you.

djtech42
Sep 22, 2013, 07:47 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

I'm sure Jony is just rushing to fix non-existent problems for somebody who is going to leave iOS anyways and feels threatened by something as simple as color. Also, somebody who mocked his nickname and threatened him to redesign it completely in six months, half of what it took to redesign iOS in the first place.

I hate to be so blunt, but I'm getting tired of pointless iOS 7 hate by people who have used it for only a couple of days.

ra4oasis
Sep 22, 2013, 08:26 PM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

How do you figure iOS 7 has fewer customizable options? If anything the OS feels more customizable to me, since all the transparencies change depending on your wallpaper.

iDevice Barbie colors? Come on now, even you said that's a little superficial.

There is no such thing as oversimplified, at least to me. But I love simple interfaces.

"Flat" isn't even the right word to describe the os (I think), it just was the trendy term to use. iOS 7 is layered, not flat.

And what "non-existent" problems did Jony fix?

Jony Ive is the UX designer for the long haul, sorry to tell you. I personally wonder if he'll be running Apple one day. The press, and almost everyone I've talked too love the design behind iOS 7. He's not going to magically change things back in 6 months for you, or anyone.

greenythebeast
Sep 22, 2013, 08:28 PM
Fanboy alert in this thread haha

r0k
Sep 22, 2013, 08:42 PM
I posted this elsewhere first, but it really belongs here at MR as well. Since there are already so many dozens of "hate iOS7 threads," I picked this one to add my thoughts. And you know what really upsets me? I just read this evening that after spending 9 hours taking my daughter back up to college so I was too busy to roll my wife's phone back, Apple has decided to stop signing iOS6 ALREADY so I can't get my wife back to the OS she knows and loves. Maybe if I take her phone back to Apple and ask for a replacement, but I digress. I think the pendulum swung way too far over to the "plain white OS" this time! While I'm not ready to go running over to Samsung, Apple has got some work to do to redeem themselves. BTW, yesterday I was in Best Buy and noticed there were people at the Samsung booth, both staff and customers while the Apple booth was deserted. Also the Samsung booth was constructed to be tall enough that you can't see the Apple booth from the store entrance, only the Samsung booth. I thought Tim Cook and his team were on top of things like this? Anyway, I digressed again. Let me get to why despite the fact I find it easy enough to use most of the time, for many users I think iOS7 stinks.

I downloaded iOS7 for me. It's ok. Just ok. I mean I like the quick setup screen. I've gotten used to the half screen swipe to get to Spotlight. But the whiteness of the UI is overpowering. If you're gonna make something so strongly monochromatic, you owe it to the user to allow them to tone it down. Normally I hate light grey on dark grey stuff but skinny black text swimming in an ocean of white is awful. It's far to bright to be used at night. What the heck were they thinking getting rid of ALL clues to let the user know how the UI works? I mean spinners should look like slot machine wheels, not static lists that a person has to tinker with to see how they work. My wife stopped at the time setting screen. And I mean stopped. She stared at it for a good 10 minutes before handing it to me. I remembered (purely from memory and not from anything I could see on the screen) that the date and time settings are wheels you can spin. When I showed her, she said "Oh yeah, now I remember." Look. When we used mainframes, the user could be expected to remember what a chunk of text did on a green screen. Now that we have thousands of pixels, why not spend a few of them letting a novice (or tired expert) user know he's dealing with a slot machine spinner and not a static list of dates to click on?

Let me be blunt. Apple screwed the pooch on iOS7. Jony Ive may be an industrial design genius but remember it wasn't just Scott Forestall that liked skeuomorphisms, it was Steve Jobs. I imagine that bland white screen of very few non-white pixels appeals to some aesthetic. I'm not there to look at the thing and admire it. I'm there to use it. Ugly is better than pretty if it's easier to use. There's a reason digital slot machines still show columns of spinning fruit on an LCD screen. That particular skeuomorphism is necessary to communicate to the user the kind of machine he is playing. Otherwise why not simply scan the rfid in the user's comp card as they enter the casino and let them know whether they've won by the time they walk up to the machine? Sometimes less really is... less.

TonyK
Sep 22, 2013, 08:43 PM
For me I created a black background image and made that the background for my screen. My lock screen background did not change from a personal photo.

I increased contrast and turned on bold text. Personally I like it this way better than iOS 6.

Some of the problems listed below are not going to change. In this business the companies have to create demand or their sales go flat. They do this by releasing new products. In our case that is iOS and hardware that runs it.

Otherwise we all would still be using the first version of anything and no company could long afford to stay in business. Heck even typewriters evolved over the years until they were no longer needed.

Played with a Windows Metro phone Saturday. It is ugly and difficult to use. Android devices leave me cold.

Look at it this way, if you move to a different system you will need to re-purchase all your applications again for that phone OS. Give it some time and wait and see what the jail-breakers can do with iOS 7.

Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

Armen
Sep 22, 2013, 08:45 PM
Have a nice day.

silver8ack
Sep 22, 2013, 08:47 PM
The notes app looks too bland. Other than that I love everything about ios7

A4Fiend
Sep 22, 2013, 11:00 PM
I posted this elsewhere first, but it really belongs here at MR as well. Since there are already so many dozens of "hate iOS7 threads," I picked this one to add my thoughts. And you know what really upsets me? I just read this evening that after spending 9 hours taking my daughter back up to college so I was too busy to roll my wife's phone back, Apple has decided to stop signing iOS6 ALREADY so I can't get my wife back to the OS she knows and loves. Maybe if I take her phone back to Apple and ask for a replacement, but I digress. I think the pendulum swung way too far over to the "plain white OS" this time! While I'm not ready to go running over to Samsung, Apple has got some work to do to redeem themselves. BTW, yesterday I was in Best Buy and noticed there were people at the Samsung booth, both staff and customers while the Apple booth was deserted. Also the Samsung booth was constructed to be tall enough that you can't see the Apple booth from the store entrance, only the Samsung booth. I thought Tim Cook and his team were on top of things like this? Anyway, I digressed again. Let me get to why despite the fact I find it easy enough to use most of the time, for many users I think iOS7 stinks.

I downloaded iOS7 for me. It's ok. Just ok. I mean I like the quick setup screen. I've gotten used to the half screen swipe to get to Spotlight. But the whiteness of the UI is overpowering. If you're gonna make something so strongly monochromatic, you owe it to the user to allow them to tone it down. Normally I hate light grey on dark grey stuff but skinny black text swimming in an ocean of white is awful. It's far to bright to be used at night. What the heck were they thinking getting rid of ALL clues to let the user know how the UI works? I mean spinners should look like slot machine wheels, not static lists that a person has to tinker with to see how they work. My wife stopped at the time setting screen. And I mean stopped. She stared at it for a good 10 minutes before handing it to me. I remembered (purely from memory and not from anything I could see on the screen) that the date and time settings are wheels you can spin. When I showed her, she said "Oh yeah, now I remember." Look. When we used mainframes, the user could be expected to remember what a chunk of text did on a green screen. Now that we have thousands of pixels, why not spend a few of them letting a novice (or tired expert) user know he's dealing with a slot machine spinner and not a static list of dates to click on?

Let me be blunt. Apple screwed the pooch on iOS7. Jony Ive may be an industrial design genius but remember it wasn't just Scott Forestall that liked skeuomorphisms, it was Steve Jobs. I imagine that bland white screen of very few non-white pixels appeals to some aesthetic. I'm not there to look at the thing and admire it. I'm there to use it. Ugly is better than pretty if it's easier to use. There's a reason digital slot machines still show columns of spinning fruit on an LCD screen. That particular skeuomorphism is necessary to communicate to the user the kind of machine he is playing. Otherwise why not simply scan the rfid in the user's comp card as they enter the casino and let them know whether they've won by the time they walk up to the machine? Sometimes less really is... less.

Very well constructed post! Thanks for re-posting sir.

Virginaustralia
Sep 23, 2013, 01:49 AM
It leads me to wonder....if one has to "struggle" with accepting some pictures on a phone...what would one do if confronted with a real and significant challenge.

Youre exactly right. The same apps are still there i dont know how anyone could struggle

dontpannic
Sep 23, 2013, 02:02 AM
Bye. Go to android/windows for a few months and find out it isn't as polished or refined as iOS and come back in a few months :)

Meh, I can cope. I still have my 4S but my main phone is currently a GPE Galaxy S4. It's a great handset and has a number of things that iOS desperately needs - and to be fair, the UI isn't as unpolished or unrefined as people make out.

Tamagotchi
Sep 23, 2013, 03:03 AM
Bye. Go to android/windows for a few months and find out it isn't as polished or refined as iOS and come back in a few months :)

You are mistaken... Try stock Android on a Nexus 4, you'll see that it is iOS7 which is indeed not polished at all.

maflynn
Sep 23, 2013, 05:21 AM
Bye. Go to android/windows for a few months and find out it isn't as polished or refined as iOS and come back in a few months :)

I have to disagree, Android is very polished. Its a different platform that needs time to adjust too, but overall, its an excellent OS.

OP, if you're not happy with iOS, then move one, simple as that. I prefer iOS for a number of reasons, but I have used Android in the past. Both platforms have advantages and disadvantages.

I disagree with the sentiment that Apple screwed the pooch in iOS7. I think there's a lot of good in there, and other areas that need to be addressed. I think their first order of business was to remove as much skeuomorphism as they could. They did that from all these stock apps (but not all the apple apps like find my friends) and add some missing functionality.

Overall, its a step in the right direction, again more evolutionary then revolutionary which is apple's typical approach.

chrf097
Sep 23, 2013, 06:22 AM
Well folks I never thought it would end like this. After happily owning four iphones in a row (3 3g 4 5 ) and one ipad the iOS7 UI is going to make me walk away from Apple.

Some things I've wrestled with --


Radical changes / Fewer customization options.
"iDevice barbie" colors
Over-simplified
Flat
Solutions to non-existent probs


"Jony" has six months to fix this. Well, I hope I last that long. I was really excited about the 64 bit world too, but I just can't take this.

I'm sure "Jony" has bigger things to worry about than someone with no influential power whatsoever on the internet not liking his design

XboxMySocks
Sep 23, 2013, 06:27 AM
Keep talking to me dude. :) there's a reason I've been all Apple since '08 but this UI --:( I know its pathetic but I've even taken to emailing some of my favorite developers (like tapbots ) begging them no to conform to this, this, uh.. I didn't realize how much the appearance of iOS contributed to my overall satisfaction.. I mean, why make a LESS sophisticated UI?

The poor phone app..man.. :( :(

Woah, since '08. A true Apple veteran. :rolleyes:

MVRL
Sep 23, 2013, 07:16 AM
what I don't understand is why cry about it when you want to leave? Why do you have the urge to announce it and let everyone know? It's not like all of a sudden the Apple designers are just gonna revert all the changes just for you. It's also not like everyone here cares if you want to stay or go.

"Jony has 6 months to fix this or I leave" Hahahaha, like he cares if you leave or not. Like anyone but yourself care if you leave or not.

Furthermore, why do people have this retarded sense of entitlement? HEY, I stayed with Apple for N years, and I should be be able to dictate their direction. You are a consumer like any other, not a designer working for Apple. When Diablo was in beta, so many people cried about not getting into the closed beta even though they have been playing blizzard games forever. Like, what the heck is with people nowadays? Why are there so many self-entitled people roaming loose? You are not that special despite what your mother told you.

TheRainKing
Sep 23, 2013, 07:51 AM
It's true. We're all a bunch of clods.:p

The philistines rule!

:rolleyes: :D

I'm not calling anyone stupid but I am surprised by how many people are unable to understand the difference a UI can make to someones experience. I'm not talking about the obvious stuff like hating the way something looks, I'm talking about how a product makes someone feel. Theres a certain spirit and feeling you got from using the old iOS that made you fall in love with it, but for a lot of us that spirit no longer exists in iOS 7. It's kind of soulless. :(

byke
Sep 23, 2013, 08:42 AM
I have had numerous people ask me how to roll back to IOS 6 as they didn't like the problems associated with ios 7 - only to find out they were not allowed to.

Why would Apple stop rollbacks, if it was so confident in its software?

Merkyworks
Sep 23, 2013, 09:05 AM
....but for a lot of us that spirit no longer exists in iOS 7. It's kind of soulless. :(

Lets just step back and contemplate what you are saying "spirit" "soulless".....It's a bloody phone and UI/OS, its not a person!:confused:

omenatarhuri
Sep 23, 2013, 09:12 AM
If the UI is such a rock in the shoe, perhaps you could try to jailbrake it and customize it to your preferred style?

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Theres a certain spirit and feeling you got from using the old iOS that made you fall in love with it, but for a lot of us that spirit no longer exists in iOS 7. It's kind of soulless. :(
I think I know how you feel... I meditated on this and the revelation is that in the world of 2013+ technology will be so ubiquitous that the only way you'll be able to live with it is for the tech to be "soulless" or as minimal standing-out from life as possible. The design idiom is that the tech is invisible and intuitive, what is what Mr. Ive said on the video about Touch ID.

Shrink
Sep 23, 2013, 09:27 AM
I'm not calling anyone stupid but I am surprised by how many people are unable to understand the difference a UI can make to someones experience. I'm not talking about the obvious stuff like hating the way something looks, I'm talking about how a product makes someone feel. Theres a certain spirit and feeling you got from using the old iOS that made you fall in love with it, but for a lot of us that spirit no longer exists in iOS 7. It's kind of soulless. :(

It's markings on an electronic device!

I suggest that that this is a bit frightening to use such words to describe such insignificant stuff.

And what words are left to describe the truly significant, if they are used in relation to the trivial.

Just one man's opinion, of course....:)

Gmerdude
Sep 23, 2013, 09:30 AM
It feels like androids and windows phone to me so if u do switch ur not going to see much of a difference man

TheRainKing
Sep 23, 2013, 10:39 AM
Lets just step back and contemplate what you are saying "spirit" "soulless".....It's a bloody phone and UI/OS, its not a person!:confused:

If the UI is such a rock in the shoe, perhaps you could try to jailbrake it and customize it to your preferred style?

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I think I know how you feel... I meditated on this and the revelation is that in the world of 2013+ technology will be so ubiquitous that the only way you'll be able to live with it is for the tech to be "soulless" or as minimal standing-out from life as possible. The design idiom is that the tech is invisible and intuitive, what is what Mr. Ive said on the video about Touch ID.

It's markings on an electronic device!

I suggest that that this is a bit frightening to use such words to describe such insignificant stuff.

And what words are left to describe the truly significant, if they are used in relation to the trivial.

Just one man's opinion, of course....:)

You guys mock me, but Steve himself said similar things about Apple products. I bet you never laughed at him. :D

r0k
Sep 23, 2013, 11:01 AM
For me I created a black background image and made that the background for my screen. My lock screen background did not change from a personal photo.

I increased contrast and turned on bold text. Personally I like it this way better than iOS 6.

Some of the problems listed below are not going to change. In this business the companies have to create demand or their sales go flat. They do this by releasing new products. In our case that is iOS and hardware that runs it.

Otherwise we all would still be using the first version of anything and no company could long afford to stay in business. Heck even typewriters evolved over the years until they were no longer needed.

Played with a Windows Metro phone Saturday. It is ugly and difficult to use. Android devices leave me cold.

Look at it this way, if you move to a different system you will need to re-purchase all your applications again for that phone OS. Give it some time and wait and see what the jail-breakers can do with iOS 7.

I turned on high contrast and bold font. It's a LOT better. I'll apply this fix on my wife's phone as well.

But what's this whole reboot to go to bold font thing about? :eek::confused: Kinda reminds me of Windows 3.1. Want to change fonts? Reboot. Want to change ip address? Reboot. Want to install a trivial bit of software? Reboot. I sincerely hope Apple fixes the reboot to go bold flaw by iOS7.1!

Armen
Sep 23, 2013, 11:04 AM
It feels like androids and windows phone to me so if u do switch ur not going to see much of a difference man

He will see plenty of Difference actually:


Windows Phone- You know you're using a Windows phone when you go to the Appstore and there aren't as many Windows Apps as there are on the Apple or Android app stores.

Android Phone- You know you're using a Android phone immediately when you can't uninstall the bloatware that the carrier loaded on your phone. Nova Demo anyone? how about Sprint Nascar? I know we all LOVE Nascar :rolleyes:

P.S. Rooting and loading a custom ROM is not a normal user's option. I'm sure all the things people don't like with iOS 7 will also show up in Jailbreak tweaks but I'm not bringing that up either because its not for everyone.

moargolems
Sep 23, 2013, 11:09 AM
You guys mock me, but Steve himself said similar things about Apple products. I bet you never laughed at him. :D
Well, I almost die of laughter everytime when I think about the hockey puck mouse.

Dude, that guy is dead and your granny OS is too. Actually, your idol said it better than anyone: "Death is very likely the single best invention of life. It's life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. -Steve Jobs

Stop living in the past.

barkmonster
Sep 23, 2013, 11:11 AM
They're good at adding solutions for non-existent problems in recent years.

My 2 pet peeves with the iPhone/iTunes for quite some time now is this:

The column browser mode in iTunes is the only useful view. Why default to the lousy album view and to add insult to injury, remove the column view all together with devices? It's unintuitive and there's no question it's removed previously not broken functionality.

The Podcast App. pointless and for anyone who regularly wants to listen to long playlists of DJ sets released as Podcasts along with mixes from other sources, forcing me to use a pointless waste of space to listen to them is annoying and unnecessary.

Krazy Bill
Sep 23, 2013, 11:40 AM
what I don't understand is why cry about it when you want to leave?It's a plea for help and serves as cheap therapy. All based on a dislike for how the UI looks on a smartphone. MR is full of such threads that are meant to be the creator's personal chat room. Looking for attention. Any kind of attention - nothing more.

Shrink
Sep 23, 2013, 11:52 AM
You guys mock me, but Steve himself said similar things about Apple products. I bet you never laughed at him. :D

Since he was just a smart guy who ran a successful company...and not a god worthy of worship, of course I laughed at him.

Well, to be absolutely truthful...for the most part, I didn't care much at all about what he said.

HIMAN1998
Sep 23, 2013, 11:56 AM
Bye. Go to android/windows for a few months and find out it isn't as polished or refined as iOS and come back in a few months :)

I switched to Android in January and it was better than iOS for me. I went to WP8 after that and I'm probably going back to Android. You fanboys need to stop worshipping your iDevices. I'm not an Apple hater, in fact this is being typed on a MacBook. I just don't understand what some people do with it. Don't spend the money for a Facebook machine, buy it if you need it.

XboxMySocks
Sep 23, 2013, 12:01 PM
Lets just step back and contemplate what you are saying "spirit" "soulless".....It's a bloody phone and UI/OS, its not a person!:confused:

To be fair, 'spirit' is not limited to the living. Spirit: "those qualities regarded as forming the definitive or typical elements in character" Something almost as sentient as a device can almost definitely have spirit (i.e. Siri, the way something looks and feels).