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mellofello
Sep 23, 2013, 05:06 AM
Curious what peoples wishlists are for the new apple tv. I am pretty satisfied with mine. I don't really pine for any better hardware. My only wish is adding a app store, and building in support for more video codecs. I think the a5 could run some decent games.

Sky is the limit. What do you guys want?



t0mbola
Sep 23, 2013, 05:10 AM
Curious what peoples wishlists are for the new apple tv. I am pretty satisfied with mine. I don't really pine for any better hardware. My only wish is adding a app store, and building in support for more video codecs. I think the a5 could run some decent games.
Sky is the limit. What do you guys want?

App Store for channels/apps
Updated UI
Lower the airplay mirroring lag to allow playing games on TV using MFi controllers

Lord Hamsa
Sep 23, 2013, 07:45 AM
1) Built-in iTunes client that can be pointed to a network share or an external USB drive
2) UI redesign for easier browsing
3) Ability to live-stream from any source that produces an H.264 stream
(3a) Or at least ATV apps for things like Elgato EyeTV or SiliconDust tuners.

HobeSoundDarryl
Sep 23, 2013, 08:16 AM
This wish list thread has been done over and over (we just never seem to get the bigger wishes). Along with what's already been shared:


Get toe-to-toe with BD on video & audio capabilities, meaning giving the box the horses to play at a higher bit rate, etc than now AND allowing much more modern audio codecs than 1992's Dolby Digital. Don't capitulate on at least being a direct competitor to BD for the 2 benefits that matter most in these kinds of boxes (picture & sound quality). This is the one I want most
Go back toward the 1st gen UI where our own "movies" were in "movies", our own "tv shows" were in "tv shows" etc. And respect the tags like it did in gen 1; for example, if one tags all of the movies in a series (Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc) with the same "Show" tag, show just one line item in the main movie menu: if you click that line it then shows the 6 Star Wars movies or the 8 Harry Potter movies, etc. Same with TV shows- don't list them all by season in the main menu. Put one line item for each show in the main menu and then click into seasons and shows. All of this was in the 2007 edition.
Normalize that USB port so that those wanting local storage of their media can attach whatever level of local storage they want. This is the much wanted "turn off the computer" or "take the computer out of the house and others will still be able to watch our own media on :apple:TV" wishes. Gen 1 had local storage but Apple couldn't ever get the storage right for everyone. The hackers found a way to put up to 2TB (or maybe more) on the USB port and that did cover almost everyone who wanted this particular benefit. Normalize the port and revive that bit of software to use local storage and those that want it would be able to have it (and those that don't wouldn't be paying for local storage they don't want).
Normalize that USB port so that app store apps that can leverage some hardware add-on could link to that add-on through the USB port. For example, this might deliver elgato-like products and functionality in the :apple:TV. There's a pool of people that wish this box could do double duty as a DVR and/or disc player too. Hardware add on + app could deliver on those wishes.
Add the option for it to play meda stored on NAS
Native frame rate pass through so that it can pass frame rates other than 30fps to our HDTVs. IMO, this should at least include 24fps (typical of film) and 60fps (increasingly typical of many HD camcorders and cameras). Personally, I've been shooting in 60fps for years now and wish I would haven't to throw out every other frame for an :apple:TV movie file (60fps frame rate yields smoother motion)
Include stereo audio out for those with Zone 2 receivers (which generally require analog audio for Zone 2)
Quit the "hobby" excuse and spend a tiny fraction of all that cash to assign a bigger, dedicated team to this product. Make more deals than relatively tiny Roku for content (Roku shouldn't be able to outdo mighty Apple in this way except that Roku seems FOCUSED on this kind of product where Apple thinks it's some kind of "hobby"). Get serious about this product.


I'm pretty sure there's a few more but there are plenty of :apple:TV wish list threads loaded with these same kinds of answers.

mslide
Sep 23, 2013, 09:57 AM
Update the UI and merge content from the different apps so it's easier to see everything that I can watch. For example, I want to only go to one place to see all my favorite movies, regardless if they are from iTunes purchases, my iTunes library, netflix instant queue, hulu, etc. Same for TV shows. The current UI kind of sucks.

OMAC83
Sep 23, 2013, 08:24 PM
Safari!!!

bozzykid
Sep 23, 2013, 08:52 PM
The biggest problem is the UI not the hardware. It is very dated. It needs a modern UI with an ability to search multiple apps for content.

Uofmtiger
Sep 23, 2013, 10:23 PM
Something like Plex or XBMC. They need more transcoding options. Being locked into Apple formats is the main issue with the AppleTV. My Appletv2 is jailbroken and runs ATV Flash, but being locked into 720p is a bummer.

bozzykid
Sep 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
Being locked into Apple formats is the main issue with the AppleTV.

That isn't going to change.

Otago Lad
Sep 24, 2013, 12:48 AM
Native frame rate pass through so that it can pass frame rates other than 30fps to our HDTVs.

This and Wireless ac - pretty sure this is coming as there is no reason to produce the new Airport Extreme if other Apple products don't get it.

priitv8
Sep 24, 2013, 01:00 AM
Being locked into Apple formats is the main issue with the AppleTV.H.264 aka AVC is an international standard, IMHO. So is the MPEG-4 container (.mp4 aka .m4v), by now at least. The only real contender is MKV, but it is mainly a black market format (I mean: who else besides rippers uses it?), so it remains to be seen, if and when will studios stand behind it.

NinjaDuck
Sep 24, 2013, 01:16 AM
1. Ability to stream from AFP/SMB/FTP
2. DTS passthrough, it doesn't have to be DTS-MA. Core DTS is fine.
3. More transcoding options!
4. Improved remote. Current remote is horrible. It's hard to navigate using that thing!
5. Revamped UI.

That's basically it. I don't think the feature I listed is gonna be implemented in the near future. One can only dream. :)

Ballis
Sep 24, 2013, 02:14 AM
Appstore and a little storage.
Thats the only thing I can think of that seems viable.

- With the version update just now, a redesigned UI seem unlikely.
- 4K is to early
- More CPU doesnt really add anything performance wise (unless they add games)
- Wireless AC could be implemented but its hard to see how the ATV would benefit. Apples own 1080p content has an average bitrate of about 5mbps.
- Safari support would be pretty nice.

octatonic
Sep 24, 2013, 02:20 AM
VPN support.
It won't happen though.

BBC iPlayer app & other UK TV stations.

mellofello
Sep 24, 2013, 03:36 AM
Just FYI on certain routers you can apply VPN at the gateway level. Let's you stream iPlayer, and other region locked content.

Devie
Sep 24, 2013, 05:51 AM
Honestly I just want it to fricken work!

blanka
Sep 24, 2013, 05:57 AM
I hope they make it gold, make it 500$ and that nobody cares about Apple TV any longer. :)
People don't understand that they basically just buy a flawed wireless HDMI cable for very much money.

eejits
Sep 24, 2013, 06:08 AM
I think someone mentioned this before, but to have the AppleTV control my SKY+HD box via HDMI pass-thru (or whatever) so everything came through it would be awesome. Obviously Apple would need to update the UI as well though.

That and the obligitory App Store.....

George

Nightarchaon
Sep 24, 2013, 07:03 AM
This is an easy question to answer.

1. Itunes Extra Support
2. BBC iPlayer, 40D, and other channels "apps" so i dont have to use all my wifi bandwidth streaming a blocky mess Times Capsule -> iPad -> Time Capsule -> Apple TV
3. thats about it.

spatlese44
Sep 24, 2013, 10:11 AM
I want a camera, microphone and FaceTime. How hard would that be?

WilliamLondon
Sep 24, 2013, 10:28 AM
A camera, microphone and FaceTime on an AppleTV? NO!

What I would like, and many here have already stated this: an SDK and an App Store, that's what I want for starters.

Uofmtiger
Sep 24, 2013, 10:55 AM
That isn't going to change.If that is true, I can't think of any reason I would want to upgrade. My iPhone will play any format I throw at it with AirVideo, Plex and other apps. In other words, the Appletv is way behind iOS and needs to catch up.

If they keep it the same, why would I want to update? Money would be better spent on a Roku to combine with my current AppleTV.

bozzykid
Sep 24, 2013, 11:15 AM
If that is true, I can't think of any reason I would want to upgrade. My iPhone will play any format I throw at it with AirVideo, Plex and other apps. In other words, the Appletv is way behind iOS and needs to catch up.

If they keep it the same, why would I want to update? Money would be better spent on a Roku to combine with my current AppleTV.

The Apple TV isn't going to grow by expanding it's local streaming options. It will grow by expanding their internet streaming options and improving the UI in which that can take place.

spatlese44
Sep 24, 2013, 11:37 AM
A camera, microphone and FaceTime on an AppleTV? NO!

What I would like, and many here have already stated this: an SDK and an App Store, that's what I want for starters.

I figured indifference would have been the most likely response to my post, but outright disdane kind of surprised me. Perhaps you're suggesting Apple should put what resources it's willing to put into the device toward more worthy endeavors like a SDK and App Store. OK, I get that. Why they haven't done it yet I have no idea.

As for the FaceTime idea, this is more than a novelty for me. I often spend 20 or 30 minutes a day talking to my wife who, because of her profession, spends about 1/3 of the year away from home. Sometimes we do FaceTime, but holding an iPhone for a half hour to look at a 3.5 inch screen is far from what I would call an ideal experience, especially consdering that I have a 46 inch HDTV connected to the AppleTV. Conveniently, The AppleTV already has the h.264 hardware that's needed for FaceTime. They could at least enable one to hook up through USB.

WilliamLondon
Sep 24, 2013, 11:56 AM
I figured indifference would have been the most likely response to my post, but outright disdane kind of surprised me. Perhaps you're suggesting Apple should put what resources it's willing to put into the device toward more worthy endeavors like a SDK and App Store. OK, I get that. Why they haven't done it yet I have no idea.

As for the FaceTime idea, this is more than a novelty for me. I often spend 20 or 30 minutes a day talking to my wife who, because of her profession, spends about 1/3 of the year away from home. Sometimes we do FaceTime, but holding an iPhone for a half hour to look at a 3.5 inch screen is far from what I would call an ideal experience, especially consdering that I have a 46 inch HDTV connected to the AppleTV. Conveniently, The AppleTV already has the h.264 hardware that's needed for FaceTime. They could at least enable one to hook up through USB.

Yeah, sorry it came across that way, wasn't meant to be such disdain, just more a wholehearted (not in an unfriendly way) disagreement. :)

One thing I was thinking, though, about your request is that if Apple does at some point provide an SDK and AppStore (which is what I'd like to see first), with the recent added support of Bluetooth on the ATV there's no reason to think that you couldn't add support for a camera and microphone (perhaps even an all-in-one headset) that would allow you to FaceTime via AppleTV. Alternatively, Apple has official docks for phones now in which you can set your phone so you don't have to hold it the entire time, and of course I think that you can AirPlay it to an ATV today.

octatonic
Sep 24, 2013, 12:33 PM
802.11ac would be nice.

Risco
Sep 24, 2013, 01:47 PM
The UI needs a total overhaul, and we need a touch controller that is not an iPhone. I find it a really pain the ass navigating round the current UI, it is slow and clunky! Also better and faster playing of large files and DTS!

Toltepeceno
Sep 24, 2013, 03:24 PM
More open, use plex for example instead of itunes. (won't happen)

More channels that are worth anything, especially outside of the US. (Won't happen any time soon)

Apps and ability to surf internet. (won't happen)

Ability to use bluetooth headphones (could happen but probably won't)

StinDaWg
Sep 26, 2013, 02:51 AM
Better quality 1080p encodes. Their 1080p encodes look worse than their 720p. This can only be done if they increase the bitrate or keep it the same and move to H.265.

60fps support.

priitv8
Sep 26, 2013, 04:46 AM
Better quality 1080p encodes.It's a backend problem, not something that would call for a new device.
I bet Apple is considering the download times for average Joe, who still uses some ADSL broadband connection. Thus the cap on file size they put up in their store.

StinDaWg
Sep 27, 2013, 03:50 AM
It's a backend problem, not something that would call for a new device.
I bet Apple is considering the download times for average Joe, who still uses some ADSL broadband connection. Thus the cap on file size they put up in their store.
If they switched to H.265 they could keep the bitrate the same (5 mbps) and have roughly double the quality. This would require new hardware of course.

mellofello
Sep 27, 2013, 04:04 AM
How about a vlc app. ;)

KellyC
Sep 27, 2013, 01:42 PM
Cord cutter here.

Very happy with current Apple TV. I just hope they keep it simple, don't complicate things with apps. requiring cable subscriptions, and do not increase the physical size of the hardware by adding I/O and cameras.

All I want is to have the capability for a "middle of the road" (somewhere between casual and hardcore) game ecosystem and a physical game controller.

Like many Gen Xers I grew up gaming and have had every console generation from Colecovision/Atari to NES/SEGA through XBOX/PS.

With a career and two small children, I don't have the required time to invest in current console games, nor do I have the desire to pay the kind of money AAA console titles are demanding.

I just want a middle-of-the-road game ecosystem that delivers high replay appeal with moderate depth.

whoiare
Sep 27, 2013, 02:19 PM
i honestly would be satisfied if all they did was remove the stupid computers menu and place all my itunes tv shows, movies, home videos, photos, and pod casts in the appropriate buttons on the home screen. Then allow me to sort by recently added. having to tell someone to navigate to computers then to movies makes no sense where there is a movies button also on the home page.

APhillyApple
Sep 27, 2013, 09:59 PM
I want an iOS 7 UI change and an App Store. I think its time Apple puts this thing into over-drive!!!

bozzykid
Sep 27, 2013, 11:40 PM
I want an iOS 7 UI change and an App Store. I think its time Apple puts this thing into over-drive!!!

I don't think you will see the cartoony bright colors of iOS 7. It just doesn't make sense for a TV interface. Dark works better for tv. What it needs is to get rid of the grid of icons and to provide some real organization along with universal search.

csrini1
Sep 28, 2013, 12:15 AM
I want a USB port,all the functionality of boxee box(which samsung bought recently)use/able to play apps from AppStore.

Uofmtiger
Sep 28, 2013, 10:51 AM
The Apple TV isn't going to grow by expanding it's local streaming options. It will grow by expanding their internet streaming options and improving the UI in which that can take place.
These features can both be applied to older AppleTVs via an update.

What would be the point of coming out with a new Appletv that offers nothing over the last version? Maybe they will give us colors to choose from and not change anything inside?

Anyway, what I want is the App Store built in, but I am not expecting it.

taedouni
Sep 28, 2013, 01:20 PM
The only things that can make me ditch my Roku 3 and come back to the Apple TV are:

1. App store support. Or at least more support for third party apps instead of releasing 4 apps per year.

2. PLEX support. XBMC would never happen but Plex should. Roku supports Plex.

3. Better remote. Simplicity is nice when it comes to UIs but not when it comes to remotes.

4. Improvements on WiFi.

5. Allow AirPlay to work by directly connecting to the Apple TV instead of accessing it by using the Network that they're both connected to. This would improve quality and reduce lag.

lexvo
Sep 28, 2013, 04:53 PM
1) Ability to stream from other sources like AFP/SMB/FTP
2) More advanced audio like DTS
3) Reliable home sharing! (now I have to wake my iMac from sleep and make sure iTunes is started)

APhillyApple
Sep 28, 2013, 05:45 PM
I don't think you will see the cartoony bright colors of iOS 7. It just doesn't make sense for a TV interface. Dark works better for tv. What it needs is to get rid of the grid of icons and to provide some real organization along with universal search.

With all due respect, the TC asked what I wanted not what I think I will get. Thanks though.

zedsdead
Sep 28, 2013, 05:55 PM
(1) App Store

(2) 4x3 Support so the device can be used in Education and with the proper aspect ratio of the iPads

(3) TV SHOW and MOVIE FOLDERS!!!!! Can't understand why this was removed.

(4) Apple to stop giving me content without my choice. I don't need a ton of channels I am not going to watch on my screen. This is solved with an App Store as well.

(5) The current grid is not designed great, and I believe Jobs initially rejected it. Not a fan of the huge icons.

* MOST of this can be fixed with a software update.

As for hardware, once 4k is cost effective they should move to that. Stay away from 3D.

bozzykid
Sep 29, 2013, 11:27 AM
With all due respect, the TC asked what I wanted not what I think I will get. Thanks though.

And? I said why you won't get it.

linds15
Sep 29, 2013, 04:18 PM
(3) TV SHOW and MOVIE FOLDERS!!!!! Can't understand why this was removed.


ALL I REALLY WANT!!! there are other things that would be nice, but scrolling through 30 seasons of stuff to get to the west wing at the bottom is very annoying

RossMcLaren
Sep 30, 2013, 04:23 AM
I would love to see the Sky Sports channels delivered on to Apple TV's

The amount of sport loving men and women who could pay a one off 99 for the ATV and then happily pay a monthly fee for access to Sky Sports would be huge.

Shame that the cut that Apple would want would be the prohibitive factor...

Count Blah
Sep 30, 2013, 12:20 PM
I want upgraded internals, specifically CPU. There is NO WAY I am buying an AppleTV now with a single core A5. After 2 years, this thing is going the way of the iPod Touch 4, once the new Apple TV gets released - something only a couple months out of cycle, and was not brought along in the iOS upgrade cycle.

APhillyApple
Sep 30, 2013, 12:40 PM
And? I said why you won't get it.

I said Thank You for nothing! Do you want me to bake some cookies too?

bozzykid
Sep 30, 2013, 06:39 PM
I said Thank You for nothing! Do you want me to bake some cookies too?

Sorry. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to give a comment on a forum post.

QWERTYMac7
Sep 30, 2013, 08:27 PM
Overall, I just want my Flying Pony and Unicorn to be able to access their iTunes TV Shows/Movies with their hoofs - they can do it now, I only wish Apple could make it easier on the next gen Apple TV.

They are not getting any younger and the upcoming winter makes their joints stiff.