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missygal
Sep 23, 2013, 10:18 PM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??



juswest
Sep 23, 2013, 10:24 PM
It's very likely you'll never respect yourself again.

missygal
Sep 23, 2013, 10:29 PM
It's very likely you'll never respect yourself again.

I was being serious.

antiprotest
Sep 23, 2013, 10:32 PM
It's very likely you'll never respect yourself again.

I agree.

noobinator
Sep 23, 2013, 10:33 PM
I agree.

I also agree.

sillywabbit
Sep 23, 2013, 10:35 PM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??

Good choice! My co-worker has the S4 and it is AWESOME! :p

juswest
Sep 23, 2013, 10:37 PM
I was being serious.

I know. I'm just joking. It truly just depends on you. If you are tied to the Apple ecosystem you will regret it. Android isn't the wilderness people make it out to be. It has some cool features. I personally wouldn't recommend the S4 over the iPhone, Moto X or HTC One.

The Galaxy is a good phone with a nice display, and great camera. I find it uncomfortable to hold long term, and too glossy.

JeremyE
Sep 23, 2013, 10:37 PM
You're asking on an Apple rumors site.

missygal
Sep 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
You're asking on an Apple rumors site.

I know but thought I'd still be able to get ideas.

LWP777
Sep 23, 2013, 10:39 PM
Do it

echo44
Sep 23, 2013, 10:40 PM
It may be worth trying the galaxy to realize how good the iPhone and ios system is. You'll be back!!

wxman2003
Sep 23, 2013, 10:42 PM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??

What do you mean by white? I have ios 7 and doesn't look white to me.

KPOM
Sep 23, 2013, 10:56 PM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??

You can change the wallpaper to a darker set. After a few days you get used to iOS 7. It's radically different and less "lifelike" than the skeumorphic iOS 1-6 that preceded it, but the functionality is very similar and they have added some new features. It looks completely normal to me now.

Also, I've quickly become addicted to the Touch ID of the 5s. I am getting annoyed by the passcode on my iPad Mini. So if the Mini 2 has Touch ID, I'll probably get one. :D

Macinva
Sep 23, 2013, 11:01 PM
I say go for it. We need Samsung around (and other companies) or Apple will get lazy with their updates. :D

nooaah
Sep 23, 2013, 11:04 PM
Try it. I did.

And then I went back to iOS. Then I tried a Lumia. Then I went back to iOS.

I can't deal with the screen lag from the other phones. I wouldn't accept the Ten Commandments from God, Godself, if they had that kind of screen lag.

danilko1
Sep 23, 2013, 11:08 PM
Try it. I did.

And then I went back to iOS. Then I tried a Lumia. Then I went back to iOS.

I can't deal with the screen lag from the other phones. I wouldn't accept the Ten Commandments from God, Godself, if they had that kind of screen lag.

Screen lag, you said it brother.

It's like carrying around a "slow witted" phone in your pocket.

vegastime
Sep 23, 2013, 11:12 PM
My 23 year old nephew recently went from the iPhone 4s to the Galaxy. He used it for a little over a month. He then switched back to his iPhone. Of course he was using IOS 6.

Direct text from him:

"Well now that I've owned both apple and android phones I would say the iphone is far superior"

He now really wants my iPhone 5, since I ended up getting the 5s.

Only way you will know for sure is to try it.

nooaah
Sep 23, 2013, 11:15 PM
Screen lag, you said it brother.

It's like carrying around a "slow witted" phone in your pocket.

It really screws up the entire experience. I never even knew there was a term for it until either this site or 9to5 recently ran a homepage story on it.

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My 23 year old nephew recently went from the iPhone 4s to the Galaxy. He used it for a little over a month. He then switched back to his iPhone. Of course he was using IOS 6.

Direct text from him:

"Well now that I've owned both apple and android phones I would say the iphone is far superior"

He now really wants my iPhone 5, since I ended up getting the 5s.

Only way you will know for sure is to try it.

My dad was an "MIT"-graduate, anti-Apple super nerd until I gave him my old iPod Touch. He was a month away from getting his first iPhone before he passed. That ranks tragic right before never getting to see his first grandson or getting to retire, I guess. :rolleyes:

AppleFan91
Sep 23, 2013, 11:17 PM
Personally, as someone who owns both, the iPhone is much better IMO. The keyboard and touchscreen are much more responsive, the OS doesn't lag like Android does. Overall it's a much better experience. Samsung's devices have more features but they are half baked and do not integrate with the OS well. GS4 is jack of all trades master of none

nooaah
Sep 23, 2013, 11:19 PM
Personally, as someone who owns both, the iPhone is much better IMO. The keyboard and touchscreen are much more responsive, the OS doesn't lag like Android does. Overall it's a much better experience. Samsung's devices have more features but they are half baked and do not integrate with the OS well. GS4 is jack of all trades master of none

That last sentence is perfect!

I did prefer Android's keyboard, though. And Nokia's.

Jacoblee23
Sep 23, 2013, 11:21 PM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??

I did it last week. I returned the s4 and bought the 5s five days later. You'll be back.

syd430
Sep 23, 2013, 11:22 PM
Try turning turning your screen brightness down. It rarely needs to go past 20-30%.

Also, wrong sub forum. Should be in the iOS device alternatives forum.

Jett0516
Sep 23, 2013, 11:22 PM
go for it. and you can always install an ios theme if you happen to miss it.

Brittany246
Sep 23, 2013, 11:31 PM
Idk, try it out for yourself. My younger brother got the S4 this summer and returned it 6 days later for an iPhone 5. He said that he didn't even use the features the S4 had, so he didn't see the point in having the phone, but he did miss the bigger screen. He mostly decided to return it because it kept lagging here and there.

trdsol23
Sep 23, 2013, 11:49 PM
Just to share my story: I have been a die hard apple fan since day 1 and still am. I've had every iphone 3, 3gs, 4, 4s, 5. Then I got bored and decided to go with Android to try something new. I switched from iphone 5 to galaxy s4. In less than two months, I am making my way back to the iphone 5s.

I will NEVER touch an Android device again. Sure I will miss the bigger screen, but I would rather have a functional phone.

The phone crashed constantly. I had to constantly clear my ram so that the phone would not slow down. I could not see anything under the sun. The phone would freeze when I unplugged it from the charger for 20 seconds. The phone would restart itself from time to time. Bluetooth streaming would cut in and out. Phone was laggy and unresponsive.

All the features are GIMMICK, half-baked, worthless IMHO. They advertise all these features but what they don't tell you is that you need to use their apps in order for the features to work. The Samsung browser is so bad, I can't even explain it.

When you first have the phone, you'll enjoy it because of all the new features and how different it is from IOS, then you'll hate it very quick.

I really don't know how anyone can claim an Android device is decent. They are either delusional or just an Apple hater.

Iphone5preorder
Sep 23, 2013, 11:51 PM
Had Iphone. Went to Galaxy, came back. Galaxy is slow, unstable, annoying. Good luck. Try it!

smallnshort247
Sep 24, 2013, 12:05 AM
I switched from my iPhone 5 to the galaxy S4 (before iOS 7 was officially announced) I loved the S4 at first.. Huge display, control beyond belief for settings etc. I was also excited to get more into the google ecosystem. I knew that my Mac wouldn't work well with my S4 but I was too ready to switch to care. iOS 6 wasn't bad, as it did everything I needed, but it was just so stale. After the first week or so of owning the S4, I found my that all those "innovative" features like the air gestures wore off with the cool effect for me. A lot if them are limited to specific samsung apps which I didn't prefer to use. I can't speak for everyone, but my battery life was horrible! With everything turned off and nothing running in the background, I would go from 100% to 97% in minutes of doing nothing. Carrier bloat ware is horrible and I didn't like how android updates were delayed depending on carriers and etc. I hated the keyboard on the phone and had to adjust to the swype keyboard (did I spell it right? Lol) but after getting practice I was almost as fast as I am while typing on my phone. A very big positive for the phone was it's camera. Best camera I've ever used on a phone. Overall, the phone was probably one of the best android phones I could of switched to. Even though I listed a lot of the bad, everyone would have a different experience. I just felt that I was trying to change phones for the sake of change. iOS 7 was a big enough refresh from Apple that I decided to keep my iPhone and sell the s4 on eBay. Now I'm on a 5S and I couldn't be happier with my phone. Hopefully my experience helps you decide on what you plan on doing.

Abs_p
Sep 24, 2013, 12:14 AM
I used android for 7 weeks till I received my 5c. I used nexus 4 so I can comment on android on general.
Stock android especially JB is not really bad as we iPhone users usually say. I used the PA ROM and miui and miui gives an iPhone like experience and is better looking on general then the stock ROM. Battery life AFTER flashing kernel was more then my iPhone 4s and my iPhone 5.It used to last 12 plus hours easily and I have pretty heavy usage. But the play store sucks and overall experience is certainly below iOS atleast for me

Talking about galaxy phones. I bought s3 just to play with android last year. I hated that phone. Felt cheap tbh. Pentile display sucked and apart from camera nexus 4 IMO is better and value for money. If u really wanna go android way go for nexus 5 when it releases or get the HTC one. Don't pay Samsung your money,they suck :p

jimbo1mcm
Sep 24, 2013, 02:41 AM
All of the above, plus. Had the S4. A good phone, but can be wonky. Android turns things off and on by itself. You will REALLY miss IOS if you get the S4. I am available for counseling, night and day. Don't do it.

pojo1806
Sep 24, 2013, 03:03 AM
A friend of mine did this, regretted it then bought the 5c on release day.

JobsGang
Sep 24, 2013, 03:12 AM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??

Try it.Once you start thinking about it you won't be satisfied until you do.

I switched and came back,but that was when the galaxy nexus came out .S4 is a way better phone than the nexus though.

EasyRider
Sep 24, 2013, 03:16 AM
Had the iPhone 3G, 4, 4s... decided to skip the 5 because I was disappointed it was pretty much the same as the 4s. So went and got a Galaxy Note 2. Got used the giant size and enjoyed watching videos on it. The quality of the phone was crap. Screen cracked twice on very short drops (original and replacement screen). I could hear the plastic squeak whenever I would press with some extra effort (like when playing a game). Plus the icons/ and Samsung's TouchWiz is just plain ugly.

Got tired of it and decided to try the HTC One. Much better phone overall, had a drop and no issue. HTC Sense 5.0 has a much nicer design. I don't think the camera is that great and I just miss the iPhone's easy to handle size.

I realized I don't really need a large phone because I use my iPad so much. So if I don't need the big screen, why stick with Android?

Night Spring
Sep 24, 2013, 03:32 AM
I too felt disappointed with iOS 7, and was contemplating trying an Android phone. Then my boss showed up with a Galaxy S3 and an HTC phone -- not sure which one -- and wanted me to set up email on them. So I did, and found the menu system annoying -- it took several menu layers to set up the email, whereas with iOS, all the email settings are on a single page. Then a few weeks later, my boss drops the S3 in water, so he replaces it with an S4. At the same time, he also upgrades the HTC to a newer model. I have to set up the email on both phones all over again, while cursing that with iOS, I could just hit "restore from backup."

Conclusion: as bad as iOS 7 is, it's still much more preferable than Android.

kenknotts
Sep 24, 2013, 03:47 AM
I did the opposite, went from S4 to iPhone 5s. I decided to sacrifice the bigger screen for the little things that matter to me. For example, there are areas around town none of my Android phone ever worked well. They would drop to 3G or just not work at all for data. My 5s works just fine in those same places, I get full LTE. I even got LTE in a parking garage the other day. The radio in the iPhones are second to none. the GPS on iPhones is very fast and accurate too, unlike my previous Android phones. Apps like Facebook and games like words with friends are much more responsive and perform better all around then their Android versions. Then throw in the comparability with my other Apple devices and it was just too overwhelming in favor of selling my S4 and keeping my 5s.

clborden
Sep 24, 2013, 03:55 AM
My Android excursion started last January with Note 2. I actually like it a lot, but once I saw the HTC One, I was sold on the screen. It's amazing. So I switched...until my 2 week old 64gb One fell off my couch. It must've fallen just right, because it cracked the screen. I'm talking a 15 inch drop. I was livid. I made an insurance claim, but Asurion had me waiting over a month until they finally told me that they never stocked the 64gb, and didn't know when they would. So they offered me the Galaxy S4, which I'm using now. Anyway, if you're going to switch, try the HTC...no lag issues what so ever. NONE!! This S4 is loaded with lag in every aspect. Anyway, just like everyone is saying here, I'm coming back as well...my 5s should be delivered today.

One more thing...if you have a Mac, you'll be introduced to a whole new kind of aggravation. Android File Transfer does the job, but having to plug the phone in over and over drove me up the friggen wall. Then the random crashes in the middle of syncing...

....SAVE YOUR MONEY AND TIME. Honestly.

vmaniqui
Sep 24, 2013, 03:58 AM
I also agree.

i totally agree...

remember this guys - samsung is a korean company and apple is an american company. shouldn't it be an easy decision for everyone on what phone to buy.

nebo1ss
Sep 24, 2013, 04:07 AM
You will only get negative opinions on such a switch on this forum. Those who have successfully made the switch are not going to be hanging around here reading this thread.

Nik73
Sep 24, 2013, 04:07 AM
I went from an iPhone to a Galaxy S3 and loved it at first. The screen size is great for watching video and the quality is amazing. There's not a person I've shown it to who hasn't said "WOW!"
I've had it for 14 months and I've found myself wanting to come back to an iPhone. There's nothing wrong the S3 per se, but it is slowing down already and there's hardly anything on it. As others have said, it doesn't play well with OSX either.
As everything else I have is Apple it's the odd one out and want my phone to be part of the big happy family, so I picked up an iPhone 5. Couldn't be happier. :)

vmaniqui
Sep 24, 2013, 04:08 AM
My 23 year old nephew recently went from the iPhone 4s to the Galaxy. He used it for a little over a month. He then switched back to his iPhone. Of course he was using IOS 6.

Direct text from him:

"Well now that I've owned both apple and android phones I would say the iphone is far superior"

He now really wants my iPhone 5, since I ended up getting the 5s.

Only way you will know for sure is to try it.

+1. i tried all phones you could imagine, blackberry, samsung, treo, motorola and all smartphones (we can upgrade every year at work) but it's iphone for me hands down.

DannyDrama
Sep 24, 2013, 04:48 AM
I miss exactly one thing from android. Vibration on the keyboard. I know it would use more battery but the option would be nice. My typing seems much better when haptic feedback is on. No idea why that is.

R.Stoychev
Sep 24, 2013, 05:17 AM
Go and try it, I see that you own ipad mini so you will have ios device. Maybe the s4 is for you :)

rockitdog
Sep 24, 2013, 09:26 AM
I've gone back anf forth from iOS to Android for months. Although I am having the opposite experience from you guys. I bought the 5S and not impressed. For the first time ever on an iPhone, I'm experiencing lag which drives me nuts. Fluidity was the biggest that iOS had over Android for so long and now that they don't have that in my mind, they don't have much else.

I'm taking my 5S back today and will probably be picking up an S4. iOS really has just shiny new coat of paint on it but not much else, IMO. I want real innovation, Apple, not redesigned icons.

jrswizzle
Sep 24, 2013, 11:03 AM
Use both an iPhone (now 5s) and Android (now GS4) daily. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Both are great phones. Glad I get to experience both platforms.

OP, if you are bored, switch. Why not? Don't listen to the "its laggy and unstable" nonsense. Completely untrue. My GS4 is an AT&T version, running NovaPrime and Stark icons to get rid of the ugly TouchWiz UI, and I have most of the Smart features turned off.

Android is great - allows you all kinds of customization options, and if you're into somewhat obscure techy things there's a lot you can do via Android.

I will note however, if I were forced to only keep one I'd stick with my iPhone. But I don't get "bored" with my devices as far as their looks go and I love iOS 7. For me its a familiarity thing and the fact I can do 99.9% of what I want on my iPhone (now just need to be able to attach multiple docs/pdfs in an email).

Ultimately, whatever you choose you really can't go wrong. Just give it some time if you try Android. It'll take getting used to. Don't try it for a day then come here to complain about how terrible it is. We have enough of those threads on here already.

Good luck! :D

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I've gone back anf forth from iOS to Android for months. Although I am having the opposite experience from you guys. I bought the 5S and not impressed. For the first time ever on an iPhone, I'm experiencing lag which drives me nuts. Fluidity was the biggest that iOS had over Android for so long and now that they don't have that in my mind, they don't have much else.

I'm taking my 5S back today and will probably be picking up an S4. iOS really has just shiny new coat of paint on it but not much else, IMO. I want real innovation, Apple, not redesigned icons.

And don't listen to this nonsense.....be smarter than this and actually LOOK at what has gone into iOS 7. Hilarious to me - Apple has been so successful at making the new tech "disappear" (as they said in their promo vids) people don't even know about all the stuff the phone does behind the scenes.

Also its funny about all this supposed "lag" everyone is experiencing. My 5s is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Not a stutter yet - and I didn't even do a full restore. Hell, my iPad mini runs iOS 7 just fine. Couldn't be happier with the 5s or iOS 7.

rockitdog
Sep 24, 2013, 11:23 AM
Use both an iPhone (now 5s) and Android (now GS4) daily. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Both are great phones. Glad I get to experience both platforms.

OP, if you are bored, switch. Why not? Don't listen to the "its laggy and unstable" nonsense. Completely untrue. My GS4 is an AT&T version, running NovaPrime and Stark icons to get rid of the ugly TouchWiz UI, and I have most of the Smart features turned off.

Android is great - allows you all kinds of customization options, and if you're into somewhat obscure techy things there's a lot you can do via Android.

I will note however, if I were forced to only keep one I'd stick with my iPhone. But I don't get "bored" with my devices as far as their looks go and I love iOS 7. For me its a familiarity thing and the fact I can do 99.9% of what I want on my iPhone (now just need to be able to attach multiple docs/pdfs in an email).

Ultimately, whatever you choose you really can't go wrong. Just give it some time if you try Android. It'll take getting used to. Don't try it for a day then come here to complain about how terrible it is. We have enough of those threads on here already.

Good luck! :D

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And don't listen to this nonsense.....be smarter than this and actually LOOK at what has gone into iOS 7. Hilarious to me - Apple has been so successful at making the new tech "disappear" (as they said in their promo vids) people don't even know about all the stuff the phone does behind the scenes.

Also its funny about all this supposed "lag" everyone is experiencing. My 5s is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Not a stutter yet - and I didn't even do a full restore. Hell, my iPad mini runs iOS 7 just fine. Couldn't be happier with the 5s or iOS 7.

Aside from the scanner and camera update, please tell me what is so revolutionary about iOS 7? Control Center/ notification center have been around in various forms on Android. Changing fonts doesn't do anything for me either & frankly I liked the old safari & outlook better. Again, aside from the scanner and camera improvements, what does the iPhone do better that cannot be found on other devices? Android still takes the cake on screens (sizes and clarity), the ability to customize your device home screens, including NFC techonology, Google Now kills Siri.

kenknotts
Sep 24, 2013, 11:28 AM
I've gone back anf forth from iOS to Android for months. Although I am having the opposite experience from you guys. I bought the 5S and not impressed. For the first time ever on an iPhone, I'm experiencing lag which drives me nuts. Fluidity was the biggest that iOS had over Android for so long and now that they don't have that in my mind, they don't have much else.

I'm taking my 5S back today and will probably be picking up an S4. iOS really has just shiny new coat of paint on it but not much else, IMO. I want real innovation, Apple, not redesigned icons.

You mentioned your iphone 5s "lag" in another thread claiming it was when you went into Facebook. It's the app, not the phone and if you think it lags on iPhone, wait till you see it on the S4 lol. I would sit there for 30 seconds sometimes waiting for the feed to refresh. Try doing a search for friends. You can make a sandwhich before it starts to load after you type in a few letters. The Facebook app for iPhone is much faster, more fluid and more polished than the one for Android but have fun.

jrswizzle
Sep 24, 2013, 11:46 AM
Aside from the scanner and camera update, please tell me what is so revolutionary about iOS 7? Control Center/ notification center have been around in various forms on Android. Changing fonts doesn't do anything for me either & frankly I liked the old safari & outlook better. Again, aside from the scanner and camera improvements, what does the iPhone do better that cannot be found on other devices? Android still takes the cake on screens (sizes and clarity), the ability to customize your device home screens, including NFC techonology, Google Now kills Siri.

*sigh*

Revolutionary huh? Let's simply start with what has improved. I try not to blindly throw around terms like "revolutionary" and "innovative" because half the time one person has no idea what it means and the other person only throws it out there to make their device look good.

I was in the process of typing out all the things that went into the iPhone 5S - but then I remembered Anandtech's review - which is infinitely more detailed and written by people with far more knowledge about such things than I.

Read it if you REALLY are interested in learning:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review

As for the software side and iOS 7:

-Control Center: Much needed and well implemented.

-Notification Center (Today): The new "Today" tab in the notification center is actually quite brilliant. It brings some features of Google Now (like Traffic conditions) to the iPhone and in my experience has been more accurate - it correctly predicts and provides traffic for where I'm going whereas Google Now was always sort of erratic.

-Multitasking: Not only do you get more robust multitasking (that doesn't affect battery life) but intelligent updates to apps is a neat thing as well. For instance, if I usually open up Flipboard in the morning to read articles, iOS 7 knows this and has my Flipboard magazines updated for me when I open the app.

-Airdrop: Yes, its iOS to iOS - but S-Beam is also proprietary. Airdrop is a nice way to send files p2p to people in your vicinity. Instead of tapping phones, you just open up the share sheet and voila. And Apple's already said if an app can utilize a share sheet, it can use Airdrop so it won't be long before we see all kinds of things being shared this way.

-Siri: Siri got better and beats out Google Now in both speed and voice recognition for me. She also has a wider feature set with setting alarms and reminders, making appointments, searches (NOT web searches) etc...

-Activation Lock: GREAT security feature IMO. Coupled with Touch ID and your AppleID password, iOS devices are the most secure consumer mobile devices out there.

There's also a boatload of new dev tools that I know nothing about - and I happen to MUCH prefer the new look to the old. The animations, folders, transparency all look more efficient and modern.

I get that people are upset they didn't increase the screen size or add the ability to set default apps. But let's be honest here - those two things aren't HUGE innovations in and of themselves - so their lack of inclusion shouldn't downplay the entirety of what Apple was able to do during an "s" update.

My opinion is we'll see the larger iPhone next year - which given Apple's product history makes perfect sense. It always cracks me up when people get all livid about something they should easily have seen coming. And in the interest of being fair, please do post all the innovations and revolutionary NEW features coming to the Note 3 that the Note 2 didn't have. As I'm not a fan of screens that large I'm not entirely knowledgeable on the feature sets.

naughtynumber9
Sep 24, 2013, 01:55 PM
You might consider a less expensive foray into the Android platform in case you don't like it. The S4 won't hold resale value like a 5S and it doesn't have the Apple demand on it's side either so you could end up stuck with it.

As far as the switch to Android - I went from an iPhone 4 (I've only used iPhones since 2008) to a Nexus 4 recently and I'm happy with the phone's performance. There is no screen lag, and it has the processing power to easily handle every game or other app I've come across. It lacks the impeccable fit and finish of an iPhone for sure but at just over a third of the 5S price and still under half that of the 5C, I'm more than happy to cope. It's actually pretty nice in it's own right - just not AS nice. I bought it unlocked for $250 (8gig is $200, but I'm not sure why they even make 8gig smartphones anymore) off contract (only $50 more than a iPhone 5S or Galaxy S4's contract price) so I'll also be able to save $40-50 a month on my phone bill each month as well. It has an excellent 4.7" screen at 320ppi compared to the 5S 4.0" screen at 326ppi. The Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core processor 1.5ghz stacks up well against the A7 dual-core 1.3ghz from the 5S and it also has 2 gigs of RAM to the iPhone 5S's 1 gig. Ultimately it's a well put together phone and I enjoy using it. I really don't miss much about the iPhone aside from the app store and the iTunes integration. The Nexus has been a more than capable replacement for the iPhone for me and it will easily save me $1K over the next two years.

Here are a couple flagship phone comparisons I found with a quick search that might help:

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/19868/20130911/iphone-5s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-htc.htm
http://www.igeeksblog.com/iphone-5s-vs-nexus-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-features-comparison/

At least one of them seems to have it out against Apple but their spec and feature comparisons are still somewhat useful if taken with a grain of salt.

I hope you enjoy whatever phone you get.

daveathall
Sep 24, 2013, 02:12 PM
You might consider a less expensive foray into the Android platform in case you don't like it. The S4 won't hold resale value like a 5S and it doesn't have the Apple demand on it's side either so you could end up stuck with it.

As far as the switch to Android - I went from an iPhone 4 (I've only used iPhones since 2008) to a Nexus 4 recently and I'm happy with the phone's performance. There is no screen lag, and it has the processing power to easily handle every game or other app I've come across. It lacks the impeccable fit and finish of an iPhone for sure but at just over a third of the 5S price and still under half that of the 5C, I'm more than happy to cope. It's actually pretty nice in it's own right - just not AS nice. I bought it unlocked for $250 (8gig is $200, but I'm not sure why they even make 8gig smartphones anymore) off contract (only $50 more than a iPhone 5S or Galaxy S4's contract price) so I'll also be able to save $40-50 a month on my phone bill each month as well. It has an excellent 4.7" screen at 320ppi compared to the 5S 4.0" screen at 326ppi. The Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core processor 1.5ghz stacks up well against the A7 dual-core 1.3ghz from the 5S and it also has 2 gigs of RAM to the iPhone 5S's 1 gig. Ultimately it's a well put together phone and I enjoy using it. I really don't miss much about the iPhone aside from the app store and the iTunes integration. The Nexus has been a more than capable replacement for the iPhone for me and it will easily save me $1K over the next two years.

Here are a couple flagship phone comparisons I found with a quick search that might help:

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/19868/20130911/iphone-5s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-htc.htm
http://www.igeeksblog.com/iphone-5s-vs-nexus-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-features-comparison/

At least one of them seems to have it out against Apple but their spec and feature comparisons are still somewhat useful if taken with a grain of salt.

I hope you enjoy whatever phone you get.

IMHO, Excellent post and sage advice, I too have had a Nexus 4 and whole heartily agree. :)

Technarchy
Sep 24, 2013, 02:25 PM
I went from an iPhone 5 to a galaxy S4 in August.

From an experience perspective it's a massive downgrade. There's a couple of cool perks but on a whole it's an inferior experience.

I fully intend on going back to the iPhone in the near future. Until then, I do like all access on Google play music, the big screen and Swype. Those are probably the only things I will miss when I go back to iOS.

naughtynumber9
Sep 24, 2013, 02:27 PM
Thank you Dave:)

kenknotts
Sep 24, 2013, 02:36 PM
I went from an iPhone 5 to a galaxy S4 in August.

From an experience perspective it's a massive downgrade. There's a couple of cool perks but on a whole it's an inferior experience.

I fully intend on going back to the iPhone in the near future. Until then, I do like all access on Google play music, the big screen and Swype. Those are probably the only things I will miss when I go back to iOS.

Looking at your post history over the summer, you were very anti Android, then for some reason you bought an S4 and liked it enough to say you were keeping it and now you want the iPhone again? :confused:

Abs_p
Sep 24, 2013, 03:03 PM
*sigh*

Revolutionary huh? Let's simply start with what has improved. I try not to blindly throw around terms like "revolutionary" and "innovative" because half the time one person has no idea what it means and the other person only throws it out there to make their device look good.

I was in the process of typing out all the things that went into the iPhone 5S - but then I remembered Anandtech's review - which is infinitely more detailed and written by people with far more knowledge about such things than I.

Read it if you REALLY are interested in learning:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review

As for the software side and iOS 7:

-Control Center: Much needed and well implemented.

-Notification Center (Today): The new "Today" tab in the notification center is actually quite brilliant. It brings some features of Google Now (like Traffic conditions) to the iPhone and in my experience has been more accurate - it correctly predicts and provides traffic for where I'm going whereas Google Now was always sort of erratic.

-Multitasking: Not only do you get more robust multitasking (that doesn't affect battery life) but intelligent updates to apps is a neat thing as well. For instance, if I usually open up Flipboard in the morning to read articles, iOS 7 knows this and has my Flipboard magazines updated for me when I open the app.

-Airdrop: Yes, its iOS to iOS - but S-Beam is also proprietary. Airdrop is a nice way to send files p2p to people in your vicinity. Instead of tapping phones, you just open up the share sheet and voila. And Apple's already said if an app can utilize a share sheet, it can use Airdrop so it won't be long before we see all kinds of things being shared this way.

-Siri: Siri got better and beats out Google Now in both speed and voice recognition for me. She also has a wider feature set with setting alarms and reminders, making appointments, searches (NOT web searches) etc...

-Activation Lock: GREAT security feature IMO. Coupled with Touch ID and your AppleID password, iOS devices are the most secure consumer mobile devices out there.

There's also a boatload of new dev tools that I know nothing about - and I happen to MUCH prefer the new look to the old. The animations, folders, transparency all look more efficient and modern.

I get that people are upset they didn't increase the screen size or add the ability to set default apps. But let's be honest here - those two things aren't HUGE innovations in and of themselves - so their lack of inclusion shouldn't downplay the entirety of what Apple was able to do during an "s" update.

My opinion is we'll see the larger iPhone next year - which given Apple's product history makes perfect sense. It always cracks me up when people get all livid about something they should easily have seen coming. And in the interest of being fair, please do post all the innovations and revolutionary NEW features coming to the Note 3 that the Note 2 didn't have. As I'm not a fan of screens that large I'm not entirely knowledgeable on the feature sets.

Will comment only on the siri and google now part. Having used both,google now is far better then siri for me atleast in terms of real advantage gained from the feature.The cards stuff is really good. I remember waking up in the morning with my homescreen on my nexus 4 saying .One package shipped :iPhone 5c 16gb white From : Apple . Now that's cool. It tells me traffic to my hospital in the morning and same way back during night. It also automatically tells me the times of next buses and trains if i m on a bus stop or train stop and many many other things.
Having said that if one phone was snatched away from me i would keep my iPhone and let go of nexus. :)

Samsung phones as someone on this forums said are jack of all trades and master of none. ;)

jrswizzle
Sep 24, 2013, 03:15 PM
Will comment only on the siri and google now part. Having used both,google now is far better then siri for me atleast in terms of real advantage gained from the feature.The cards stuff is really good. I remember waking up in the morning with my homescreen on my nexus 4 saying .One package shipped :iPhone 5c 16gb white From : Apple . Now that's cool. It tells me traffic to my hospital in the morning and same way back during night. It also automatically tells me the times of next buses and trains if i m on a bus stop or train stop and many many other things.
Having said that if one phone was snatched away from me i would keep my iPhone and let go of nexus. :)

Samsung phones as someone on this forums said are jack of all trades and master of none. ;)

I think Siri/Today in iOS 7 have overtaken Google Now.

My experiences:

-Google Now offers traffic based on the "fastest" route to my office each morning. Today actually offered me the route I took. So after I drove the way I normally go (which is to avoid tolls and traffic), Today learned that was my route and gave me traffic information based on that route. Google Now's suggestions and info are pointless as I already know there's lots of traffic and actively avoid the way its suggesting I go.

-Voice recognition has VASTLY improved in iOS 7. On my way to my GRE test on Saturday I was attempting to look up the school codes for SMU Cox School of Business. Because it was a voice search, I actually did pick up my GS4 first, opened up Google Now and said "SMU online MBA GRE codes". Granted, that's a lot of letters to sift through - and Google Now failed miserably. After 5 tries all it had come up with was the word "online". Color me surprised. So I went to the 5s and tried the new and improved Siri. First try, Siri knew exactly what I said and did a web search. Obviously just one anecdote - but if you haven't tried Siri in iOS 7, I don't think you can make the same claim.

-Siri has always been better for me as far as what I use her for most: Reminders. 90% of the time, I'm using Siri to set reminders. But I can also toggle settings, open apps, check sports scores, define words, get currency exchange, compose text messages/facebook statuses/tweets.....etc etc all in ONE location without opening a browser or doing a web search or even unlocking the device.

IMO Google Now's ONE advantage was its voice recog ability. In iOS 7 - it's lost that advantage IMO. Siri is WITHOUT QUESTION, imo, superior.

EDIT: I will say, the shipment tracking is cool - though I don't use a gmail primarily so I don't automatically get those Google Now notifications (as it does that by sifting through your emails). I just as easily see the email come in that my package has shipped via the notification center on iOS.

Abs_p
Sep 24, 2013, 03:49 PM
I think Siri/Today in iOS 7 have overtaken Google Now.

My experiences:

-Google Now offers traffic based on the "fastest" route to my office each morning. Today actually offered me the route I took. So after I drove the way I normally go (which is to avoid tolls and traffic), Today learned that was my route and gave me traffic information based on that route. Google Now's suggestions and info are pointless as I already know there's lots of traffic and actively avoid the way its suggesting I go.

-Voice recognition has VASTLY improved in iOS 7. On my way to my GRE test on Saturday I was attempting to look up the school codes for SMU Cox School of Business. Because it was a voice search, I actually did pick up my GS4 first, opened up Google Now and said "SMU online MBA GRE codes". Granted, that's a lot of letters to sift through - and Google Now failed miserably. After 5 tries all it had come up with was the word "online". Color me surprised. So I went to the 5s and tried the new and improved Siri. First try, Siri knew exactly what I said and did a web search. Obviously just one anecdote - but if you haven't tried Siri in iOS 7, I don't think you can make the same claim.

-Siri has always been better for me as far as what I use her for most: Reminders. 90% of the time, I'm using Siri to set reminders. But I can also toggle settings, open apps, check sports scores, define words, get currency exchange, compose text messages/facebook statuses/tweets.....etc etc all in ONE location without opening a browser or doing a web search or even unlocking the device.

IMO Google Now's ONE advantage was its voice recog ability. In iOS 7 - it's lost that advantage IMO. Siri is WITHOUT QUESTION, imo, superior.

EDIT: I will say, the shipment tracking is cool - though I don't use a gmail primarily so I don't automatically get those Google Now notifications (as it does that by sifting through your emails). I just as easily see the email come in that my package has shipped via the notification center on iOS.
.Google now has always been better for me. Maybe coz of my accent or whatever. I have the 5c so i have used siri on ios7 but for some reason i find google now more useful to me. I will play with siri :P and maybe that might change my perception.

bmt134
Sep 24, 2013, 03:50 PM
Maybe you have a speech impediment, but just used Google now and it searched SMU online MBA GRE codes on the first try.

jrswizzle
Sep 24, 2013, 03:58 PM
Maybe you have a speech impediment, but just used Google now and it searched SMU online MBA GRE codes on the first try.

Hmm - I was in the car. No speech impediment.

Well, glad to see it worked for you.

EDIT: Yup - worked for me just now on the first try. Odd.....wonder why it was so bad that day. Oh well - I still stand by my statements. Even if Siri isn't BETTER than Google Now as far as speech recog goes, its as good and the expanded feature set of Siri makes it better IMO.

rockitdog
Sep 24, 2013, 03:58 PM
I went from an iPhone 5 to a galaxy S4 in August.

From an experience perspective it's a massive downgrade. There's a couple of cool perks but on a whole it's an inferior experience.

I fully intend on going back to the iPhone in the near future. Until then, I do like all access on Google play music, the big screen and Swype. Those are probably the only things I will miss when I go back to iOS.

Can you please explain why you feel this way?

naughtynumber9
Sep 24, 2013, 05:51 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1644375
You might try this to make IOS7 easier on the eyes ^

Tee00max
Sep 24, 2013, 09:31 PM
I made a similiar switch but my path was iPhone 5--Samsung Galaxy Note 2--S4--Back to my Note 2 and now I have the 5S.

I like both platforms and both have their advantages and disadvantages. Depends on what you do everyday with your phone. I switched from my Note because I couldnt stand the lag. I had to get back to iOS smoothness. I do miss the screen size and the battery life of the Note 2 but the iPhone 5S is just a premium device and just I miss apple period!

kirky29
Sep 25, 2013, 12:17 PM
I moved from the iPhone 5 to the HTC One and now I'm on the S4. Personally...I feel it's the best move I've made in a long long time.
Big screen. Awesome camera. Although I did remove TouchWiz and got a Google Edition ROM. Works flawlessly too.

I'd say do it!

samcraig
Sep 25, 2013, 02:04 PM
I went from an iPhone 5 to a galaxy S4 in August.

From an experience perspective it's a massive downgrade. There's a couple of cool perks but on a whole it's an inferior experience.

I fully intend on going back to the iPhone in the near future. Until then, I do like all access on Google play music, the big screen and Swype. Those are probably the only things I will miss when I go back to iOS.

Personally - I find it hard to believe you consider the S4 a "massive" downgrade. But your use case is your use case. If that's how you feel. It just seems like hyperbole.

If you like swype (I did too) - you should get SwiftKey and use Flow. I have found it to be "massively" better ;) I tease. But seriously - love it more than swype.

Technarchy
Sep 25, 2013, 02:37 PM
Personally - I find it hard to believe you consider the S4 a "massive" downgrade. But your use case is your use case. If that's how you feel. It just seems like hyperbole.

If you like swype (I did too) - you should get SwiftKey and use Flow. I have found it to be "massively" better ;) I tease. But seriously - love it more than swype.

I snagged Swiftkey from the amazon store when it was free. The only thing I like more about is the easy access themes. Swype has better shortcuts for things like cut and paste and seems better at spelling the words and choosing words over Swiftkey's Flow.

And the user experience of the S4 is just not up to iOS standards. Not for me at least. I like the GS4 hardware just fine. It's the software where things go sideways.

samcraig
Sep 25, 2013, 04:49 PM
I snagged Swiftkey from the amazon store when it was free. The only thing I like more about is the easy access themes. Swype has better shortcuts for things like cut and paste and seems better at spelling the words and choosing words over Swiftkey's Flow.

And the user experience of the S4 is just not up to iOS standards. Not for me at least. I like the GS4 hardware just fine. It's the software where things go sideways.

Fair enough. I was more commenting on your use of "massive" - but again - that's your prerogative. Android and iOS certainly have their pluses and minues. Not sure I would call any variance in them massive.

tshrimp
Sep 25, 2013, 05:44 PM
I'm seriously thinking of switching from my iPhone 5 to the Samsung Galaxy 4. I really dislike the iOS 7. Mainly all the white, hurts my eyes!! Has anyone else done this? Is it a bad idea??

I have worked with both iPhone and Android phones, and if you switch to Android you may never go back to an iPhone. Just keep that in mind.

Android phones like the Samsung G4 and HTC One just have so many features out of the box. (Some you will use, and some you won't) The 5S introduced a thumb print scanner that was implemented many years ago on Android. Heck, even ios7 has copied many things from them.

I can't name one thing that the iPhone can do that an Android phone can't. But someone here might be able to tell you if I am wrong here. (Unless you are married to the Apple ecosystem)

The iPhone is just a stripped down Android phone that cannot be tweaked.

And if you get to missing your iPhone just download an ios launcher. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.picoedit.ios.launcher.lock

mclld
Sep 25, 2013, 06:57 PM
I really don't know how anyone can claim an Android device is decent. They are either delusional or just an Apple hater.

Wow the bs is strong with this one lol

rockitdog
Sep 26, 2013, 08:57 AM
Just to share my story: I have been a die hard apple fan since day 1 and still am. I've had every iphone 3, 3gs, 4, 4s, 5. Then I got bored and decided to go with Android to try something new. I switched from iphone 5 to galaxy s4. In less than two months, I am making my way back to the iphone 5s.

I will NEVER touch an Android device again. Sure I will miss the bigger screen, but I would rather have a functional phone.

The phone crashed constantly. I had to constantly clear my ram so that the phone would not slow down. I could not see anything under the sun. The phone would freeze when I unplugged it from the charger for 20 seconds. The phone would restart itself from time to time. Bluetooth streaming would cut in and out. Phone was laggy and unresponsive.

All the features are GIMMICK, half-baked, worthless IMHO. They advertise all these features but what they don't tell you is that you need to use their apps in order for the features to work. The Samsung browser is so bad, I can't even explain it.

When you first have the phone, you'll enjoy it because of all the new features and how different it is from IOS, then you'll hate it very quick.

I really don't know how anyone can claim an Android device is decent. They are either delusional or just an Apple hater.

Well it's folks like yourself that will keep Apple afloat for years when the reality is that there are many things that Apple used to do better that Android has either caught up with or now has passed Apple on in terms of features and benefits.

Apple makes great products, but so do other companies!

cuzo
Sep 26, 2013, 11:19 AM
Seems like the one might be a better option for me. The s4 seems pretty riddled and gimmicky with issues.

rockitdog
Sep 26, 2013, 11:57 AM
Seems like the one might be a better option for me. The s4 seems pretty riddled and gimmicky with issues.

I think it really all depends what your running on it and the individual user. I love the One but I just can't get past the camera and I HATE the power button. As stupid as I don't trust HTC as a company to support this device, look how long it's take from launch to now to get any sort of updates rolled out.

cuzo
Sep 26, 2013, 12:02 PM
yeah I think you can't depend on carrier updates at this point, how you buy the phone is realistically how it should be.

I think alot of people kinda have the wrong idea with updates, I can understand security updates but outside of that we're promised nothing really.

I know guys who dumped their android phones due to lack of updates, I was one of them until I read someone's view over at androidcentral and I agreed with him.

HTC kills samsung in build quality, I used to have a OG evo back in the day.

samcraig
Sep 26, 2013, 12:06 PM
I think it really all depends what your running on it and the individual user. I love the One but I just can't get past the camera and I HATE the power button. As stupid as I don't trust HTC as a company to support this device, look how long it's take from launch to now to get any sort of updates rolled out.

use case is everything.

I have no issues with the S4 - my deciding factors were:

1) ability for SD Card
2) Better camera with better options and UI
3) removable battery

I was very close to buying the One - but the camera really changed my mind coupled with the ability to save photos/video to an external SD...

Tsuchiya
Oct 1, 2013, 02:35 PM
Best way to decide is to just buy one and give it a good chance.

I wasn't too keen on iOS7 at first but it did grow on me. If it's just a few annoyances then thats nothing compared to getting a GS4 and spending absolutely hours getting it setup how you like (with constant tweaking thereafter).

I'm mostly satisfied with my Galaxy S4 but there is a part of me that misses iPhone. We'll see how long that feeling lasts.

chrisrosemusic1
Oct 6, 2013, 01:27 PM
Funnily enough I've really suffered with bugs on iOS 7. My iMessage has failed 6 times since I installed it and required a network reset each time, losing all my WiFi codes. Not to mention crashes and battery problems.

I trumped for an S4 on Friday, haven't received it yet though, but I'm really looking forward to using Nova launcher (completely removes the TouchWiz UI lag) and using a bigger screen again.

I've still (for the time being) got my iPad Mini, and of course my MacBook but I just can't stand iOS7. For me, it's not a general release build and it's going to take a few months to iron the bugs out. Hoping the Galaxy ties me over 'til the iPhone 6 (please have a bigger display!!!!).

Anyway, good luck :)

missygal
Oct 28, 2013, 08:15 PM
Well I wanted to update that I went back to the iPhone as of yesterday. I got a 5S and am so happy to be back! Android is not for me...

JerZyT28
Oct 28, 2013, 08:25 PM
You will only get negative opinions on such a switch on this forum. Those who have successfully made the switch are not going to be hanging around here reading this thread.


lol I made the successful switch and I'm reading all of this. So much for "you'll be back". I'll never go back to an iPhone. The Android phone experience for me is what works for me. ZERO lag on my S4, perfect size, overall great experience. Only reason why I'm selling it is because I picked up a Nexus 7 and when I found out the Nexus 5 would be similar, I was sold. The build of the Nexus 7 is amazing IMO, not to mention stock android surpasses all (Touchwiz, Sense, iOs)

mib1800
Oct 29, 2013, 03:08 AM
I got the Note3 now after selling off my S4. When I use my sister 5S, it is just so unusable with so many restrictions and some really bad OS oversights.

- Scrolling is so lethargic and slow on the iOS, it is not even funny. You have flip like crazy just to scroll. Totally destroy the user experience since you do scrolling all the time.
- Can't place your icons anywhere on the screen. Can't even hide icons. Don't even talk about changing icons or having any UI customization. iOS is so boring.
- If you want to use different apps to view same content/files, you have to reload the same files again for each of the apps. This is so illogical and I can't understand how anyone can put up with iOS.
- Data sharing is a dinosaur compared to Android. You have to stop what you are doing and then open up the app to share. On S4, I can share any data/files from anywhere directly without any hassle.
- Can't believe how retarded the email client in 5S. You can't even attach multiple files of any kind to email. You can't save any files.
- Loading media/video files into phone is a nightmare. First you need to find a PC, then install Itunes then wait forever for Itunes to convert video files. On my Note3/S4, I just plug my portable disk into the phone directly and copy the files over. The media player in S4 plays any file format you throw at it. So easy compare to 5S.
- Can't do any Automation in 5S. How can the 5S/iOS be even called a smartphone when it cannot do any automation. On my S4, I can have the phone automatic turn to silent mode when there is an ongoing appointment. I can schedule sms sending or I can tap my phone on a NFC tag to activate a task or turn the screen on/off automatically when I take/put the phone into pocket. S4 is totally configurable to perform automated tasks.
-S4 is a portable media player. Just need to plug the HDMI to phone and TV. No need to carry along (or pay extra) for an AppleTV box to mirror the screen.
-Proprietary lightning cable connector is just a pain. Cut-throat expensive.
-Another proprietary no-no is 5S doesnt support WCDMA 3G-video calling,
-App Store is a pain to use. You can't do purchase/download on the web browser like Google play.
-Most major mainstream apps are better in S4. e.g dropbox, Google apps,

If someone can put up with all these major 5S/iOS shortcomings I stated above, then I don't see how they can complain about S4.