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E2EK1EL
Sep 24, 2013, 04:49 AM
For those who are still on iOS 6 in here and don't want to update to iOS 7, DO NOT charge your iDevices with the WiFi connected!

(Read it again, you will forget and the same applies to me too.)

When this happens, iOS will react like backing up, restoring and downloading from iCloud. It will trigger iOS6 to download the entire 782 MB of iOS 7 OTA and will prompt you to install the update after you've unlocked your device. You can reject it, but days you haven't had your coffee you might hit "install" by accident. Also the first time you go into your settings app, it takes you to the install page right away.

Took me awhile to figure out what was going with the GF's IP4S and why she got notification alerts & badges. Meanwhile I got nothing on my IP5.


Fortunately I've made a fresh, clean and a new user back up for all my iDevices. I can now erase and resync that back up. Just in case, God forbid something happens and I can jump right back as a fresh device without setting everything up again. Something like a ghost imaging for all the Window users and Time Machine Back Up or Carbon Copy Cloner for OSX.

Good Luck

Virginaustralia
Sep 24, 2013, 04:53 AM
I updated through iTunes it took 30 seconds to get the 1.2GB version

The-Real-Deal82
Sep 24, 2013, 04:54 AM
The worst you will have is the latest OS. Those refusing to upgrade are only going to face further problems when they miss updates further down the line. If you don't upgrade then you can't criticise support, you won't have a leg to stand on as far as I am concerned.

braddick
Sep 24, 2013, 04:57 AM
^
It's not a question of never updating...
It's simply choosing to not update right now- on 7.0

Perhaps 7.1, or whatever incarnation improves/fixes the current issues (especially so for the iPad).

The-Real-Deal82
Sep 24, 2013, 04:58 AM
Oh right fair enough :)

E2EK1EL
Sep 24, 2013, 05:01 AM
I use to laugh at ppl who stated they've "accidentally" updated and thought it was impossible. After my findings, this can happen to anyone who had a rough night and this would start their day off on as "its one of those days!"

Rodster
Sep 24, 2013, 05:10 AM
I've had my iPad WiFi on a while charging and no OTA update has downloaded. One interesting thing I did was to go to "check for updates" and acknowledged iOS 7 was available and cancelled out. It hasn't attempted an OTA download.

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I use to laugh at ppl who stated they've "accidentally" updated and thought it was impossible. After my findings, this can happen to anyone who had a rough night and this would start their day off on as "its one of those days!"

Every iOS upgrade i've done requires a password. I don't understand how someone can accidentally upgrade ?

E2EK1EL
Sep 24, 2013, 05:10 AM
Indeed once you've reject the install, it won't proceed with nagging you again about the update, but the badge will be sitting on the corner of the settings app forever.

Rodster
Sep 24, 2013, 05:17 AM
Indeed once you've reject the install, it won't proceed with nagging you again about the update, but the badge will be sitting on the corner of the settings app forever.

I don't even have the badge. I guess I acknowledged it before it went checking for the update. You could do a complete reset and erase and afterwards go out and acknowledge the OTA update.

rdinterman
Sep 24, 2013, 05:52 AM
I went to update my wife's iPad (she only uses it every few days) and it had already updated to iOS7 and all the apps were updated. It was fine since I had planned on updating it anyway but I was surprised as it had just been sitting unplugged but on WiFi for several days. There was no welcome screen, just an updated iPad. Thought I was crazy until I saw this post.

snappyfool
Sep 24, 2013, 06:02 AM
Yes, don't charge with wifi on; live with this really annoying inconvenience just cos you don't like something far less annoying in iOS 7.

E2EK1EL
Sep 24, 2013, 06:04 AM
I don't even have the badge. I guess I acknowledged it before it went checking for the update. You could do a complete reset and erase and afterwards go out and acknowledge the OTA update.

That could be possible, all the iDevices in my house hold had been through all the iOS 7 Beta stages, GM and Public Builds. I assume they already have all the acknowledge agreements for iOS 7 on record for us.

marktuk
Sep 24, 2013, 06:22 AM
Yes, don't charge with wifi on; live with this really annoying inconvenience just cos you don't like something far less annoying in iOS 7.

Less annoying than an iPad 4 that runs like an iPad? Not a chance. iOS7 hasn't been optimised to the iPad yet, it's as simple as that.

If you don't believe me, upgrade your iPad, then go change the wallpaper, see what happens.

snappyfool
Sep 24, 2013, 06:34 AM
If you don't believe me, upgrade your iPad, then go change the wallpaper, see what happens.

I don't change my wallpaper every day but I do go to bed every night.

virginblue4
Sep 24, 2013, 06:42 AM
Less annoying than an iPad 4 that runs like an iPad? Not a chance. iOS7 hasn't been optimised to the iPad yet, it's as simple as that.

If you don't believe me, upgrade your iPad, then go change the wallpaper, see what happens.

I've upgraded my iPad and as you mentioned the only problem I have is changing the wallpaper. This certaniley doesn't affect the functionality or my experience of using the iPad.

Rodster
Sep 24, 2013, 06:44 AM
That could be possible, all the iDevices in my house hold had been through all the iOS 7 Beta stages, GM and Public Builds. I assume they already have all the acknowledge agreements for iOS 7 on record for us.

That's possible if you did not perform a full reset and erase. I watch my disk space for any unusual changes. It hasn't budged one MB.

rrares1996
Sep 24, 2013, 09:12 AM
Booth my iphone and my ipad are on 6.1.3 and what I did is pretty simple: I installed heavy games on my idevices so that they have at least 2.8gb or 3.2 on ipad. To download the OTA, it requires 2.9 gb free space or even more on newer devices and now I can use wifi all the time with no OTA files filling my idevices space

Jon-PDX
Sep 24, 2013, 10:53 AM
This happened to both our iPad's (a 2 and 3) when they were plugged to to charge them. We leave WiFi on all the time. Both of them downloaded the update but did not automatically install.

It freaked me out and I looked for a setting on them that would allow the download but could not find one.

I was going to update mine anyway but did it through iTunes as a new device.

So now my wife's iPad has the download taking up space but it's not installed. It pissed me off since as far as I'm concerned Apple pushed the download without our consent. I would not be surprised if Apple includes all the "pushed" downloads in the stats when they report the number of downloads.

On the other hand, my iPhone 4S did not get the download pushed to it when I put it on the charger or connected it to the computer and I'm leaving it at 6.1.3 until more bugs get fixed.

Jon...

gentlefury
Sep 24, 2013, 10:56 AM
Fragmentation is something Apple is not interested in. All apps will be iOS 7 optimized in the next few months....auto-update is the best thing they could possibly do! A 100% adoption rate is the best thing that can happen for the OS since it will make devs want to update using new APIs since they won't have any fragmented users.

TheRainKing
Sep 24, 2013, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the warning.

Fortunately I'm jailbroken so OTA is disabled. :)

Zcott
Sep 24, 2013, 11:03 AM
Breaking news: even if you hit update when you're tired it'll still update. Intended behaviour.

Rodster
Sep 24, 2013, 11:04 AM
Fragmentation is something Apple is not interested in. All apps will be iOS 7 optimized in the next few months....auto-update is the best thing they could possibly do! A 100% adoption rate is the best thing that can happen for the OS since it will make devs want to update using new APIs since they won't have any fragmented users.

The above would be true if the iPad 1 could support iOS 7. It is a numbers game for Apple to show their devs they don't want fragmentation but with legacy devices you will always have product and OS fragmentation. :p

I say let users decide if they want to upgrade. Not all users have a vested interest in the iOS ecosystem. Bugs aside I don't like the Flat look on any OS.

Armen
Sep 24, 2013, 11:09 AM
For those who are still on iOS 6 in here and don't want to update to iOS 7, DO NOT charge your iDevices with the WiFi connected!

(Read it again, you will forget and the same applies to me too.)

When this happens, iOS will react like backing up, restoring and downloading from iCloud. It will trigger iOS6 to download the entire 782 MB of iOS 7 OTA and will prompt you to install the update after you've unlocked your device. You can reject it, but days you haven't had your coffee you might hit "install" by accident. Also the first time you go into your settings app, it takes you to the install page right away.

Took me awhile to figure out what was going with the GF's IP4S and why she got notification alerts & badges. Meanwhile I got nothing on my IP5.


Fortunately I've made a fresh, clean and a new user back up for all my iDevices. I can now erase and resync that back up. Just in case, God forbid something happens and I can jump right back as a fresh device without setting everything up again. Something like a ghost imaging for all the Window users and Time Machine Back Up or Carbon Copy Cloner for OSX.

Good Luck

I love how you list this as a "Warning". :rolleyes:

gentlefury
Sep 24, 2013, 11:11 AM
The above would be true if the iPad 1 could support iOS 7. It is a numbers game for Apple to show their devs they don't want fragmentation but with legacy devices you will always have product and OS fragmentation. :p

I say let users decide if they want to upgrade. Not all users have a vested interest in the iOS ecosystem. Bugs aside I don't like the Flat look on any OS.

True, but that's because iPad 1 was a beta device and should have never been released.

Rodster
Sep 24, 2013, 11:16 AM
True, but that's because iPad 1 was a beta device and should have never been released.

The iPad was world class when it was released. Technology improves and so does the iPad and iPhone. The thing is if you don't want fragmentation at least Amazon does it right by forcing an OS update on all it's devices regardless of age.

From A Buick 8
Sep 24, 2013, 12:57 PM
True, but that's because iPad 1 was a beta device and should have never been released.

Well for a beta product we use it everyday and it still serves us well.

ReallyBigFeet
Sep 24, 2013, 04:14 PM
I use to laugh at ppl who stated they've "accidentally" updated and thought it was impossible. After my findings, this can happen to anyone who had a rough night and this would start their day off on as "its one of those days!"

This is a major issue for enterprise-wide deployments of iPad devices. Some apps haven't been updated to iOS7 compatibility yet and if your enterprise devices suddenly start the update, you are screwed.

Doesn't help that Apple doesn't yet let the MDM manufacturers (Airwatch, etc) natively 'block' OS updates.

Techwing
Sep 25, 2013, 03:32 AM
This thread explains my update experience. When I clicked to install iOS 7, it took barely ten minutes to install. I happened to be watching my ADSL modem as it did this, and it never once blinked, which was puzzling because that meant that nothing was being download. Nevertheless, after ten minutes passed, iOS 7 was up and running.

I now realize that the phone must have downloaded the entire update in advance, the first time it popped up a message asking if I wanted to update, and it just kept the files on the phone even though I said no. When I finally chose to update, it used the files it already had to do the update, making it extremely fast.

I wonder what happens on phones that don't have space to download the update (although I guess then they don't have space to do the update, either). And if you run out of space after the update is downloaded, does the phone silently delete the files, wherever they are? They aren't counted in usage statistics, as I would have noticed a 700 MB download in the numbers.

E2EK1EL
Sep 25, 2013, 04:05 AM
Back in iOS 6.0, I found the Automatic Download toggle for iBooks magically appeared one day in settings after iOS 6.0.1 was out and the IP5 hasn't been updated to that build yet. I showed my friend at work on his and he totally freaked out.

Things do magically appear or change with iOS with a flick of a switch from Apple. The recent change is the icon in iCloud back up in iOS 6, which is now showing icons and artwork of iOS7.