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rtomyj
Sep 26, 2013, 07:47 PM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant? I read comments and it's like they're plugging their ears and saying, "I can't hear you". No exchange of ideas, just I'm right and your wrong type of personalities. For the most part they also admit to never owning an iOS device so it's very ignorant over all.

Came from HTC Incredible to iPhone 4S now iPhone 5 and starting with a Nexus 7 to an iPad Mini.

Is it just me or do you guys feel the same way?
Feel free to move this, although I found this forum fitting since you have Android and iPhone geeks.



Renzatic
Sep 26, 2013, 07:54 PM
They're no more arrogant than any of those other obnoxious "My stuff is the greatest and everything else sucks" people. If you were to talk to a bunch of people on Android or WP forums, they'd all tell you Apple fans are the most arrogant, closed minded of the bunch. How you take it all depends on what side of the issue you happen to stand on.

Me? I think all those people are cheesy bastards.

rtomyj
Sep 26, 2013, 07:57 PM
They're no more arrogant than any of those other obnoxious "My stuff is the greatest and everything else sucks" people. If you were to talk to a bunch of people on Android or WP forums, they'd all tell you Apple fans are the most arrogant, closed minded of the bunch. How you take it all depends on what side of the issue you happen to stand on.

Me? I think all those people are cheesy bastards.
See but that's the thing. I look at the site here and you have people hyper critical of Apple but still they love the company. They will also explain pros and cons of iPhone and Android. For the most part they don't just close their minds. Maybe I'm too frequent here.. I don't know xD

tbayrgs
Sep 26, 2013, 08:07 PM
See but that's the thing. I look at the site here and you have people hyper critical of Apple but still they love the company. They will also explain pros and cons of iPhone and Android. For the most part they don't just close their minds. Maybe I'm too frequent here.. I don't know xD

I'll agree if you consider many of the regular participants of this subforum, for the most part. ;) Go spend time in any of the iOS/iPhone/iPad forums though and you'll find much of the same behavior you feel is prevalent on Android focused forums. You're going to find passionate fans of any product, many irrational or blindly loyal. I haven't found any to be any more 'reasonable' than others.

rtomyj
Sep 26, 2013, 08:21 PM
I'll agree if you consider many of the regular participants of this subforum, for the most part. ;) Go spend time in any of the iOS/iPhone/iPad forums though and you'll find much of the same behavior you feel is prevalent on Android focused forums. You're going to find passionate fans of any product, many irrational or blindly loyal. I haven't found any to be any more 'reasonable' than others.

Actually spend time on the iOS 7 board almost exclusively. Haha

mclld
Sep 26, 2013, 08:49 PM
I would say from someone who uses all of the devices/os's and can appreciate them all your op shows your bias and a persecution complex. All these people who are fanatical over electronic devices are weird and all exhibit the same behavior and traits, regardless of which mega corporation they cheerlead

Hastings101
Sep 26, 2013, 09:07 PM
See but that's the thing. I look at the site here and you have people hyper critical of Apple but still they love the company. They will also explain pros and cons of iPhone and Android. For the most part they don't just close their minds. Maybe I'm too frequent here.. I don't know xD

Who knows? Maybe this forum's moderator's take Apple/AnyBrand worshipping trolls (or just plain trolls for that matter) pretty seriously; the ones I've encountered usually end up banned pretty quickly.

May also be because MacRumors has really expanded from entirely Apple - even in just the three or so years I've been here. Other similar sites (Crackberry etc.) are very focused on their one and only brand. Could have something to do with the more general audience that's come around since those changes here that has an interest in Apple + its competitors rather than an audience that only is here for *one* thing?

rtomyj
Sep 26, 2013, 09:12 PM
I would say from someone who uses all of the devices/os's and can appreciate them all your op shows your bias and a persecution complex. All these people who are fanatical over electronic devices are weird and all exhibit the same behavior and traits, regardless of which mega corporation they cheerlead
Or OR (big or) you can't have convo with someone because their closed minded -ness gets in the way. If you've never experienced this, forum or real life, you are lucky AF.

kenknotts
Sep 26, 2013, 09:37 PM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant? I read comments and it's like they're plugging their ears and saying, "I can't hear you". No exchange of ideas.

Android has taken over as the number one platform for fanboys and trolls. Go to any iPhone review on YouTube and you will see dozens of Android fanboys trolling there proclaiming Apple is done, iOS is years behind and the iPhone sucks. They are far worse than any iPhone fanboy.

mellofello
Sep 26, 2013, 09:38 PM
I used to be a iOS blowhard. It is kinda strange that I am now transitioning to a android blowhard. They both have their ups and downs.

You will definitely get flamed into oblivion if you are a noob on xda developers, a lot harder then Mac rumors.

There are worse forums though. I have been getting into cycling, and guys on bike forums have to be the most arrogant of any hobby I have. Never felt so condescended in my life. Their answer to everything is come back when you have a $6,000 bike.

Brittany246
Sep 26, 2013, 10:06 PM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant?

I asked myself this the other day. I notice it on this section of the forum and on the comment section of some Youtube videos. I'm subscribed to a few tech channels on Youtube, and every time there is a video having to do with an iPhone or iPad, the Android fanboys have to announce to the world how much better and cheaper another Android phone or tablet is and how much Apple and iPhones suck. They think phones with higher specs are better phones without question. It's like they don't understand why people like iPhones probably because they've never had one. Some commenter a while ago on a leaked iPad 5 video asked "Why would anybody buy this when they can get a Nexus 7 for half the price?" I mean really? I'd say most of the fanboys are completely ignorant when it comes to Apple products.

I don't usually see it the other way around on a video having to do with an Android phone. It's seriously like it's become cool to hate Apple and Apple products.

If I criticize anything having to do with Android, the fanboys will throw fits and downplay your issues. Of course I see that with Apple fanboys as well, but Android fanboys are more rude and condescending. They act like they're better and smarter because they've got an Android phone.

rtomyj
Sep 26, 2013, 10:19 PM
I asked myself this the other day. I notice it on this section of the forum and on the comment section of some Youtube videos. I'm subscribed to a few tech channels on Youtube, and every time there is a video having to do with an iPhone or iPad, the Android fanboys have to announce to the world how much better and cheaper another Android phone or tablet is and how much Apple and iPhones suck. They think phones with higher specs are better phones without question. It's like they don't understand why people like iPhones probably because they've never had one. Some commenter a while ago on a leaked iPad 5 video asked "Why would anybody buy this when they can get a Nexus 7 for half the price?" I mean really? I'd say most of the fanboys are completely ignorant when it comes to Apple products.

I don't usually see it the other way around on a video having to do with an Android phone. It's seriously like it's become cool to hate Apple and Apple products.

If I criticize anything having to do with Android, the fanboys will throw fits and downplay your issues. Of course I see that with Apple fanboys as well, but Android fanboys are more rude and condescending. They act like they're better and smarter because they've got an Android phone.
This is exactly what I see too. It is frustrating because they act like children. I get the feeling of loving a company, I love Apple. But not experiencing something, anything really, and labeling it as bad or what have you is very frustrating. The YouTube comments are the worst... I've actually been to an Android site, a comment said something like, "The media is biased toward Apple". The site itself only has Android stories, negative Apple stories and the comments get down voted if Android is bad mouthed or if Apple gets a compliment. Even small compliments. That is very ironical in my eyes.

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I used to be a iOS blowhard. It is kinda strange that I am now transitioning to a android blowhard. They both have their ups and downs.

You will definitely get flamed into oblivion if you are a noob on xda developers, a lot harder then Mac rumors.

There are worse forums though. I have been getting into cycling, and guys on bike forums have to be the most arrogant of any hobby I have. Never felt so condescended in my life. Their answer to everything is come back when you have a $6,000 bike.

Haha really? That sucks dude. I remember my gamer days and feeling some hear being on DS forums. Posting on xBox or Playstation X would result in people looking down on me.. I don't know why, it was funny though xD.

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Android has taken over as the number one platform for fanboys and trolls. Go to any iPhone review on YouTube and you will see dozens of Android fanboys trolling there proclaiming Apple is done, iOS is years behind and the iPhone sucks. They are far worse than any iPhone fanboy.
The worst I've seen is people saying, "Apple is the best company evarz" or something along those lines tbh...

TacticalDesire
Sep 26, 2013, 10:34 PM
Being that much of a Fanboy about anything is disgusting. Especially about something as stupid as a phone. I really don't care what other people use as it doesn't affect me and can agree that all OS's have their merits and don't have any deeply personal issues with any of them.

Talk bad or say anything negative about Android, iOS or WP in their respective forums and people act as if you kicked their dog or socked their newborn in the mouth.

spinedoc77
Sep 27, 2013, 09:19 AM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant? I read comments and it's like they're plugging their ears and saying, "I can't hear you". No exchange of ideas, just I'm right and your wrong type of personalities. For the most part they also admit to never owning an iOS device so it's very ignorant over all.

Came from HTC Incredible to iPhone 4S now iPhone 5 and starting with a Nexus 7 to an iPad Mini.

Is it just me or do you guys feel the same way?
Feel free to move this, although I found this forum fitting since you have Android and iPhone geeks.

I think it's from so many years of Apple fanboys arrogance, you know the guys who put blinders on to anything not Apple and will argue on a forum incessantly about why other products are inferior. In all fairness all brands have those kind of guys, but maybe the Android guy is a bit insecure from the first couple years when Android was crappy. Now that Android has surpassed iOS in lots of ways and it's an extremely solid OS maybe they are just enjoying that a bit.

For me I just use what works. I have iOS, Windows and Android all in my electronic life and they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I think most of use are truly eclectic in this regard, but there are always plenty of guys who blindly follow a brand, instead of just buying something and enjoying it.

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Android has taken over as the number one platform for fanboys and trolls. Go to any iPhone review on YouTube and you will see dozens of Android fanboys trolling there proclaiming Apple is done, iOS is years behind and the iPhone sucks. They are far worse than any iPhone fanboy.

Apple has taken over as the number one platform for fanboys and trolls. Go to any Android review on YouTube and you will see dozens of Apple fanboys trolling there proclaiming Android is done, Android is years behind and the Android phones suck. They are far worse than any Android fanboy.

Hmm, it sounds stupid either way I look at it, doesn't it? Buy what you like and enjoy it, and don't worry about the guy next to you.

rtomyj
Sep 27, 2013, 09:24 AM
I think it's from so many years of Apple fanboys arrogance, you know the guys who put blinders on to anything not Apple and will argue on a forum incessantly about why other products are inferior. In all fairness all brands have those kind of guys, but maybe the Android guy is a bit insecure from the first couple years when Android was crappy. Now that Android has surpassed iOS in lots of ways and it's an extremely solid OS maybe they are just enjoying that a bit.

For me I just use what works. I have iOS, Windows and Android all in my electronic life and they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I think most of use are truly eclectic in this regard, but there are always plenty of guys who blindly follow a brand, instead of just buying something and enjoying it.

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Apple has taken over as the number one platform for fanboys and trolls. Go to any Android review on YouTube and you will see dozens of Apple fanboys trolling there proclaiming Android is done, Android is years behind and the Android phones suck. They are far worse than any Android fanboy.

Hmm, it sounds stupid either way I look at it, doesn't it? Buy what you like and enjoy it, and don't worry about the guy next to you.

Actually I went into a couple videos on android phones just know and saw no such thing. I actually did see some people saying one android OEM is superior to another... No mention of Apple unless it was, "Free iPads here!" Or some people saying how crappy it is...

TheHateMachine
Sep 27, 2013, 09:29 AM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant? I read comments and it's like they're plugging their ears and saying, "I can't hear you". No exchange of ideas, just I'm right and your wrong type of personalities. For the most part they also admit to never owning an iOS device so it's very ignorant over all.

Came from HTC Incredible to iPhone 4S now iPhone 5 and starting with a Nexus 7 to an iPad Mini.

Is it just me or do you guys feel the same way?
Feel free to move this, although I found this forum fitting since you have Android and iPhone geeks.

Just the nature of the fanboy, and this isn't behavior simply limited to Android fans, you will see it for any brand out there. (Well except maybe Windows Phone people, they seem rather mellow most of the time) The Verge and Engadget has got to be the worst when it comes to this. The comment sections devolves into 45% of the people rooting for either Apple or Samsung/Google and the rest just wanna have a nice discussion.

spinedoc77
Sep 27, 2013, 09:50 AM
Actually I went into a couple videos on android phones just know and saw no such thing. I actually did see some people saying one android OEM is superior to another... No mention of Apple unless it was, "Free iPads here!" Or some people saying how crappy it is...

Well I was just being sarcastic, I just replaced "Android" with "Apple" to show how nonspecific and dumb that generalization was. You could put in any 2 product or company names in there and it just sounds the same..."Me good, you bad".

samcraig
Sep 27, 2013, 10:22 AM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant? I read comments and it's like they're plugging their ears and saying, "I can't hear you". No exchange of ideas, just I'm right and your wrong type of personalities. For the most part they also admit to never owning an iOS device so it's very ignorant over all.

Came from HTC Incredible to iPhone 4S now iPhone 5 and starting with a Nexus 7 to an iPad Mini.

Is it just me or do you guys feel the same way?
Feel free to move this, although I found this forum fitting since you have Android and iPhone geeks.

I'm pretty sure this thread is simply flame bait.

To the OP - that's your opinion and observation. You're entitled to it. It's certainly not fact nor unique to this forum or any other.

technowar
Sep 27, 2013, 10:26 AM
Have you ever visited Google+ for instance? Even if an article is about comparison between Android smartphone A to Android smartphone B, it still leads to Apple having a rubbish phone. I mean, seriously? Then when Apple fanboys react to it, they're the bad guys.

rtomyj
Sep 27, 2013, 10:50 AM
Have you ever visited Google+ for instance? Even if an article is about comparison between Android smartphone A to Android smartphone B, it still leads to Apple having a rubbish phone. I mean, seriously? Then when Apple fanboys react to it, they're the bad guys.

Part of the Apple page in the Nexus page on Google plus… There have been many Android guys posting stuff about how bad Apple is on both pages. I don't get why they go out of their way to go to an Apple based community to flame. And again you see this from guys who like Android, not do much the other way around..

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I'm pretty sure this thread is simply flame bait.

To the OP - that's your opinion and observation. You're entitled to it. It's certainly not fact nor unique to this forum or any other.

If you think that, don't post. Simple, no?

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Well I was just being sarcastic, I just replaced "Android" with "Apple" to show how nonspecific and dumb that generalization was. You could put in any 2 product or company names in there and it just sounds the same..."Me good, you bad".
But the point is it's worse from Android lovers opposed to Apple lovers..

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Just the nature of the fanboy, and this isn't behavior simply limited to Android fans, you will see it for any brand out there. (Well except maybe Windows Phone people, they seem rather mellow most of the time) The Verge and Engadget has got to be the worst when it comes to this. The comment sections devolves into 45% of the people rooting for either Apple or Samsung/Google and the rest just wanna have a nice discussion.

That's why I love Windows guys. They can have a decent convo. xD

Spacial
Sep 27, 2013, 10:52 AM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant?

Why do you care?

Dontazemebro
Sep 27, 2013, 11:35 AM
Phandroid's the only other site I'm registered on besides xda and I stopped visiting the forum section of phandroid because the immature childishness and fanboyism was overbearing.

But if you think this is bad try going into a major NFL forum and arguing with fans of the other 31 teams. It's an all out onslaught lol

rtomyj
Sep 27, 2013, 11:38 AM
Phandroid's the only other site I'm registered on besides xda and I stopped visiting the forum section of phandroid because the immature childishness and fanboyism was overbearing.

But if you think this is bad try going into a major NFL forum and arguing with fans of the other 31 teams. It's an all out onslaught lol

That's one of the sites ive been visiting. They have great news stories, but the comments bring it down a couple pegs.

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Why do you care?

Reading is key my friend.

T5BRICK
Sep 27, 2013, 11:41 AM
I post here and at XDA. I think I've got another account somewhere, but it's been so long since I've visited, I don't remember which one it was.

It goes both ways. There are many highly opinionated people on the internet. I just ignore them and do my thing. For every Android fan spewing hate about Apple, I've seen an Apple fan spewing hate about Android.

Jessica Lares
Sep 27, 2013, 11:49 AM
Read the thread about the motion sickness in iOS 7 and you'll see it goes both ways.

Pisses me off, especially after seeing the lady on CNN laughing it off this morning.

Stuntman06
Sep 27, 2013, 12:07 PM
See but that's the thing. I look at the site here and you have people hyper critical of Apple but still they love the company. They will also explain pros and cons of iPhone and Android. For the most part they don't just close their minds. Maybe I'm too frequent here.. I don't know xD

I primarily frequent androidforums.com. I find that the moderators are very good there and the conversations tend to more civil than what you would see in many unmoderated sites. This is the other tech forum site that I visit and I do find this site to be pretty well moderated as well.

I think there is fanboyism in all of us to some extent. I do feel it in myself at times. I do hope that when I post about devices that I like or don't like that I don't sound too fanboyish. :o

gotluck
Sep 27, 2013, 12:13 PM
I would say that both sides are equally arrogant.

KentuckyHouse
Sep 27, 2013, 12:53 PM
I would say that both sides are equally arrogant.

Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! :D

Both sides are stupidly blind to the shortcomings of their devices. The key to being neutral is to own devices from both platforms (or even all three if you throw WP8 in the mix) and not being blinded by one over the other. You don't have to own them at the same time, as I do, but at least have owned and used the other platform (for more than a week) before you go boldly proclaiming one is superior to the other, that the other should die, and that the users of the other platform are ignorant plants that only comment because Samsung/Apple/HTC/LG/etc paid them to.

Around here, when you try and be honest about the shortcomings of iOS and the iPhone, you get flamed for being a Phandroid. On other sites, like Android Central, if you're honest about the shortcomings of the S4 or some other flagship Android phone, you're labeled a Fanboy. It's stupid and immature and only intensified by those that throw those tags around (I'm guilty of that in the past as well).

As someone said earlier, use what you like, what works for you, and be happy about it. Don't worry about what other people use/say.

appledes7
Sep 27, 2013, 03:09 PM
Why is it that Android guys are so arrogant? I read comments and it's like they're plugging their ears and saying, "I can't hear you". No exchange of ideas, just I'm right and your wrong type of personalities. For the most part they also admit to never owning an iOS device so it's very ignorant over all.

Came from HTC Incredible to iPhone 4S now iPhone 5 and starting with a Nexus 7 to an iPad Mini.

Is it just me or do you guys feel the same way?
Feel free to move this, although I found this forum fitting since you have Android and iPhone geeks.

Yes, fandroids are more arrogant.

In my experience, fandroids are worse than Apple fanboys. Apple fanboys spend their time obsessing over Apple products and nothing else. Fandroids spend their time bashing Apple and nothing else.

G+ is a perfect example. Go on any of the Android or Nexus communities. You will see more Apple bashing than Google loving.

Fission
Sep 27, 2013, 04:29 PM
I used to be a iOS blowhard. It is kinda strange that I am now transitioning to a android blowhard. They both have their ups and downs.

You will definitely get flamed into oblivion if you are a noob on xda developers, a lot harder then Mac rumors.

There are worse forums though. I have been getting into cycling, and guys on bike forums have to be the most arrogant of any hobby I have. Never felt so condescended in my life. Their answer to everything is come back when you have a $6,000 bike.

OMG this is SOOO right!

I ride to stay in shape and to do stuff with my fiancé and her dad... People at work keep making fun of my old walmart bike...

I manage to do regular 32mile rides, yet I'm still a noob because of my bike.

Savor
Sep 27, 2013, 07:29 PM
Pretty much ANY messageboard is the same way for all parties.

I find many iPhone/Apple fanatics to be the most attention-seeking, shallow, redundant, arrogant, and perhaps the largest blind sheep among all of tech forums. But it can cut both ways with FAndroids.

When I visited ESPN NBA messageboards back in the day, the most obnoxious and less-informed to me were Kobe Bryant fans or Kobe Kids like we called them. They would say their hero was the greatest ever, blah blah blah and rag on LeBron James with ZERO rings. Now the tables have turned.

Internet messageboards were practically catered to talk **** to other groups.

KentuckyHouse
Sep 27, 2013, 11:47 PM
Yes, fandroids are more arrogant.

In my experience, fandroids are worse than Apple fanboys. Apple fanboys spend their time obsessing over Apple products and nothing else. Fandroids spend their time bashing Apple and nothing else.

G+ is a perfect example. Go on any of the Android or Nexus communities. You will see more Apple bashing than Google loving.

And this is the sort of mindset I was talking about earlier. When you use terms like Fandroid or Fanboy, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Grow up.

And I wonder why G+ is so Android-centric? Could it be because it was created by Google? Why does anyone think the hardcore Apple users would flock there? They come to places like MacRumors where they can be around people like themselves. It's that simple.

G+ is no worse than the Apple people that post here daily bashing Android. It's exactly the same mindset.

rtomyj
Sep 28, 2013, 12:37 AM
And this is the sort of mindset I was talking about earlier. When you use terms like Fandroid or Fanboy, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Grow up.

And I wonder why G+ is so Android-centric? Could it be because it was created by Google? Why does anyone think the hardcore Apple users would flock there? They come to places like MacRumors where they can be around people like themselves. It's that simple.

G+ is no worse than the Apple people that post here daily bashing Android. It's exactly the same mindset.

Yes but you'd expect something different since G+ is a social network..

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Pretty much ANY messageboard is the same way for all parties.

I find many iPhone/Apple fanatics to be the most attention-seeking, shallow, redundant, arrogant, and perhaps the largest blind sheep among all of tech forums. But it can cut both ways with FAndroids.

When I visited ESPN NBA messageboards back in the day, the most obnoxious and less-informed to me were Kobe Bryant fans or Kobe Kids like we called them. They would say their hero was the greatest ever, blah blah blah and rag on LeBron James with ZERO rings. Now the tables have turned.

Internet messageboards were practically catered to talk **** to other groups.

I suppose your right. And peoples replies here kinda prove that. Guess it's just ignoring and not posting kinda solution.

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OMG this is SOOO right!

I ride to stay in shape and to do stuff with my fiancé and her dad... People at work keep making fun of my old walmart bike...

I manage to do regular 32mile rides, yet I'm still a noob because of my bike.
32 miles is a lot! xD

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Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! :D

Around here, when you try and be honest about the shortcomings of iOS and the iPhone, you get flamed for being a Phandroid. On other sites, like Android Central, if you're honest about the shortcomings of the S4 or some other flagship Android phone, you're labeled a Fanboy. It's stupid and immature and only intensified by those that throw those tags around (I'm guilty of that in the past as well).


That's the point though. This site in particular, when you say something isn't working for the most part you get people agreeing or trying to solve it. In an Android site you say X isn't working they bash you most often then not.
XDA is actually better at problem solving or I guess staying on topic as a whole.

appledes7
Sep 28, 2013, 02:47 AM
And this is the sort of mindset I was talking about earlier. When you use terms like Fandroid or Fanboy, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Grow up.

And I wonder why G+ is so Android-centric? Could it be because it was created by Google? Why does anyone think the hardcore Apple users would flock there? They come to places like MacRumors where they can be around people like themselves. It's that simple.

G+ is no worse than the Apple people that post here daily bashing Android. It's exactly the same mindset.

You used those same terms in an earlier comment in this exact thread. Why are you pointing me out when you are just as guilty?

Yes, G+ is a Google-made site. Yet, if you would have read, you would have noticed that the issue is that they mostly bash Apple than do any sort of productive Google talk. I never said G+ is Android-centric, as that would mean there are productive android related conversations going on all the time. No, it is mainly Apple bashing.

You say it is the same mindset among different sites, but it really isn't. Some sites actually have productive discussions. Some, like G+, don't. MacRumors for example has very productive iOS discussions in the respective forum. Same with Android in this forum, although there is still a lot of Apple bashing by certain people. Which goes back to my earlier point, a lot of Apple bashing comes from diehard android users.

Heck, you can even go on an Apple community on G+ and there will be so much less Android bashing compared to Android communities with Apple bashing.

charlesdayton
Sep 28, 2013, 09:55 AM
There are trolls and fanboys on each platform. But from my experience the Android ones tend to be more agressive than Apple, MS, Playstation, etc.

Many seem to have an obsession with the iPhone, posting in every single article and trying hard to justify their choice of OS. I have no problem with people expressing their opinion, but many of the trolls only resort to insults and name calling to the users of iPhone not the phone itself.

Their obsession sometime borders on hatred and even appears like envy. Business insider did a survey on smartphones where they asked Android users if they would consider switching to iOS, and interestingly more than half of the respondents said they hate Apple. Quite a silly reason to choose a platform instead of choosing what you like and works for you.

samcraig
Sep 28, 2013, 10:40 AM
There are trolls and fanboys on each platform. But from my experience the Android ones tend to be more agressive than Apple, MS, Playstation, etc.

Many seem to have an obsession with the iPhone, posting in every single article and trying hard to justify their choice of OS. I have no problem with people expressing their opinion, but many of the trolls only resort to insults and name calling to the users of iPhone not the phone itself.

Their obsession sometime borders on hatred and even appears like envy. Business insider did a survey on smartphones where they asked Android users if they would consider switching to iOS, and interestingly more than half of the respondents said they hate Apple. Quite a silly reason to choose a platform instead of choosing what you like and works for you.

And I've see it from both sides equally.

And tons of ignorance from both types of users

gotluck
Sep 28, 2013, 11:40 AM
I haven't seen anyone mention reddit.com/r/android
That's probably my fav way to get android news.

Jibbajabba
Sep 28, 2013, 11:57 AM
I used to be a iOS blowhard. It is kinda strange that I am now transitioning to a android blowhard. They both have their ups and downs.

You will definitely get flamed into oblivion if you are a noob on xda developers, a lot harder then Mac rumors.

There are worse forums though. I have been getting into cycling, and guys on bike forums have to be the most arrogant of any hobby I have. Never felt so condescended in my life. Their answer to everything is come back when you have a $6,000 bike.

Try to start with Linux and ask a simple question on linuxquestions.org - you wished you'd never asked.

robotphood
Sep 28, 2013, 12:10 PM
I frequent a wide range of forums (thank you tapatalk) and there are trolls and snobs on every one of them. They are usually the most vocal . Reading comments on articles has almost become pointless.

Long story short:

Don't post on xda, search and read.

Ride your bike, forget posting about it (bike forums put any other to shame except maybe luxury watch forums)

iOS is the best

Kobe Bryant is the greatest of all time

gotluck
Sep 28, 2013, 01:05 PM
I never knew that bike forums were so notorious, that is pretty funny :D

rtomyj
Sep 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
There are trolls and fanboys on each platform. But from my experience the Android ones tend to be more agressive than Apple, MS, Playstation, etc.

Many seem to have an obsession with the iPhone, posting in every single article and trying hard to justify their choice of OS. I have no problem with people expressing their opinion, but many of the trolls only resort to insults and name calling to the users of iPhone not the phone itself.

Their obsession sometime borders on hatred and even appears like envy. Business insider did a survey on smartphones where they asked Android users if they would consider switching to iOS, and interestingly more than half of the respondents said they hate Apple. Quite a silly reason to choose a platform instead of choosing what you like and works for you.

Pretty much this. They will never admit fault of Google, ever. But it's more than that. They also make up things. "Oh their gonna sue", "They didn't invent that!" when no one said they do or when no one is suing anyone. I get that in the past Apple sued a lot. But it's been almost 2 years since the hardcore cases. Just seems petty is all. Close minded, etc etc.

samcraig
Sep 28, 2013, 07:00 PM
Pretty much this. They will never admit fault of Google, ever. But it's more than that. They also make up things. "Oh their gonna sue", "They didn't invent that!" when no one said they do or when no one is suing anyone. I get that in the past Apple sued a lot. But it's been almost 2 years since the hardcore cases. Just seems petty is all. Close minded, etc etc.

And there are those that never admit the fault of Apple. Again - I see it from both sides equally. I don't think anyone can claim one side is better or worse than the other.

The fact that there are even "sides" is ridiculous.

rtomyj
Sep 28, 2013, 11:55 PM
And there are those that never admit the fault of Apple. Again - I see it from both sides equally. I don't think anyone can claim one side is better or worse than the other.

The fact that there are even "sides" is ridiculous.
Yes there are many who never judge Apple. Again, that's all they do for the most part. They don't go to, say, a YouTube video, Android Article, or fan page and seemingly try to justify something. They don't try to convert like its a religion (again for the most part). In your opinion you see it equally, understandable. But I and many here don't. It really feels like there is no haven for discussion on some places and like it truely is cool to bash Apple.

samcraig
Sep 29, 2013, 07:28 AM
Yes there are many who never judge Apple. Again, that's all they do for the most part. They don't go to, say, a YouTube video, Android Article, or fan page and seemingly try to justify something. They don't try to convert like its a religion (again for the most part). In your opinion you see it equally, understandable. But I and many here don't. It really feels like there is no haven for discussion on some places and like it truely is cool to bash Apple.

I still don't know who this "they" you speak of.

As I stated - members of both "camp" do the exact same thing - and it's no better or no worse from what I've experienced.

It's truly "cool" to bash anything someone doesn't like or is ignorant of. It happens to Apple, Android, Samsung, Nike, Canon, Nikon, Target, K-Mart, Wal-Mart, BMW, Honda and so on.

What I find amusing is that you think this comment of yours is some revelation or that it hasn't been discussed to death. Which is why I posted initially that your thread is flamebait. If you use the search function I am sure you'll find dozens of threads that ask the same question. And have the same responses.

So what's "new" about your thread? Nothing. My opinion of course...

Technarchy
Sep 29, 2013, 09:50 AM
Observation: people who love their iPhone and/or Apple products tend to spend most of their time thinking about how much they love their Apple products. There is high mix of complete apathy and indifference when it comes to competing products, especially android.

iPhone users spend time "doing" largely.

Many people who love android spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about Apple, how their new toy compares to Apple, and why Apple lovers don't love their new android toy as much as they do.

The other half of the time android lovers toil with trying to make their phone work right. A lot of time is spent "fixing" over "doing". The fixing part creates delusions of grandeur where installing a Rom and rooting makes one the next Bill Gates, while an Apple lover would have been done already and moved on to next thing.

onthecouchagain
Sep 29, 2013, 09:54 AM
Observation: people who love their iPhone and/or Apple products tend to spend most of their time thinking about how much they love their Apple products. There is high mix of complete apathy and indifference when it comes to competing products, especially android.

iPhone users spend time "doing" largely.

Many people who love android spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about Apple, how their new toy compares to Apple, and why Apple lovers don't love their new android toy as much as they do.

The other half of the time android lovers toil with trying to make their phone work right. A lot of time is spent "fixing" over "doing". The fixing part creates delusions of grandeur where installing a Rom and rooting makes one the next Bill Gates, while an Apple lover would have been done already and moved on to next thing.

Bill gates? Hardly.

I just feel like I'm in control of my own phone. As another poster said:

The phone caters to me and not the other way around.

Regarding your earlier point, there's no denying Apple's power in branding. Unfortunately they may be relying on it a little too much.

Technarchy
Sep 29, 2013, 10:31 AM
Bill gates? Hardly.

I just feel like I'm in control of my own phone. As another poster said:

The phone caters to me and not the other way around.

Regarding your earlier point, there's no denying Apple's power in branding. Unfortunately they may be relying on it a little too much.

Yes I read that empty platitude about the phone "catering" as well. I thought it was trite drivel the first time I read it. Equally so when it's regurgitated.

Many want to drive, few want to bother being a mechanic. People are largely end-result oriented, or want to be whenever possible, and the iPhone has consistently proven to be a popular and easy means to quickly accomplishing key daily tasks out the box.

I don't spend time tweaking my GS4 because I want it to cater to me. Not exactly at least. I tweak because the performance is spotty out the box, the Samsung keyboard sucks, the stock widgets are resource hungry, and there is over a gig of bloat that not only takes up storage, but also opens randomly in the background and eats RAM and once again kills performance...etc...etc...

Here I am, 8 weeks later and finally my GS4 is at point where it performs acceptably where I can return to being task and end-result oriented and enjoying my GS4, which is all I wanted to begin with.

onthecouchagain
Sep 29, 2013, 11:08 AM
Yes I read that empty platitude about the phone "catering" as well. I thought it was trite drivel the first time I read it. Equally so when it's regurgitated.

Many want to drive, few want to bother being a mechanic. People are largely end-result oriented, or want to be whenever possible, and the iPhone has consistently proven to be a popular and easy means to quickly accomplishing key daily tasks out the box.

I don't spend time tweaking my GS4 because I want it to cater to me. Not exactly at least. I tweak because the performance is spotty out the box, the Samsung keyboard sucks, the stock widgets are resource hungry, and there is over a gig of bloat that not only takes up storage, but also opens randomly in the background and eats RAM and once again kills performance...etc...etc...

Here I am, 8 weeks later and finally my GS4 is at point where it performs acceptably where I can return to being task and end-result oriented and enjoying my GS4, which is all I wanted to begin with.

Fair enough. As I said before, I'm surprised the S4 was your Android phone of choice.

Dontazemebro
Sep 29, 2013, 11:23 AM
Observation: people who love their iPhone and/or Apple products tend to spend most of their time thinking about how much they love their Apple products. There is high mix of complete apathy and indifference when it comes to competing products, especially android.

iPhone users spend time "doing" largely.

Many people who love android spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about Apple, how their new toy compares to Apple, and why Apple lovers don't love their new android toy as much as they do.

The other half of the time android lovers toil with trying to make their phone work right. A lot of time is spent "fixing" over "doing". The fixing part creates delusions of grandeur where installing a Rom and rooting makes one the next Bill Gates,, while an Apple lover would have been done already and moved on to next thing.

I don't know why this had me laughing so hard :D

gotluck
Sep 29, 2013, 11:29 AM
Fair enough. As I said before, I'm surprised the S4 was your Android phone of choice.

I must say that I view touchwiz as sort of a plague on android. Sure it has useful features but I can't help but think that everything would be better if it never existed.

onthecouchagain
Sep 29, 2013, 11:39 AM
I must say that I view touchwiz as sort of a plague on android. Sure it has useful features but I can't help but think that everything would be better if it never existed.

Highly debatable. TouchWiz has been instrumental in Android's growth. Millions of S3, S4, Note II, and soon to be Note III users, not to mention those that buy Galaxy Tablets would disagree it's a "plague" on Android.

gotluck
Sep 29, 2013, 11:46 AM
Highly debatable. TouchWiz has been instrumental in Android's growth. Millions of S3, S4, Note II, and soon to be Note III users, not to mention those that buy Galaxy Tablets would disagree it's a "plague" on Android.
Yes fair enough, my bias is showing. After owning a Samsung device with stock, touchwiz gets a no thanks from me and is an insta nobuy.

Its more of a people don't know that they Dont want touchwiz kind of scenario :p

Spen and airwave sensor (whatever its called) advocates aside though.

Technarchy
Sep 29, 2013, 11:54 AM
Highly debatable. TouchWiz has been instrumental in Android's growth. Millions of S3, S4, Note II, and soon to be Note III users, not to mention those that buy Galaxy Tablets would disagree it's a "plague" on Android.

Many forget that Touchwiz made android palatable. Think back to when then GS2 dropped. Motoblur and Sense were total turds and vanilla android was even more gross than raw android is today.

Touchwiz looked nice, used generous amounts of GPU acceleration to get a mostly consistant and high frame rate in the UI, and was quickly accessible to nearly an iOS level extent.

Apollo 13
Sep 29, 2013, 12:04 PM
I noticed this too. When I first signed up here I only did it to troll Apple fanboys. The moment I bought a ios device I fell in love with it but always bashed ios without owning or touching it. Another thing I noticed that All sites related to Apple product get trolled by a lot of Android users, but when I visit Android sites it's rare to see a Apple user trolling Android.

onthecouchagain
Sep 29, 2013, 12:15 PM
Yes fair enough, my bias is showing. After owning a Samsung device with stock, touchwiz gets a no thanks from me and is an insta nobuy.

Its more of a people don't know that they Dont want touchwiz kind of scenario :p

Spen and airwave sensor (whatever its called) advocates aside though.

I don't ever foresee myself getting a TouchWiz device, either. May change one day and I've come close with the S4 and even now with the Note III, but stock is usually the way to go. (Even then, I throw on Nova Launcher for ultimate customizability. Heh.)

rtomyj
Sep 29, 2013, 03:11 PM
I still don't know who this "they" you speak of.

As I stated - members of both "camp" do the exact same thing - and it's no better or no worse from what I've experienced.

It's truly "cool" to bash anything someone doesn't like or is ignorant of. It happens to Apple, Android, Samsung, Nike, Canon, Nikon, Target, K-Mart, Wal-Mart, BMW, Honda and so on.

What I find amusing is that you think this comment of yours is some revelation or that it hasn't been discussed to death. Which is why I posted initially that your thread is flamebait. If you use the search function I am sure you'll find dozens of threads that ask the same question. And have the same responses.

So what's "new" about your thread? Nothing. My opinion of course...

And again don't post. If I wanted to be original, well I'd have a hard time. Rephrased; it is hard to have an original question. If you can't see that it happens to Apple more than any other company, that's your opinion. You've expressed it here, and now you can move on since you clearly don't have any hing more to say other than, flame bait. Never claimed it was a relevation, merely an observation.

rtomyj
Sep 29, 2013, 03:37 PM
I noticed this too. When I first signed up here I only did it to troll Apple fanboys. The moment I bought a ios device I fell in love with it but always bashed ios without owning or touching it. Another thing I noticed that All sites related to Apple product get trolled by a lot of Android users, but when I visit Android sites it's rare to see a Apple user trolling Android.

Yessir. And really? You joined just to troll? Haha

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Observation: people who love their iPhone and/or Apple products tend to spend most of their time thinking about how much they love their Apple products. There is high mix of complete apathy and indifference when it comes to competing products, especially android.

iPhone users spend time "doing" largely.

Many people who love android spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about Apple, how their new toy compares to Apple, and why Apple lovers don't love their new android toy as much as they do.

The other half of the time android lovers toil with trying to make their phone work right. A lot of time is spent "fixing" over "doing". The fixing part creates delusions of grandeur where installing a Rom and rooting makes one the next Bill Gates, while an Apple lover would have been done already and moved on to next thing.
Err off topic, but you don't seem to have bad intent. (Other posts by you) I would never buy a Samsung and would lean more toward vanilla. Having said that, I do have to work to make it useable and that's why my Nexus 7 has become my coding/Dev tablet.

samcraig
Sep 29, 2013, 04:48 PM
Not worth it. Have a nice day.

Stuntman06
Sep 29, 2013, 07:51 PM
Observation: people who love their iPhone and/or Apple products tend to spend most of their time thinking about how much they love their Apple products. There is high mix of complete apathy and indifference when it comes to competing products, especially android.

I do find that at least on the two forums that I frequent, Macrumors and Androidforums, there are a lot more iPhone users gushing about their phone than Android users. On G+, there are quite often Android users who post screen shots of their home screens that they customise. I guess this is the equivalent of gushing about their phones.

Many people who love android spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about Apple, how their new toy compares to Apple, and why Apple lovers don't love their new android toy as much as they do.

I do this this on Macrumors and on G+. I don't see a lot of this on Androidforums. For me personally, I own an Android phone, but I do have family members who use iPhones who are not as proficient in tech devices in general as I. I end up being the tech support person for my extended family and end up having to fix issues and teach them how to do certain things.

My iOS experience is a little skewed since I have to deal with things that don't "just work" on iOS. The same things tend to "just work" on Android most of the time. The latest issue is sending a picture via WhatsApp. On Android, I go into my gallery and open the picture. Then I tap on the share icon and select WhatsApp. That doesn't work on iOS. On iOS you have to go into WhatsApp and then from there compose the message and then tap on the icon to include a photo. You can also on Android compose the message first and then attach the photo. It is things like this that make me feel iOS is more limited when compared to Android. There are other things about iOS that frustrate me as well.

The other half of the time android lovers toil with trying to make their phone work right. A lot of time is spent "fixing" over "doing". The fixing part creates delusions of grandeur where installing a Rom and rooting makes one the next Bill Gates, while an Apple lover would have been done already and moved on to next thing.

I find that there are very few Android users who do advanced things like custom ROMs. Most Android users I know just use their phones as is and add apps or widgets to add capabilities. It's like most iPhone users install apps.

A lot of the customising I do is organising my apps and widgets so that the most commonly used apps are in my centre home screen. Less used apps and widgets are on the other home screens. Apps that I don't use or rarely use, I don't even put them on my home screen. If I do need them, I just go into the app list and launch them from there.

I consider this type of organising akin to organising apps into folders and moving apps around on iOS. I do use folders myself on Android. On iOS, I would likely also organise the most often used apps on my first home screen and in the middle. I would likely use folders as well to make it easy for me to find the apps I have.

Android does allow for more flexibility in organising the various apps and functions. I do use an alternate launcher. I use it to remove the app dock you see on the bottom of the home screen. I also configure each home screen with 6 rows (instead of 4 + dock) to make more efficient use of screen real estate. I wouldn't consider this "fixing" my phone. It's an option I have on Android and I'm just exercising it. An alternate launcher is just another app I can install on my phone that gives me flexibility in organising my apps.

Over time, phone users install more and more apps on their phone. When I do that, I may need to do some reorganising, particularly if I am using a new widget that takes some significant space on my home screens. On iOS, if you install an app you use very often, you may reorganise your home screen to either move it to the first home screen or to the dock on the bottom of the screen. The place where iOS puts the icon by default may not necessarily be the ideal place for it. On Android, you would do the same to put the app icon where it makes the most sense. That process may or may not involve reorganising things. Also, over time, the apps you use most often may change and may require reorganising as well.

If you don't care about organising your apps, you can just leave the icons where the OS puts it. You can do nothing more than this both on iOS and on Android. If you use very few apps, you may not need to do very much organising of apps or even not at all regardless of whether you use iOS or Android.

There are phone users of both operating systems that like to do a greater level of customising than what is available out of the box or what is inherently intended by the OS or phone manufactures. There are iOS users who jailbreak their phone to allow them to do more. There are also Android users who like to root their phone and install custom ROMs. This level of customisation is beyond my expertise. I think that a small percentage of users of both OS's do advanced things with their phone like this.

The amount of time you spend "fixing" things just depends on how fussy you are or what exactly you are looking for. For instance, there are a variety of weather apps available on Android and iOS. They all offer different features and looks. Whichever one you like the most depends on what features you want. I personally want to see radar imagery showing precipitation in my area. This feature is better on some weather apps than others and is not available on all weather apps that I have tried. I had to try different weather apps to find the one (or ones) that I like the most. I would think that you would have to do that on any OS if you are picky about the apps that you use.