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BiikeMike
Dec 3, 2005, 04:54 PM
Looking for somthing to get the girlfriend that she can take notes on, and surf the internet on. I've been looking for used G4 I and Powerbooks, but they are just to expensive (I'm a poor college student).

she wants a 12" computer to carry around to class and take notes on. She is not very computer savvy, and rarely does anything but word processing and interenet/email. Its hard for me to shop for a computer to do such minor things, because I am a pretty heavy computer user.

I've seen some iBook G3's around for pretty cheap, would it be worth it to get one, and if so, what processor speed should I look for? Thanks!

Jschultz
Dec 3, 2005, 05:21 PM
You could so that kind of stuff on a clamshell iBook if you wanted to, and those things are relatively old.

You could probabaly pick up a dualUSB iBook (500 mhz) for less than 400 bucks. Might need a little bit of memory, but it'd be good for note-taking.(Same machine, and same purpose I used freshman year of college)

Eidorian
Dec 3, 2005, 05:23 PM
iBook G3's are reaching massive price drops.

http://www.techrestore.com/xcart/home.php?cat=254

iBook G3/700 CD 12-inch
$369.99

Just bump it up to 512 MB of RAM. Get Tiger and you're ready to go. It comes with 10.2.8 if you're willing to live with it.

Jschultz
Dec 3, 2005, 05:27 PM
iBook G3's are reaching massive price drops.

http://www.techrestore.com/xcart/home.php?cat=254

iBook G3/700 CD 12-inch
$369.99

Just bump it up to 512 MB of RAM. Get Tiger and you're ready to go. It comes with 10.2.8 if you're willing to live with it.

Holy Cow! I bought an iBook G3/700 CDRW/DVD 12" for $550 back in July, sold it 2 months later. They keep on bottoming out!

I bet you could probably find a 500 mhz machine for 300 bucks or less than.

Eidorian
Dec 3, 2005, 05:30 PM
Holy Cow! I bought an iBook G3/700 CDRW/DVD 12" for $550 back in July, sold it 2 months later. They keep on bottoming out!

I bet you could probably find a 500 mhz machine for 300 bucks or less than.http://www.lowendmac.com/ibook/ig3deals.html

White 12" iBook CD-ROM

500, $330, Surplus Computer, Wegener Media

BiikeMike
Dec 3, 2005, 05:47 PM
Cool, thanks guys, I'll check around

BiikeMike
Dec 3, 2005, 05:49 PM
On a related note, What are the minimum specs of Tiger?

Eidorian
Dec 3, 2005, 06:36 PM
On a related note, What are the minimum specs of Tiger?

http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html

You'll at least want a 500 MHz White Dual USB iBook, 10-20 GB of drive space, and 512 MB of RAM.

calyxman
Dec 3, 2005, 06:40 PM
One caution I would advise you on is the battery. If the battery is still the original, then you may need to replace it rather soon. That's just the nature of being that old.

Eidorian
Dec 3, 2005, 06:43 PM
One caution I would advise you on is the battery. If the battery is still the original, then you may need to replace it rather soon. That's just the nature of being that old.Oh yeah, I forgot about the battery. If they've been heavily used don't expect it to hold a charge for long.

http://www.pbfixit.com/cart/catalog/product_905_iBook_G3_12_Replacement_Battery_New.html

$129.99 here at PB Fix It. Can anyone else find a cheaper one?

BiikeMike
Dec 3, 2005, 07:05 PM
Yeah, I already thought about the battery. Thats a big thing for her.

How would say a G3 800 Dual USB Powerbook stack up to a P3 1.2ghz Dell Inspiron? When I got my new Pbook I gave her my dell. She uses it in her apartment, but its too big and heavy to carry around, plus the battery doesn't hold a charge for more than 30 minutes. Would there be a noticeable lag? I know that the OS will perform better (The dell is running XP) but what about other things?

I really want to get her a G4 867 or 1.2, but I just don't have the money :(

BiikeMike
Dec 3, 2005, 07:08 PM
Just found this on Powerbookguy.com

G4 1Ghz Dual USB iBook 256MB/30GB/CD/12.1" (refurb) - $549.95

sounds like a good deal, no?

Does powerbookguy.com have a good rep?

Eidorian
Dec 3, 2005, 07:11 PM
Just found this on Powerbookguy.com

G4 1Ghz Dual USB iBook 256MB/30GB/CD/12.1" (refurb) - $549.95

sounds like a good deal, no?

Does powerbookguy.com have a good rep?Yeah, Powerbookguy has some good reputation around here. What's the maximum spending limit? You're pretty close to being able to buy a refurbished iBook from Apple. The battery on that thing is more than likely new and you get a 1-year warranty like it was new.

BiikeMike
Dec 4, 2005, 01:47 AM
Yeah, Powerbookguy has some good reputation around here. What's the maximum spending limit? You're pretty close to being able to buy a refurbished iBook from Apple. The battery on that thing is more than likely new and you get a 1-year warranty like it was new.


well, this is above the spending limit, I REALLY want to keep it under $500. I know thats asking a lot, but I don't have a lot of money, and I want to get her somthing she'll really enjoy and get practical use out of instead of some jewlery she'll wear once a year!

Rocksaurus
Dec 4, 2005, 02:59 AM
One thing I've noticed that's gone unmentioned is the fact that G3 White iBooks have known logic board issues... ie they're known for failing. I don't think I'd take a risk on one of those without some type of replacement guarantee/warrantee...

BiikeMike
Dec 4, 2005, 08:44 AM
One thing I've noticed that's gone unmentioned is the fact that G3 White iBooks have known logic board issues... ie they're known for failing. I don't think I'd take a risk on one of those without some type of replacement guarantee/warrantee...

Thanks for crushing my dreams!

calyxman
Dec 4, 2005, 09:15 AM
Here's a place that sells iBook batteries that theoretically have 50% more capacity than the OEM batteries.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/powerbook/battery/ibook-g3-g4-12inch/

BiikeMike
Dec 4, 2005, 09:20 AM
Here's a place that sells iBook batteries that theoretically have 50% more capacity than the OEM batteries.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/powerbook/battery/ibook-g3-g4-12inch/


That adds almost another $150. I'm starting to think this might not work out....

I'll just look at apple for their refurb stuff, and see if I can make up the difference in money somehow

Rocksaurus
Dec 4, 2005, 05:56 PM
Thanks for crushing my dreams!

Isn't it better to know now than when your logic board fails and you have to pay more to replace it? :)

BiikeMike
Dec 4, 2005, 06:01 PM
Isn't it better to know now than when your logic board fails and you have to pay more to replace it? :)


Yeah, I guess so ;)

ftaok
Dec 4, 2005, 08:04 PM
Isn't it better to know now than when your logic board fails and you have to pay more to replace it? :)
However, if you get a recent enough iBook with a bad logic board, you could theoretically qualify for a replacement. At the very least, you'd get a new logic board.

Apple's recall for the logic board calls for three years from first purchase. So if you make the following 2 assumptions, you would still be qualified.

1. The iBook has a SN that falls in the range.
2. The iBook was first purchased on the day that it was introduced.

With those assumptions made, all G3/900mhz iBooks are covered. Also, the G3/800/CD model iBook would be covered as well.

If you disregard assumption 2, many 700 and 800 mhz iBooks may also be covered.

I'm guessing that iBooks that can still qualify are still selling for higher prices. As soon as the iBook doesn't qualify, I bet the price drops.

ft

kingcrowing
Dec 4, 2005, 09:01 PM
man, thats hard to say, if you could find like a 800MHz/900MHz G3 with a replaced logic board, that would be best, although I've heard somewhere that they replaced the logic board with another one that just the same so the problems can come back :-/ not sure though...

BiikeMike
Dec 4, 2005, 10:21 PM
I really want to find a g4 book for her, but I just don't have the cash :( I figure if she's gonna have it for awhile, I may as well get her somthing a little nicer. I dunno...... I'm just trying to be a good boyfriend here, we'll see what happens

Morn
Dec 5, 2005, 08:32 AM
The replaced boards are just fixed boards that already broke and have the same problem. The logic board problem as I understand results from the ATI GPU seperating from the logic board over time. I advice against getting a g3 ibook, perhaps one of the pismo powerbooks would be good :) If the ibook is used a lot for any peroid of time it'll probably fail

chaosbunny
Dec 5, 2005, 09:51 AM
Last year my girlfriend got an old orange "toilet seat" 300 mhz ibook to replace her mid 90ies pc notebook. We added an airport card (yes, you can put one in those things!) so she can connect to my wireless network, check mail, print etc. It is running 10.3.7. She absolutely loves this computer because it looks so sweet. Recently she bought a new battery for about 170 € and due to the low power consumption of the ibook this thing last for 6 hours+. My girlfriend seems to do the same things like yours with her computer. I think you'll find one of those machines for less than 250 bucks.

Just thought I'd share some user expierience;)

chaosbunny
Dec 5, 2005, 10:02 AM
Edit: Just get her what your budget allows. I'm sure she'll like any computer you give her and doesn't want her beloved boyfriend to be broke.

Rocksaurus
Dec 7, 2005, 07:24 PM
However, if you get a recent enough iBook with a bad logic board, you could theoretically qualify for a replacement. At the very least, you'd get a new logic board.

Apple's recall for the logic board calls for three years from first purchase. So if you make the following 2 assumptions, you would still be qualified.

1. The iBook has a SN that falls in the range.
2. The iBook was first purchased on the day that it was introduced.

With those assumptions made, all G3/900mhz iBooks are covered. Also, the G3/800/CD model iBook would be covered as well.

If you disregard assumption 2, many 700 and 800 mhz iBooks may also be covered.

I'm guessing that iBooks that can still qualify are still selling for higher prices. As soon as the iBook doesn't qualify, I bet the price drops.

ft

If this is going to be a first mac for someone, I'd rather our computer of choice not look dysfunctional to them... Also, it's a pain in the butt to deal with (logic board replacement), which is a cost in itself... Honestly I'd say save up a little more and get a G4...

BiikeMike
Dec 7, 2005, 08:35 PM
Yeah, if i get one for her, i'll probably end up getting a G4.

And..... she already likes our computer's of choice, she keeps trying to steal my PB!

caccamolle
Dec 9, 2005, 09:14 AM
well, this is above the spending limit, I REALLY want to keep it under $500. I know thats asking a lot, but I don't have a lot of money, and I want to get her somthing she'll really enjoy and get practical use out of instead of some jewlery she'll wear once a year!

No ! I disagree that that is asking a lot, not at all. For your purposes a G3 700mhz should be OK and way less than $500. HOWEVER I suspect you might do better in PC land, not sure though.

I have one (the dual USB, I think 700mhz) which I got when it came out. I use it for just that, internet browsing and email, there is nothing else you could really do. It is slow though especially slow with OS 10.abc.
good luck

e˛Studios
Dec 9, 2005, 09:49 AM
No ! I disagree that that is asking a lot, not at all. For your purposes a G3 700mhz should be OK and way less than $500. HOWEVER I suspect you might do better in PC land, not sure though.

I have one (the dual USB, I think 700mhz) which I got when it came out. I use it for just that, internet browsing and email, there is nothing else you could really do. It is slow though especially slow with OS 10.abc.
good luck


My G3 900 iBook is far from being slow with 10.4.x, maybe you just need to max out the RAM. My wife plays Sims 2 on it, i used to play Sim City 4, I used it mainly for my graduate studies, MS Office, Internet research, e-mail but its definatly capable of doing more than basic office and internet tasks. It still feels quicker than a lot of newer PC laptops ive been around.

Ed

caccamolle
Dec 9, 2005, 09:34 PM
My G3 900 iBook is far from being slow with 10.4.x, maybe you just need to max out the RAM. My wife plays Sims 2 on it, i used to play Sim City 4, I used it mainly for my graduate studies, MS Office, Internet research, e-mail but its definatly capable of doing more than basic office and internet tasks. It still feels quicker than a lot of newer PC laptops ive been around.

Ed

Wow, I wish that was good news !
My iBook is 700mhz, that I am afraid makes some difference, probably not small. I do have only 384k Ram, but while I considered going to 512 (the max) I wonder if it would be enough of an increase to make a difference.
I am also running 10.3.8 as I was afraid of chocking this guy if I installed Tiger.

Anyhow, as it is, it defintely is slow. But it workd and I still make good use of it.

Let me know if I am wrong though !

Eidorian
Dec 9, 2005, 10:21 PM
Wow, I wish that was good news !
My iBook is 700mhz, that I am afraid makes some difference, probably not small. I do have only 384k Ram, but while I considered going to 512 (the max) I wonder if it would be enough of an increase to make a difference.
I am also running 10.3.8 as I was afraid of chocking this guy if I installed Tiger.

Anyhow, as it is, it defintely is slow. But it workd and I still make good use of it.

Let me know if I am wrong though !640 MB is the maximum on the iBook G3.

caccamolle
Dec 10, 2005, 07:02 AM
640 MB is the maximum on the iBook G3.

thanks - you are right, 512 is the max we can add.

thequicksilver
Dec 10, 2005, 08:17 AM
My G3 900 iBook is far from being slow with 10.4.x, maybe you just need to max out the RAM. My wife plays Sims 2 on it, i used to play Sim City 4, I used it mainly for my graduate studies, MS Office, Internet research, e-mail but its definatly capable of doing more than basic office and internet tasks. It still feels quicker than a lot of newer PC laptops ive been around.

Ed

A bit of perspective - my iBook of the exact same specs felt slow. Very very slow on 10.2.x, and faster but still slow on 10.3.x.

For basic stuff, sure it's a very viable machine. But I wouldn't recommend one under any circumstance unless it really is all you can afford. I benchmarked my G4 1GHz iBook with 768 MB against my G3 900 with 640 MB and it was 76% faster. Unless it's more than 76% more expensive, it's pretty clear which is the better buy.