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scifi451
Jan 3, 2003, 09:29 PM
I am a High School Senior and I am wondering for College I am getting a new laptop. I am going to get a new G4 Laptop, and my question is are the G4 Laptops going to change or be upgraded between now and August???
Thanks for the replys

medea
Jan 3, 2003, 09:37 PM
You'll have to wait at least until January 7th, the date of the MacworldExpo, to find out if there is an update soon, there will definitely be an upgrade soon nobody can really say for what though.

mmoin
Jan 3, 2003, 09:37 PM
I would say that there is a 99.9999999% chance of a Tibook upgrade between now and August.

Bear
Jan 3, 2003, 09:38 PM
The answer to your question is probably. And the probably timeframe for the update is April/May. This is based on a 6 month update cycle for the PowerBook.

scifi451
Jan 3, 2003, 09:41 PM
Ok when the upgrade comes what do you think it will be??? :)

dricci
Jan 3, 2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by scifi451
Ok when the upgrade comes what do you think it will be??? :)

We can guess all we want, but we're never going to be 100% sure. The general rule is, if you need the machine now, then go buy it and enjoy it. It won't get any slower than it originally was just because something newer came out.
If you don't need the machine right now, then go ahead and wait a few months. Either way, the current Power Book G4s should last you for quite a while.

scifi451
Jan 3, 2003, 10:06 PM
I can wait for it...
But I DONT want to wait....:p
I am just curious what the upgrade will be.

Kwyjibo
Jan 3, 2003, 10:40 PM
you need to stop asking these questions, obviously by the fact that were all speculating on a convetion that happens in 3 days we don't know whats gonna happen there. Not to be extremely mean but what makes you think that they know exactly what will be upgraded in 5 or 6 months? Its completely illogical and I think your thread is in the wrong forum, asking for specific information about vague topics that may or may not be backed will not get you anything but frustration. Look at the facts, a few days b4 the 1ghz tibooks were announced we had stories about how a superdrive was impossible in the current casing so how do u expect anyone to speculate that far into the future? These are all questions you should ask before nagging the forum in the nailbiting days b4 MWSF. Of course this is all my opinion but imo the thread is misplaced and you need to calm down, were all excited about future macs but responding to every post is not needed. Next time goto the GENERAL MAC DISCUSSIONS thread. Thanks Kwyjibo

HasanDaddy
Jan 3, 2003, 10:40 PM
The only upgrades would be Bluetooth and a better processor

I can't think of anything else

scifi451
Jan 3, 2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Kwyjibo
you need to stop asking these questions, obviously by the fact that were all speculating on a convetion that happens in 3 days we don't know whats gonna happen there. Not to be extremely mean but what makes you think that they know exactly what will be upgraded in 5 or 6 months? Its completely illogical and I think your thread is in the wrong forum, asking for specific information about vague topics that may or may not be backed will not get you anything but frustration.

Well this is a warm and fuzzy place to post at....
:eek:

Kwyjibo
Jan 3, 2003, 11:02 PM
OK I really didn't want to make you feel left out or out of place that wasn't the purpose of the post at all. There were jsut a few things that had to be emphasized sorry to be the one to tell you. When you post a thread titled "NEW POWERBOOK G4" in the hardware rumors section imo your asking for a move or big flame. Perhaps I'm wrong, I hope if your switching that you follow through but to be honest its a very valid question that should be discussed just not in this thread. And after you quoted the whole thread it makes me wonder if you read it because only part of it was ragging on you the other majority was telling you about Mac cycles and why your question is not anything more than demanding speculation from people (myself included) about things unknown. I mean common what do u expect we don't know whats happening in 3 days let alone 5 months. What do you expect?

Look at your posts
Ok when the upgrade comes what do you think it will be???

I can wait for it...
But I DONT want to wait....
I am just curious what the upgrade will be.

seems like nagging to me? I mean I love new ppl here but if you expect a crystal ball your guess with a little bit of reading back posts is as good as most around here. Thats my 2 cents.

scifi451
Jan 3, 2003, 11:13 PM
Fine I re-ed my last post to only quote part of your rant. Yes I did read all of your post. I was just wondering what people thought would be upgraded when it did get upgraded. I did not expect a blow by blow guess of what would be upgraded. I just came here for advice, I got that from some people. I came here because I was not sure if it would be upgraded how soon. I love Macs, but I dont know everything about them.... Especially when it comes to how often Apple updates their products....... :confused:

8trackmac
Jan 4, 2003, 12:08 AM
i think the question is valid. i wondered the same thing the day i ordered a 1ghz superdrive (for me it came down to liking round numbers.)

it has run flawlessly and has exceeded my expectations. buy one. it'll blow your mind.

or

wait for x.

either way you win.

Beej
Jan 4, 2003, 12:20 AM
I also think that this is a totally valid question, although it is in the wrong forum.

Kwyjibo - your comments about expecting people to have crystal balls are very strange. This is a rumors site, and someone asking "when do you think the TiBooks will be updated next, and what upgrades to you expect" should not be given a mouthfull.

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I think we will see an update before August, based on Apple's current TiBook upgrade cycle as pointed out above. As for what to expect, we may have a better indication in a few days. For example, if we see some new hardware with USB2 and FireWire 2 (not that I'm expecting that) then you can safely expect to see those technologies in the next TiBook update. You can also expect larger HDDs and faster processor speeds, because they are a natural part of hardware updates.

But I think you should go for it now. The current TiBooks are amazing machines, and if you have a use for it now, buy it and love it.

Kwyjibo
Jan 4, 2003, 12:28 AM
they way i talked to scifi was coarse and unneccesary. I do not believe I was wrong but I did present the information in a poor manner. My comments about a Crystal Ball referred to the art of looking into the future, which is an art not a science hence I was trying to say that its all guesswork and he should not be nagging or posting in the wrong category. i still think I am correct on those points. I'm also always curious about upgrades but it gets annyoing when I'm sure most ppl who clicked on this thread expected some sort of rumor on new powerbooks and got a question not a rumor? This all seems logical to me, i'm sorry for offending you scifi, but I still think everything i said was valid.

scifi451
Jan 4, 2003, 02:27 AM
Thank you Kwyjibo, while some of your questions may be valid, What I took most offense at was the tone and the way your questions and comments where presented to me. They came across hostile to me towards my question. I could have probably phrased the title to my topic better, to make it seem more of a question.

will
Jan 4, 2003, 05:11 AM
You might like to read this thread on the next version of the Powerbook: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15714

JSRockit
Jan 4, 2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by scifi451
Ok when the upgrade comes what do you think it will be??? :)

I don't think it'll be a Titanium G4 anymore. The next revision will most likely be a redesign.

redAPPLE
Jan 4, 2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by scifi451
I am a High School Senior and I am wondering for College I am getting a new laptop. I am going to get a new G4 Laptop, and my question is are the G4 Laptops going to change or be upgraded between now and August???
Thanks for the replys

I think this thread is in the wrong place, right?

JSRockit
Jan 4, 2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by redAPPLE


I think this thread is in the wrong place, right?

Why? He's fishing for a "Hardware Rumor" right?

nanosound
Jan 4, 2003, 01:14 PM
The thread in the wrong place...oh no, my day is ruined. We're all going to forum hell for this!

Since they recently updated the TiBook, and if they update at MacWorld (slightly possible feature update), buy one after the 7th. I wouldn't wait beyond that. Go for it.

scifi451
Jan 4, 2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by nanosound
The thread in the wrong place...oh no, my day is ruined. We're all going to forum hell for this!

Since they recently updated the TiBook, and if they update at MacWorld (slightly possible feature update), buy one after the 7th. I wouldn't wait beyond that. Go for it.

It is so hard to wait to buy it.. :o
Especially since I have G3 powerbook 333MHz so it is a couple of years old and I definatly could use a new one.... I will just have to wait and see what shows up at the city by the bay on the 7th...

ColdAngel
Jan 4, 2003, 04:22 PM
Easy :
New design with color changing
Bi-Power 970
2480*900 3D screen
FireWire 2 USB 2
802.11a 802.11b 802.11g with bluetooth
Lithium-Polymere baterry
2kg
For just 2000$
:)
Just a guess

Kid Red
Jan 5, 2003, 12:43 AM
As with all Apple products, something happens every 6 months. Wether just a speed bump or not, every 6 months bring an update. So the next update should be around March.

beatle888
Jan 5, 2003, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by Kwyjibo
you need to stop asking these questions, obviously by the fact that were all speculating on a convetion that happens in 3 days we don't know whats gonna happen there. Not to be extremely mean but what makes you think that they know exactly what will be upgraded in 5 or 6 months? Its completely illogical and I think your thread is in the wrong forum, asking for specific information about vague topics that may or may not be backed will not get you anything but frustration. Look at the facts, a few days b4 the 1ghz tibooks were announced we had stories about how a superdrive was impossible in the current casing so how do u expect anyone to speculate that far into the future? These are all questions you should ask before nagging the forum in the nailbiting days b4 MWSF. Of course this is all my opinion but imo the thread is misplaced and you need to calm down, were all excited about future macs but responding to every post is not needed. Next time goto the GENERAL MAC DISCUSSIONS thread. Thanks Kwyjibo


ass

Kwyjibo
Jan 5, 2003, 11:28 AM
Wow, how cordial of you. Where exactly did you attend finishing school?

Wano
Jan 7, 2003, 10:46 PM
So, what did you do....did you buy one before today 1-7-03 or are you ordering a new one?

scifi451
Jan 8, 2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Wano
So, what did you do....did you buy one before today 1-7-03 or are you ordering a new one?

I have not gotten one yet, and looks like not for a bit yet. I am waiting for the 15 inch to be upgraded whenever that will be......

will
Jan 8, 2003, 05:15 PM
I believe the 15" may well be updated sooner than you think. Before end of March I believe.

scifi451
Jan 8, 2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by will
I believe the 15" may well be updated sooner than you think. Before end of March I believe.
Hopefully you are right and they get updated before the end of March, so I can get one... :)

kmac
Jan 8, 2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by scifi451

Hopefully you are right and they get updated before the end of March, so I can get one... :)


Yes, hopefully.

Wyrm
Jan 9, 2003, 01:52 AM
What about the idea that Apple will CANCEL the 15"?

They are splitting the powerbook market up into super-portable, and desktop replacement. Where does that realistically leave the 15"? I personally hope they don't can it, since I'd like to get a 15" - but then the 17" looks really good too.

All the new Powerbook ads featured just the 2 new ones, not the old 15" one - at all! So that begs the question where is the 15" one in the marketing strategy?

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Wyrm

JSRockit
Jan 9, 2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Wyrm
What about the idea that Apple will CANCEL the 15"?

They are splitting the powerbook market up into super-portable, and desktop replacement. Where does that realistically leave the 15"? I personally hope they don't can it, since I'd like to get a 15" - but then the 17" looks really good too.

All the new Powerbook ads featured just the 2 new ones, not the old 15" one - at all! So that begs the question where is the 15" one in the marketing strategy?

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Wyrm

There is no way that the 15" is being discontinued...they are most likely waiting for inventory to be cleared and then they can roll out an aluminum 15" pBook. They are in a great position with three different pBook options. 12" as the take anywhere portable pBook...15" as a truly portable desktop replacement and the 17" as a movable desktop replacement. It would be a huge mistake to discontinue the 15" pBook...so many people consider its size perfect. Plus, Steve Jobs prefaced the unveiling of the new powerbooks by saying the 15" pBook is not going anywhere.

Wano
Jan 9, 2003, 09:25 PM
I believe that apple already has a 15"PB with the same features as the 17", and you are probably right with the clearing out their inventory. I also think that they want a little more feedback and want to wait to see if there is anything wrong with the 17"PB that would go wrong in the 15" too.

JSRockit
Jan 9, 2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Wano
I believe that apple already has a 15"PB with the same features as the 17", and you are probably right with the clearing out their inventory. I also think that they want a little more feedback and want to wait to see if there is anything wrong with the 17"PB that would go wrong in the 15" too.

Could be true, but why would they have them already if they are waiting to see if anything goews wrong with the 17" pBook? I think we'll see the 15" model soon. What do you think will happen to the iBook?

bentmywookie
Jan 9, 2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by JSRockit


There is no way that the 15" is being discontinued...they are most likely waiting for inventory to be cleared and then they can roll out an aluminum 15" pBook. They are in a great position with three different pBook options. 12" as the take anywhere portable pBook...15" as a truly portable desktop replacement and the 17" as a movable desktop replacement. It would be a huge mistake to discontinue the 15" pBook...so many people consider its size perfect. Plus, Steve Jobs prefaced the unveiling of the new powerbooks by saying the 15" pBook is not going anywhere.

I couldn't agree more. If (more likely when) they update the 15" to the aluminum case with the feature set of the 17" and hopefully improved resolution and battery life, that laptop, in my opinion, will be one serious desktop replacement (Ok that's a pretty pointless statement since it already is a serious desktop replacement - I'm just so anxious for them to update it).

With the improved airport, bluetooth, firewire 800, and the lighted keyboard (oh please don't take it out!), and the fact that it's only .8 lbs heavier than the 12 inch powerbook - man! I seriously cannot wait.


With regards to the iBooks - initially my thought was that they would stay around in some form, but now I think they might just get an upgrade to the 1 ghz chip and possibly some other stuff (airport extreme, bluetooh, superdrive) - but from then on the little Als will take over. Steve said all new computers will only boot into OS X, and it doesn't seem to make too much sense for the iBooks to stay G3 when OS X is altivec-enhanced, as are all the iApps. And the iBook is clearly not getting a G4 since then what would be the point of the little Al?

Didn't the original clamshell iBooks debut at around $1600? Ok, the little Al is $200 more so here's what happens - iBooks get one more rev. to 1 ghz, during this time the price of the G4s will drop and thus the so will the price of the little Als, thus bringing the little Als into the iBook price range on their next update or so, and then . . . no more iBook (by name alone that is).

JSRockit
Jan 9, 2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by bentmywookie


With regards to the iBooks - initially my thought was that they would stay around in some form, but now I think they might just get an upgrade to the 1 ghz chip and possibly some other stuff (airport extreme, bluetooh, superdrive) - but from then on the little Als will take over. Steve said all new computers will only boot into OS X, and it doesn't seem to make too much sense for the iBooks to stay G3 when OS X is altivec-enhanced, as are all the iApps. And the iBook is clearly not getting a G4 since then what would be the point of the little Al?

Didn't the original clamshell iBooks debut at around $1600? Ok, the little Al is $200 more so here's what happens - iBooks get one more rev. to 1 ghz, during this time the price of the G4s will drop and thus the so will the price of the little Als, thus bringing the little Als into the iBook price range on their next update or so, and then . . . no more iBook (by name alone that is).

That's interesting...but I can't see the portable that Apple sells the most of (iBook) leaving anytime soon...unless they can get the 12" pBook down to $1299 in some form or another. However, I don't Apple think wants to ruin the pBook's rep by making a cheap version. The iBook can most certainly survive with a redesign...and can have a G4 running on a 100mhz (until the pBooks are updated) FSB....just like the eMac, iMac as opposed to the pMacs. Look at PC notebooks...there are huge price differences when buying a laptop with a 1.7Ghz P4 as opposed to a 2.2Ghz P4...why can't Apple do the same with the iBook? Just give it a slower G4...I know this most likely won't happen...but could.