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arn
Dec 17, 2005, 11:49 AM
so, apparently, there is a flag to support lowercase at the start of titles.

I hadn't gotten a chance to activate it cause I didn't know what kind of additional work was required. prob just moving all the current upper-case'd titles to lower case (as appropriate).

everyone ready? :)

arn

mkrishnan
Dec 17, 2005, 12:07 PM
nICE fIND, aRN! :)

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 12:36 PM
ok... well it's active now...

I haven't made any page moves... but this will require also changing all references to the Upper Case to Lower Case in all the corresponding wiki pages.

of course these will automatically redirect, but it'll be cleaner to keep it consistent.

arn

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 12:44 PM
note, this screws up some other things too.

Previously, everything was auto capitalized... so

"basedonpost" = "Basedonpost"

I noticed that the "basedonpost" templates links broke, since "Template:basedonpost" doesn't exist. "Template:Basedonpost" does.


arn

Daveway
Dec 17, 2005, 12:47 PM
I dont think I follow tHIS.....

We were always able to start with lowercase before, right??:confused:

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 12:48 PM
Other things are broken:

http://guides.macrumors.com/IPod_mini
notice the images... first letter needs to be capitalized.

before we start working on everything... we sure we want to commit to the case sensitive titles?

arn

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 12:50 PM
I dont think I follow tHIS.....

We were always able to start with lowercase before, right??:confused:

No, titles were forced to be uppercase

"IPod" and "IBook"

the wiki software would capitalized all first letters of links, so even if you linked to "iPod" it would go to "IPod" which allowed some lazy linking.

I changed a setting that allows "iPod" to be a proper page title. That means that "iPod" and "IPod" are different pages. just like "Mac LC" and "Mac lc" are different pages.

arn

mkrishnan
Dec 17, 2005, 12:52 PM
"IPod" and "IBook"

This will reduce the need for antihypertensives among many of the MAC faithful. :D

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 12:57 PM
A side effect of this is it makes inter-sentance linking a bit harder for non-formal names. Might not be issue... but let's take the example of "paper"

Examples:

[[Paper]] is a product made from trees.
Trees are used to make [[paper]]

These used to link to the same page since MediaWiki would auto cap "paper"

Now, we'll have to do this

[[Paper]] is a product made from trees.
Trees are used to make [[Paper|paper]].

Again... this isn't an issue for proper names which are always capitalized.

[[Photoshop]] is a image editing app.
An example of an image editing app is [[Photoshop]].

arn

Daveway
Dec 17, 2005, 01:00 PM
...interesting, I didn't think (PHP?, vBulletin) cared THAT much about case.

So does this mean the pages have to be relinked?

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 01:03 PM
...interesting, I didn't think (PHP?, vBulletin) cared THAT much about case.

So does this mean the pages have to be relinked?

it's a Mediawiki thing.

just means we'll have to be very explicit about links to other pages. [[powerbook]] won't work. you have to use [[Powerbook]].

I've turned it off for now... (and subsequently broken iSync compatible cellphones article) until we decide.

arn

mainstreetmark
Dec 17, 2005, 01:41 PM
aw, man! I had hoped that flag would mean it's entirely case insensitive!

I would suggest that since this is so mac-centric and Apple likes to prefix things with a lowercase "i", it's way more important to be able to say "iPod" vs "IPod" (which already is enjoying a damned life out on the internet). I'm fine with having to do [[Paper|paper]] if it means we can have properly named articles.

Additionally, *all* the terminal commands are currently messed up due to this. "Cd", etc..

And, instead of fixing links all over the place, it wouldn't be to bad to put redirects in.

#REDIRECT [[Paper]]


I vote a very enthusiastic "yes" to this change.

iBlue
Dec 17, 2005, 02:27 PM
crap, does that mean i actually have to start typing the non-lazy way? boo hiss :D

mainstreetmark
Dec 17, 2005, 02:49 PM
The switch has been thrown.

Everyone grab a page from this list, and fix it:

http://guides.macrumors.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Lowercase

arn
Dec 17, 2005, 03:34 PM
Another odd sideeffect...

Lowercase letters come after all Uppercase letters in category alphabetical order.

arn

Mechcozmo
Dec 29, 2005, 11:21 AM
it's a Mediawiki thing.

just means we'll have to be very explicit about links to other pages. [[powerbook]] won't work. you have to use [[Powerbook]].

I've turned it off for now... (and subsequently broken iSync compatible cellphones article) until we decide.

arn

It is PowerBook, save for the Powerbook 100, IIRC.

:D

I vote yes, because after some work, the guides will be CORRECT!

ITASOR
Dec 30, 2005, 07:01 PM
Arn, can't you make it so case doesn't matter? Why should Mac LC and Mac lc be different pages, when they're all really the same thing? :(

I know you probably can't do it since the MediaWiki software doesn't support it, but if you could just disable the case making terms different, that would solve the problems wouldn't it?