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MacBytes
Dec 29, 2005, 01:29 PM
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Link: Security expert says Mac users may have a false sense of security (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20051229142909)

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Flowbee
Dec 29, 2005, 01:38 PM
How is this newsworthy? "Man who releases Mac security software warns Mac users that they may be at risk."

mkrishnan
Dec 29, 2005, 01:42 PM
P.S. 9 out of 10 dairy farmers say that milk is good for you. ;)

Seasought
Dec 29, 2005, 01:44 PM
I think it's a good idea to always have security in the back of your mind regardless of the situation. I tried out MacScan and, after it repeatedly found absolutely nothing, removed it.

mac 2005
Dec 29, 2005, 02:29 PM
How is this newsworthy? "Man who releases Mac security software warns Mac users that they may be at risk."

Agreed. For all the posers in the security industry who claim the Mac isn't as secure as we might think, I've yet to experience one problem from viruses or spyware in all the years I've used Macs. None.

My Dell, on the other hand, has to be protected with multiple applications.

Better a false sense of security borne out by no problems with Mac vs. no sense of security and problems with Windows.

Meantime, isn't it largely because of "hackers" like this guy that computing online has become so perilous?

BakedBeans
Dec 29, 2005, 02:59 PM
P.S. 9 out of 10 dairy farmers say that milk is good for you. ;)


LOL

exactly

greatdevourer
Dec 29, 2005, 03:43 PM
Noooo! Freaky! Don't go over to the dark side!

Wow, I never knew his real name until now. I've been friends with the guy for over a year, yet I never knew his name. Damn, that's weird :p

freaky.staticusers.net is his site, with freaky.staticusers.net/ugboard being his forum

andrewm
Dec 29, 2005, 03:50 PM
Noooo! Freaky! Don't go over to the dark side!

Wow, I never knew his real name until now. I've been friends with the guy for over a year, yet I never knew his name. Damn, that's weird :p

freaky.staticusers.net is his site, with freaky.staticusers.net/ugboard being his forum

When younger--we're talking <i>much</i> younger--I created a ZIP disk (remember those?) of Mac viruses downloaded from his site. I also put a copy of Disinfectant (remember that?) on the disk, just to show that it was for, uh, testing purposes. Yeah, that's right.

To my credit, I password-protected it (and lost the password, IIRC). I suspect that his virus downloads have dropped off significantly since OS X was introduced. :rolleyes:

ham_man
Dec 29, 2005, 04:30 PM
I want to see him and Wil (http://wilshipley.com/blog/2005/09/mac-os-x-viruses-put-up-or-shut-up.html) Shipley (http://wilshipley.com/blog/2005/10/mac-os-x-viruses-results-sort-of.html) in a cage fight...:rolleyes:

starflyer
Dec 29, 2005, 04:36 PM
"you can't go with the attitude that there are no viruses for the Mac"

Why can't I? :confused:

ibook30
Dec 29, 2005, 04:50 PM
I think it's a good idea to always have security in the back of your mind regardless of the situation. I tried out MacScan and, after it repeatedly found absolutely nothing, removed it.

I agree! Let's not be arrogant, becasue it could hapen, but on the other hand I really enjoy this feature of the platform, and am proud to tell friends!

thegreatluke
Dec 29, 2005, 08:35 PM
Eh...
So, a guy who sells antivirus software for your Mac tells you that you may be at risk and that you should buy his product... because you're at risk.

Hmmmmm.......... :rolleyes:


Edit: I say this, though I don't doubt there's a possibility of risks in the future.
However, now isn't the best time for hackers to write viruses/spyware because in a few months they'll have to write them for a new OS. ;D

cwtnospam
Dec 29, 2005, 08:45 PM
Let's not be arrogant, becasue it could...
I think it's ok to be arrogant at least until there are 1000 confirmed Mac viruses in the wild. That would have the number of Mac viruses approaching 1% of the number of Windows viruses, which would indicate a problem. ;)

macnulty
Dec 29, 2005, 08:55 PM
The author is just being prudent. :D

thegreatluke
Dec 29, 2005, 09:14 PM
I think it's ok to be arrogant at least until there are 1000 confirmed Mac viruses in the wild. That would have the number of Mac viruses approaching 1% of the number of Windows viruses, which would indicate a problem. ;)
You forgot the fact that 1,000 of those aforementioned viruses were for Mac OS 9 and under. ;D

grapes911
Dec 29, 2005, 09:20 PM
For anyone who believes a word this guys says,

I just discovered a vulnerability in all operating systems when reading MacRumors. This security hole could wipe out your hard drive, empty your bank account, and eat your children. Send me $12.99 and I'll send you a sticker that you can put on your computer case to prevent this catastrophe. Do not reley on that false sense of security. I have proven results. There is a sicker on my computer and I never experienced this vulnerability.



:rolleyes:

mkrishnan
Dec 29, 2005, 09:24 PM
I think it's ok to be arrogant at least until there are 1000 confirmed Mac viruses in the wild. That would have the number of Mac viruses approaching 1% of the number of Windows viruses, which would indicate a problem. ;)

Well...even one "Zero Day" type of scenario is bad enough, if it actually comes to fruition.... Let's hope it stays the way it has been, though. Five years, zero viruses. Not bad. :)

bousozoku
Dec 29, 2005, 10:26 PM
I agree! Let's not be arrogant, becasue it could hapen, but on the other hand I really enjoy this feature of the platform, and am proud to tell friends!

The time may be coming but it's not today. I consider that there are more holes than there were in Mac OS before Mac OS X and there were viruses for it, even new viruses since 1996 but the danger is much, much lower than for Windows.

I suspect that the first viral attack will be written by anti-virus software developers, in order to create a market that now only exists to shield Windows users from our ability to be a conduit for someone else's virus transmission in e-mails sent to us.

maya
Dec 29, 2005, 10:44 PM
P.S. 9 out of 10 dairy farmers say that milk is good for you. ;)

It isn't. :(

All those wasted years of drinking milk. :o

grapes911
Dec 29, 2005, 10:47 PM
It isn't. :(

All those wasted years of drinking milk. :o

Don't cry over spilled milk.

http://www.mattlum.com/_images/spilled_milk.gif

sjk
Dec 29, 2005, 10:53 PM
I sell tinfoil hats.

ibjoshua
Dec 30, 2005, 02:10 AM
Better a false sense of security borne out by no problems with Mac vs. no sense of security and problems with Windows.
What a wonderfully succinct and and appropriate thing to say. A classic quote.

ibjoshua

Stella
Dec 30, 2005, 07:00 AM
I wish all you people who gloat "mac has no viruses" would be a bit less smug. It will come sooner or later.

Anyway, this article reads more like a advert for MacScan. An advert and no more.

Lacero
Dec 30, 2005, 07:08 AM
In other news, terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden says you are all infidels and stand a good chance of dying by a bomb blast from one of Al Quaeda's suicide bombers.


Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

grapes911
Dec 30, 2005, 09:09 AM
I wish all you people who gloat "mac has no viruses" would be a bit less smug. It will come sooner or later.
It may, it may not. Until that day I'll be as confident and smug as humanly possible.

Peace
Dec 30, 2005, 10:06 AM
We should ask Symantec how "secure" computers are :p

maya
Dec 30, 2005, 10:16 AM
We should ask Symantec how "secure" computers are :p

I believe Symantec infected they own computer systems while trying to write a virus for Mac OS X. ;) :p :D

maya
Dec 30, 2005, 10:18 AM
It may, it may not. Until that day I'll be as confident and smug as humanly possible.

We certainly pay a premium for this right. :p ;) :D

mkrishnan
Dec 30, 2005, 10:19 AM
We should ask Symantec how "secure" computers are :p

Right after we ask Sony what it thinks about the tactics hackers employ to get access to other people's computers.... :rolleyes: :eek: :D

iDM
Dec 30, 2005, 10:20 AM
Its not that I think OS X is impenetrable, its just that I will not worry about security problems until stuff starts creeping up.

Peace
Dec 30, 2005, 10:22 AM
I watched a very interesting program on FreeSpeech TV the other day called Revolution O/S..
It was about the evolution of GNU/Linux..
They chose to build off of BSD due to it being the most secure O/S..

We alll know BSD is the subsystem in OSX..I'm not saying Apple's are immune to security breaches because no computer is failsafe.But I sure feel a lot safer knowing I've got a version of BSD as the engine.So to speak.