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OldCorpse
Jan 1, 2006, 08:34 PM
I've had the Mighty Mouse for a few days now, and I thought I'd write an informal "one user" blurb on it... just user feedback, hopefully useful to someone out there... :)

Installation was a cinch, though I was surprised that you had to restart the computer (I'm on 10.4.3 all up to date)... coming from Apple I'd have expected it to load and work right out of the box. The second thing that was surprising to me, is how long it took to restart... the grey screen with the apple logo and circle underneath was there for a good 3-4 minutes. Third surprise, was that the right "button" functionality is not the default... out of the box, the left and right click are identical, i.e. it's just a standard left click, as if it's a standard Apple one button mouse... you have to go into preferences and select for the right button to work like the right button.

One negative is that the mouse usb cord is a bit short, not intolerable, but not ideal either... on my iBook all the ports including usb are on the left side (rant: does anyone else find that placement extremely suboptimal?? I'd rather have the disc slot on the left side, where it is easy to operate with the left hand, and where disc access is not obstructed by the power cord! Meanwhile, most people are right handed and it's a pain to put in usb drives on the left side compared to the right side, and also all cords like mice cords have to now snake around to reach the right side - how inconvenient! /end rant/). So, now the cord is even shorter, and since it naturally has some kinks in it, it's just a touch short, though not tragically so.

Next, I was surprised to see how big it is, and how heavy. This is definitely not ideal if you want to be portable. Plus, I'm used to mini-mice even when at home, and moving such a big and heavy mouse seems like hauling stones heavy labor.

Another big negative for me, is how slow the mouse is. I put it on the fastest speed in the pref panel, but I still find I have to move my hand a huge distance for the pointer to follow. Frankly, the trackpad is faster.

This next complaint may be a purely personal issue, but somehow the placement of the side buttons is not perfect... I find myself fumbling for them... I realize there's no ideal position, as everyone's hands are different, just be aware of the issue.

On the positive side... I've had none of the problems reported on the various mac boards... the mouse is stable, not overly sensitive, it's very accurate, and the pseudo "buttons" work well. Of course, I've only had it for a few days, so it's possible it'll wig out in the long run, but so far, so good.

The biggest positive for me, is the little scrolling nub that doubles as a button. I love the feel of it, the ease of movement (this has been a pet peeve of mine for years - the wheels on almost all mice are such a CHORE to move - they require way, way, way too much force to use... in fact, I've hung on to my kensiko mice for years and years simply because I could find no mice - none - with a decent wheel... until now, with the Mighty Mouse!). The little nub is extremely accurate, I love the default scrolling speed, I love the feedback sound, and I find the amount of force needed to activate the nub as a button is also perfect (default: controlls dashboard).

So, depite the negatives, the scroll nub/button is such a hit, the mouse is in my mind a success.

Of course, I got this mouse in essence for free in the Amazon deal with the purchase of an iBook, I got a $50 rebate which brings the cost to 0. Were it not for that, and if I had to pay for it would I do it for $50? No, but that's probably more of a subjective thing - I just can't take big mice at this point, only minis, and I know I'm pretty unique in that (most folks, especially those with bigger hands, like a full-size mouse). Plus, I'd like a bluetooth one, which we all know is coming. One other thing for me... I'm trying to learn to operate exclusively with the standard iBook, i.e. only use the trackpad, and really learn keyboard shortcuts, so I've sort of been avoiding any mouse. But overall, I'm glad to have this mouse, and I think it's a perfectly successful product... sure, has some flaws as I enumerated, but overall, I think it's great. Of course, YMMV.



mkrishnan
Jan 1, 2006, 08:38 PM
Nice review! :) Thank you for taking the time and effort to put up such a detailed report of your experience!

Installation was a cinch, though I was surprised that you had to restart the computer (I'm on 10.4.3 all up to date)...

I'm kind of surprised Apple didn't quietly sneak the software into a Tiger dot upgrade. Perhaps they will yet? I get iSight updates through Software Update all the time, and I have never had an iSight. It makes sense, especially since some Macs ship with them.

Did you try plugging it in without installing any software? I'm surprised it doesn't just automatically work as a USB mouse. Although of course the software is important.

mduser63
Jan 1, 2006, 08:42 PM
I've got pretty much the same opinion as you. My Mighty Mouse has sort of wigged out a few times (side buttons go nuts, or the ball stops scrolling), but never permanently. I like the scroll ball so much I can't stand to use other scroll mice because they're so imprecise and require so much finger movement. The scroll ball on the Mighty Mouse, aside from reliability issues, is as close to perfect as any I've ever used.

adrian-cg
Jan 1, 2006, 08:44 PM
Weird, I ignore the discs, plugged the thing and it worked, I was able to configure all the buttons for it.

I'm still puzzled as to what the discs install.

danny_w
Jan 1, 2006, 08:44 PM
I tried a Mighty Mouse using Panther and yes, it does work as a USB mouse without any software. However, I believe the software is needed in Tiger to enable the button selection and enabling of the side buttons; in Panther it only works as a 2-button mouse with scroll wheel, and the functions of the buttons cannot be changed. Personally, I found the placement of the 'nub' too far back on the mouse from what I am used to, and it hurt my hand to use it, so I returned it. I might give it another try some other time if I ever upgrade to Tiger though.

OldCorpse
Jan 1, 2006, 10:25 PM
Did you try plugging it in without installing any software? I'm surprised it doesn't just automatically work as a USB mouse. Although of course the software is important.

Hmm. I did plug it in before I installed the software on the installation disc, and it didn't have the functionality (two button clicking is not default for the right button acts like the left by default).

I disconnected the MM for a few hours and went back to just using the trackpad + keyboard shortcuts, but then decided to plug it back in, so I can keep evaluating it. I must say, the scrolling is addictive... I like the trackpad two finger scrolling, but if you don't keep your fingers just right, you find yourself uselessly "caressing" the trackpad with no effect on the screen... with the scroll nub on MM, it works perfectly every time... :) .

broncoball
Jan 1, 2006, 11:33 PM
i also was able to use it without installing the disks and i could just go to preferences to assign the buttons.

SteveS
Jan 1, 2006, 11:49 PM
Thanks for the review very helpful!

840quadra
Jan 1, 2006, 11:52 PM
Odd, (the install disk thing)

My G4 B&W, Quicksilver, G5, and iBook all work flawlessly with all the updated software and no reboots. I simply plugged in the mouse, setup my expose preferences, and activated the right mouse button with no issue.

Are you sure you had to reboot ?

aspro
Jan 1, 2006, 11:57 PM
Heh when I first got mine I was surprised at the lack of weight. My old logitechs must be the heavyweights of the mouse arena.

OldCorpse
Jan 2, 2006, 12:13 AM
Odd, (the install disk thing)

My G4 B&W, Quicksilver, G5, and iBook all work flawlessly with all the updated software and no reboots. I simply plugged in the mouse, setup my expose preferences, and activated the right mouse button with no issue.

Are you sure you had to reboot ?

Well, I got a dialogue box prompt "you must restart' blah, blah. So I did. Like I said, I was surprised, as it doesn't seem to me mouse software needs to go too deep into the kernel, so what's the need for a reboot... BWDIK.

840quadra
Jan 2, 2006, 12:35 AM
Well, I got a dialogue box prompt "you must restart' blah, blah. So I did. Like I said, I was surprised, as it doesn't seem to me mouse software needs to go too deep into the kernel, so what's the need for a reboot... BWDIK.

Surprise that's all. I was not calling you a liar, nor do I think you did anything wrong.

aswitcher
Jan 2, 2006, 02:25 AM
Mmm. Well I am very tempted by Logitechs latest offering given the "flaws"on the Mighty Mouse

redAPPLE
Jan 2, 2006, 02:26 AM
Weird, I ignore the discs, plugged the thing and it worked, I was able to configure all the buttons for it.

I'm still puzzled as to what the discs install.

maybe windows drivers?

dooze
Jan 2, 2006, 04:01 AM
i have no gripes about the mighty mouse but i cannot say that i like it either. i still prefer my m$ intellimouse.

Danksi
Jan 2, 2006, 04:11 AM
After a bit of adjustment, I've come to live with my Might Mouse. It was initially discarded, as it wasn't as good as my trusty Logitech Notebook mouse, however I like the idea of 4-way scrolling.

I do find the Might Mouse to be a lot more 'scratchy' on my desk - where as my other mice have been silent.

mkrishnan
Jan 2, 2006, 08:19 AM
Mmm. Well I am very tempted by Logitechs latest offering given the "flaws"on the Mighty Mouse

That's really cute. Why can't they use BT like normal people, though! :mad: :D

Danksi
Jan 2, 2006, 08:26 AM
That's really cute. Why can't they use BT like normal people, though! :mad: :D

Logitech does a nice looking Bluetooth mouse:-

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10916

freeny
Jan 2, 2006, 08:38 AM
Weird, I ignore the discs, plugged the thing and it worked, I was able to configure all the buttons for it.

I'm still puzzled as to what the discs install.
The disc installs Mac specific functions for the buttons that dont exist already in the OS. Things like "Expose" and "spotlight". You dont need the software but it adds some features for customization.

Eevee
Jan 2, 2006, 08:42 AM
After a bit of adjustment, I've come to live with my Might Mouse. It was initially discarded, as it wasn't as good as my trusty Logitech Notebook mouse.


Initially, I wasn't very fond of the mighty mouse that came with my G5 PowerMac. Would never spend $50 on this mouse. But like Danksi stated, I come to live with it. I enjoy using the right & left clicks and the small scroll wheel (took a while to get use to it).

Still, I like my Logitech MX 500 much better...but that's just my cup of tea.

Thanks for the thread OldCorpse:rolleyes:

tivoboy
Jan 2, 2006, 08:45 AM
So, having moved BACK to a MAC after nearly a decade, and having had a nice ergonomic logitech mouse, the mighty mouse is making my wrist and forearm sore.

I think I am going to have to add another mouse to this one.

mkrishnan
Jan 2, 2006, 09:56 AM
Logitech does a nice looking Bluetooth mouse:-

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10916

Heh, true, but it's not white. :p Death before clashing color schemes!!!! :mad: :eek: :D

*Franny*
Jan 4, 2006, 08:03 AM
I got a mighty mouse for christmas and a totally love it, it goes perfectly with my ibook!The only problem i've found is the USB cord is a bit short.

tivoboy
Jan 4, 2006, 08:18 AM
Anyone have the issue that sometimes the scroll wheel stops working?

jblock
Jan 4, 2006, 08:20 AM
I'm also a fan of the mighty mouse. I find the scroll button great and easy to use. It doesn't take a lot of effort to scroll. The side buttons took a little to get used to, but I use it so infrequently that I'm glad it takes a little effort to click them.

However, I also got mine for free through Amazon, and I'm not sure I'd pay $50 for it.

OldCorpse
Jan 4, 2006, 01:06 PM
Anyone have the issue that sometimes the scroll wheel stops working?

I don't, but it is my understanding that this is a very common and known (to Apple) issue. Apparently, the scroll nub gets dirty very fast (even from just oils in your skin... the nub is so small, that's enough!). At that point, it'll only scroll up, or only down, or only sideways etc. Usually, cleaning the nub with a cloth or qtip and rolling it vigorously gets rid of the problem... until the next time... this can happen fast, after only a month or two. There have also been cases where the scroll stops altogether and you can't bring it back to life... if it's within warranty, Apple will replace it. Try cleaning first though, since if you get a new one, it'll just get dirty again, meanwhile if you clean it, that gets it back to the original condition, so a new one is not much of an improvement... it's not a unit flaw, it's a design flaw. But then again, some have had the MM work without any problems for a long time, so YMMV.

I'm happy with my MM, but again, I got it free (after rebate) from Amazon w/ the purchase of my iBook. I wouldn't pay $50 for it myself. I find it too big, the cord is too short, and I'd really prefer a bluetooth. You can be quite sure that Apple will come out with a bluetooth version of the MM, at which point, if the reviews are good and it's not much over $50, I'd consider buying it (perhaps they'll find a solution to the dirt problem too, while they're at it)... :D .

brians.account
Jan 4, 2006, 01:20 PM
the problem i have with the mouse is:

like said previously, it's a little sluggish, at times i have to pick my mouse back up and move it back to the top of the mouse pad, but in doing this, trigger the side buttons because of where they are placed, causing me to go into expose. this is especially inconvenient when working in photoshop.

also, right-clicking can be tedious as you have to ensure that none of your index finger is on the left side of the mouse.

in regards to the ball not working, it's been application specific in my experience. just like in firefox cmd <- stops working as "back" when i've had the application open for long periods of time (i.e. a couple of days).

it's definitely a tough decision between this and a regular mouse, although because of it's convenient, if not sometimes obtrusive, expose and dashboard functions, as well as it's rollball, i'd probably go with the mighty mouse

buryyourbrideau
Jan 4, 2006, 01:24 PM
If logitech ended up making the MX1000 again in a BT version.

I would be the happiest person in the world. Best mouse

but not "true" wireless

Eidorian
Jan 4, 2006, 01:34 PM
Logitech does a nice looking Bluetooth mouse:-

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10916I tried it. It's heavy and the mouse tracking unless you have a mouse pad. I returned it within days. I hated having my cursor skip or not move at all. :mad:

OldCorpse
Jan 10, 2006, 02:26 AM
I don't, but it is my understanding that this is a very common and known (to Apple) issue. Apparently, the scroll nub gets dirty very fast (even from just oils in your skin... the nub is so small, that's enough!). At that point, it'll only scroll up, or only down, or only sideways etc. Usually, cleaning the nub with a cloth or qtip and rolling it vigorously gets rid of the problem... until the next time... this can happen fast, after only a month or two. There have also been cases where the scroll stops altogether and you can't bring it back to life... if it's within warranty, Apple will replace it. Try cleaning first though, since if you get a new one, it'll just get dirty again, meanwhile if you clean it, that gets it back to the original condition, so a new one is not much of an improvement... it's not a unit flaw, it's a design flaw. But then again, some have had the MM work without any problems for a long time, so YMMV.

UPDATE: it's been barely 10 days (of which I used the mouse for 5 at most), and my MM stopped scrolling down today (would only scroll up). Taking my own advice (originally glimpsed from posters on MR), I rubbed the mouse scroll nub vigorously on my t shirt. The nub looked clean, but I did notice what seemed a couple of cruddy things [ALERT: possible grossout] - like dead skin come out from under the shell... weird, as I'm a clean person, and I wash my hands frequently... plus the mouse is very clean... nonetheless, there you have it. Anyhow, the upshot: the mouse works like a champ again, scrolling every which way. Of course, prolly until the next time, which may be an annoyingly short time judging by my experience so far... and what if the next time it does not come back to life? Definitely seems to me a design flaw... when I had trackball mice, they trackball would seize up from time to time, but that was like in scale of once every 5-6 months, plus, it was running along a mousepad that accumulated all sorts of dust, hair etc... optical mice, never a single problem... which is why I say: MM has a design flaw. Glad I didn't pay for this mouse. I hope that Apple fixes this issue (if it is fixable), when they inevitably update the MM to bluetooth. Still like the mouse very much, but it has some shortcomings.

russed
Jan 10, 2006, 03:27 AM
Anyone have the issue that sometimes the scroll wheel stops working?


it has done it once or twice, to get around it i just hold the mouse still with one hand and with the other go mad with the ball, press on iit hard and roll it in all directions.

well it seems to work for me!