Who's buying the Revolution?

[DevilDog]

I just wanted to take a survey of how many people are going to buy the revolution. I don't know if there is some out there who could make a poll thing (or wow! a widget!) but i thought you could just add one to the number from the person before if you're buying it. That way there will be a percentage at the end. For example:

Me: 1/1
Next person: (They want it) 2/2
Next person: (They don't want it) 2/3
and so on

maybe that was a dumb idea...

[Viewtiful Rich]

I usually never buy launch day, but I'll be waiting outside some store with bells and whistles launch day. It's going to be incredible and I plan on going all out for a change.

[Chaszmyr]

3/3

A little bit of a dumb idea, I don't think this polling system will hold up :p

[After G]

I will. 4/4

I don't know if naysayers will feel like writing.
But the reason I am getting a Rev: the interface. The touchscreen on the DS is great. I think it'll be the same way with the Rev controller.

[GFLPraxis]

5/5

The first console I bought within a month of launch was the DS. Previously I always waited at least a year. I haven't regretted it. I'm buying a Revolution at launch, or as close to launch as possible. Can't wait :) Even if we have a lack of launch titles, as is usual for new systems (Super Smash Bros online though, whoo), there are still hundreds of classic games downloadable.

[kretzy]

6/6

The last console I bought was a 64, so I've been hanging out to get something new. The Revolution seems so revolutionary that it's got me wanting it bad.

[Golden_315]

6/7

Meh. Nothing new or that exciting about the rev. To me at least. Plus the "remote" controller just seems like a silly idea that was thought up 20 years ago but never used until now

[kretzy]

6/7

Meh. Nothing new or that exciting about the rev. To me at least. Plus the "remote" controller just seems like a silly idea that was thought up 20 years ago but never used until now

Aww, give it some credit. I think it's time we moved beyond the usual console controller, seeing as they've stagnated in any kind of development for quite a while.

[Golden_315]

Well it's definatley a ballsy move. Yet I don't know about the feasablilty of it. Now sure it can add some cool new elements to games. Yet it also seems to be a gimick that Nintendo is using to draw in customers. I mean yeah it would make FPS's easier on a console but I actually like the joypad controller style. Call it a guilty pleasure if you will

[shadowmoses]

7/8

I cant wait to get my hands on one and it will probably be the only next gen console i purchase until the PS3 has a significant price drop, as for the xbox 360 i am totally unimpressed with everything from the graphics and games to the aesthetics of the machine and please dont get me started on the power brick....

SHadow

[Poff]

7/9

I WAS going to buy it, but I recon I'll be sensible and spend the money on my home-studio instead.

In the end, I won't know until I buy it. Would be cool, but recording your songs is also cool. :)

[Sol]

I am not sure if I will buy it on launch day but it will almost certainly be my next console. Just the fact that it offers something unique with the controller, compatibility with my GameCube games, connectivity to my Nintendo DS and the catalogue of classic NES games has sealed the deal.

[Sargiel]

9/11

I like the direction nintendo are going with this - and given that the most fun I've had on a console has been with nintendo games it's a no-brainer.

[Dagless]

10/12

I dunno if I'm doing this right I just saw a pattern and I'm following...

I'm getting one. launch day. there will be no silly waiting like the 360 had. if rumours are true then the Rev is being produced and stockpiled now.

Why? because its the only system offering me something new, to a guy completely uninterested in graphics, next-gen DVD formats or Big Brother style online play.

[thequicksilver]

Who knows? Give me a launch date, a launch price, the price of games, the price of peripherals, the list of games launched with the system, then I'll know.

Til then, how can I decide? I love the look of the Revolution, but let's be serious, we don't know enough about it yet to make any kind of decision. It hasn't even got past the codename stage…

[silverback66]

I'm thinking about it. I like what I'm seeing so far, but this go around I'm only planning on buying one system and I'm equally torn amongst all three right now. On one hand there's the 360 whch will have Oblivion and Halo 3, then there's the PS3 which will have MGS4 and GTA, then there's the Rev that will have the nintendo games and a cool new way to control them. I suppose it'll come down to whether I want a more cinematic gaming experience or a more *ahem* revolutionary one. I'm sure I'll know by the time E3 is over.

[d_saum]

7/9

I WAS going to buy it, but I recon I'll be sensible and spend the money on my home-studio instead.

In the end, I won't know until I buy it. Would be cool, but recording your songs is also cool. :)

The Rev is speculated to launch between $99 and $149 (even if it was $299) what kind of home studio can you build/buy for that little amount of money? Im a musician too and all I need is a mixer, mic, and my mac! What are you looking at getting? (oh and I already have effects pedals for the guitar so I didn't include)

11/13

Im definitely getting it for a: the controller and b: its going to be cheap so why the hell not? and c: backwards compatibility of every game???? Rock on!

[jdechko]

12/14.

I'll definitely be getting one very close to launch date. The gamecube really got me back into console gaming, and I don't really see myself ever going back to pc gaming.

[Eidorian]

13/15

At launch I hope. :D

[takao]

14/16

not sure about launch but i guess within a month

but it depends on how much it will cost etc. ... if it's get released just before exams i'm gonna wait ;)

[Linkjeniero]

15/17

I'm really looking forward to it. Nintendo has never failed me, so why should they this time? I really like the idea of the controller (I just wish they had done the controller attachments wireless too). Plus, there's no way in hell I'm missing the ultimate backwards compatibility Nintendo console.

[tobefirst]

16/18

I'll be buying this system at some point within the first month or so it is out. As of now, I plan on preordering it somewhere, once possible.

[srobert]

17/19

The Revolution will most probably the first of the next generation consoles I will purchase.

The 2 determining factors that rule if I buy a console early are A) Early titles available and B) Price.

I'm pretty sure the Revolution will have me covered on both fronts. It should be cheap enough and have good launch titles. (Metroid=drool) I'm not sure the new controller will be best for all kind of games, but fortunately, I'll be able to plug in a "traditional" controller when needed.

I might go for the PS3 at launch if one of my favorite franchise is available when it's released but so far I expect the price tag to be highly prohibitive. (More expensive that 360? We'll see)

I didn't buy the 360 yet because none of the games available now or announced for the first quarter are of any interest to me. (I don't like sports and racing game) Hopefully time will bring titles more to my personal taste.

[Yvan256]

18/20.

I'm getting mine on launch day. A white or black one, not sure yet.

I've heard rumors that Metroid Prime 3 will be available on launch day too, so it's a no-brainer for me.

As for the price? I'm not worried. Nintendo knows what they're doing.

[Subliving]

19/21

Can't wait to get my hands on this machine. Nintendo may have a lower market share, and create fewer games than the other boxes, but when they're on form, no one can beat them.

I'm waiting for the next Ocarina of Time. When that was released, wow, what a gem!

Subliving

[kuyu]

20/22

Count me in. I'm an avid gamer and plan to get all three consoles. One down, two to go.

[MacRy]

The Rev is speculated to launch between $99 and $149 (even if it was $299) what kind of home studio can you build/buy for that little amount of money?

$99 Dream on dude! The president of Nintendo recently stated that the price point would be 'in a different price range from the PS3 and Xbox 360' meaning below $399 but he didn't say anything about it being $99.

http://www.revolutionreport.com/index.php?act=articles&code=read&id=240

[GFLPraxis]

$99 Dream on dude! The president of Nintendo recently stated that the price point would be 'in a different price range from the PS3 and Xbox 360' meaning below $399 but he didn't say anything about it being $99.

http://www.revolutionreport.com/index.php?act=articles&code=read&id=240
Nintendo has said it is under $300.

They haven't said everything more.

However, IGN claims to have spoken to developers who say that the Revolution is twice as powerful as the GameCube, will sell for around $150 or possibly even $99, and will be designed as a console that anyone can afford.

Take it with a grain of salt. Some people are taking IGN's word as law.

[GFLPraxis]

6/7

Meh. Nothing new or that exciting about the rev. To me at least. Plus the "remote" controller just seems like a silly idea that was thought up 20 years ago but never used until now

What the heck are you talking about? We didn't have motion/tilt/point sensing gyro controllers 20 years ago...
Do you actually understand what the controller does?


Who knows? Give me a launch date, a launch price, the price of games, the price of peripherals, the list of games launched with the system, then I'll know.

Til then, how can I decide? I love the look of the Revolution, but let's be serious, we don't know enough about it yet to make any kind of decision. It hasn't even got past the codename stage…

Well, we know that it's under $300 for sure and possibly $150, will have hundreds of downloadable games, Super Smash Bros online will be a launch title and a Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart game are in development. Metroid Prime 3 development is also under way. Games will be $50, not $60, online play will be free, WiFi is built in, and if you play all the launch titles, there are a few hundred downloadable games to keep you busy.

[ravenvii]

*raises hand* I'm buying it. The only system of the new generation that I will buy on day one. I will also get the PS3, but not until it drops in price - massively.

21/22

[takao]

for those who are going to buy one: what color ?

since i only expect black and white for the launch i will very likely go with the black one.... sadly a red light drive slot might not be an option ;)

[zap2]

22/23

This poll got messed up

I plan to buy one, that is if its 99-149 i think i have to, for that price it would be cool to look at:) I also need to buy a 360 to play Halo 3 which is not out so i'm in no hurrt


Apple Stuff is taking all my $$$

(i need iLife and iWork 06 and if a new Shuffle comes out i want that)

[GFLPraxis]

The numbers are off. It should be 22/24.

[Abulia]

What the heck are you talking about? We didn't have motion/tilt/point sensing gyro controllers 20 years ago...
Do you actually understand what the controller does?Egads! How dare anyone say anything negative about the "revolutionary" new controller? :eek:

I love the irony about taking a lone comment like this as some kind of attack against the Rev (he was stating his opinion and did so, eg: "to me") but it's okay to threadcrap any 360 thread that pops up. :rolleyes:

[Edit] Oh, put me down for "pass"; unless my daughter and/or son want one.

[reberto]

23/25 As long as Nintendo has some good relese titles and keeps it under $200 on release date, I'll bite

[zelmo]

Make that 24/26.
I plan to get both the Rev and PS3 at/near launch date, as long as the games are there.

[Golden_315]

What the heck are you talking about? We didn't have motion/tilt/point sensing gyro controllers 20 years ago...
Do you actually understand what the controller does?


Yes as a matter of fact I do. And I also know what a Light Gun does. Add a silly gyroscope to it and make it fire constantly and you have the new Rev controller. That is how I see it.

[iRhyknow]

25/27

I am VERY excited about the Revolution. The entire stance Nintendo is taking on the industry as a whole right now is very refreshing. Now that they are including online via wi-fi for the DS and the Revolution (rumored) :D they cant miss.

[7on]

WiFi is on the Revolution spec page at nintendo. How else will you download classic games?

I'm getting a Revolution. If nothing more than for the possibility of playing GC games with that remote. And the DS connectivity. I'm guessing the Revolution will be $200. Nintendo always pulls in a profit on their consoles, unlike the competition. This will be a good time to makes some $$ and still be cheaper than alternatives. And with the games being at least $10 cheaper than the Xbox360 games then wow. Maybe Summer 06 with a drop in price to 150 or 175 by Christmas. That's how I'm calling it.

[MacRumorUser]

26/28 I'm getting one most defintely..... However I'll still be waiting till 2009 before the next zelda's available for it... :D :D :D

[risc]

26/29

Call me a graphics whore which I'm not - but yeah I'll buy one WHEN IT SUPPORTS HDTV! Now tell me how it supports 480p! Then I'll explain to you that to see progressive scan in Australia you need a HDTV anyway since we don't have EDTV - so once again yeah I'll consider it when it supports HDTV resolutions, not 480p! If I need an HDTV to run it in progressive scan I want it to run at HD resolutions.

[MacRy]

Sorry I forgot to add that I probably wont be buying one. 26/30

I'm also a little puzzled as to some of the reasons people state for wanting one to be honest:

- It plays lots of old games
- Not worried about graphics
- Not worried about HD
- Will be great to play newer versions of old titles.

Why not just stick with what you've got then? Oh apart from the controller obviously. Seems a little crazy also that people automatically state "I'll be buying one" when there is no real idea of pricing or games lineup and no-one knows how good it will be or whether the revolutionary controller will actually add anything worthwhile.

Just my 2p

[GFLPraxis]

Egads! How dare anyone say anything negative about the "revolutionary" new controller? :eek:

I love the irony about taking a lone comment like this as some kind of attack against the Rev (he was stating his opinion and did so, eg: "to me") but it's okay to threadcrap any 360 thread that pops up. :rolleyes:

[Edit] Oh, put me down for "pass"; unless my daughter and/or son want one.

It's not that, it's just that the comment made no sense. How is the Revolution controller a "twenty year old idea"? If I said the XBox 360 controller was "twenty year old technology" I'd be the laughingstock of the forum.


Yes as a matter of fact I do. And I also know what a Light Gun does. Add a silly gyroscope to it and make it fire constantly and you have the new Rev controller. That is how I see it.

This works nothing like a light gun.

Howstuffworks:
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question273.htm
The computer normally uses one of two different techniques to figure out whether or not the gun is pointed at the target when the user pulls the trigger:

* The computer blanks the screen and then paints just the target object white. If the photodiode senses darkness after one vertical retrace signal and then light after the next, the computer assumes that the gun is pointed at the target and scores a hit.

* The computer blanks the screen and then paints the entire screen white. It takes time for the electron beam to trace the entire screen while painting it white. By comparing the signal coming from the photodiode with the horizontal and vertical retrace signals, the computer can detect where the electron beam is on the screen when the photodiode first senses its light. The computer counts the number of microseconds that pass between the time the horizontal and vertical retrace signals start and the time the photodiode first senses light. The number of microseconds tells the computer exactly where on the screen the gun is pointing. If the calculated position and the position of the target match, the computer scores a hit.

Unlike a light gun, this DOESN'T paint the entire screen white and knows exactly where you are pointing it. "add a silly gyroscope" is a strange way to put it- gyroscopic wireless mouses are a relatively new technology. This is basicly a gyroscopic wireless mouse combined with the ability to sense depth (how far from the reciever it is, something normal gyroscopes don't sense) AND the ability to detect exactly where on the screen you're pointing to a far more accurate degree than a light gun, without flashing the screen white, AND with rumble.

It's very modern technology. If you don't like the idea of using it, fine, but calling it twenty years old is very silly and shows a lack of knowledge on the subject.



I'm also a little puzzled as to some of the reasons people state for wanting one to be honest:

- It plays lots of old games
- Not worried about graphics
- Not worried about HD
- Will be great to play newer versions of old titles.

Since you're asking; HD isn't important for a lot of us lacking an HDTV, and even those that have them. The graphics ARE going to be much better than current gen- it's just going to be the lowest of the three next gen systems, and the price will be much cheaper. It's a fair tradeoff. Playing all the old games on one, very cheap system is a nice bonus.

The real reason I see to buy it is, of course, the new controller- combined with free online play, WiFi, and Nintendo's top-notch franchises.

[Golden_315]

Good point. Nintendo has a habit of releasing the exact same game about a bajillion times. If you don't want the higher quality graphics, HD or the "new" games, stick with the classics. Like Mario 64. Now I love gameplay as much as the next guy, but i'm not going to pretend graphics don't matter.

Plus I like orginal, emergent, gameplay. Not the tired old, Zelda/Mario games that get milked to death. Which is why i'm turned off at the Rev. Nothing so Revolutionary about it if you ask me.

It's not that, it's just that the comment made no sense. How is the Revolution controller a "twenty year old idea"? If I said the XBox 360 controller was "twenty year old technology" I'd be the laughingstock of the forum.

Well like I said before it seems like a Light Gun mod. It's just my opinion. No one says it has to make sense. And the 20 years was just a random number I came up with.

[d_saum]

Yes as a matter of fact I do. And I also know what a Light Gun does. Add a silly gyroscope to it and make it fire constantly and you have the new Rev controller. That is how I see it.

well....as a matter of fact, you dont. I swear Im not a nintendo fanboy. Im more of a video game fanboy, but the rev controller is not even close to a light gun with a "silly gyroscope". Im not even going to try to explain it to you, but if thats what you think it is, you are severely misinformed.

$99 Dream on dude! The president of Nintendo recently stated that the price point would be 'in a different price range from the PS3 and Xbox 360' meaning below $399 but he didn't say anything about it being $99.

http://www.revolutionreport.com/inde...de=read&id=240

Im not dreaming...lol... thanks for noticing the word "SPECULATED". Developers have SPECULATED that it COULD be as LOW AS $99. Follow me? And when that nintendo guy, Iwata???, made his statement, he said it would be below $299, not $399.

[After G]

Good point. Nintendo has a habit of releasing the exact same game about a bajillion times. If you don't want the higher quality graphics, HD or the "new" games, stick with the classics. Like Mario 64. Now I love gameplay as much as the next guy, but i'm not going to pretend graphics don't matter.It's not like the PS3/X360 are going to be light years ahead of the Rev. It's like how the PS2 has weaker graphics than X-Box or Gamecube. Yet people still enjoy gaming on their PS2s. And the Rev might even have better graphics given the speculated later release date.

[MrSugar]

I can play zelda with with real actions and not just hitting buttons,

27 / 31

[After G]

...Unlike a light gun, this DOESN'T paint the entire screen white and knows exactly where you are pointing it. "add a silly gyroscope" is a strange way to put it- gyroscopic wireless mouses are a relatively new technology. This is basicly a gyroscopic wireless mouse combined with the ability to sense depth (how far from the reciever it is, something normal gyroscopes don't sense) AND the ability to detect exactly where on the screen you're pointing to a far more accurate degree than a light gun, without flashing the screen white, AND with rumble.

It's very modern technology. If you don't like the idea of using it, fine, but calling it twenty years old is very silly and shows a lack of knowledge on the subject

<snip>

The real reason I see to buy it is, of course, the new controller- combined with free online play, WiFi, and Nintendo's top-notch franchises.I've read speculation that the design of the controller is such that you can tilt it, and play NES/SNES games with the controller recognizing that the configuration is different. If you look at the Rev controller, and tilt it to the side, it does look a lot like an original NES controller. If this is true, I can imagine using this in a next-gen game, where tilting the controller means you are doing something different. Like using the controller in its tilted configuration for driving, say, a tank, and then untilting the controller to get out of your vehicle and shoot the crap out of bad guys.

I know this would be great in driving games. Now the controller will act like a steering wheel.

A controller that has more ways to interact than just button mashing and direction pads. If that isn't revolutionary, I don't know what is.

[GFLPraxis]

Good point. Nintendo has a habit of releasing the exact same game about a bajillion times. If you don't want the higher quality graphics, HD or the "new" games, stick with the classics. Like Mario 64. Now I love gameplay as much as the next guy, but i'm not going to pretend graphics don't matter.

Plus I like orginal, emergent, gameplay. Not the tired old, Zelda/Mario games that get milked to death. Which is why i'm turned off at the Rev. Nothing so Revolutionary about it if you ask me.



See, it's this I simply don't understand.

How are they milked to death?

Nintendo has released...TWO...Zelda games on the GameCube, and one of them was a 2D party game (Four Swords). Two in the past four years! That is not milking a franchise.

Mario? Okay. Mario Party is milked. Big time. Stop making Mario Party games, Nintendo. 7???

But other than Mario Party, Mario is not milked. People see the names and assume, "Oh, another mario game." But look at the games.

On the gamecube there has been...

One platformer
One soccer game
One baseball game
One dance game
One tennis game
One RPG
One racing game
One golf game

(not counting the billion Mario Party games).

Honestly. How is this milking it? Not one of these games plays REMOTELY the same. Every one is *vastly* different and doesn't play at all like the others. If there were five platformers on the GC, it would be milked. If there were five soccer games, it would be milked. But one of each? Nintendo made sports games and simply used Mario as the character so as to familiarize the characters instead of using normal atheletes. It's not being milked.

Honestly, find me two Mario games (other than remakes and re-releases like All-Stars and the GBA games) that are alike! Mario 1, 2, 3, World, Yoshi's Island, 64, Sunshine...how are these games at all alike?

I just don't understand why people think Mario is being milked. Heck- I want MORE Mario platformers, I haven't had a new one since Mario Sunshine four years ago!

There have been two Metroid games on the GameCube (admittedly, same game engine, though all the weapons and items have been completely revamped and everything is different).

Two Zeldas (one 2D, one 3D).

One Mario platformer.

One of each sports game (using Mario characters).

How are all these "tired, old, and milked to death"?:confused:

That's why we Nintendo fans get excited when a new Zelda game comes out. They are rare. Nintendo is original, like you say you are looking for. Unlike, oh, Madden, where every game is a variation of last year's game, every Nintendo game is vastly different, even sequels.



I know this would be great in driving games. Now the controller will act like a steering wheel.

*drools*
Brilliant! Can you imagine an online Mario Kart on Revolution?

Or...F-Zero? :eek:

Hmmm...reminds me of the CNN article.

I effortlessly pulled off loops and flight stunts I've never been able to manage with today's standard controller in a flying demo, simply by holding the controller as I might a paper airplane. ("Star Fox" fans should start getting excited.)

[Mike Teezie]

28/32....getting one on launch.

[maya]

This might be the first time since 1998 I might actually buy a console. :eek:

Only if they have Donkey Kong Country available. <-- I love that game. ;) :D

[ZildjianKX]

29/33

I always buy Nintendo consoles for the first-party titles. I could care a less about cross-platform titles since they always look better on other systems, and I guess this generation will be the same.

I expect a lot of PS3/360 owners to pick one up as a second console to get exclusive Nintendo games.

[Dagless]

This will make me sound like a bit of a fanboy but I don't see how anyone can like what the 360 and the PS3 stand for. they just seem so dull, so tired. Basically they make me think of a Joan Collins; old lady, lots of cosmetic surgery to try and feel young. Whereas the Rev and DS are something new, fresh. Anyone notice how its only been since the PSX and Xbox were introduced that systems became dull? Its like "well Nintendo and Sega have been doing it like this for years *sticks foot on brakes, sets up home*". the PS3 is basically just the original Playstation for Snes but with extra power, the Xbox is the Dreamcast but with more power.

I dunno. If Apple were in the gaming mix too and bringing out the innovation to be the only competition to Nintendo then I'd salute both and love both. if Sega came back with their original ideas then I'd love them too. Its the innovation I love. its knowing that my system isn't the same as before but with better graphics, hell the before has been done.

I'm going to get a black Revolution. Its been a tradition of mine to get Nintendo machines in black when possible (I have the purple cube because the black had sold out!). Plus it would match my 2005FPW and my Wharfedale speakers. and because black seems to hide better with room design. Maybe its just me but white things look bigger and stand out in a room.

Effectively the Rev's virtual console is the 360 and PS3. gameplay from yesterday with updated graphics.
Are people really that happy in a rut?

[2nyRiggz]

im getting one but im not camping out for one. i'm going to order it ahead of time but that long wait again...hell no.


Bless

[maya]

im getting one but im not camping out for one. i'm going to order it ahead of time but that long wait again...hell no.


Bless

Won't be camping out for a console, after all these companies are taking my money for they product. Why am I so pleased to give it to them and satisfy them by camping out. :p

Anyhow, when there is a bundle pack with some good game titles....I will bug one. :)

[2nyRiggz]

^^hey besides they are getting the money anyway...not in a rush to give it to them..well yes i am:)...good product?..yea sure take the money


Bless

[zflauaus]

This might be the first time since 1998 I might actually buy a console. :eek:

Only if they have Donkey Kong Country available. <-- I love that game. ;) :D
I think 30/34.

Well, if all goes well, you can pay Nintendo a fee and get the old ROM and play it on your Revolution. I will buy a Revolution, not a launch date. I've always been a Nintendo fan-boy and got an XBox last year. Nintendo for console-only games, XBox for non-Nintendo games.

[Macintosh2]

I think i will pass, having the XBOX 360, I really dont see how i will have time playing another system. HD is a HUGE factor for me, excluding that means i will pass on that system

[michaelltd]

31/36

Count me in for the Revolution.

It's the one I'm looking most forward to. Second is PS3. I already own an Xbox 360 and I gotta tell ya, I am kinda regretting that purchase...

Anyways, yeah, looking forward to Revolution and trying that controller out, hopefully in May...

[kaylee]

32/37

My boyfriend and I are splitting the cost of one at launch, plus a few games depending on what's available at launch. We were sold on the revolution before the controller was revealed, and now that's just made us want it more. In the meantime, I'm just waiting on Zelda: Twilight Princess to be released already.

[amemoryoncelost]

I've been toying with getting this, but been a diehard PS fan since the PS1 dropped so long ago. The classic NES titles is making me think about getting both though, I'll probably wait until a month or two after it drops and see how well it's doing...

So right now, undecided..

[fuzzynavo]

32/37

My boyfriend and I are splitting the cost of one at launch, plus a few games depending on what's available at launch. We were sold on the revolution before the controller was revealed, and now that's just made us want it more. In the meantime, I'm just waiting on Zelda: Twilight Princess to be released already.


33/37
I can't wait for Twilight Princess!

I'd probably get one eventually. Even if it doesn't stack up to the PS3 in power, I'd love to be able to play the Nintendo franchises like Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. They should alone justify the price. :)

[kaylee]

33/37
I can't wait for Twilight Princess!

I'd probably get one eventually. Even if it doesn't stack up to the PS3 in power, I'd love to be able to play the Nintendo franchises like Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. They should alone justify the price. :)


Just to let you know, that should be 33/38.

[Sic]

34/39

it'll free up some space on my desk (i'll be able to put my N64, SNES and Gamecube away :o) plus i MUST try that controller. even if there's no decent release titles (which there will be as long as there's a Mario/Zelda/DK for me to play) i'll still have plenty to play on it :)

[.Andy]

I will get one for sure once they're released in Aus. I've skipped the last gen of consoles but my DS has landed me back in the boat for another round. Can't wait for Animal Crossing:Revolution :D.

35/40

[Kernow]

36/41

Will definitely get one on launch day.

I will probably also end up getting one of the other two, when there is a specific must have game

[emutree]

Count me as 37/41. I bought a Gamecube when they had the big price drop and I've had more fun with it in the last 3 years than I've ever had with my PS2, even though I only buy about one game a year for the 'Cube (usually the big holiday Mario sports titles) I play it all year round with my friends. Nintendo knows how to make terrific multiplayer games, and it seems the Revolution's going to have an even bigger multiplayer focus. Plus retro Mario from the SNES, and wifi play have sealed the deal.

[GFLPraxis]

That'd be 37/42.

Looks like Nintendo's ideas are catching on...I should try this poll at other boards and compare.

[Dagless]

Yea on another forum a guy basically said a possible good mirror of the next generation console war is the current PSP and DS scene. one aimed at graphics and power, one aimed cheaper with new idea's. which ones trouncing the other?

I wish Microsoft held back the 360 until the PS3/Nintendo time. I'd love a more complete feeling 360 just to experience HD gaming in my own house. Its going to be a very interesting year this.

[jdechko]

Yea on another forum a guy basically said a possible good mirror of the next generation console war is the current PSP and DS scene. one aimed at graphics and power, one aimed cheaper with new idea's. which ones trouncing the other?

That's a really interesting take on the situation, and I think it extrapolates to the consoles very well. People just don't get it that Nintendo is looking for more of a new experience of how to play games; they're not focused (mainly) on system specs.

I like the link in GFLPraxis' signature. (http://www.nintendoplayers.com) It is a great site for the Rev and provides some interesting information that I didn't know. Apparently, the core of the Rev's new processor *may* be the same core that the 360 uses and the same core to the Cell processor that Sony is using. It's from an Arstechnica article.

[jayscheuerle]

I had an Atari 2600 growing up and just played it again (with my daughter) over Thanksgiving. It was so much basic fun that my girlfriend bought her the Atari Flashback2 for Christmas. I played Nintendo once or twice (my brother in law had it), but the games always seemed... fun. Clever, "remove yourself from reality" fun. If I get this, it will be to play with my daughter and having the back catalog to choose from will be a bonus.

As far as graphics go, from what I've seen of the 360, the HD lends itself to more detail, but not necessarily more realism. Pushing the HD just mocks the fact that it's impossible to achieve the realism of a Pixar film (in both rendering, modeling AND animation) yet. There's plenty of room for improvement until NTSC resolution is eclipsed for imagery.

I'm also intrigued by the new controller. In the two times I ever played the original Nintendo, I never got my head together in using that controller, and I'm guessing it's more simplistic than the standard PS2/360 ones.

Price is going to be more in my league for a whim purchase. It will be interesting to see if I'm swayed by reviews once they come out.

[PharmD]

38/43?

Yes, yes, yes. Cheap, fun and a great controller. I'm pre-ordering as soon as I can. Can you by the way?

[silverback66]

So this is suposed to be twice as powerful as the gamecube right? Or is it four times? I can't recall, but if you look at the difference between DOA3 on Xbox and DOA4 on the 360 it's really not that drastic of a diffence and I don't think Nintendo will lag too far behind in the graphics department this go around either. Particularly considering it's not an HD system. I think I've made up my mind. I'll be getting a Rev....but also a 360 or PS3.

[nimbus]

I think it's more like twice the power of the GameCube, since it's really just a "super" GameCube. But I'll be sure to get it all the same. I can still remember my days at Harvard, blasting away at my friends with Luigi on Mario Kart. Oh the fun...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[OutThere]

40/46 No, I'm not getting one.

First off I hate the controller and don't want to have to go out on buy/configure aftermarket controllers to enjoy playing the system. Second, the Gamecube was extremely disappointing (bad graphics, bad games, bad controller), and I'd rather stay away from Nintendo stuff from now on.

[GFLPraxis]

So this is suposed to be twice as powerful as the gamecube right? Or is it four times? I can't recall, but if you look at the difference between DOA3 on Xbox and DOA4 on the 360 it's really not that drastic of a diffence and I don't think Nintendo will lag too far behind in the graphics department this go around either. Particularly considering it's not an HD system. I think I've made up my mind. I'll be getting a Rev....but also a 360 or PS3.

That quote was published by USA Today and later retracted. It's not "supposed to" be as powerful as anything. There is no official numbers. IGN claims that it's twice as powerful as the GameCube + better caching (faster or more cache I guess), quoting anonymous developers as sources, but that's far from official. All Nintendo has said is that it's less powerful but they believe that the visuals will be on the same level, no drastic difference.

Source:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/522/522559p2.html
Q: Is Revolution "two-to-three times more powerful than GameCube"?

A: USA Today reported this news based on a comment from Nintendo of America's vice president of corporate affairs, Perrin Kaplan. The information was later determined to be false. We do not yet know how much more power Revolution wields over its predecessor.

[GFLPraxis]

That's a really interesting take on the situation, and I think it extrapolates to the consoles very well. People just don't get it that Nintendo is looking for more of a new experience of how to play games; they're not focused (mainly) on system specs.

I like the link in GFLPraxis' signature. (http://www.nintendoplayers.com) It is a great site for the Rev and provides some interesting information that I didn't know. Apparently, the core of the Rev's new processor *may* be the same core that the 360 uses and the same core to the Cell processor that Sony is using. It's from an Arstechnica article.

Why thank you :)

[thequicksilver]

All Nintendo has said is that it's less powerful but they believe that the visuals will be on the same level, no drastic difference.

What's worth considering though is that the manufacturers will always play comments like this though to their advantage. Like the way that Sony state their machine's specs to the theoretical maximum, regardless of the fact that's it's practically impossible to attain what they claim, Nintendo here will be stating that it's going to be visually the same as the low end Xbox 360 and PS3 games. These other consoles will have much more potential for growth, just as we've seen over the life of the current consoles, and you have to expect that two years or so after launch, the Revolution's graphics are going to be lagging quite a bit behind the 360 and PS3.

Not that it bothers me much, I'm still far more interested in the Rev than the other two, but just FWIW.

[jayscheuerle]

These other consoles will have much more potential for growth, just as we've seen over the life of the current consoles, and you have to expect that two years or so after launch, the Revolution's graphics are going to be lagging quite a bit behind the 360 and PS3.

Don't believe that for a minute. The only difference is that the other consoles are HD. Perhaps Nintendo will utilize the extra power they will have from not rendering to HD to create better realism and gameplay.

[rockthecasbah]

41/47 :)

YES. I always buy Nintendo consoles, but the Revolution I absolutely cannot wait for...considering the Gamecube is essentially dead now.

[Kimi]

42/48

I'm getting one if it's cheep. Maybe not on release, but some when I will. I like the idea of the controler, looks like fun. I'm getting a PS3 first, playstation will always be my first games platform. The Revo will make a nice second one.

[MacRy]

40/46 No, I'm not getting one.

First off I hate the controller and don't want to have to go out on buy/configure aftermarket controllers to enjoy playing the system. Second, the Gamecube was extremely disappointing (bad graphics, bad games, bad controller), and I'd rather stay away from Nintendo stuff from now on.

Oh dear god dude! Did you choose the wrong thread to say that in :) Quick put this on.....
http://www.eclats-antivols.fr/modules/Boutique/itmfull/VE30L.jpg

[Dagless]

40/46 No, I'm not getting one.

First off I hate the controller and don't want to have to go out on buy/configure aftermarket controllers to enjoy playing the system. Second, the Gamecube was extremely disappointing (bad graphics, bad games, bad controller), and I'd rather stay away from Nintendo stuff from now on.
bad graphics... Prime, Resident Evil 0,1 & 4, MGS:TS, Star Wars Rebel Strike, F-Zero GX. with no slowdown or choppy frame rates.
bad games... ports of Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7 and the other unique and tangent games that were deemed too good for one console. The best Zelda game ever coming this year, a Mario game with gameplay so powerful its been kept so secret that Shigsy and a few others only know about it.
bad controller... which is why the other consoles are using them in their next gen systems? and why, IMO with my piano fingers is the comfiest controller I've ever held. and you dont think that the next Sony and MS systems will not have gyroscopes or some aspect of the Rev controller copied?

You don't want to go out and buy accessories for the controller? is that any different for buying needed accessories for the 360 (wireless adapter, the whole range of things you have to buy if you bought the foolish Core system) or the PSP (1gb memory stick, extra battery packs etc)? Especially when there will probably be about only 2 main add-ons (Shell & nunchuck).

[maya]

bad graphics... Prime, Resident Evil 0,1 & 4, MGS:TS, Star Wars Rebel Strike, F-Zero GX. with no slowdown or choppy frame rates.
bad games... ports of Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7 and the other unique and tangent games that were deemed too good for one console. The best Zelda game ever coming this year, a Mario game with gameplay so powerful its been kept so secret that Shigsy and a few others only know about it.
bad controller... which is why the other consoles are using them in their next gen systems? and why, IMO with my piano fingers is the comfiest controller I've ever held. and you dont think that the next Sony and MS systems will not have gyroscopes or some aspect of the Rev controller copied?

You don't want to go out and buy accessories for the controller? is that any different for buying needed accessories for the 360 (wireless adapter, the whole range of things you have to buy if you bought the foolish Core system) or the PSP (1gb memory stick, extra battery packs etc)? Especially when there will probably be about only 2 main add-ons (Shell & nunchuck).

I have to add, Sonic. I love Donkey Kong, Mario Party, Sonic type of games. It allows me to live in a pleasant world. :)

[d_saum]

Oh dear god dude! Did you choose the wrong thread to say that in :) Quick put this on.....
http://www.eclats-antivols.fr/modules/Boutique/itmfull/VE30L.jpg

LMAO!!! That is FUNNY AS PHUK!!!!

and....

Don't believe that for a minute. The only difference is that the other consoles are HD. Perhaps Nintendo will utilize the extra power they will have from not rendering to HD to create better realism and gameplay.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
:D

[After G]

40/46 No, I'm not getting one.

First off I hate the controller and don't want to have to go out on buy/configure aftermarket controllers to enjoy playing the system. Second, the Gamecube was extremely disappointing (bad graphics, bad games, bad controller), and I'd rather stay away from Nintendo stuff from now on.I can understand why the controller on the Gamecube would make people go ???. When I played RE4 the first time, the controls definitely pissed me off. But I learned, and eventually enjoyed RE4.

But bad graphics? I'd say it was about the middle. And Nintendo, while it may not make games to your taste, certainly doesn't make bad games. I remember when I had a regular old Playstation, wanting to play a lot of N64 games like Goldeneye. But the use of cartridges turned me off from an N64 back then, because I remember what happened with my NES ... who remembers wiping down the contacts on a NES cart with cotton swabs and blowing in them to get games to play? :)

[Dagless]

I can understand why the controller on the Gamecube would make people go ???. When I played RE4 the first time, the controls definitely pissed me off. But I learned, and eventually enjoyed RE4.

But bad graphics? I'd say it was about the middle. And Nintendo, while it may not make games to your taste, certainly doesn't make bad games. I remember when I had a regular old Playstation, wanting to play a lot of N64 games like Goldeneye. But the use of cartridges turned me off from an N64 back then, because I remember what happened with my NES ... who remembers wiping down the contacts on a NES cart with cotton swabs and blowing in them to get games to play? :)

Ah the old blowing the cart ritual. Funny, I don't hear people saying the same thing about GBA games... I really do think it was just NES and GB games. my sisters N64 plays my semi-ancient 64 games.

[GFLPraxis]

Yeah, it was just NES games. I never blew into SNES or N64 cartridges. And Nintendo says not to do it with DS cartridges.

Anyway; as for the other poster, okay, games are a matter of opinion. I think that saying all gamecube games are bad is *SERIOUSLY* overgeneralizing, but if that's his opinion, whatever. Bad controller is also opinion- most consider the Wavebird to be one of if not the best controller if this generation.

But bad graphics just shows bias. It's not a matter of opinion. XBox > GameCube > PS2. If you're saying GameCube had "bad graphics" you're basicly saying everything except the XBox has bad graphics...dude, seriously, drop the elitism. If you're just trying to make up an excuse to bash GameCube, it's not working very well. If you've just never played a GameCube, then don't bash it.

[Dagless]

Yeah, it was just NES games. I never blew into SNES or N64 cartridges. And Nintendo says not to do it with DS cartridges.

Anyway; as for the other poster, okay, games are a matter of opinion. I think that saying all gamecube games are bad is *SERIOUSLY* overgeneralizing, but if that's his opinion, whatever. Bad controller is also opinion- most consider the Wavebird to be one of if not the best controller if this generation.

But bad graphics just shows bias. It's not a matter of opinion. XBox > GameCube > PS2. If you're saying GameCube had "bad graphics" you're basicly saying everything except the XBox has bad graphics...dude, seriously, drop the elitism. If you're just trying to make up an excuse to bash GameCube, it's not working very well. If you've just never played a GameCube, then don't bash it.

Yup, i think it was Gamefaqs or an equally very popular gaming site that had a poll asking for what you thought was the best controller out now.
The 360 won with the Wavebird just inches behind. Maybe its just me, but I found the Cubes Z button a bit slow to use at times and apparently I'm not the only one... I wonder why MS thought it wise to take the cubes controllers most annoying feature and double it?
animals are so stupid, and so are we for loving them too much :)

[MacsomJRR]

42/48

I'm getting one if it's cheep. Maybe not on release, but some when I will. I like the idea of the controler, looks like fun. I'm getting a PS3 first, playstation will always be my first games platform. The Revo will make a nice second one.

I'd love to pick one up if I have the $$$.

43/49!

[.Andy]

43/49!
Wow ¬88% of people will be getting one! To extrapolate that it works out at about FIVE BILLION Revolution consoles worldwide :eek:!


Unless there's something erroneous with a self-selected poll population and my statistical assumptions........:p

[abhishekit]

If it is less than 200$ I will pre-order it, else I may wait for a month after launch depending on how much cash do I have at the time, but a definite buy nevertheless.

44/50

cheers

[jdechko]

Bad controller is also opinion- most consider the Wavebird to be one of if not the best controller if this generation.

(the only thing I have against the Wavebird is the lack of rumble, so I bought a Pelican G3 wireless that is, IMO, just as good... wireless with or without rumble-can turn it on/off, great battery life- only replaced the batteries twice in 2.5 years, and great range, plus I think its more the normal GC controller size.)

Personally, I think that the GC controller is the easiest to use. "The big green button" the "red button" "above the green button" to "right of the green button". I can't tell you how many people I've used those labels for. A lot of my friends that weren't/aren't into gaming have picked up the controller and played Smash Bros or Super Mario Strikers just because the controls/controllers are easy to learn. Heck, one of my friends has a 3 year old son and he picked up the controller and played (not too well, but he understood the 4 buttons). I think the Rev controller will make it even easier to play (though I hope there is a bit of color on the buttons to make it that easy).

[iKwick7]

Yes. 45/51

It will most likely be priced very reasonably. Main reason though- hells yeah I want to replay some CLASSIC nintendo games of the past! I haven't read much about the specs or anything, but here's to hoping for online multiplayer and for games not made by nintendo (Tecmo Bowl, RBI Baseball anyone???).

[Bunzi2k4]

46/52

with the twilight princess working with the revolution controller, heck yea!!!

[zazenx]

Can't wait.

[HiRez]

48/54 (I guess?)

I will be buying one, I think. I have never bought a Nintendo console other than a GBA SP, but I think I might want a Revolution, despite it being technically the "weakest" of the three new gen. consoles. I have seen the XBOX 360. It's, ok, but very loud and a bit expensive. The PS3 will be even more expensive. Better graphics are fine, but the controller on the Revolution opens up so many cool possibilities that I think the graphics won't be that important. PS3 and 360 offer better graphics, but that's really all they offer, there is nothing really different about those consoles as compared to today's games. So you can play games just like today's, but in HD if you happen to have an HD set up. I guess that's good, but it's not enough for me to buy one.

People are claiming the Revolution to be only 2-3 times as powerful as the GameCube. But come on, this does not exacly mean a TI calculator from 1982. Well, there were some pretty good-looking games for the GameCube, so 2-3x as powerful, with the new controllers, built-in wireless, and a small, quiet enclosure sound just fine to me. Not only that, but because the Revolution is so similar to the GameCube, developers should have an easier time jumping right in and producing more mature games immediately, unlike the PS3 and XBOX which have entirely new architectures that are more difficult to program and debug because of the multithreading and parallelization that will be required. And this will probably make Rev games cheaper as well, probably in the $30-$50 range as opposed to the $40-$65 range you will pay for the other consoles.

Finally the console itself will be cheaper than 360 or PS3. I've heard anywhere from $99 to $249 at launch (I think Iwata saying "less than $400" was just CYA), but I'm going to guess $199, which later drops to $149 and possibly $99. Now compare that to the 360 and PS3 and you'll see the difference will buy quite a few games. I'd rather have a console and a few games and some money left over rather than a console and no games plus an empty wallet.

They were never going to be able to compete with Sony and MS in the escalation of system power because they don't have billions of dollars to lose like they do. The bottom line is the graphics whores will never accept the Revolution no matter what, but it is not targeted at them. The Revolution will open up new markets for Nintendo that the others cannot compete in. For example, I know women who will probably buy a Revolution (I sat with one as we watched the promo video for the controllers and she thought it looked like a lot of fun), but I don't know a single one who is interested in a 360 or PSP. I think the gamble is going to pay off for Nintendo, but only time will tell. For evidence, you need look no further than what Nintendo did with the DS vs. the PSP, it's a very similar thing.

[HiRez]

A little bit of a dumb idea, I don't think this polling system will hold up :pBTW, to the OP, you know you have the option of having a poll with your post right? It's an option on the bottom when you start a new topic and would work a lot better than this manual counting!

[Jovian9]

49/55

I will definitely be buying mine as soon as they are released. I haven't looked forward to a new system this much since the SNES.

[Dagless]

49/55

I will definitely be buying mine as soon as they are released. I haven't looked forward to a new system this much since the SNES.

I've never looked forward to a console! So i can't really judge, but I just really want to get my hands on a Rev. I was a little like... "oh theres a new Nintendo machine coming out next year... oh this is quite nice... *gets one at xmas a year later*".
I was a bit desperate for the DS. I love a Nintendo handheld as they last longer (shelf life as well as toughness i suppose) than anything else I've had. I think!

[2nyRiggz]

umm was i tripping when i saw someone typed something about the gamecube sucking? have you even played the gamecube...the cube has some really games...very good indeed. stop hating.

Bless

[plinkoman]

so whats this, 50/56 ?

yea, i'll definately be getting it. to avoid lines, or stores being out of stock, i'm just going to pre-order it, and controller attachments, and a good game or two at my local EB, so i can just walk in the day of launch and they'll have one sitting there for me.

hell, i already paid for twilight princess. i did that back in august when it was supposed to be released in november. oh well, i'll get it soon enough :p

[jayscheuerle]

It's interesting that here in a Mac forum, so many people seem to prefer a machine where software matters more than hardware specs. Go figure.. :)

[Dagless]

It's interesting that here in a Mac forum, so many people seem to prefer a machine where software matters more than hardware specs. Go figure.. :)

yup! Who needs specs, my 1.5ghz PowerBook provides a better experience and its faster than my 3ghz PC laptop. optimisation friends! near zero load times on Cube because of such optimisations too. if only developers spent time learning about a machine than banging out another mediocre title.

its like all this PSP stuff, that it can perform much faster. but I'm just a little lost because im seeing all this power (PSP, 360) and nothing notable on either. go figure again! :D

[SamIchi]

This is the only console I'm goin' to buy at launch, cause it's Nintendo, and I actually have money to do so. :D

[Ecodisk]

51/57....I think

I'm getting the rev. because I play games for fun not for shiny graphics and I personally am getting tired of playing what seems to be basically the same game over and over with a shiny new cover. I wish more games were out there like REZ or Katamari. I think the rev. with its unique controller and the fact that it can hook to the DS will open the door for more unique games that are put out there just to try something new.

[briansolomon]

52/58

I won't get it immediately maybe I'll wait for a price drop to $150, but since I've become a more casual gamer and a poor college student I could never even think about spending 300 or 400 for a system and then having to buy 60 dollar games, and 40 or 50 dollar controllers. What's up with that? And Nintendo always puts out solid multiplayer games which is what I am usually playing.

[TEG]

53/59

I'm looking forward to the new way to play. I'm also hoping for a new Super Mario Bros. game.

TEG

[AP_piano295]

53/60

Im not going to but what I read earlyier in this thread interests me between 99-150 dollars doesnt seem possible. But i cant see my self buying a system that costs 500 bucks up front and 50 dollars a pop per game and cant do anything else (and dont give me the ohhh its a dvd player and a music player a dvd player costs 10 bucks these days), so if the revolution is actually that cheep then i would consider it just a little. Yet I dont see any way in hell that it could be that cheep i mean the ds was 150 bucks so yeah that seems like crap.

[AP_piano295]

Oy Raggedjinni youve said that you develop games what have you worked on? Do you actually work for nintendo
kinda off topic but hey im interested

[DrNeroCF]

55/62

Pretty sure my sis is gonna want one for christmas after she plays the one I stole from Nintendo HQ way before launch :cool:

Know about 5 guys back at school who can't wait to get their hands on one either...

Once the Kiosks start popping up and people see how much mad genius the thing is, that's when everyone will want one. :D

[GFLPraxis]

53/60

Im not going to but what I read earlyier in this thread interests me between 99-150 dollars doesnt seem possible. But i cant see my self buying a system that costs 500 bucks up front and 50 dollars a pop per game and cant do anything else (and dont give me the ohhh its a dvd player and a music player a dvd player costs 10 bucks these days), so if the revolution is actually that cheep then i would consider it just a little. Yet I dont see any way in hell that it could be that cheep i mean the ds was 150 bucks so yeah that seems like crap.


Nintendo has stated on the record that it will be cheaper than the XBox 360 (which is $300). So it is for sure under $300. The N64 was $250 and the GameCube was $200. IGN is claiming that developers have told them that the system is about twice as powerful as the XBox and $150 or around that, possibly as low as $99, so that Nintendo can launch at a low price point. While IGN could very well be wrong- we know that they want to attract casual gamers, so it's likely to be very low price point (like the GameCube was $200).

So don't expect it to cost $500. The PS3 might, though :P

[AP_piano295]

Nintendo has stated on the record that it will be cheaper than the XBox 360 (which is $300). So it is for sure under $300. The N64 was $250 and the GameCube was $200. IGN is claiming that developers have told them that the system is about twice as powerful as the XBox and $150 or around that, possibly as low as $99, so that Nintendo can launch at a low price point. While IGN could very well be wrong- we know that they want to attract casual gamers, so it's likely to be very low price point (like the GameCube was $200).

So don't expect it to cost $500. The PS3 might, though :P

The 360 is sort of 300 dollars realistically to get a good version your paying around 450 (including HD and wireless controllers etc.) I never knew that the n64 launched at a higher price point than game cube seems unusual but hey its electronics the only things that do get cheaper as time goes on. I hate gamecube... its just the no internet thing... its icky. And I never liked the controlers loved the n64 controlers and the xbox and ps controlers but I never liked the gamecube controllers.

[DevilDog]

I just want to see Nintendo win because everyone at school makes fun of it and that it's for kids. Like they say the DS is worse than PSP because they see the screen and are like "wow!" But I just want to rub it in their face. I'll be a senior in high school when it comes out (assuming thanksgivingish like the DS) so I'll just say "told you so" once Nintendo wins.

[GFLPraxis]

The 360 is sort of 300 dollars realistically to get a good version your paying around 450 (including HD and wireless controllers etc.) I never knew that the n64 launched at a higher price point than game cube seems unusual but hey its electronics the only things that do get cheaper as time goes on. I hate gamecube... its just the no internet thing... its icky. And I never liked the controlers loved the n64 controlers and the xbox and ps controlers but I never liked the gamecube controllers.

Well, I don't really care about online play this generation because my router is too far away from my consoles. Without WiFi, I can't play online anyway. And WiFi bridges cost a fortune.

Lacking online play doesn't make a console icky. And btw, use the GC controller for a while, once you get the hang of it its quite good- you put your finger on the center button and can shift it to any of the buttons around it, and can feel buttons based on their shape and texture, unlike the XBox and PS2 which have a bunch of the same size and shape buttons- sometimes seperated by quite a distance (you have to lift your finger up to reach the triangle button on the PS2, for example).

[GFLPraxis]

I just want to see Nintendo win because everyone at school makes fun of it and that it's for kids. Like they say the DS is worse than PSP because they see the screen and are like "wow!" But I just want to rub it in their face. I'll be a senior in high school when it comes out (assuming thanksgivingish like the DS) so I'll just say "told you so" once Nintendo wins.

The majority of high school students are just plain stupid (not you, obviously, as you like Nintendo and Apple, which are labeled "kiddie" and "sucks" in most high schools). They go by what's popular rather than useful and make fun of people who are different. Am I ever glad I got out of there when I was 15.

[Dagless]

The majority of high school students are just plain stupid (not you, obviously, as you like Nintendo and Apple, which are labeled "kiddie" and "sucks" in most high schools). They go by what's popular rather than useful and make fun of people who are different. Am I ever glad I got out of there when I was 15.

I was never one to follow the crowd. seems like I'm doing it now with the DS, but then again I bought mine soon as it hit America. Alright I paid £170 (import tax, curse you!) for a DS with Mario 64 but hey I just had to 'touch it'.
At school people laughed at Nintendo. It didn't bother me or put me off Nintendo or whatever. I mean after all they were kids. so I was I but I was always that little bit mature than the rest of my school. I always refused to go out drinking with them or doing stupid things.

Basically those saying that I should have sold my 64 were those drinking, taking drugs, getting in trouble with the police, having abortions and are now with partners 10 years old than themselves... brilliant!

I love people who think they're mature when they're being childish.

Take Curt in my Animal Crossing village. "people these days always want the latest gadget. It may be out of style next year. True things stand the test of time." or something.

[Yvan256]

I'm also a little puzzled as to some of the reasons people state for wanting one to be honest:

- It plays lots of old games
- Not worried about graphics
- Not worried about HD
- Will be great to play newer versions of old titles.

Why not just stick with what you've got then? Oh apart from the controller obviously. Seems a little crazy also that people automatically state "I'll be buying one" when there is no real idea of pricing or games lineup and no-one knows how good it will be or whether the revolutionary controller will actually add anything worthwhile.

- The old games are just a bonus (so you don't need all your old Nintendo consoles plugged into some A-B-C-D switch).
- We care more about gaming than graphics. Even now, games on GameCube look better than those on the PS2 anyway, so I'm not worried about the Revolution. Better graphics doesn't equal better games.
- I don't have an HD television and don't plan on buying one anytime soon (still too complicated/expensive to get HD in Canada if you ask me).
- It's not "newer versions of old titles". You really don't understand Nintendo games if you think Metroid Prime is anything like the first Metroid game. Sure, the style is the same, the storyline is similar, but that's like saying a PowerMac Dual-Core G5 with Tiger is just a "newer version of a Mac Classic running MacOS 4" (or whatever).

As for the controller, all I know is that dual analog sticks are useless for playing first-person shooter-style games. Today, nothing can beat the keyboard+mouse combo. But that new controller seems to be the right way to do it, keyboard-less (and, more importantly, desk-less).

[Yvan256]

I'm going to get a black Revolution. Its been a tradition of mine to get Nintendo machines in black when possible (I have the purple cube because the black had sold out!). Plus it would match my 2005FPW and my Wharfedale speakers. and because black seems to hide better with room design. Maybe its just me but white things look bigger and stand out in a room.

Thanks, you just changed my decision (I wasn't sure between white or black, but seeing as I got a black GameCube, black DVD player, etc - it just makes sense).

My Nintendo DS, on the other hand, is blue. It's portable, it doesn't have to match anything. :cool:

[Yvan256]

Won't be camping out for a console, after all these companies are taking my money for they product. Why am I so pleased to give it to them and satisfy them by camping out. :p

Anyhow, when there is a bundle pack with some good game titles....I will bug one. :)

Please please please please please.... A bundle pack with a "Metroid Prime special edition" Revolution. :D

[Yvan256]

40/46 No, I'm not getting one.

First off I hate the controller and don't want to have to go out on buy/configure aftermarket controllers to enjoy playing the system. Second, the Gamecube was extremely disappointing (bad graphics, bad games, bad controller), and I'd rather stay away from Nintendo stuff from now on.

The bad graphics comment is only true when compared to the Xbox, and the other two comments are mostly subjective, but still...

Bad graphics? Yes, the Xbox has better graphics than the GameCube, but the PS2 is the one with bad graphics (a handful of titles aside, like the Gran Tourismo titles).

Bad games? I'll have to pass on that comment, except that I'm glad the GameCube doesn't have all the bad games that are available for the PS2 and Xbox. And it has Nintendo's exclusive titles (mainly Metroid and Zelda for me).

Bad controller? The GameCube controller is the best I've ever used. If anything, the bad controller was the first model for the Xbox, which they fixed.

[Yvan256]

Don't believe that for a minute. The only difference is that the other consoles are HD. Perhaps Nintendo will utilize the extra power they will have from not rendering to HD to create better realism and gameplay.

I'll take "better visuals in normal resolution" over "old-gen graphics but in hi-res" any day.

Besides, if the Revolution can just have the Xbox resolution with anti-aliasing, I'll be more than happy!

[silverback66]

So is wifi built in to the system or do we not know yet? The wifi works great on my DS, but on my old Xbox I used a Linksys thing and it used to drop out all the time and I'd literally have to unplug it and take it up to the router to go reconfigure it.

[Dagless]

I'm also a little puzzled as to some of the reasons people state for wanting one to be honest:

- It plays lots of old games
- Not worried about graphics
- Not worried about HD
- Will be great to play newer versions of old titles.

Why not just stick with what you've got then? Oh apart from the controller obviously. Seems a little crazy also that people automatically state "I'll be buying one" when there is no real idea of pricing or games lineup and no-one knows how good it will be or whether the revolutionary controller will actually add anything worthwhile.

- People like old games. Remember all the people who got in a huff because the 360 doesn't play their Xbox games? People love the old school, they love to play their old games. Show me a person who doesn't want to play the classics (pre-2000 Mario, Sonic, Tomb Raider, Tekken, Zelda, Metroid). I really doubt there is 1 person here, or maybe in the world, who would downright refuse to play an old game because its old. Gamers aren't that shallow.

-Why would I be worried about graphics? I was brought up playing non-photorealstic games and not even the 360 or PS3 are providing that. The only time I'm going to be interested in graphics is with photorealism. everything before it trying to look real is just a pathetic attempt and will be highly laughed at soon as the real CG graphics hit us.

-I have a HDTV. I have a monitor that can run at 720p, or 1080p with 15 pixels from the top and bottom cut off. Do I want to suddenly stop playing/running everything that is SD compatible on it?

-like what Yvan said... The games are different. most of us have played the old Mario, Metroid and Zelda games. Most of us played their first 3D counterparts which broke boundaries in gaming, I dont know about most people here but when Nintendo bring out games like that and then also say that gaming these days is stale... it really does make you wonder what new gameplay, new innovations these guys are bringing with the Revolution.

Personally I'd severely worry if you buy a console just for HD resolutions, or the graphics. even though we're hearing left right and centre that in SD resolutions; PS3, Rev and 360 ALL look the same.

Of course the controller isn't revolutionary though. You know, being able to actually swing your sword, fire arrows, play an FPS in its most natural way possible isn't revolutionary. no. dual controllers is the way forward. that clunky slow way.
We have no idea of pricing? We know for a fact it will be cheaper than $299 (or whatever the 360 costs), it could be as low as $99, or realistically $150. we know the games will be cheaper as they wont need HD textures or all these things that 360 fanboys claim bumps up production time and cost (even though their PC counterparts sell for a lot cheaper). We know there are definitely 6 or 7 Rev games (Praxis knows and has posted before) coming out, with a possible franchise game or 2 on launch.

I do stick with what I've got. I have my NES plugged into my monitor with no probs. but to be able to pack that away in a safe place along with my Gamecube and my N64 and just have a miniscule black box (probably not much bigger than my external HDD) tucked away in the corner, with the ability to play games that have been discontinued and games I never bought originally would be heaven sent.
Also I doubt the next gen games would be capable of running on current Nintendo hardware, or anything else really. so theres a reason to upgrade. plus for that increase in power, another DVD player, monitor output (play my games on my monitor with an immaculate image, w00t!), free internet play.

I'll make a list. i cant believe people would buy a 360 with..

-lack of backwards compatibility
-overpriced hardware
-pay for online play
-pay for extras
-pay for Arcade Live (effectively paid versions of Flash games)
-extreme size and heat and NOISE
-£50 ($88 that directly exchanges too) games.

[Dagless]

So is wifi built in to the system or do we not know yet? The wifi works great on my DS, but on my old Xbox I used a Linksys thing and it used to drop out all the time and I'd literally have to unplug it and take it up to the router to go reconfigure it.

it is built in yes, just like the DS. so no extra £60 wireless receiver is required.

[silverback66]

it is built in yes, just like the DS. so no extra &#163;60 wireless receiver is required.


Glad to hear that! I can't think of any reason to pass the Rev up now. Nintendo has a winner on their hands. Maybe it's time to start buying some stock....

So I was just looking at a pic of the Rev and I was wondering, is the top (or front) drive for Gamecube discs and the main one (glowing blue slot) for whatever format the Rev discs will be (presumably DVD)?

[GFLPraxis]

Glad to hear that! I can't think of any reason to pass the Rev up now. Nintendo has a winner on their hands. Maybe it's time to start buying some stock....

So I was just looking at a pic of the Rev and I was wondering, is the top (or front) drive for Gamecube discs and the main one (glowing blue slot) for whatever format the Rev discs will be (presumably DVD)?

Actually, the 360 is the only system MISSING wireless built in. DS has it. PSP has it. PS3 has it. Revolution has it.

Uh...the second part confuses me. What top drive? :confused: There's only one slot that I am aware of.

[DrNeroCF]

It's a dual drive, that one slot loading drive can take both disk types. Pretty slick, no?

Rev's got wifi out of the box, also, it's the only system that always comes with internal memory. :confused:

[rockthecasbah]

It's a dual drive, that one slot loading drive can take both disk types. Pretty slick, no?

Rev's got wifi out of the box, also, it's the only system that always comes with internal memory. :confused:
The slot loading is one of the confusing parts of the Rev., since like Gamecube disks are obviously smaller than the proprietary DVD disks they are using, how would the GC disks get loaded properly, like what side of the drive would you load it into? :confused:

[silverback66]

I just saw something above the slot loading drive that looked like it would open up. I just assumed it was where the gamecube discs went.

Take a look: http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/670/670523/img_3233329.html

See it right in the middle there on the left side. What is that? The wired controller ports are on top so that's why I thought that was the GC disc drive.

[rockthecasbah]

I just saw something above the slot loading drive that looked like it would open up. I just assumed it was where the gamecube discs went.

Take a look: http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/670/670523/img_3233329.html

See it right in the middle there on the left side. What is that? The wired controller ports are on top so that's why I thought that was the GC disc drive.
seems very likely, it looks liek the perfect size for GC disks.:)

[Dagless]

my web is going very slow so I cant check that IGN page, but if you mean the flap thats under the blue drive then I highly doubt that is where GC games will go. why would they have 2 disc drives? not that I wouldn't mind, and it does remind me of the DS+GBA ports on a NDS.

We don't know whats in there yet. my guess is that it fits the removable part of the memory. an SD slot. perhaps... now this is taking it probably too far... but so far there has been no announcement of GB/GBC/GBA downloads with the Rev. My guess... as far out as it is, is there will be a built in GB player hidden in that flap too.

and yep Nero, the Rev has 512mb of internal memory and an SD/MMC slot and USB ports for more space. SD/MMC cards being one of the cheapest card formats going. £30 for 1gb. rather than £60 *stares at Sonys rip off proprietary "sticks" *

[GFLPraxis]

I just saw something above the slot loading drive that looked like it would open up. I just assumed it was where the gamecube discs went.

Take a look: http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/670/670523/img_3233329.html

See it right in the middle there on the left side. What is that? The wired controller ports are on top so that's why I thought that was the GC disc drive.

IIRC that's where you plug in the SD cards and stuff, though I could be wrong.

[0s and 1s]

E3 can't come soon enough! This will be my third year going!

BTW, any release date?

[d_saum]

seems very likely, it looks liek the perfect size for GC disks.:)

nope, sorry... its been stated before that the slot drive in the front will handle the gamecube discs. It would be very hard and more expensive to cram another optical drive into that small rev case.

[silverback66]

Isn't that the SD slot right there next to the controller ports? Or is that just for gamecube memory cards?

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/670/670523/img_3233326.html

[2nyRiggz]

^^ i think those ports there are only for the gamecube....i think the REV will have a HD so no need for mem slots


Bless

[Dagless]

the 2 ports near the GC controller ports are for GC memory cards.
everything in that panel is for the GC. unless you can also plug Rev controllers into those ports to charge up the batteries?

so far all we can assume is that the side panel is the Cube part, the front panel is the Rev part. The drive can take Rev, GC and DVD/CD discs.

and ^^ the Rev has 512mb flash memory inside. theres an SD slot for more space, if need be.

[Poff]

nope, sorry... its been stated before that the slot drive in the front will handle the gamecube discs. It would be very hard and more expensive to cram another optical drive into that small rev case.

Yup. Works the same way as the original slot-loading G3 iMacs. (Or so I've been told.)

[GFLPraxis]

^^ i think those ports there are only for the gamecube....i think the REV will have a HD so no need for mem slots


Bless

Those ports are for the GameCube memory card. The Revolution has a 512 MB flash drive instead of a hard drive, and in case you need more space there will be SD card slots.

[HiRez]

Yeah, both Revolution and GameCube discs are read by the same drive unit (the slot-loader). I assume you just slide the GC disc into the approximate center of the unit and it has some special mechanism that centers up the disc so the spindle can grab it. Think about this, if you put two spring-loaded "arms" on each side of the drive slot (on the inside), as you put any size disc in the pressure from the spring-loaded arms would kind of force the disc towards the center as you push it in (if you insert it too far towards one edge, you'd be getting more pressure from one side and less resistance from the other, forcing it towards center).

[takao]

yeah the slot in drive which takes the small and larger discs is perhaps the only thing i'm really worried about because it might be the cause of a alot of problems.. bu on the other side they were confident about it so i guess they might have the drive already finished

that aside: i just checked innsbruck for a DS ... 8 stores ... all sold out .. just like the 7 stores in my home town .... arghhhhhh

[Prom1]

I love that guys comment about the GameCube controller is bad.... when the XBox (both) are the EXACT Same configuration. huh.

I prefer the PS2's controller above all others, and I look forward toward the PS3; just more game support for my age group. Revolutions Avante-Garde controller really worries me for games that wont use the motion sensor.

Every system that used a similar button layout died quickly. Think about it!

Remember the CollecoVision & IntelliVision both had similar configurations (disregard side buttons & numerical keybard on the bottom) A +B buttons beneath their joysticks which represent the same placement Nintendo is doing for the digital pad, is not what I would expect yet think is practical. Sure this is what Nintendo is trying to do, but I'm not looking forward to this systems new game practicality.

I'll wait to see what it offers and if I whitness it being underfun then I'll buy the PS3 brand new.

[gco212]

I love that guys comment about the GameCube controller is bad.... when the XBox (both) are the EXACT Same configuration. huh.

I prefer the PS2's controller above all others, and I look forward toward the PS3; just more game support for my age group. Revolutions Avante-Garde controller really worries me for games that wont use the motion sensor.

Every system that used a similar button layout died quickly. Think about it!

Remember the CollecoVision & IntelliVision both had similar configurations (disregard side buttons & numerical keybard on the bottom) A +B buttons beneath their joysticks which represent the same placement Nintendo is doing for the digital pad, is not what I would expect yet think is practical. Sure this is what Nintendo is trying to do, but I'm not looking forward to this systems new game practicality.

I'll wait to see what it offers and if I whitness it being underfun then I'll buy the PS3 brand new.

Huh? Xbox and Xbox 360 has 3 more buttons than gamecube controllers and nowhere near the same configurations. For that matter, Xbox and Xbox 360 have different configurations.

[GFLPraxis]

IMHO, the PS2 should swap the position of the joystick and the D-pad.

My favorite controller is the Wavebird, followed by the XBox 360. A combo of those controllers would be the greatest thing ever. I hate the XBox controller, the position of the black and white buttons annoy me somewhat (six face buttons just feels like too much), and the PS2 having four shoulders annoys me too, but the XBox 360's dual trigger dual shoulder feels just right.

I'd like the GameCube's A-B-X-Y on the 360's shoulder and trigger buttons, and I'd be happy :)


Huh? Xbox and Xbox 360 has 3 more buttons than gamecube controllers and nowhere near the same configurations. For that matter, Xbox and Xbox 360 have different configurations.

Yeah, that I'm aware of, the XBox has one button more than the GameCube, + you can click down the joysticks.

[Jovian9]

Here is some interesting speculation from an article:

http://www.nintendoplayers.com/rev/feature.php?featureID=2

"Source: Arstechnica

Arstechnica is a well-respected tech site. They are also very good with speculation; they speculated based on Microsoft’s statements and design decisions that the 3.2 GHz processor in the 360 was the same as the PS3, and were correct. The current speculation is on the Revolution processor (code-named Broadway). They first try to speculate based on IBM’s history and Nintendo’s design philosophy. IBM rarely starts processor designs from scratch anymore, thus they speculate that IBM would use an existing processor design and tailor it to Nintendo. The first candidate is the PowerPC 970, or the G5 processor in Macs. The PowerPC 970 is basically a stripped-down POWER4 (a supercomputer processor), with AltiVec tacked on, making it a workstation-class media processor. The 970FX is designed for mobile processors and has really good performance per watt. The alternative is the PowerPC Processing Element (PPE) core in the Xbox 360 and PS3. They state it is a near certainty that the Revolution will be based off one of these. The problem is that the design might not be best for the type of code Nintendo wants to run. He initially thought Nintendo would go with a PPE, then flipped-flopped to the 970FX, because of its good performance per watt; but then returned to PPE and had this confirmed by inside information that he does not want to give information on (Arstechnica’s track record, is, again, very good with inside info) that states that IBM sold the PPE design to all three console makers.

So Arstechnica states that by some logic and by inside info, Nintendo is using the same core as the Xbox 360 and the PS3 are using. Now they continue speculating. Their guess is that it will be two cores, because the PPE is designed to form part of a multi-core processor so a dual-PPE design is more natural for the processor than a single-PPE design. They also speculate that Broadway will have the largest L2 cache. By reducing the number of cores to one or two, reducing the clock speed, and loading up on L2 cache, they would have a lower thread count (developers need to program for one or two processors instead of 3 or 9) and better single-threaded performance and lower power usage.

It has been noted that both Microsoft and Sony’s processors suck for branchy integer codes that make up physics, AI, and control portions of the game (while they are very good for graphics-related stuff). Here we get back to the speculating on the processor design due to Nintendo’s philosophy. The Xbox 360 and PS3 are visually stunning but lacking in the areas Nintendo claims they will revolutionize, as Arstechnica puts it. A large L2 cache would give the processors integer and branchy code a large performance boost and make it easier to develop for (less threads with lots of cache for them). And since cache logic uses less power than execution logic, it would run cooler and take less power. They finally note that this tradeoff would give Broadway and the Revolution an edge over the PS3 and Xbox 360 processors for gameplay-enhancing AI, physics, and control code, and this edge could last for the life of the consoles.

So in summary, with their combination of insider information and speculation, Arstechnica believes that Nintendo will use the same processor design as the Xbox 360, but only one or two cores (most likely two) instead of 3, possibly at a lower clock speed, but with far more L2 cache than either of the other consoles, therefore running cooler, taking less power, and having an edge in AI and physics and other gameplay enhancing areas rather than graphics."

[Jovian9]

I've already mentioned I will be buying one of these, most likely in white or silver to match my iMac and PowerBook. The lack of high definition does not bother me. My wife and I were fairly early adopters of high definition.....bought a 53" HDTV back in eary 2002. We have had HD cable or satellite since maybe 2003 so we have become fairly "dependent" on high definition. Sure it would be "nice" for games to play in high definition.....but lets not forget, games still do not look like "real life". Therefore high definition games still look nothing like nor anywhere near as good as high definition television programming. So to me it is not necessary to have high definition games.
I'll probably buy a PS3 too, mainly for the blu-ray function of it. But I have to say, the controllers look awful. What am I supposed to do with that?.....put it behind my neck for comfort while I drive or sit in an airplane? The 360 controllers are nice, they definitely did a better job than with the original Xbox controllers. I LOVE the GameCube controllers.....best ever in my opinion.........the only problem really is the "z" button....sometimes it is difficult to get to.
Hopefully these rumors are right and this will release at a very low price point.....so I can spend about $500-$600 and get a lot of games with the system.

[cartoonfox]

55/63
not sure where the poll number went, i think this was the last place it was at...
and isn't the poll a bit wrong? looks like 55 people said no, when its actually only 8 or so...


anyway, i'll be buying on release day. can't wait.
the only decision is choosing which colour... ^__^


peace

[silverback66]

So do you think the N64 games will get a slight visual boost like Ocarina of Time on Gamecube? I'd love to play a prettier Goldeneye.

[rye9]

I will be getting one of these I am pretty sure. I always love Zelda and Super Smash Bros. but the controller seems a little... odd to me, and with only A and B buttons... Nintendo cant be THAT stupid. I am sure the controllers, more like remotes, will be awesome, I just cant figure out how. But, the video on nintendo.com looks like the controller can be used to aim guns, swing baseball bats, etc. Ill have to see when it comes out, I cant wait!

[rockthecasbah]

So do you think the N64 games will get a slight visual boost like Ocarina of Time on Gamecube? I'd love to play a prettier Goldeneye.
that's an interesting idea...as far as i know nothing officially has been announced in that manner, but it's an interesting thought...My guess is first party games like Zelda may get something, but Third party games, i doubt it.

[GFLPraxis]

that's an interesting idea...as far as i know nothing officially has been announced in that manner, but it's an interesting thought...My guess is first party games like Zelda may get something, but Third party games, i doubt it.

Actually, Nintendo said that they will improve the look of old games.

My guess is AA on N64 games (possibly GameCube too?) :D

[Dagless]

I think there will be an upscaling effect added. something new and beautiful though not a plain old Sai*2 or whatever its called.

I think we can assume the Rev will AA all 3D games. i mean that can be added without changing the original game coding so its all good!

Oh and another new 'rumour' is that the Revs controller will be backwards compatible to previous games. Donkey Konga, Windwaker and Smash Bros Melee have been mentioned. but if you notice in the Rev Teaser trailer it showed a girl making Mario jump by flicking the controller upwards.

[liquidh2o]

I'll be buying a revolution just to have access to the back catalog of games! :cool:

[OutThere]

Well, it looks like some people took offense to my comments, so I'll back them up.

Bad Games:

Subjective, yes, but on PS2, and, increasingly, XBox, the selection of games is so large that there is something for everyone. Gamecube has a distinct lack of good driving games and realistic shooters, which appeal to me and millions of other people. I personally can't stand Zelda, Mario or Sonic (:eek: Oh no I've said it now!), and much prefer semi-realistic or realistic games.

Bad Graphics:

I'm used to the XBox, which blows the Gamecube out of the water. On the subject of PS2 vs. Gamecube graphics, while the Gamecube is technologically superior, I think that PS2 games are engineered to more gracefully take advantage of the graphics power. From what I have seen, games on Gamecube are typically less graphically seamless. That's not to say that PS2 games always look better, but well done games on PS2 are very nice, while well done Gamecube games are less-so.

Bad Controller:

I have big hands. The PS2 controller is a little small for my hands and the Gamecube controller just feels unnatural. The differently sized and shaped buttons bother me. I don't like the XBox controller much either, but the original controller (the big one) was the best. It was something that really felt good in my hands, and I never felt as if my fingers were scrunching or pressing multiple buttons at once. The smaller controller is not very desirable, as it feels light-weight. I have high hopes for the PS3 controller...it looks like it will be very comfortable and still have the good button layout that has been the same through the entire PlayStation line.

Bottom line I like the sound of the PS3, I don't like the Revolution, and I'm yet undecided about whether or not I want to get a 360 (though I really like the original Xboxes).

On a side note, I do remember having to blow on the cartridges for my Sega Genesis....and a couple times with N64, but only with rented games.

[aspro]

56/64

Unless Sony woos me at the last minute I will be getting the revolution as my next-gen console. It seems to me that the innovation will be greatest in the nintendo camp.

[HiRez]

I do remember having to blow on the cartridges for my Sega Genesis.... :eek: :eek: :eek: Oh dear, TMI!!!

[2nyRiggz]

Well, it looks like some people took offense to my
side note, I do remember having to blow on the cartridges for my Sega Genesis....and a couple times with N64, but only with rented games.

NES and SNES as well. there all types of method to make a cartridge work. i had a NES that i had to but a cardboard in it to support the cartridge.


Bless

[GFLPraxis]

Here is some interesting speculation from an article:

http://www.nintendoplayers.com/rev/feature.php?featureID=2

"Source: Arstechnica

-snip-



Do you have any idea how weird that is for me to read that? :D

EDIT: If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at the author's name, then go to the staff page of the site and read the info really quick.

[Dagless]

Do you have any idea how weird that is for me to read that? :D

EDIT: If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at the author's name, then go to the staff page of the site and read the info really quick.

Yup! thats like the time I was in London and found some little magazine stall that sold a few foreign gaming mags, saw one of my games on the front cover and I was just :eek:

cheeky sods never even asked my permission.

[Jovian9]

Do you have any idea how weird that is for me to read that? :D

EDIT: If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at the author's name, then go to the staff page of the site and read the info really quick.

Just noticed the link in your sig to the same site.............so is that you?

[GFLPraxis]

Just noticed the link in your sig to the same site.............so is that you?

I'm one of the writers- the one you quoted :)

[Jovian9]

I'm one of the writers- the one you quoted :)

Well then......good article. It was a great read. Too many people get caught up in the "hype" surrounding the numbers of how powerful a system is and not how well games can be optimized for it. I think your article broke it down and explained it very well.

[ReanimationLP]

Actually, Nintendo said that they will improve the look of old games.

My guess is AA on N64 games (possibly GameCube too?) :D

You mean like this?

[GFLPraxis]

You mean like this?

Yep, just like modern PC emulators.
Heck, if the system itself actually has HD output (IIRC 480p and 720p and 1080i all use the same component cable, correct?), just not the power to run everything at those high settings and still look far above current gen, perhaps the older 64 games will even go to HD? Heh, that'd be cool.

I wonder if Nintendo's plans to allow you to connect to a computer monitor are still true (those are some very old quotes) and if so, will it go to the higher resolution of a monitor (generally 800x600 minimum)?

Well then......good article. It was a great read. Too many people get caught up in the "hype" surrounding the numbers of how powerful a system is and not how well games can be optimized for it. I think your article broke it down and explained it very well.

Thank you :)

[jhomayne]

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

I quite like the look of that. Would please the 3rd-party manufacturers.

[FadeToBlack]

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

I quite like the look of that. Would please the 3rd-party manufacturers.

Wow, that is pretty cool looking. I like it.

I will most likely be buying the Revolution sometime close to launch. After reading more about it and watching the controller demo video thing, I'm really impressed. I actually bought my first Nintendo console in a long time the other day, a GameCube. I traded my PS2 for it at GameStop. I got the Wavebird Wireless controller and Mario Sunshine and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Mario is excellent.

[dxp4acu]

57/65

I'm so excited, its hard to think sometimes!!

I haven't been this excited for video games... ever!

[jayscheuerle]

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

I quite like the look of that. Would please the 3rd-party manufacturers.

Looks a bit heavy, no?

[jdechko]

Looks a bit heavy, no?

Looks like it, but I highly doubt it for a few reasons. First, Nintendo has probably put a lot of work into making the Rev. controller pretty light. I mean, if it were heavy (like an Xbox controller) you wouldn't very well be able to swing it around for a long time. Also, much of the internals are already in the rev controller (gyroscope, rumble motor, transmitter, etc) so theres not going to be much to the shell controller, lessening the weight of the shell.

[jayscheuerle]

Looks like it, but I highly doubt it for a few reasons. First, Nintendo has probably put a lot of work into making the Rev. controller pretty light. I mean, if it were heavy (like an Xbox controller) you wouldn't very well be able to swing it around for a long time. Also, much of the internals are already in the rev controller (gyroscope, rumble motor, transmitter, etc) so theres not going to be much to the shell controller, lessening the weight of the shell.

Would you go for top-heavy then?

Looks like the bust of a one-eyed robot...

[GFLPraxis]

Just FYI for people who don't know (I think most of you do), that's an IGN mockup, not from Nintendo.

[Wai_TungLeung]

58/66 :D

I'm so glad to see so many people in this section of the forum are Nintendo fanatics and well as Apple fanatics! As a happy iMac user for 3 years I feel a sort of obligation to also support Nintendo of which I've had many happy years playing the SNES. I've always felt the two companies were quite similar, though it's just as interesting to see the one polar opposite thing they have. Apple is high price and while Nintendo is low price, plus debatably Apple tries to go very high specs while Nintendo goes for more lower specs. Interestingly aswell the DS can be seen as Nintendo's iPod, which has gone from strength to strength, so hopefully Revolution will be their iMac. One day I ought to set up a Apple and Nintendo fansite! :o

[greatdevourer]

Bad Games:
Gamecube has a distinct lack of good driving games and realistic shooters, which appeal to me and millions of other people. I personally can't stand Zelda, Mario or Sonic (:eek: Oh no I've said it now!), and much prefer semi-realistic or realistic games.

Bad Graphics:
I'm used to the XBox, which blows the Gamecube out of the water. On the subject of PS2 vs. Gamecube graphics, while the Gamecube is technologically superior, I think that PS2 games are engineered to more gracefully take advantage of the graphics power. From what I have seen, games on Gamecube are typically less graphically seamless. That's not to say that PS2 games always look better, but well done games on PS2 are very nice, while well done Gamecube games are less-so.

Bad Controller: Bad Games Counter:
While, yes, there are few driving games, there are many shooters (mostly multi-platform ones, such as TS), and as for realistic, there are many 3rd party ones. Nintendo aren't the only people who make games for it, you know :rolleyes:

Bad Graphics Counter:
The GameCube pwns the PS2, and every game does 480p (far as I remember). Also, "well done PS2 games beat well done GameCube ones"? Have you even seen Resident Evil 4 or Soul Caliber or many games where they've bothered to use the GC's power?

Bad Controller Counter:
Freak :p

[katchow]

Basically those saying that I should have sold my 64 were those drinking, taking drugs, getting in trouble with the police, having abortions and are now with partners 10 years old than themselves... brilliant!

I love people who think they're mature when they're being childish.


thats got be the silliest thing i've read today. jes' kiddin, but don't you think you're being a tad melodramatic? I mean we're just talking about a game console right?

[Freakk123]

59/67

I can't wait, I'll preorder one as soon as humanly possible. I was even considering going to Nintendo World in Time Square to pick one up at midnight on launchday, but I think I'd rather just get it in the mail... EB sent me my gamecube early and I got it three days before the official launch :D so I'm hoping for a similar outcome here.

OutThere, in response to your big hands thing, I have huge hands and can easily palm a basketball, and I find the GameCube controller to be the most comfortable, though I think the Xbox S controller is the best controller. The Xbox 360 controller is good too, but my hands feel kinda cramped on it.

-Freakk123

[rye9]

59/67

I can't wait, I'll preorder one as soon as humanly possible. I was even considering going to Nintendo World in Time Square to pick one up at midnight on launchday, but I think I'd rather just get it in the mail...-Freakk123

Not to burst your bubble, but Nintendo World is in Rockefeller Plaza. I would love to do that though bc I want a Revolution ASAP, however I doubt Nintendo would let you preorder one... it will probably be first come, first serve... but if we can preorder... ill make sure to be one of the first!:D

[~Shard~]

I'll be interested to see the Revolution, however if I buy any of the new consoles at all, it's going to be a PS3. I hardly play console games anymore though, so it's going to have to really knock my socks off for me to warrant picking one up. ;) But, if MGS4 is great, they do a FF7 remake as the rumors say, and if it is a solid Blu Ray player in general, I may just have to see... :cool:

[Otto Rehhagel]

60/68

This is the sleekest looking video game system ever :cool:. I am big on aesthetics and this is one beautiful piece of work. Of course I love the new features like the controller and the ability to play almost all of my favorite games (nes to gamecube). The revolution looks more promising than the Xbox 360 because of the price point and because it will be marketed to everyone.

[shake]

61/69

i am definitely getting one. probably not on launch day. i just got a gamecube for christmas! in a few years, the revolution will be $99 just like the gamecube is right now. sweet. ;)

nintendo is definitely on to something good. nintendo has ben making games since the beginning. they truly want to "revolutionize" the way games are played. they want the player to have a better "experience" when they are playing.

the xbox 360 has the same games as the original xbox. better graphics dont make for a better game! Micro$oft is just in it for the cash. let's face it, video games are a huge business, and microsft wants to cash in on some of that.

dont really care about playstation...

mario forever.

[Freakk123]

Not to burst your bubble, but Nintendo World is in Rockefeller Plaza. I would love to do that though bc I want a Revolution ASAP, however I doubt Nintendo would let you preorder one... it will probably be first come, first serve... but if we can preorder... ill make sure to be one of the first!:D

Ehh, Rockefeller Plaza, Time Square, 10 block radius, they're close enough. I basically consider anything in the 40's time square. I've been to the store before, I'm just an idiot when it comes to downtown manhattan (I live in riverdale).

Anyway, if we could preorder one I'd definitely get it there instead of eb.

[bokdol]

i am nuying and i saved all my gamecube games just waiting to put them in the revolution:)

[Batman2900]

I can't decide if I want to get it. On one hand I really like the games that are unique to nintendo... but I don't feel they really kept up with the games for the GC. I love the games, but it's hard to see a lot of cool stuff coming out for the other consoles over the holidays, and then looking to nintendo and seeing pretty much nothing. So I'm not sure yet, we'll see how they do I guess.

I bought a DS recently though and I love it immensly. It just frusterates me that I have to buy a ds to get the good nintendo games.

[BrianDavid0523]

I'll preorder as soon as we're able to do so.

I have a PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube in my livingroom, and the only system that gets any play is the Gamecube. I just enjoy games avail for Nintendo more.

I'm not one of the hard-core gamers who demand better graphics and HD. To my eyes the level of graphics on the Gamecube is just perfect.

[achie25]

61/70

I'll pass. I am a graphics whore. I am trying to hold out for the PS3 but I am closee to giving in and buying a 360. Maybe I'll just get both!

[Dagless]

Well so far that's an 87% theoretical market share for the Rev.

Also interestingly, a lot of major websites have had polls about this and there are a lot of thumbs up for the Rev. Infact (I can't remember the site) but one place had a poll about which consoles you're going to get with all combinations (Rev, PS3, Xbox, PS3 with Xbox, Rev with Xbox, Rev with PS3, All) and their numbers showed that the Rev was either the top single console choice or a very close 2nd with the PS3. But with combinations the winner was definitely the Rev. Nintendo will not go far wrong with this "2nd console" malarky at all.

Its all theory though. Not taking into account the world might end, aliens invade, one of the console producers suddenly become bankrupt... etc.

amazingly its still getting interest even with the advent of HDTV. perhaps its more evidence that HDTV has been pushed a little too early? but that's another story.