iPod Updater 2006-01-10 Available

[Lacero]

Just released. Check in Software Update.

iPod Updater 2006-01-10 delivers:
iPod Software 1.1 for iPod
iPod Software 1.1 for iPod nano
iPod Software 1.2.1 for iPod with color display
iPod Software 1.4.1 for iPod mini
iPod Software 3.1.1 for iPod with Click Wheel
For all other iPod models, iPod Updater 2006-01-10 contains the same software versions as iPod Updater 2005-11-17.

Important: After downloading the iPod Updater software, connect your iPod to your computer and launch the iPod Updater application. If iPod Updater determines that your iPod needs to be updated, click the Update button to install the latest software on your iPod.

Features of iPod Software 1.1 for iPod, and iPod Software 1.1 for iPod nano:

Support for the iPod Radio Remote
Bug fixes
Changes to iPod Software 1.2.1 for iPod with color display, iPod Software 1.4.1 for iPod mini, and iPod Software 3.1.1 for iPod with Click Wheel:

Bug fixes

[clayj]

Busy, busy day for Apple today.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Another update...? :confused:

And even an update for my mini...? :)

[2nyRiggz]

apple trying to get everything out today..cool..even though i havent updated my ipods since my windows machine went down.

Anybody know if i can update em on the mac...im thinking no


Bless

[Lacero]

I'm guessing some of the bug fixes for the 5G iPod includes the problem of browsing by artist and only seeing songs that have fields for album filled in, and not songs with the album field left blank. I haven't updated any of my iPods to be sure of it.

Bug fixes for the mini is strange. My has been working perfectly. Hope it doesn't screw up my GoPod alteration.

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[~Shard~]

What, nothing for my 3G? :confused: :p ;)

[mad jew]

I like the interface. :)

[hob]

Hurrah!

A perfect end to a perfect MacWorld Day! Should be a recognised international holiday for mac geeks...

I'm so glad Apple released a remote. It was the best thing about my old 3G iPod!

[emulator]

What, nothing for my 3G? :confused: :p ;)
I don't even remember the last time mine was updated. And for sure that WAS the last time Apple thought about them.

[Nermal]

This half-fixed the smart playlist bug on my G4. For example, the "Recently Played" playlist now dynamically updates without me needing to synch with iTunes - but it puts the songs in the wrong place!

[iDM]

I am hoping this makes my click and selections a little bit snappier on my 5th gen

[memphismac]

When I connect my Windows-formatted PC to my iMac, it opens up the updater, but it won't let me update it.
And then it doesn't show up in iTunes.

I'm assuming I'll need to update the iPod software via my Windows PC at work???

[iDM]

Well i got the answer to the question, "Will this update make my ipod snappier as opposed to operating with molasses swirling inside?"

The answer was no.

[D3LM3L]

My 5G iPod still works horribly with the Apple Remote- you can only pause, play, choose a next/previous song. No menu browsing whatsoever. What a waste of $30!

[Laser47]

Wow the update for the 4G ipod is from 3.1 to 3.1.1!!

[dr_lha]

The old ipod updater was a Mac PEF executable in a directory called "MacOSClassic". The new one is a Mach-O Universal Binary, with the binary file being called "iPod Updater Extreme"!!!

[dr_lha]

... and I can report it worked great with my 4G iPod.

[Chundles]

When I connect my Windows-formatted PC to my iMac, it opens up the updater, but it won't let me update it.
And then it doesn't show up in iTunes.

I'm assuming I'll need to update the iPod software via my Windows PC at work???

You can't update a Windows formatted iPod with a Mac, you have to use the OS it's formatted to.

So yes, you'll have to use your work machine.

[mad jew]

You can't update a Windows formatted iPod with a Mac, you have to use the OS it's formatted to.


You can even see that in my screen shot. :p

[~Shard~]

I don't even remember the last time mine was updated. And for sure that WAS the last time Apple thought about them.

Ah well, I'm not complaining, I wouldn't expect Apple to do much with an "old" iPod like mine anyway. ;)

[Eidorian]

This half-fixed the smart playlist bug on my G4. For example, the "Recently Played" playlist now dynamically updates without me needing to synch with iTunes - but it puts the songs in the wrong place!It updated on your iPod without having to use iTunes? :eek:

I'm going to have to check that out on my Mini now.

[rlreif]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music

[Nermal]

It updated on your iPod without having to use iTunes? :eek:

It used to work when I first got the iPod (version 3.0, I think) but the 3.1 update broke it.

[LGRW3919]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music


haha, if it ain't broke don't fix it. i usually wait to see the outcome. try it next time and don't blame us.

[veedubdrew]

My 5G 30GB iPod is noticeably more responsive after this update.

-Drew

[puckhead193]

Much faster, but still....some of my photo albums i select do NOT transfer..... i think i'm going to go insane... :mad: :mad: :mad:

[kenzbud]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music

I delete my old iPod updates as new ones come out but I'm sure somebody on here has an older iPod update so you could revert back to the software version you had before. Or better yet... make a trip down to the apple store :)

[PharmD]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music

I noticed this too and was wondering if it was just unique to my iPod since it is from the days when Power Adapters were included. Guess not.

[Paul Grayson]

Does it resolve the photo display problem with the 5G model where images sometimes won't display?

I've also had an issue with it not correctly updating the play count on resynching, so my smart playlist of un-played tracks doesn't get correctly updated.

[kainjow]

The old ipod updater was a Mac PEF executable in a directory called "MacOSClassic". The new one is a Mach-O Universal Binary, with the binary file being called "iPod Updater Extreme"!!!
Nice find!

Also found a silly thing possibly left over from the developers? In the Resources folder is a Read Me.rtf :p:
Mac OS 9 CarbonUSB.h, CarbonUSB.cpp, macos9/CarbonUSB_macos9.cpp

Mac OS X CarbonUSB.h, macosx/CarbonUSB_osx.cpp, macosx/CarbonUSB_FSCalls.cpp

The macosx/CarbonUSB_MacOSX.c file is outdated–do not use it.

CarbonUSB_DebugLog.cpp is required for both 9 and X if DEBUG_CARBONUSB is set to 1

Also found out some secret preferences in Preferences.nib (see attachment). But they are disabled when you launch the app. Windows formatting on the Mac?? Multiple iPod support! w00t!! :D

See the other attachment "Hey, we gonna quit now, OK?" :)

[iDM]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music

Where exactly does it say on this site that its members are required to post every single possible circumstance or outcome for the update? If you want to blame someone blame Apple. I hope the silence in your car is deafening.

[Seasought]

I was hoping to see something about that stuttering problem I occasionally get when using iTunes. :(

[thenightfly42]

This old note at Apple has been updated: Smart Playlists stop updating dynamically on iPod (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301910) now reads
If you have an iPod with a Click Wheel, Smart Playlists may stop updating dynamically after you update your iPod with iPod Updater 2005-06-26 or later. For example, if you rate a song on your iPod, the rating appears, but that same song won't appear in a Smart Playlist based on the same rating on your iPod. But this can happen with a Smart Playlist based on any criteria.

Use the iPod Updater 2006-01-10 or later to resolve this.

Note: This issue does not affect iPod nano or Fifth Generation iPod.

[memphismac]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....

Same here. Fortunately there are a few people in the office with iPods...

[DSL Steve]

You can't update a Windows formatted iPod with a Mac, you have to use the OS it's formatted to.

So yes, you'll have to use your work machine.


I formatted a Windows format iPod (Video) to Mac format with a new High Res PowerBook running 10.4.3. The PB was even ready to sync-up the iPod with iTunes.


You cannot use an iPod whose disk is configured for Macintosh on a Windows-compatible computer. However...While a Windows formatted iPod may work on a Mac, Apple supports this configuration only with iPod shuffle.


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61672

[BigDawgES]

This old note at Apple has been updated: Smart Playlists stop updating dynamically on iPod (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301910) now reads

Glory be!

I had to downgrade my iPod Photo's software to one released spring of 05 in order to keep my magical network of smart playlists functioning on the fly. It took them a good long while, but I'm psyched that it's fixed!

[MacMyDay]

Where exactly does it say on this site that its members are required to post every single possible circumstance or outcome for the update? If you want to blame someone blame Apple. I hope the silence in your car is deafening.

I didn't get the impression that he was complaining at anyone on this site. The asshole comment was aimed at Apple.

Anyway, I've got the same problem. Hmm, tough call

[kdoub1e]

This update broke the backlight on my nano via holding the menu button down. Now when i hold the menu button down it returns to the main menu rather than enabling the backlight. Anyone else have this issue?

[Marky_Mark]

Where exactly does it say on this site that its members are required to post every single possible circumstance or outcome for the update? If you want to blame someone blame Apple. I hope the silence in your car is deafening.

iDM, go rant at someone else - having to plug your iPod into the wall when Apple are too tight to ship the majority of 'pods with chargers is a pretty fundamental flaw in the game, don't you think? I think you owe the man an apology.

[Sunrunner]

This update broke the backlight on my nano via holding the menu button down. Now when i hold the menu button down it returns to the main menu rather than enabling the backlight. Anyone else have this issue?

Sounds like the update did some sort of a firmware rewrite... interesting

[dead_smed]

does anyone know if this stops ipods working with the xbox 360? M$ said that apple could release and update that could stop them talking to each other :(

[macros]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music

Try plugging you iPod using firewire cable to your mac (or Pc)
It usualy cannot distinguish between adapter and computer.
Its stupid, init.

[Chundles]

I formatted a Windows format iPod (Video) to Mac format with a new High Res PowerBook running 10.4.3. The PB was even ready to sync-up the iPod with iTunes.



http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61672

I think you misunderstood. I didn't say you couldn't re-format a Windows iPod on a Mac, that's really easy to do. You can't update a Windows iPod's firmware using a Mac and maintain the Windows formatting and your songs. You have to do a full restore which will format your iPod to Mac and erase all your songs.

A Windows iPod will work just fine on a Mac until Apple releases an update - then you need to find a PC.

Updating an iPod is the term used to describe installing new firmware when Apple releases it. Putting songs etc. onto an iPod is called "Syncing" whether it's automatically done or manually done.

[Chundles]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music

What type of iPod do you have? I have one of the 2G minis - the first iPod (except for the shuffle) to not come with a wall adapter. When I updated the firmware it did not ask me to plug into a wall charger but to just leave the iPod plugged into the computer whilst it restarted.

I was under the impression that none of the iPods that ship without a power adapter require one for firmware updates? So what type do you have?

[juniormaj]

This update broke the backlight on my nano via holding the menu button down. Now when i hold the menu button down it returns to the main menu rather than enabling the backlight. Anyone else have this issue?

Yes, I noticed that too.

I have a 5th Gen 60GB.

[Nermal]

This update broke the backlight on my nano via holding the menu button down. Now when i hold the menu button down it returns to the main menu rather than enabling the backlight. Anyone else have this issue?

Still works on my G4.

[Lacero]

The minis now have horizontal scrolling menus like the nanos when displaying long names. Nice little feature!

:D
Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[Chundles]

The minis now have horizontal scrolling menus like the nanos when displaying long names. Nice little feature!

:D
Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Mine doesn't. I only see that in the Podcasts section, are you getting scrolling in other menus too Lacero?

[Bob Knob]

I had never noticed how many old iPod updates I had on my computer and how much drive space they were taking up. I was below 1GB free on my PowerBook and by tossing all but this one and the previous one (just in case) I suddenly have a little more breathing room.

[Daveway]

I'm guessing some of the bug fixes for the 5G iPod includes the problem of browsing by artist and only seeing songs that have fields for album filled in, and not songs with the album field left blank. I haven't updated any of my iPods to be sure of it.

I can confirm that this issue has NOT been resolved.:mad: :mad:

Maybe we haven't b*tched enough?

[rlreif]

haha, if it ain't broke don't fix it. i usually wait to see the outcome. try it next time and don't blame us.
i dont blame you i blame apple
the wall charger that came with the click wheel ipods only works with the firewire cords...
since the usb cords work for all ipods including my nano... but not the firewire, i ditched the firewire cord to have one less to carry around... i never use the wall charger... now im screwed... they could have issued a warning

im pissed

[rlreif]

I delete my old iPod updates as new ones come out but I'm sure somebody on here has an older iPod update so you could revert back to the software version you had before. Or better yet... make a trip down to the apple store :)

i tried old updates..
i cant even mount an ipod to use an old updater... it wont let me do anything until i plug it into a wall charger

a trip down to the apple store means crossing the border and driving 3 hours down to seattle

the registered retailers in vancouver are less than helpful in my experience

[rlreif]

Where exactly does it say on this site that its members are required to post every single possible circumstance or outcome for the update? If you want to blame someone blame Apple. I hope the silence in your car is deafening.

where exactly in my post did i blame this site or anybody on it?
APPLE could have posted some warning... no other ipod updater EVER has required this

[rlreif]

What type of iPod do you have? I have one of the 2G minis - the first iPod (except for the shuffle) to not come with a wall adapter. When I updated the firmware it did not ask me to plug into a wall charger but to just leave the iPod plugged into the computer whilst it restarted.

I was under the impression that none of the iPods that ship without a power adapter require one for firmware updates? So what type do you have?

click wheel... 4th gen i guess
i have the wall charger... found it in a desk drawer... just dont have the firewire cord... think its plugged into the music server at the cabin for recharging...
i will get it fixed... just sucks to not have it for a road trip

[Chundles]

All the other ones I've done on my old 3G required the wall charger, I did at least 2 updates for my mate's 4G and they needed the charger too.

So, you're upset at Apple for making them use something they gave to you?

[2nyRiggz]

just updated mines and i didnt use the wall charger i just pluged it back into the dock which is connected to my mac by firewire.

Notice my nano dont hang when moving through different menus...good


Bless

[rlreif]

All the other ones I've done on my old 3G required the wall charger, I did at least 2 updates for my mate's 4G and they needed the charger too.

So, you're upset at Apple for making them use something they gave to you?

well, yeah
ive never had to use the charger before...
what if you DL'd an os x update and it made you insert the original cd that came with your mac to finish the update and in the meantime your system was locked...

would you have the disk within easy reach?

what if you were on a business trip?

[diddy]

This update broke the backlight on my nano via holding the menu button down. Now when i hold the menu button down it returns to the main menu rather than enabling the backlight. Anyone else have this issue?

Same here. Crap, I like and use that feature. :mad: :confused:

[greg555]

Is it documented somewhere what bugs in the Mini are fixed by this update?

Does it break any old features?

Thanks - Greg

[Chundles]

Is it documented somewhere what bugs in the Mini are fixed by this update?

Does it break any old features?

Thanks - Greg

I haven't noticed any difference on mine.

Lacero mentioned scrolling titles for long song names but I only get that in the Podcasts menu and that was there before. No reply to my query yet so I don't know what the story is on that front.

[greg555]

Thanks Chundles.

I read through a 7 page thread on iLounge forums and there was no mention of the mini fixes/changes.

Did the fix change the behavior of using the center button to turn on the backlight? Or is that just other models?

Thanks - Greg

[Chundles]

Thanks Chundles.

I read through a 7 page thread on iLounge forums and there was no mention of the mini fixes/changes.

Did the fix change the behavior of using the center button to turn on the backlight?

Thanks - Greg

Um, I'm not really sure. I have always had my backlight set to a 10 second time-out so it lights up no matter what button I hit.

[MacMyDay]

I was advised to Bears Driving Blog (http://www.bearsdriving.com/blog/archives/2005/10/your_ipod_tip_o.html) to try and resolve the situation. I can't get it to work, but maybe another member can?

All the same, it's there for anyone

[Loge]

It's a shame they still haven't added playlist folders. I'm don't see why it was added to iTunes if they weren't going to let you browse the same on the iPod. :(

[Lacero]

Mine doesn't. I only see that in the Podcasts section, are you getting scrolling in other menus too Lacero?
I get scrolling only in Playlists and Podcasts, but none in the rest, like Artists, Albums, Songs, etc.

btw, the mini update goes from 1.4 to 1.4.1

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

[Chundles]

I get scrolling only in Playlists and Podcasts, but none in the rest, like Artists, Albums, Songs, etc.

btw, the mini update goes from 1.4 to 1.4.1

Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)

Ah so, no worries. I actually don't have a playlist that's long enough to scroll.....hah.

[bagofbeef]

I've got the 4th Gen 60GB. This update didn't do much for me. Come on, man. Where the heck are the playlist folders? Where's the lyric support?

harumph.

[drlunanerd]

This has completely ****ed my 60GB iPod 5G. All songs skip, frequent audio distortion and will not play past around 10 seconds in to a track. Have had 4 lock-ups on the way home listening to it too.

Seems there's a major problem with 1.1 on the 5G 60GB models - check out Apple Discussions and iLounge.

If a downgrade doesn't fix it it's going back to Apple.

[brepublican]

Yeah so about this update, idk what happened but when I reset after the update, my iPod stopped showing any of my music, even though it was on the iPod (it was showing it had like ~15GB on it, ~3GB free space...

Thing is, right before I updated, I did a spotlight search for a song I didnt have on my PB and copied it off the iPod, among other things... I dunno if it was my tinkering or the update, but I ended up having to restore my iPod (thanks for nothing Harlem World with your good for nothing "I Really Like it" song. Well I hate it!)

[CubaTBird]

this update fixes many things.. specifically with rating songs and what not.. before i would rate songs on my ipod and on my top rated playlist they would not show up until i plugged my ipod into itunes.. now when i rate a song say five stars, it shows up in my top rated playlist on my ipod.:)

[steve_hill4]

What type of iPod do you have? I have one of the 2G minis - the first iPod (except for the shuffle) to not come with a wall adapter. When I updated the firmware it did not ask me to plug into a wall charger but to just leave the iPod plugged into the computer whilst it restarted.

I was under the impression that none of the iPods that ship without a power adapter require one for firmware updates? So what type do you have?
You're right, but the exception is the Mini Rev. A as updater doesn't distinguish between the Rev. A that came with a charger and Rev. B that didn't for the purposes of plugging into the wall. I'm not sure whether the colour screen models also allow it to remain connected, (I say this because I can't recall seeing a color version of the plug into mains picture, but it could be in black anyway).

Since we sell these at work, and we get dozens every week bringing back "faulty" iPods that merely need updating, I am fairly used to the process now, even if I can't recall the exact models little differences in updating sometimes.

[steve_hill4]

where exactly in my post did i blame this site or anybody on it?
APPLE could have posted some warning... no other ipod updater EVER has required this
Wrong. I have ran iPod updaters on most iPods manufactured in the last 18-24 months and the older ones that shipped with power adapters always asked to plug into the wall. If you told us which exact model and revision you have, I could probably tell you straight off whether it will require plugging into the mains. Generally, the reason a lot of the ones that shipped with power adapters still require this is because they haven't had software updates recently, and if so, they are only bug fixes as Apple have better things to waste their time on. If you sold your charger or lost it and then ran updater, I guess it's mainly your fault. Not everybody knows about this step with older iPods, but it's been there pretty much since day one and since you said it's never required it before, you have run one in the past, just probably forgotten about this step.

[macros]

Wrong. I have ran iPod updaters on most iPods manufactured in the last 18-24 months and the older ones that shipped with power adapters always asked to plug into the wall. If you told us which exact model and revision you have, I could probably tell you straight off whether it will require plugging into the mains. Generally, the reason a lot of the ones that shipped with power adapters still require this is because they haven't had software updates recently, and if so, they are only bug fixes as Apple have better things to waste their time on. If you sold your charger or lost it and then ran updater, I guess it's mainly your fault. Not everybody knows about this step with older iPods, but it's been there pretty much since day one and since you said it's never required it before, you have run one in the past, just probably forgotten about this step.

This is the first time that my 4g ipod didnt asked me to connect the charger after update. Every single update before that it did. So apple must have changed something significant.

btw where can I find those hidden options that someone have posted?

[GregA]

I think I have a 4G iPod (colour screen, released 11 months ago, no video)?

I don't regularly watch photos on my iPod, but yesterday I did, and I noticed a whole heap of transitions between the photos that I don't think were there before (wipes, pushes, etc). Was that there before?

BTW - why can't we watch iPhoto "Slideshows" on the iPod? How come all we can do is watch an album? It's a pain.

[MusicPirate]

Hey everyone!

I updated with the 01-10-2006 ipod updater, everything is OK except one thing, the backlight shortucut :eek:

I Used to be able to hold down the menu button for 2seconds and the backlight would turn on manually, and alternativly i would hold it down for 2 seconds again to turn it off manually (so no need to have backlight timer on in settings).

But NOW it doesn't work :mad: Any Idea's on how to get it to work?


Thanks in advance!


jason

[frome]

Same here. Crap, I like and use that feature. :mad: :confused:

Ive got the same problem :confused: :( .

[2much]

Anyone else using the _show_voltage "hack" to get a numeric display of battery life?

I've got a 2G Mini & I only used it for about a week before the tiny battery icon started getting to me so I switched to the numeric display (which was still somewhat erratic - sometimes I would actually see it increase a small amount rather than decrease - but at least I knew fairly reliably that when it was down around 200 it was time to charge). Updated yesterday & now it's gone. :( Did a bit of Googling & I believe this has happened to other types of iPods after previous updates...

OTOH, apart from missing _show_voltage, it certainly hasn't done anything bad from what I can tell after several hours of use. In fact I almost swear it actually sounds a little better - although maybe that's just the "everything feels snappier now after an OSX update" placebo effect :rolleyes:

[ajax8727]

Like many others on this thread, once I installed the 1.1 update on my 5G iPod Video, holding the MENU key brings you back to the home screen. Has anyone found a setting that allows you to choose between backlight/menu screen? :)

[zooniverse]

Like many others on this thread, once I installed the 1.1 update on my 5G iPod Video, holding the MENU key brings you back to the home screen. Has anyone found a setting that allows you to choose between backlight/menu screen? :)

sounds more useful then. Its a bit pointless having no backlight on a colour screen cause you can't see it!

[TrickyFish]

I have a 5G white ipod on which I have just run this update - went smoothly until my ipod showed the apple symbol after updating then all I got was a white screen!
I have repeatedly reset and hard reset, restarted my iac G5 computer and reloaded updater but nothing. My computer won't recognise the ipod so I have no idea what to do next - anyone got any ideas? I can't turn the ipod off now - it just shows a white screen all the time.
I've only had this ipod since Christmas and this is the first updater I've run on it. I've alreadt had my husbband's nano quit after less that 24 hours - I can't take much more!
HELP!!!!

[advocate]

my ipod worked fine...
then i ran the update, and it says to finish the update i have to plug it into the wall charger....
i dont have a wall charger

now my ipod that worked just fine without a stupid update is worthless until i find a wall charger... it wont let me reset it, or do anything until it is connected with a wall charger...

thanks for the warning
im about to do a 6 hour roadtrip tomorrow without music
Yeah, I was in a similar situation the last time I updated the firmware on my iPod mini. I wasn't about to fetch my wall charger from work so I came up with a small trick. If you cover up the middle two lines inside the USB plug on the cable, the iPod will think that your computer is a wall charger. (The two outside lines are power, and the two inside lines are data.) I just cut a small piece of electrician's tape and used a pair of tweezers to put it in place. If you try this, be careful not to damage the plug, and use tape that won't fall off or leave adhesive behind.

[devman]

This has completely ****ed my 60GB iPod 5G. All songs skip, frequent audio distortion and will not play past around 10 seconds in to a track. Have had 4 lock-ups on the way home listening to it too.

Seems there's a major problem with 1.1 on the 5G 60GB models - check out Apple Discussions and iLounge.

If a downgrade doesn't fix it it's going back to Apple.

FWIW I have a 60GB iPod 5G and I've had no such problems since the update.

[mflat5]

All updated fine on my 30G Photo, but I had problems updating it "via iTunes and the auto-update prompt that it gave me when I downloaded it and after I plugged the device on my Mac. Gave me an error message like "Cannot disconnect iPod" or something like that.

I closed iTunes and opened the iPod updater separately and all updated and is fine.

Noticed that my interface is snappier and I get less of the Apple reboot. Songs load quicker, menus move quicker, but NO new features like Screen Lock :(

O well.. take what I can get. At least Apple released an update for more than the Video or Shuffle this time around.

[Tupring]

I just ran the update and now to complete the update process I have to plug my iPod into a wall outlet and I don't have the charger. Now I have to go buy one or I can't use my iPod anymore?!:mad: :confused:

[Tupring]

I didn't get the impression that he was complaining at anyone on this site. The asshole comment was aimed at Apple.

Anyway, I've got the same problem. Hmm, tough callI posted a few hours ago about the same thing happening to me too. I solved the problem by making a trip to Target and plugging my iPod in at the store in the iPod isle where the demos are set up. There was actually a couple of chargers already plugged in and a dock too. All is fine now, I'm happy.

[drlunanerd]

FWIW I have a 60GB iPod 5G and I've had no such problems since the update.

You're lucky, but I'm surprised you've not noticed *any* problems? The compaints from 5G 60GB owners seem to be widespread - but I'm curious as to why very few people on Macrumors are commenting?

I've tried wiping my 5G 60GB a couple of times and re-applying the update but the bugs don't go away. Have had to downgrade to 1.0 and spend 2 hours uploading all my music again.

[shadowscotland]

I just got my first ipod (a second hand G4 20GB) and connected it for the first time and was meet with a update notice (cool - and a only a few days old) so downloaded and updated and got the charger icon and all functionality gone :(
I've got a charger (is was in the box) but thought that my 'new' ipod was already completely decharged due to poor battery life.
Checked out google with 'ipod update charger' and selected this forum and read the thread.
So thanks for the info on this icon being the normal responce to an update, chears all

[devman]

You're lucky, but I'm surprised you've not noticed *any* problems? The compaints from 5G 60GB owners seem to be widespread - but I'm curious as to why very few people on Macrumors are commenting?

Maybe you should get Oliver Stone to make a movie about this... :rolleyes:

But seriously, my iPod is working fine since the update. I don't have songs stop only 10 seconds in and I don't get distorted audio.

If not many people here are commenting on this it probably means not many are having such problems. Looking at other current threads on this site, or older threads, should show you that people will (and do) complain in droves here if they don't like something or if something doesn't work right.

[Jetson]

It seems to me that people HAVE been complaining in droves about this update.

Many people do not like to complain. If they see that someone else has already posted the problem they experienced, they search this forum for some helpful person to post a solution.

Unfortunately this site seems to have a lot of fanboys that ridicule people who point out problems with Apple, rather than try to actually address the point.

I have a 4th generation iPod and fortunately for me this update seems to work fine. But to someone that just spent $400 + for a video iPod and this update totally screws up their machine, this is a nightmare. You aren't doing anyone any favors by minimizing someone else's problems.

[Reckless]

My 5g iPod has been updated and it's also working fine. Seems a little strange to me that the update is messing up some machines and not others. I used the windows update as my library is on my main machine which is a PC. I don't suppose it's anything to do with whether the update was done on mac as opposed to PC is it?

I miss the backlight function on the menu button though.

[nik.gibson]

I have a 20Mb photo iPod, after running the iTunes update, when I connected my iPod and ran the iPod updater it only gave the options to reset my iPod not update it. The updater said it could only update Mac formatted iPods. As mine is Windows formatted no update was run and iTunes no longer recognises my iPod. Has anyone any ideas?

[GregA]

I have a 20Mb photo iPod, after running the iTunes update, when I connected my iPod and ran the iPod updater it only gave the options to reset my iPod not update it. The updater said it could only update Mac formatted iPods. As mine is Windows formatted no update was run and iTunes no longer recognises my iPod. Has anyone any ideas?I'm not sure why iTunes wouldn't recognise your iPod anymore. I did the same, after which I downloaded the Windows iPod update and ran that and all is well.

I suggest you run the Windows update. If things don't work - copy all your iPod-harddisk data to your machine, restore the whole iPod in Windows (I assume you need to use it with both Windows and Mac!). Then copy your harddisk data back and resync your iPod to your Mac to reload the songs etc.

[devman]

It seems to me that people HAVE been complaining in droves about this update.

Many people do not like to complain. If they see that someone else has already posted the problem they experienced, they search this forum for some helpful person to post a solution.

Unfortunately this site seems to have a lot of fanboys that ridicule people who point out problems with Apple, rather than try to actually address the point.

I have a 4th generation iPod and fortunately for me this update seems to work fine. But to someone that just spent $400 + for a video iPod and this update totally screws up their machine, this is a nightmare. You aren't doing anyone any favors by minimizing someone else's problems.

I did no such thing.

Now, if someone replies with incredulity to my post (where I said my iPod is working fine) and then follows up with innuendo that implies everywhere else but MR has these iPod problems... well, what do you expect?

All my reply said was that I don't believe MR threads are hiding an iPod issue - because they never do. You only need to look at some of the lunacy going on in the Macbook Pro and Intel iMac threads to see that MR is far from impervious to Apple attacks (and from your so-called "fanboys").

And, my iPod still works fine. I don't agree that I'm fortunate or lucky. But you can disagree.

[drlunanerd]

Maybe you should get Oliver Stone to make a movie about this... :rolleyes:

But seriously, my iPod is working fine since the update. I don't have songs stop only 10 seconds in and I don't get distorted audio.

If not many people here are commenting on this it probably means not many are having such problems. Looking at other current threads on this site, or older threads, should show you that people will (and do) complain in droves here if they don't like something or if something doesn't work right.

Ha ha :) I'll give his agent a call.

There is a problem with this update and the 5G 60GB model. It's something to do with access of the SDRAM cache and explains why the issue doesn't appear to affect the 30GB model, as that has a different cache design. There are widespread problems reported with playing video, but not as many people seem to be having/reporting the audio issues that I am.

There'll be another update along soon I expect/hope.

[devman]

Ha ha :) I'll give his agent a call.

There is a problem with this update and the 5G 60GB model. It's something to do with access of the SDRAM cache and explains why the issue doesn't appear to affect the 30GB model, as that has a different cache design. There are widespread problems reported with playing video, but not as many people seem to be having/reporting the audio issues that I am.

There'll be another update along soon I expect/hope.

Interesting. Well, I definitely don't have any audio issues. I've not noticed anything with video either, but I've not used the video feature as much since the update. Is there something specific I can test to see for you?

[ajax8727]

sounds more useful then. Its a bit pointless having no backlight on a colour screen cause you can't see it!

My concern is the battery life, I have the backlight off when it is portable, and on always in my car. The MENU was just easier, going through the menu to get to it is good enough as well, I was just wondering if anyone found another shortcut to make the MENU backlight toggle again :)

The update made my 5G a lot faster scrolling through menus and it does not crash if you switch songs fast anymore.

[devman]

Well, FWIW the kids have been playing music videos all afternoon on my 5G iPod 60GB (connected to tv via universal dock) and it's been flawless.

[markdaunt]

Same prob's here, long video's (tv show's / movies) play for 30 seconds then pause and start playing with no sound. Short vid's eg music ok

[devman]

Ok, I tried long video files as well. They play with no problems.

[markdaunt]

What program do u use to encode video? I know that QT pro and iTunes convert work ok, I use iSquint and other progs, I also know that vid's downloaded from the Music store work ok.

[devman]

What program do u use to encode video? I know that QT pro and iTunes convert work ok, I use iSquint and other progs, I also know that vid's downloaded from the Music store work ok.

It varies, but mostly Handbrake using the version with the H.264 baseline support. I usually specify 512kbps for the video and 128kbps for the audio. 2-pass.

edit: for clarification - all my vids are H.264.

[markdaunt]

All mine are mp4 with aac audio iSquint high setting

[devman]

All mine are mp4 with aac audio iSquint high setting

I don't have isquint. Anyway, you say that QT Pro and iTunes converted files work (both of which are H.264). You also say that vids from ITMS work (these are also H.264).

So the longer vids that fail on your iPod are all mp4 created by iSquint.

Seems like there's a few thing you could try (if you're so inclined) to narrow this down.

[markdaunt]

Sorry, not all created by iSquint other prog's as well and all worked before 1.1 update

[markdaunt]

What I was trying to say is that you may have the problem on your iPod and not know about it seeing as your not playing mp4 files.

[Finesse02]

I just ran the update and now to complete the update process I have to plug my iPod into a wall outlet and I don't have the charger. Now I have to go buy one or I can't use my iPod anymore?!:mad: :confused:



i had the same problem..but i just left it plugged in with my USB to my computer (about a half hour) and eventually it just started to charge again and it recognized my iPod and the wall charger sign went away.

[Bern]

Just ran the update through my 30GB iPod 5G and all is well. One thing that is noticeably different is there's no stutter as I switch between menus and screens, smooth transitions is the way now.

[devman]

What I was trying to say is that you may have the problem on your iPod and not know about it seeing as your not playing mp4 files.

Ha! Funny how this has suddenly become my problem...

[markdaunt]

Didn't say it way your problem, just said you may have the problem on your iPod but not know about it, as you don't play the type of files that cause the problem.

[lwmcanada]

I'm havin problems with my video as well, as already mentioned. I've got the 60GB 5G and it plays 30 seconds, then pauses, then resumes with no sound.:mad:

[JangoFett124]

Same problem with freezing here.

[jono_3]

anybody find a working solution to the 4g plug in the charger problem?

[irish24]

I have a brand new nano...how long does this update take?

[GregA]

I have a brand new nano...how long does this update take?In Windows, after you've downloaded the updater you have to install it and restart your machine. Then run the updater - which takes a couple of minutes to do its thing. About 1 minute for the final firmware update, and you're done. For a slowish machine it may take 10-15 minutes. I don't think a Mac needs a restart, so much quicker.

[steve_hill4]

In Windows, after you've downloaded the updater you have to install it and restart your machine. Then run the updater - which takes a couple of minutes to do its thing. About 1 minute for the final firmware update, and you're done. For a slowish machine it may take 10-15 minutes. I don't think a Mac needs a restart, so much quicker.
You shouldn't need to restart a Windows machine either, it's just there almost as a precautionary measure which is sometimes actually needed, (doublespeak I hear you say). In my experience, installing takes a minute at most, running updater takes less than a minute. Never run it on anything with a processor that is that slow though, so I'm not the best person to judge performance of this thing.

[delicategenius]

Did this update kill anyone elses iPod.

I ran the update and my 3G 30GB iPod never came back to life properly. I now locks up on the Apple logo as soon as I switch it on.

Does anyone have the same issue or advice on how to fix it? I've done a reset [Menu]+[Play] but it doesn't help at all. I've also drained the battery for 2 days, and still nothing :(

BTW, I wrote about it here too. (http://delicategeniusblog.com/?p=143)

Thanks, . . . Michael

[Sharewaredemon]

Did this update kill anyone elses iPod.

I ran the update and my 3G 30GB iPod never came back to life properly. I now locks up on the Apple logo as soon as I switch it on.

Does anyone have the same issue or advice on how to fix it? I've done a reset [Menu]+[Play] but it doesn't help at all. I've also drained the battery for 2 days, and still nothing :(

BTW, I wrote about it here too. (http://delicategeniusblog.com/?p=143)

Thanks, . . . Michael

The reset combination is Menu and Select I believe, or Select and Play.

You could try restoring your iPod from the cd that came with it.

[barneygumble]

The reset combination is Menu and Select I believe, or Select and Play.

You could try restoring your iPod from the cd that came with it.

Doesn't work i had the same problem as ^^ now i have to get a new ipod, and when i say it's dead it really is disk utility doesnt see it at all:( . Never mind my 1Gb nano is on the way

[Strungdog]

Get this, my girlfriend and I both bought 5g video ipods that are just over a month old. I recently did the update on mine and it's fine.

Did it on hers and it froze on the apple start up screen, I left it for about 45 minutes and then did a reset. Now it won't switch on at all. Nice.

So now I have a nice shiny £280 paperweight. Add to this after I did the latest software update on my 3 month old powerbook my dvd drive packed up I'm not a happy chicken.

Ok, they're all under warranty, but I don't want a refurbished ipod and being without my powerbook and net/email access at home is going to make life very difficult for me.

Having switched from a PC only a few months ago, now microsoft don't seem as bad as they used to.

Thanks a bunch Apple, Why did I switch from a PC again ?

[len71]

This new software updater is a serial killer! I have an iBook G4 and let it update my 5G 30 GB iPod (it asked, so I clicked 'update'). The result was a white screen and audible beeping noises on the iPod every time I tried to reset. The local Apple Service Provider replaced it after one week of servicing when they too realised that doing a hard reset multiple times was not going to do the trick.

Anyhow, I assumed that it must have been some inexplicable circumstance that produced the fault and I let my iBook update the replacement iPod, to this time have the poor thing make a short beep, show the apple logo in shadow and now not show anything on screen at all.

So, if your 5G 30 GB iPod is under warranty and you want it replaced because you scratched the screen, try updating it a few times. :)

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
That whole Menu --> Backlight Toggle On / Off removal is very frustrating to me. Outside of that, things have gone smoothly. I've had two white iPod 5G 60GBs and both seem just fine, outside of that stupid 'feature'. My first iPod had a spot to the top right of the clickwheel that had the backlight showing through the casing. Something obviously didn't line up / seal properly. It wasn't too bad until you tried to watch a movie [ darker colors ] at night, it stuck out like a sore thumb. If you wish for the Menu button to toggle the backlight again, please...

Apple - iPod - Feedback (http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html)

NOTE: Please be kind / professional but firm with your feedback. We want Apple to listen to us remember. Being an a*****e is not going to do that.

I've never heard of the wall charger 'thing' before. I've been through four iPods (15GB 3G, 20GB 4G, 4GB 2G mini, 60GB 5G) now and haven't seen that one yet.

[mikebat]

This Knowledge Base article suggests adding the Backlight item to the main menu which isn't that useful :)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303123

[ethernet76]

i tried old updates..
i cant even mount an ipod to use an old updater... it wont let me do anything until i plug it into a wall charger

a trip down to the apple store means crossing the border and driving 3 hours down to seattle

the registered retailers in vancouver are less than helpful in my experience

It's probably too late, but there is something called the iPod shuffle power pack.

It's around 30 dollars, includes an AC adapter and car charger, and is available at places like target and wal-mart.

Even though the name says shuffle it works for all iPods. You just need to supply your own usb to dock cable.

[ethernet76]

Hi
That whole Menu --> Backlight Toggle On / Off removal is very frustrating to me. Outside of that, things have gone smoothly. I've had two white iPod 5G 60GBs and both seem just fine, outside of that stupid 'feature'. My first iPod had a spot to the top right of the clickwheel that had the backlight showing through the casing. Something obviously didn't line up / seal properly. It wasn't too bad until you tried to watch a movie [ darker colors ] at night, it stuck out like a sore thumb. If you wish for the Menu button to toggle the backlight again, please...

Apple - iPod - Feedback (http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html)

NOTE: Please be kind / professional but firm with your feedback. We want Apple to listen to us remember. Being an a*****e is not going to do that.

I've never heard of the wall charger 'thing' before. I've been through four iPods (15GB 3G, 20GB 4G, 4GB 2G mini, 60GB 5G) now and haven't seen that one yet.

I've seen it on the 4G, 3G, and 1/2G.

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
This Knowledge Base article suggests adding the Backlight item to the main menu which isn't that useful :)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303123
That solution isn't going to do it for me. I simply installed the 10-12-2005 iPod Updater from the CD included with my 'Pod and used that to restore it. Worked just fine and I still have my backlight toggle. :) I'm keeping the 01-10-2006 iPod Updater though. I just hope they make an iPod video / nano 1.2 update. This is one of the very few times I've been reluctant to update.

I've seen it on the 4G, 3G, and 1/2G.
Maybe I've just been lucky??? Though, that wouldn't seem possible with my experiences. :D :(

[drlunanerd]

I can't believe this is still not fixed. Why haven't Apple pulled this update? Beggars belief.

Like an idiot I naively thought they would have pulled their fingers out by now; perhaps the problems were related to iTunes and Quicktime and had been fixed in the latest releases; perhaps a silent fix to the updater etc.

Updated my 60GB iPod to 1.1 with a fresh download of the updater and lo! Skipping audio tracks and scratchy distortion - on newly downloaded tracks from the iTMS as well. I've not even tried any video.

Having to downgrade and upload over 50 gigs of music again. Thanks Steve, no really, it's my pleasure.