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Gjwilly

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Original poster
May 1, 2011
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I'm going to replace the SSD in an Air and I want to be able to sell the old SSD without my data, naturally.

Am I right in thinking that I just boot off of a Mavericks USB -- format the installed SSD using Disk Utility -- power down -- swap the SSD -- and then boot from the Mavericks USB again and install onto the new SSD?
I don't care at all about backing up or transferring anything.
 

dmccloud

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Sep 7, 2009
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Anchorage, AK
I'm going to replace the SSD in an Air and I want to be able to sell the old SSD without my data, naturally.

Am I right in thinking that I just boot off of a Mavericks USB -- format the installed SSD using Disk Utility -- power down -- swap the SSD -- and then boot from the Mavericks USB again and install onto the new SSD?
I don't care at all about backing up or transferring anything.

I've seen a USB dongle that just connects directly to the SATA ports of an internal HDD/SSD at Best buy for under $40. You could just pick that up and plug any drive with the standard SATA connections into it.
 

laurihoefs

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Mar 1, 2013
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I'm going to replace the SSD in an Air and I want to be able to sell the old SSD without my data, naturally.

Am I right in thinking that I just boot off of a Mavericks USB -- format the installed SSD using Disk Utility -- power down -- swap the SSD -- and then boot from the Mavericks USB again and install onto the new SSD?
I don't care at all about backing up or transferring anything.

Yes, that's all you need to do, if you don't want to transfer anything.

Disk Utility can not securely erase SSDs, so it is possible to recover data from the drive, even if the partitions are formatted or removed. If you don't mind that, then just using Disk Utility is fine.

If you wan't to securely erase the disk, you'll need to use PartedMagic or a similar tool, which can be booted from a CD or a USB drive. Disk Utility does not support ATA Secure Erase instruction, which is the only way to erase an SSD completely without causing excessive wear.
 

Fishrrman

macrumors Penryn
Feb 20, 2009
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Doesn't the MBAir use a specialized "mini-SSD" with its own proprietary-type connector?

If you put a completely-un-initialized SSD in there, without even a recovery partition on it, how will you boot? I could be wrong, but I don't think you can even get to a "net boot" with the internal drive in that condition.

I looked over on ebay for possible solutions:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/macbook-air-ssd-enclosure

Shown are some adapters and enclosures that might be of use to you.

Actually, it might be best to get one of these gadgets FIRST, and "prep and test" the new SSD BEFORE you do the drive swap.

Could save you A LOT of trouble.
 

Hellhammer

Moderator emeritus
Dec 10, 2008
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Finland
Disk Utility does not support ATA Secure Erase instruction, which is the only way to erase an SSD completely without causing excessive wear.

I wouldn't consider a single-pass erase to be "excessive wear". It'll write zeros to all the user-accessible LBAs once, which pretty much destroys the chance of data being recoverable. I would say it's a much better option than spending money on an adapter just to be able to issue the ATA secure erase command.
 

chrfr

macrumors G5
Jul 11, 2009
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If you put a completely-un-initialized SSD in there, without even a recovery partition on it, how will you boot? I could be wrong, but I don't think you can even get to a "net boot" with the internal drive in that condition.

Airs and other recent Macs have internet recovery which doesn't depend on a disk having a partition at all and don't require having an OS installer on USB.
You can erase a disk or format and put an OS on a brand new disk perfectly well using the internet recovery boot. Using a local USB OS installer will be quite a bit faster, though.
Anything newer than the computers in this document will include internet recovery, except for the Mac Pro, which never got internet recovery capability until the current 2013 model was released.
 

laurihoefs

macrumors 6502a
Mar 1, 2013
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I wouldn't consider a single-pass erase to be "excessive wear". It'll write zeros to all the user-accessible LBAs once, which pretty much destroys the chance of data being recoverable. I would say it's a much better option than spending money on an adapter just to be able to issue the ATA secure erase command.

I don't think spending money on an adapter would be reasonable either, which is why I suggested using a bootable USB drive or CD.

I was under the impression, that the secure erase options in Disk Utility are disabled, if the target drive is an SSD. If they are in fact not disabled, then using Disk Utility is of course the easiest option, and I apologise for any misinformation.
 

Gochugogi

macrumors regular
Oct 27, 2013
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Sandwich Isles
You can buy an inexpensive USB enclosure for less than a jackson and use it to format and test your old and new drives. I think paid $10 for one on Amazon and used it to clone my drive before dong the SSD transplant. The old HD now lives in the enclosure. Other options--bare drive adapters--are more expensive.
 

FreakinEurekan

macrumors 603
Sep 8, 2011
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Doesn't the MBAir use a specialized "mini-SSD" with its own proprietary-type connector?

Depends on which Air, but probably yes. Only the very early 2008/2009 Airs used a "normal" 2.5" SATA drive. The 2010-2012 use a SATA "Blade" storage, and the 2013-2014 use PCIe. There are some aftermarket SATA Blade upgrades; i have not seen any aftermarket PCIe options though.
 
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