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Jan 20, 2006, 10:51 AM
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zapp
Jan 20, 2006, 11:05 AM
Intel should have never tried to sell to Apple. They should have known that if they partnered up they would have production problems, now all intel needs to do is is bump there specs by .16 GHz every six months and it will be like we never switched chip providers for the third time

uicandrew
Jan 20, 2006, 11:22 AM
Intel should have never tried to sell to Apple. They should have known that if they partnered up they would have production problems, now all intel needs to do is is bump there specs by .16 GHz every six months and it will be like we never switched chip providers for the third time

still, Intel has delivered the equivalent of a G5 notebook, something that was never possible with te old chips.

Also, if intel has a chronic problem, then why are there not shortages of pcs, especially since they make roughly 40% of the cpus inside pcs.

look at what intel has done with chips for laptops

late 2003 - codename "Banias" Pentium M - 1st generation with 1mb L2 cache and 400mh fsb
2004 - codename "Dothan" Pentium M - 2nd generation with 2mb L2 cache and 400mhz fsb (90nm technique)
2005 - codename "Sonoma" Pentium M - 3rd generation with 2mb L2 cache and 533mhz fsb (65 nm technique)
2006 - codename "Yonah" Core Duo

<apologies to zapp, i'm horrible at reading sarcasm>

jimN
Jan 20, 2006, 11:36 AM
2005 - codename "Sonoma" Pentium M - 3rd generation with 2mb L2 cache and 533mhz fsb (45 nm technique)

Pretty certain you mean 65nm, while intel want to go smaller they're not there yet.

zapp
Jan 20, 2006, 11:57 AM
do you actually believe in what you are saying? Intel has delivered the equivalent of a G5 notebook, something that was never possible with te old chips.

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I was being funny !!!!

simie
Jan 20, 2006, 12:00 PM
If you read the extract its talking about the shortage of chipsets not the actual microprocessors. They had a stockpile of processors that they could not use.

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Bryant blamed the miss on an ongoing shortage of chipsets -- the chips that sit between a computer's main microprocessor, its memory, and other parts of the computer -- coupled with weakness in PC sales, particularly in the Americas. The chipset-supply issue, which Intel first described in its midquarter update in December, reportedly has led to lost microprocessor business among some PC makers.

"MISMANAGEMENT OF FORECASTS." Intel Chief Executive Paul Otellini had hoped to fill the gap with third-party chipsets from vendors like ATI (ATYT), Via Technologies, and SIS. But when those chipsets didn't materialize, PC makers were left holding the bag -- with an expensive stockpile of PC microprocessor chips they couldn't use.

iMeowbot
Jan 20, 2006, 12:05 PM
There was a capacity shortfall at intel, for their older processes (CPUs are on newer lines) They shuffled around their product mix so that they concentrated on making higher-end chipsets to go with them, and referring system makers to third party chipset suppliers for the lower end stuff. This was all pretty much straightened out weeks ago, though word is that they will be running very near capacity to keep up with demand.

DMann
Jan 20, 2006, 12:23 PM
There was a capacity shortfall at intel, for their older processes (CPUs are on newer lines) They shuffled around their product mix so that they concentrated on making higher-end chipsets to go with them, and referring system makers to third party chipset suppliers for the lower end stuff. This was all pretty much straightened out weeks ago, though word is that they will be running very near capacity to keep up with demand.

Intel is a highly capable multi-tasking chip fabricator. Of the three:
Motorola (Freescale), IBM, and Intel, Intel is the least likely to delay
and/or lag in production for high-end and prosumer chip demands.
If there are any snags along the way, they are likely to be short lived
by comparison.

pinto32
Jan 20, 2006, 12:50 PM
I think I remember reading several months back that Intel announced a shift in some of thier fabs away from low-margain chipsets (for low-end PCs) to produced more processors. This is all thier own doing...they decided to attempt to take over the chipset market over the past several years, and then wonder why the remaining competiters don't step in to save thier ass for a couple of months, just to be pushed out again. Good riddence.